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We're building a 38" chuck wagon box and showing spacings and measurements of where the framing goes. This as an all new box fitted with old original box irons that will go on the restored undercarriage we juste finished. Thanks for following along.
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@kimsutton2268 2 года назад

It's good to see old metal being reused rather than becoming scrap metal thanks for sharing

@cyrilhudak4568 2 года назад

Not to mention fabrication time saved.

@markneedham8726 2 года назад

Price of bloody steel. ...and it's going up again in July, 10%. Australia.

@billmillsaps4431 2 года назад

Watching your videos never gets old I’m a big fan keep it up from north Idaho

@kennethjackson7574 2 года назад

When one of my ancestor’s family arrived in Oklahoma they started making a sod house. A surviving letter says the bottom of the wagon was eleven feet long, which is how they came to have a front door six feet tall and a back door five feet tall!

@RH-xr8ms 2 года назад

Real nice work there Dave !!!! I enjoy all your videos. Looks like quite a zinger on the left thumbnail. Ouch,,, I've had a few of them in 81 years !! Salutations from Texas !!

@natangell8470 2 года назад

I have been watching you for years, I live in NC but have travelled extensively in the west but have spent little time in Montana, just never worked out with when we were traveling. Fires, late snows, or just ran out of time. I told my wife that if we get the chance to go back , then we are going to Montana and I wanted to meet a true craftsman

@rickyabrahams7100 2 года назад

Those men that originally made those irons, must be smiling down on you right now. Seeing their hard work still in use today😊😊

@tomoakhill8825 2 года назад

In places which get annual snow, salt is applied to the roads. South Main Auto in Avoca NY is a wonderful RU-vid channel. He heats rust-frozen nuts with a torch to "break them loose." He does not reach the high temperature Dave does in his forge. Iron ore _is_ rust. Both are iron oxide. High heat will convert the oxide to the metal if there is a reducing agent in the forge. It is clear that Dave's forge has reduced all of the rust to iron. We can see the absence of rust when Dave removes the nuts, 3:00.

@matthewb8229 2 года назад

And just like that, 17 minutes is gone. It's like being a kid, falling asleep in the car, and all of sudden, you're where you were going with your folks.

@ellisc.foleyjr9778 2 года назад

One of the things I like about watching your videos over the years (besides all the good stuff I've learned!) is to see you doing a lot of things per wood working and some metal works that are the same methods I came up with for my own projects. kinda adds validity to my logic. that someone else came to the same conclusion and decision to do it that way for good structural or mechanical life. thanks for sharing. ECF

@DavidSmith-zr3nd 2 года назад

I like seeing the floor boards and old irons being reused. Adds character.

@RobertFay 2 года назад

*- Seeing experience making the drill to line up **9:00** side to side is SO MUCH FUN To Watch, Dave.*

@bertrandpotvin 2 года назад

Re-use of those irons sure made for a lot of refurbishing, I bet. But a lot less work than smithing all those pieces new. And it makes sense if you had them in the shop. Thank you for all the great videos, and the knowledge you are cataloging. I watch all of your videos.

@michaelkelly8955 2 года назад

It’s a beautiful winters morning here, way, way down the bottom of Australia. There is nothing better than lying in bed with a coffee and watching Dave artisan up a wagon box.

@annepayton6461 2 года назад

So impressed with the wide range of your skills, the depth of your knowledge and your true craftsmanship, not only in your shop work, but also in your editing skills. Thank you for sharing your skills, knowledge and dedication to excellence with the world. I am surprised by how much I have learned watching your channel. You are not just a master wheelwright, you are also a master teacher!

@gerardfenn3988 6 месяцев назад

Hey Dave, I still need to watch further episodes of this box build to see where those underbed supports will line up. There must be a reason you spaced them as you did. For just a removable wagon box, as I tend to be somewhat OCD,, without knowing why I would have "Evenly Spaced" those supports for the bed. Time for the next episode to learn why the past wagon builders were less prone to be OCD. Great Video, Thanks.

@ShouldersMoondog549 2 года назад

Fascinating! Really like watching this Chuckwagon come together!! Using the forge to get those old nuts off the irons was something to see! Thanks Dave for your video's!!

@AdelinoGambiarras 2 года назад

Thank you, that was awesome, is all ways nice Whatch your videos. I got one well that is roten all the way beyond repair I think I have to build a new one by watching I might be able to build it, it might not be perfect but I will give it a try. Kind regards from London UK 🇬🇧

@dianeengel4155 2 года назад

Good for you.

@machinemoverman4614 2 года назад

Thanks for letting me tag along.

@blackbuttecruizr 2 года назад

Ultimate green manufacturing... Reusing irons forged decades ago.

@jeffclark2725 2 года назад

Watching theses get disassembled and re assembled, Hollywood beat them to death,restoring these is a true art

@jamesmalott7851 2 года назад

Something that might help you when it comes to glue up is to use a plastic straw, one cuts the end at 45 degrees. Then use it to cleanup the glue, as this saves a lot of cleanup. Just run the straw along the seam and it will catch all the excess glue. Just a hint to try to help.

@dianeengel4155 2 года назад

Thank you.

@richardbrobeck2384 2 года назад

back in the day I am sure there were many wagon builders each having their own way of doing things and if i look in my early 1900s sears catalog, I bet they had irons and other stock wagon parts for sale. the way Imagine it is like going down to the hardware store to buy sliding barn door hardware .

@brambruijnzeel 2 года назад

Dave, once again a beauty of a video which combines old techniques and your skills to make them work! Thank again for sharing your knowledge with us. Warm greetings from the Netherlands, Bram

@steveadams99708 2 года назад

Fascinating work, and workmanship!

@stephenrice4554 2 года назад

I know it probably isn't , but the appearance of calm and progression is Hypnotic. The time passed like a warm breeze . Grand job 👍🇬🇧

@jaayjones5937 2 года назад

Your range of skills and mastery of them amazes me. No Sawstop, no riven knife, drilling with a hand drill from opposite sides and matching perfectly is obviously a skilled craftsman and artist. Wish I had access to the kind of wood you use, beautiful, straight and without knots. I look forward to your videos each week.

@redrockplumber5124 2 года назад

Thanks for letting us know what you're thinking when you lay out this kinda stuff. Great editing by the way.

@jerrygillette854 2 года назад

Dave, as a woodworker myself, I always enjoy observing your skills. The blacksmithing is very cool as well.

@esseelettronica8507 2 года назад

Lord, I always thank you for the time you take to make your videos. a greeting from Sicily

@duanelundgren7985 2 года назад

I was pleased with how well the rusty fasteners came off after the forge treatment!! Thanks, Mr. Dave!!!~

@MrTygerwhyte 2 года назад

Thank you for sharing your love of the trade.

@vincentwesolowski459 2 года назад

Greetings Dave, Some people might call you a Craftsman or a Master Craftsman, personally, I think you are an Artisan of the Wheelwright Trade.

@WayneCook306 2 года назад

Another great Job Dave.

@dalethorp3687 2 года назад

In between the hammering I noticed that the faint sound of a nice musical interlude that repeated itself. I enjoyed and found it relaxing too. Thanks for your craftsmanship and explained actions . You sir are a treasure.

@audiotechlabs4650 2 года назад

You don’t have to have an interest in horse/mule/oxen, etc. driven vehicles to get throughly entertained watching Dave create! Dave you are extremely intelligent, talented and meticulous and one of only a handful of guys that still do this kind of restoration and repair! You are a national treasure! Love EVERY video and can’t wait for the next! Summer is here and my guess is you have tons of great videos coming. Your shop is top shelf, even has a paint room! From your buddy from NW Colorado. Thanxz

@chrissmith7655 2 года назад

Hi Dave, many thanks for the info, great to watch you at work, wanted it to be longer but I know a lot of time and work to make these videos for our entertainment. Again many thanks from Nr Liverpool UK.

@clifford4200 2 года назад

You are the best, I admire you

@brownbear226 2 года назад

makes my friday even better, one day ill make it up there and see the shop and meet you

@daniellarrivee7933 2 года назад

Thanks To You Mr. Engel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@sjmazzoli 2 года назад

awesome brother...indeed..the physics of the mystics...thank you kindly

@evilbrat5376 2 года назад

Never had I seen 17 plus min. go so fast. Felt like 5 tops. Thank you for this instructional video. Waiting on the next now.

@pete_ski 2 года назад

Thanks Dave, I enjoyed the video.

@barendvorster2107 2 года назад

I coeld almost feel your pain when i saw your left thumb nail, being a mechanic i know what that feels like. Thank you for another great video.

@flywayhome8903 2 года назад

Once again thanks for the video.

@garrettswoodworx1873 2 года назад

Fastest 17 minutes of my week. Thank you for continuing to inform, educate and even entertain us Dave.

@johnbuchholz313 2 года назад

Thanks Dave for this series of videos. I am working on this same project of rebuilding a farm wagon. I had questions on the layout but you have answered all of those.

@rocksandoil2241 2 года назад

Heck I just found out what those old pieces of iron in the barn really was.

@tomtruesdale6901 2 года назад

Another great video to showcase your talents. Looking forward to the next one.

@rexmyers991 2 года назад

Wow - great explanation. Thank you

@CraigLYoung 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing 👍

@errolpoxleitner7901 2 года назад

Very good show.

@rtkville 2 года назад

Very Nice Work! Thanks...

@olddawgdreaming5715 2 года назад

Looking good Dave, looking forward to seeing it all come together. Stay safe and keep the original parts moving along to original builds, Excellent work. Fred.

@christophermaurer1271 2 года назад

Given the option of new irons or old irons ,at the same price, I would take the old.

@ariedekker7350 2 года назад

Thanks for this video. Seen on 25-6-22 at 10:12 in the NL.

@amateurshooter6054 2 года назад

Thanks Dave

@billmorris2613 2 года назад

Good morning to all from SE Louisiana 9 July 22.

@jerrycutright3267 2 года назад

Thanks again Dave for a great video!

@williamkn621 2 года назад

Such skill, quality and entertainment. So satisfying to see these videos

@allartvogelesang316 2 года назад

Changes in humidity - it's OK to assemble tongue and groove floor boards tight. I was half expecting maybe to use some spacers when nailing to allow for swelling, but of course tight prevents racking.

@steveshoemaker6347 2 года назад

Thanks young man Dave.....Shoe🇺🇸

@Landrew0 2 года назад

We tend to think in terms of standard measurements, but in the past, it didn't much matter if one wagon was different from the next one.

@danpatch4751 2 года назад

This will help me as I plan on building a box for a Stoughton bobsled. I don't have irons but can make them. Thanks for sharing this video. Your overall skills are excellent.

@sliob 2 года назад

Hey Dave, just finishing The Wheelwright’s Shop, very enjoyable, thanks for the tip!

@10lauset 2 года назад

.. Cheers to you. ..

@pauldehaan3574 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing

@lennardperry5184 2 года назад

very nice. thanks

@waniltonreisdossantos9868 2 года назад

Eu que agradeço a aula. Muitíssimo obrigado.Petrópolis-RJ Brasil

@johnnyholland8765 2 года назад

It may be an everyday mundane thing to you because it is as they say "what I do" but to me it is just a bit short of amazing...

@rodneywroten2994 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing sir

@tinachambers4887 2 года назад

Always learning something new have a day Dian how's your garden faring love from TEXAS

@dianeengel4155 2 года назад

It is doing well. I've picked spinach 3 times and I picked half a gallon of strawberries Thursday. Do you have one?

@jeffclark2725 2 года назад

Always learn something new,Thumbs up

@timothybryan5113 2 года назад

Thank you for another great video. It was awesome.

@williamjacobs236 2 года назад

Another great video Dave .

@strokerace5468 2 года назад

Man this is addicting. And i have to do is fix an old chair

@charlescompton4495 2 года назад

I'll be looking for you...kinda-sorta! Greg

@garthbutton699 2 года назад

I enjoy your skill and have been watching for,oh a long time,would you consider powder coating the wagon hardware,it would last a lot longer,I'm sure blacksmiths a century ago didn't have spray guns in fact they probably diped the parts and hung them on a wire to dry🤗😎🤗😎

@thisnicklldo 2 года назад

Invention of the devil, powder coating. It might last longer, but it will come off with knocks and rust getting under it, even if that's a few years after what would happen with paint.. And then it's un-maintainable. Impossible to strip without removing completely and sandblast (and even then, the sandblaster has to be more diligent than he figures his time is really worth), can't overpaint it, can't patch it. As far as I'm concerned, powder coating is only of use to corporations making consumer durables - a good enough coating to survive shipping and retail, looks smart in the show-room, and guaranteed built-in obsolescence after a few years.

@antoniogutierrezbarba6360 2 года назад

Presente: Cordial Saludo; Desde. Zapopan, Jalisco, Mx. Siempre Pendiente.

@Garth2011 2 года назад

Those Ace screws/fasteners are hammered into the cross braces. A better process than a drill driver I presume ?

@harveypost1841 2 года назад

I always no its Friday when u post a new vid..don't stop..just a note that wagon wheel clock should b hanging on my wall..😫..I'm watching as I hj post my white texture ceiling.the blinds down cars racing by .ceiling dancing with blinds sun reflection shadows.kind of u no GRATEFUL DEAD, JEFFERSON AIRPLANE and HEY HEY GOOD LOOKIN WHAT YA GOT COOKING..HANK WILLIAMS..🤠

@RandomStuff2024-j3g 2 года назад

Great video and as always you are very informative and highly skilled. Which got me thinking in your work you always use square nuts is their a reason for this or is it just for historic accuracy.

@scottmcfarland1177 2 года назад

The wagon is looking good! Nice job! How does the poplar stand up to the weather?

@fallenhunter7384 2 года назад

Just wondering, why the different lengths of the cross frame boards? or will that be explained later in the build? Keep up the great content! and thanks for passing your hard earned knowledge along.

@ascott6804 2 года назад

I could watch this dude build bird houses or anything.

@WilliamTMusil 2 года назад

Hiya Dave

@tluanem 2 года назад

👍👍👍

@davidsellars646 2 года назад

Dave, I have a question about applying those rivets (or, on occasion) bolts to keep the wood from splitting. Could they be put in hot to char the holes and make it easier to peen the rivets? Would the charring lessen the rust/rot of the iron and wood as things get wet?

@markneedham8726 2 года назад

Dave, Thanks and a question. Why, go to trouble of "heat bending" why not just smack 'em straight..... cold...?

@chadhilk 2 года назад

Perhaps a dumb question...Were all "chuck" wagons used as rolling kitchens? Love the videos!

@dianeengel4155 2 года назад

Yes

@vilson901 2 года назад

👏👏👏👏👏

@Pushyhog 2 года назад

late here, but here! Beeswax

@brianlittle3452 2 года назад

At 11:00 minutes, Dave is using a different shape of hammer. What type of hammer is it and what is its special purpose or characteristics? Thanks and thanks for the videos.

@horacerumpole6912 2 года назад

Shoeing nail hammer

@brianlittle3452 2 года назад

@@horacerumpole6912 Thanks.

@hayward434 2 года назад

All those pieces appear to be originaly wrought iron, so cooling them would not make them brittle. Right?

@dianeengel4155 2 года назад

Right except he put the other end in the water so he could handle them.

@rodkraal7255 2 года назад

Hi Dave, as a Harness Maker and Wagon Restorer I really enjoy your channel and have been following your work, please keep it up. I do have one question though, I am not sure if you have commented on this in previous videos and if so please direct me to that but if not, /i would as if you could tell us what is the glue you use. Thanks again love your channel, Rod Down under in New Zealand.

@horacerumpole6912 2 года назад

Titebond lll

@philmenzies2477 2 года назад

Interesting to see @ 6:00 you didn't trim that, (looked like) heartwood, (sapwood maybe), off. Was that something else, or did you want that other board edge for something?

@12345....... 2 года назад

What is that media you keep on top of your forge? Is it to keep the heat localized?

@Garth2011 2 года назад

It retains the heat, such as a heat sink to help heat up the material put in the forge. Don't know what they call the stuff, maybe coke.

@horacerumpole6912 2 года назад

Coal-

@dianeengel4155 2 года назад

Are you talking about what he is burning? It is coal.

@vincentwesolowski459 2 года назад

Greetings Dave, You normally build your projects using the past methods of the Wheelwright trade. When you were assembling the floor of this wagon you attached the floor boards to the cross frames with nails. Ok, this is how these wagons were assembled years ago, no problem. My question is, why didn’t you use some Titebond glue on the tops of the cross frames? You used Titebond on the side boards corners. Wouldn’t the floor boards being glued to the cross frames add rigidity to the wagon floor and keep the nails from popping out? I don’t doubt your methods, you are the consummate craftsman, just wondering? Thank you for all of your videos.

@dwightl5863 2 года назад

I'm thinking that without the glue, the floor will be able to expand and contract. The nails will allow that to happen. Whereas if glued, that won't happen. IMHO

@john196719670 2 года назад

Just out of curiosity do you use cut nails or flat head nails?

@johncone9516 2 года назад

Dave given the age of the box wagon irons you have cleaned and freed up, what thread are they please? Joseph Whitworth standardised the threads here in the UK in 1841. it s call the British Standard Whitworth. Not used much these days thanks to our EU partners.