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Wood farm wagon axles that fit under chuck wagons, sheep wagons, and box wagons are fundamentally the same as steel axles, though constructed completely differently. This goes through the comparisons and differences of the wood wagon axle. Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles involved understanding a variety of applications of the trade.
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@johnberryhill8106 2 года назад

Dave you have the mind of an Expert wood Craftsman!....I need a seeing eye dog just to follow along !........I have been watching you for a few years now and I NEVER tire of you working. Thank You for your show!........ Howdy from Branson Missouri !

@Durfield 2 года назад

This guy is a national treasure. There was a time when men went to work every day and did things like this for a living. Whether building wagons or boats or whatever they were real craftsmen. I tip my hat to their memory and to people like Dave today.

@maknifeandrods7701 2 года назад

Amen

@none5355melvinMadigan 2 года назад

Happy thanksgiving to you and your family

@glencrandall7051 2 года назад

I just brought this video up and bam it's over. The speed of time doubles when watching Engels Coach Shop. Those axels are massive. But the old ones still look pretty good. The new ones will be magnificent. Dave thanks for another great afternoon. Have a great day and stay safe.

@richardsurber8226 2 года назад

It is truly a comedy, in my mind. when it looks like you tail your own rip sawing actions. When you did that two seat buggy is when I noticed it as real comedy. Maybe it's just me. I tailed a rip saw in a mill for building windows as one of my first jobs. Thanks for that too Dave! Richard Surber in Citrus Heights, CA

@daniellarrivee6510 2 года назад

Thanks to you Mr. Engel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@samsiryani9023 2 года назад

When we talk about future generations, the knowledge and hand skills this man or I’d rather say this national treasure should be well documented and hopefully knowledge can be passed down to this hopeless generation with them working by hand and not mobile phone or laptop.

@2_dog_Restoration 2 года назад

Dave you may call it a Faye & Egan table saw. But to us it looks like your primary work bench, that happens to have a couple of saw blades under it! ! THANKS for taking the time to share your daily life with us. Dan H

@tomtruesdale6901 2 года назад

The more I watch your videos the more I can see that I know nothing about wagons and buggies BUT I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, skills and abilities with us

@ralphcline6930 2 года назад

I know that pi are square , and cornbread are round , but , this is amazing craftsmanship. Thank you.

@mayforddavis9291 2 года назад

Always delighted when a new video comes out. My Dad and brothers were carpenters for over 30 years; never saw them turn the tape upside down to draw a straight line. Marvelous! Always excited to see God's gifted artisan at work; truly mesmerizing. Thank YOU and the Misses for letting us watch over your shoulder.

@jamesgriffin958 2 года назад

I’ve worn a tape on my belt or carried one in my bags for over forty years; I’ve never seen that either. Old dog can learn new tricks.

@andrewclarkehomeimprovement 2 года назад

That's a new one on me. Monday morning guess what, be trying that.

@user990077 2 года назад

I like the trick of laying the tape upside down to mark a line. Gonna have to remember that.

@rockymec6794 2 года назад

thanks Dave for all the videos, I have been watching close to a year now and your work is unmatchable. I learned a lot along the way and you inspired me to try this myself so far i rebuilt an old buck board wagon my dad had for decoration and I'm now working on a bob sled kinda from scratch. the alinement videos are very helpful thank you. I want to start on sheep wagon running gear i have a lot of parts for. just to let you know i will use all of my wagons with my horses. thanks again for your help

@jdcamc 2 года назад

Another perfect way to spend a Friday afternoon!! Thanks for sharing, Dave!!

@williamjacobs236 2 года назад

Another great video Dave .

@davidbrenneman9447 2 года назад

Thanks for this video. Also enjoyed the background music.

@dawnjohnson7688 2 года назад

Thanks Diane for answering our many questions. Glad I got to meet you in July!

@dianeengel4155 2 года назад

You're welcome!

@tr1sh2tom 2 года назад

Wow. That saw is a monster!

@DrewToner 2 года назад

wouldn't be surprised if the blade's are hundred years old too!

@RobbieSongwriter 2 года назад

My fellow fans comments heartily seconded. Thank you again for sharing your extraordinary skills and craftsmanship. Bravo!

@petermartinez5573 2 года назад

Always learning more about the old ways. Another interesting and educational video thank you for sharing.

@duanelundgren7985 2 года назад

Thanks, Mr. Dave! The trouble with a bit of education is that it quickly shows how little we knew to start with... But I'm still enjoying the trade... as a spectator!! Press On!! :-) :-)

@BobBlarneystone 2 года назад

I'm always impressed by the degree of precision that is accomplished by the layout with just a tape measure and a pencil. The parts always seem to come out dead on.

@MrWoodworkr 2 года назад

That’s called experience and there’s only one way to get it!!

@fengelman 2 года назад

Pencil? Half the time it’s a chalk !

@mahlonharders1789 2 года назад

Of all the videos I watch on youtube , Yours is my favorite . I really admire your talent.

@CraigLYoung 2 года назад

As always, thanks for sharing 👍

@rogerhodges7656 2 года назад

Thank you so much for your content!

@dorightal4965 2 года назад

My Friday is complete! Thanks, Dave.

@andrewmantle7627 2 года назад

Always glad to see a video show up Dave.

@Tomhohenadel 2 года назад

Amazing Dave, your workmanship continues to amaze. Great video, bless you brother.

@danaowen9014 2 года назад

I love to watch you measure and mark your lines, very precise.

@MikeAG333 2 года назад

Seriously, they're not. This is pretty rough carpentry, and nothing like as precise as cabinetmaking or pattern-making. Dave is as accurate as he needs to be, but for precision, dividers, gauges, and particularly marking knives, are used.

@kirkpowell6161 2 года назад

Another greatr video Mr Dave!

@raymondhorvatin1050 2 года назад

I always enjoy the process not many use hand tools any more or even carry on the blacksmith trade thanks for sharing

@TheDaf95xf 2 года назад

Just come across this. Absolutely fantastic 🤩🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

@fordfan3179 2 года назад

It's amazing that wagon and buggy makers had a grasp of things like toe in or gather. I wonder how old that technology is.

@miles11we 2 года назад

Probably about a couple hours younger than multi wheeled things

@horacerumpole6912 2 года назад

The Caesars knew of this-

@olddawgdreaming5715 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing with us Dave. Enjoying this project build a lot. Thanks for sharing with us, keep safe around there and Happy Thanksgiving to you and your families. Fred. 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻✋🏻✋🏻

@12345....... 2 года назад

Happy Friday Diane and Dave

@alcox1386 2 года назад

My Grand dad was a black smith all his life. He started toward end of the horse drawn wagon era and slowly moved into a more modern era of working on farm equipment. He must have done a lot of wagon repair work judging by the amount of old wagons and wagon parts in his scrap pile. I still remember as a young boy the sound of that huge trip hammer he had as he shaped iron. That thing would make the ground shake for 30 feet in all directions.

@Disinterested1 2 года назад

if Bob ross had a Cowboy Coachmaker brother ijs thank you for sharing your art best wishes to all :)

@markgoddard2560 2 года назад

Master of the craft.

@floydpeters9494 2 года назад

Well… you have taught me something in how to use a “push pull” steel tape to lay out straight lines, just turn it over, been teaching wood working in Ag mechanics for 38 years and have never seen nor thought of doing that. Such a simple and straightforward trick. I will teach it to my 8 grade Ag Mechanics students next week.

@maryleescott9028 2 года назад

That was an amazing little nugget out of that video...yet so simple.

@floydpeters9494 2 года назад

@@TugIronChief I teach proper layout, but in agricultural construction where you do not have all of the “proper”tools available and need a straight edge that is a handy tip. Thanks for your advice.

@robt2151 2 года назад

You have the skill and experience to cut the axle blank to length before shaping the ends. I suspect that many of us would leave the blank over-length in case it was necessary to cut off the sub-optimal outcome of our first attempts to shape the axle end.

@TomLeg 2 года назад

Yeah, Dave ... another excellent class session

@suzisaintjames 2 года назад

It amazes me how much you know! Sending lots of love 💖 from sunny 🌞 Arizona 🌵😷

@randallparker8477 2 года назад

Old sailing ship millwrights could carve you a "peg leg" if you were in the market. Those old axle ends made me think of that "superfluous tidbit". Waiting for the next one.

@pambrewer9082 2 года назад

You use that tape measure like an extension of your hand

@phillipsmith7081 2 года назад

Thanks Dave. Always curious of this info for wood axils. Great informative video. Good luck and God bless!!!

@WayneCook306 2 года назад

Thank you Dave another great video and another part of your skills.

@deezynar 2 года назад

Steel was quite expensive at the beginning of the 1800's because they had not yet invented methods to make it cheaply. As steel got cheaper, more of it was used. Wagons are an example of that. At the beginning of the 1800's they used steel very sparingly, putting it only in places that its strength, wear resistance, and better weathering properties, made it economically worthwhile. By the end of the 1800's, they used it far more because the price had really come down. Steel had gotten so cheap that it's strength and ability to be shaped quickly by casting, and drop forging machines, made it preferred over wood in many more places on the wagon. Axle evolution is an example of the increased use of steel, and decreased use of wood. Starting with bare wood on wood hubs and axles, then adding sleeves to the wood hubs and axles for wear rear resistance. When steel got cheap enough, it was a waste of labor to shape wood to the special forms needed to fit inside steel sleeves. By the early 1900's they realized that it cost less, and made a better product to use less wood and go with more steel. Many of the last wagons were made with solid steel axles that were forged and turned in a factory like car axles.

@ryderphillips4464 2 года назад

I've never seen an upside down tape measure used as a straight edge but I'm OK with it.!!!

@oc2phish07 2 года назад

Definitely one of your most interesting and compelling videos, Dave. Can't wait for the next step.

@tamianderson539 2 года назад

362 likes and 0 dislikes. You must know something!!! Always look forward to Friday’s! Keep em coming! Would like to drop in and see “Santa’s Workshop” in person someday! God bless.

@bruceanderson9461 2 года назад

RU-vid dropped recording dislikes because the Democrats were getting bigly outnumbered in the dislike numbers on all their posts. How do you fix this-change policies-no-get rid of dislikes. However, who could dislike englescoachshop anyway.

@flywayhome8903 2 года назад

Once again thanks for the video, I like the trick where you turn the tap upside down to use as a straight edge, I 'am 72 and learned something new today, never to old!

@frankgaletzka8477 2 года назад

Hello Dave As i told before my grandfather and my father do the same work as you do In German it is called Stellmacher or Wagner two different names of the same Work . That this work Was very difficult and not so easy to learn is clear for me but now i realize that it is absolut difficult and it is a bit of Art to Do the work . Thank you for the Look behind the curtain and for your effords to save this Artwork for the next Generations Take care GOD bless you Yours Frank Galetzka

@gordbaker896 2 года назад

I am, always amazed at your Knowledge and Expertise. Excellent photography, sub titles and audio. Is 'swing' equivalent to Camber?

@oneshotme 2 года назад

Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

@robertboreman7672 2 года назад

Your knowledge is amazing. A true craftsman from the old school - not the hurry up and get it done generation.

@garthbutton699 2 года назад

What really bothers me is that their is no apprentice working along side of you, not that you are doing any thing wrong to attract them just that it is so hard to find and attract young people to that trade.By the looks of your work load you don't have a problem finding work,seems as if it finds you and all your work is by word of mouth and your reputation for quality. Thank you Dave for allowing us to look over your shoulder.

@tullyal 2 года назад

Always come away learning something! Thank you.

@maryleescott9028 2 года назад

I always see a little something I can use or a trick to add to my "toolkit" to make my lite efforts of woodworking easier. Thank you!

@mikepetersen2927 2 года назад

Thanks for the video, Dave! It makes me wonder just how far back in history the concern for these alignment angles goes. At what point did wagonwrights start worrying about them & building them into their vehicles?

@rossbuchanan7632 2 года назад

@@TugIronChief Toe in is a static setting when your axle is not under load. When your vehicle is in motion, under a dynamic load, then things become parallel

@victorkoci9171 2 года назад

I have been waiting to see how you make wood axles that was awesome i will be glad to see the ending great job Dave thank you very much

@thebabylon2933 2 года назад

شكرا على هذا العمل الرائع

@oldSawyer 2 года назад

I'm Glad I Found THIS Video BEFORE Making New Axles for Grandpa's Old 1880s SANDWICH HAY PRESS, as I would have probably made them Straight, like I'm guessing Grandpa Did 53 Years Ago when He Made the ones that are on it now and partially rotted away again. Now I Know to Carve In the Camber & Toe-in which I Highly Doubt Grandpa did back in 1968/69 While I'm waiting for the 3rd video (to be uploaded Next Week) showing them being done on a "Duplicating Machine" or "Tracer-Lathe" of sorts, I'm guessing it is similar to what I always figured on doing, Jury-Rigging one of them to carve out the tapers with a Router as they spin between centers. With what I Know NOW, even without seeing the third video yet, is that I will need to make Double Centers in each end of the axles so I can off-set the opposite end from the one I'm cutting to get the proper angles. GOOD TO KNOW Ahead of Time. Giving it a little more thought, I can probably Skip the "Camber" as it has Steel Wheels that should run "Plumb" as a whole rather than by the 'bottom' spokes of a wooden wheel as the spokes are angled in bother directions from the hub to the rim. I will still need the 1/8th in "Toe-In" on both axles though to keep the wheels against the flange and away from the nut.

@dianeengel4155 2 года назад

Dave says even modern cars need camber.

@bladewiper 2 года назад

Thanks for posting.

@rtkville 2 года назад

Thanks again Dave for a great video You are the man!

@aleferniuk1752 2 года назад

Extraordinary craftmanship. I've enjoyed every minute of today's delivery. I also tip my hand to you, man.

@MikeWilliams-yp9kl 2 года назад

Thanks Dave , I'm eagerly awaiting the next instalments, how are you going to carve that axle? This will be amazing to see you in action 😎 ♥️love from the UK

@blackbuttecruizr 2 года назад

Awesome!

@oldshep2695 2 года назад

Thank you.

@amateurshooter6054 2 года назад

Thanks Dave 73 AB7RR Bob God Bless America

@travisthefixer3788 2 года назад

Amazing how they came up with that in the first place could you imagine if we had to depend on this generation coming 🤔 anyhow .Thank you for taking the time and going through the steps also the table saw I couldn't believe you did that cut in one pass👍👍

@hefy2jefy 2 года назад

I need one of those pencils, amazing accuracy!

@errolpoxleitner9586 2 года назад

Very good

@catfishgray3696 2 года назад

I'AM READY, LET GO TO WORK, GREAT VIDEO, TELL EVERYBODY HELLO, SEE YOU NEXT WEEK...

@harrymason1053 10 месяцев назад

Nice!

@d.o.m.494 2 года назад

That's a lot of pieces!

@steveshoemaker6347 2 года назад

l see l am a day late again.....But thanks ever so much young man....!

@Adrian-Pryke 2 года назад

It shows how accurate your work is when you scribed the 2 circles on the ends of the wood and they both hit the horizontal lines perfectly I know if I tried that, if I was lucky I might hit one of the lines, no chance of hitting all 4… 🤪

@harveypost7799 2 года назад

Good Thanksgiving morrow to ur wife,urself,relatives and Joliet,Montana. HJ POST 🤠🦃🥁

@shopshop144 2 года назад

With an axle that's wood, and it the enviroment that farm wagons worked in, I'm surprised you can be confident about that 1/8" measurement. But I guess, that and your experience is all you had to go on. Seeing the next steps will be interesting.

@gramursowanfaborden5820 2 года назад

if it fit when it came off it'll fit when it goes back on.

@bradbeasley7669 2 года назад

cliff hanger grrrrrrr

@10lauset 2 года назад

...Cheers...

@noelhall945 5 месяцев назад

Always taught to push NOT pull work on a table/band saw/router table What is your view? Love your videos, where we all feel like we are participating.

@tinachambers4887 2 года назад

Hi Dave an Diane got any of the white stuff yet enjoyed the show have a great day love from TEXAS

@dianeengel4155 2 года назад

We had a nice wet snow in early Oct but nothing since. We sure could use some.

@tinachambers4887 2 года назад

@@dianeengel4155 I'll let yall have it It snowed 2 times last winter, an l thought The second coming was upon us LOL

@dianeengel4155 2 года назад

Lol

@WilliamTMusil 2 года назад

Hiya Dave

@warrenholmar1129 2 года назад

Faye&Egan isn't that the brand of bandsaw Keith Rucker is fixing up For Jimmy D? Oh and fantastic video! Like everyone else I love the whole tape turning thing, very clever! Can't wait for the carving video next week!

@gforcekaras 2 года назад

That table saw cover definitely needs an upgrade.

@captainhgreen 2 года назад

How many years did it take, way back when to get all of the details worked out for a wagon? Amazing.

@kurtholzer9619 2 года назад

Although this video isnt about the steam bending, when you stack them 3 high and bend them at the same time the inner and outer are going to be slightly different Radious. How does that factor in??

@eddief3326 2 года назад

MINI 30 bu. hand made , all hardware cane be seen on Logger Wade RU-vid ch. trip to Phoenix Mat. 3 or 4 in tall horses and all tack.

@toolscarriagesmodellbauand7246 2 года назад

That was a very interessting video about measuring wooden axles. Great skills. I'm lookin forward to your next video. But, by the way, when did the wheelwirght turn over to use iron-axles? Is there a special reason for to be seen?

@MARKLOCKWOOD2012 2 года назад

Probably warped due to being slap worn out. Hot/cold cycles expanding retracting. Weight of the buggy couldn’t support rider anymore so the axles kept the memory. But today you can add water proofing like Thompson’s clear or stained to protect the wood 🪵 if one didn’t want to paint the body. ??

@rolliekelly6783 2 года назад

If that White Ash came from IN., I would venture a guess that yard supplies stock for Louisville Slugger.

@Pushyhog 2 года назад

#1000 + here.

@nedflora1154 2 года назад

👍🏼

@philmenzies2477 2 года назад

Lovely video Dave. 2 questions, Im interested to know, the original axles look reusable to my untrained eye. Was it the customer's request for new wood axles or something I'm not seeing? Also, When they start using skeins? Were different timbers used when axles were just solid wood running in wood bearings?