Despicable Me 4 - Untitled Review Show 

Happy 4th of July!!

Adding a baby doesnt add a character, it adds a baby.

Cinema employees watching a bunch of Teens to Young Adults in tuxedos walking into a mid kids movie:

To me, the films lost their charm once Gru stopped being despicable, and just became a funny dad.

Its official, Despicable Me is the new Ice Age.

Everytime I think of the current quality of the Despicable Me franchise, I go back to the stuff you said in your Transformers 5 video: "But this series, for whatever reason, is never affected. They always make tons and tons of money" "It is so tired and repetitive..." "You have the right to demand better....You have the right to demand more exciting crap"

It seems like they wanted to make a despicable me TV show, and the project got axed, so they stitched a season of sitcom plotlines together into a movie.

I love how right after people saying that Illumination "redeemed themselves" after making The Super Mario Bros. Movie for being a somewhat decent videogame movie (mostly because Nintento were breathing down their necks) they released the *SIXTH* Despicable Me/Minions and they were like "Oh yeah this is the animation studio that ruined animated movies worse than DreamWorks." It's the reason why I can't bring myself to hate "modern Disney and Pixar" because at least their animated movies feel like they're trying a bit more than Illumination just making "animated kids movies"... or "cinematic babysitters" as Doug says.

I agree Doug. A movie should have comical jokes to entertain audiences. Films don't need characters moving at the same certain pace just to make kids happy. They need emotion , they power , they need to have certain traits to get audiences into what's happening in the film.

To borrow a quote from Linkara: "Teach kids to laugh at clever humor, not "Norg has a cold"." Also as PhantomStrider once said: "Even if you say "it's just for kids, it's not like adults have to like it", that's not entirely true. Parents often have to see these movies with their kids. So they have to be written with some intelligence and insight, while also being entertaining to kids. That's the magic of a good kids cartoon."

What bothers me the most is that the youngest girl is still a freaking toddler

My biggest issue with the film is that it has artificial stakes. It claims that Gru and his family are in danger, but you never see them be in danger. For example, the scene in the grocery store. The trailer made me think a supervillain was attacking Lucy and the girls, but no. It was just a random woman who had beef with Lucy. The villain that claims to be on the hunt for Gru is barely seen being on the hunt for Gru; all you get is hilarious evil antics while he flies around. Also, the film sets up plotlines that go nowhere like Margo (who's barely in the movie), struggling with moving to a new school, and Agnes not wanting to use her fake name. What I did like was the Mega Minions and the bond that forms with Gru and the neighbor's daughter (a little bit). Also Agnes. I love Agnes.

An interesting take for the next Despicable Me movie (which the director will most likely never consider) is to do a time skip for the girls grow up. Maybe Margo starting her freshman year, Edith starting 7th grade, and Agnes starting 5th grade. The movie could be about Gru and Lucy struggling to balance out their job while helping out the girls with school work and raising Gru Jr. There could be a boy that falls in love with Margo, the boy’s parent (or parents) could be a villain,& the final battle taking place at high school prom.

I rather have a memorably bad film than a forgettable film any days of the week

If it wasn't for those commercials making fun of AI, people would be accusing this movie of being written by AI

I got the impression that this would be the last one because it ended with all the characters from the movies all dancing.

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People: Kung Fu Panda 4 is a terrible sequel! Despicable Me 4: Hold my beer.

Is it just me or does the villain look like they just ripped off Dr. Doofenshmitz's design?

Their was one joke that did actually land pretty hard in my theater near the beginning of the film and it involved gru being gone so long that his wife asks if he remembered to bring home some milk that’s a decent dark joke

This is honestly exactly what I expected from this movie.

6:01 To be fair, they do play around with the Spider-Man 2 reference. When the stretchy Minion stops the train, you're thinking, "Oh, he stopped the train like in Spider-Man 2." But no, it actually gets flung backwards and hits the side of a building!

I felt like after the 2nd the franchise went downhill. The 3rd one had an interesting villain with a gimmick. This one felt like let’s take a bunch of short stories and combine them together to make a film.

Ever since the second movie they could've explored deeper themes like Gru's relationship with his mother, the lack of afrection he had as a child and why he decided to become a villain. Instead they choose to make without substance only to make more money, fine I guess.. 🤷‍♂️

I think I would rather go see Inside Out 2 again.

Irritated that this will ultimately dethrone Inside Out 2.

The minion franchise is the Defenition of missed potential and execution Edit: I think people missed what I meant, but to be honest I don't blame them, I've should've said this in more details than justa lame ass comment, What I meant was that the minion franchise could have been good, and yes, the first movie could've had some changes but it could've worked otherwise, and the first movie isn't bad, it's actually pretty good, but the rest of the franchise was badly executed, they went too hard on the, stupid and dim-witted humour, boring and platitudinious storytelling, and the stupid ass minions guapaligoo! Were quirky and we love bananas sthick that the idea and potential of the movies went down the drain, I can imagine minions as more cartoony and slapsticky and weird, since they speak in a frenchish mixed with english and spanish and a bit gibberish, and are all different in appearence, height and the number of eyes, and in the first movie were more for a side gag and slapstick moments than to be the focus of the movies, I thought if they'd sticked around with the inital intention it could create a more tolerable version of the minions, plus the first movie had heart and a soul, the rest has nothing, no heart or soul, and nothing good what so ever, except for el macho, if the movies were more like a dreamworks/warner brothers film and everything above, and less babyish brain rot content it could've had been great, but the money talked louder and now this is what we got!

Something I did wish the film did was have the three daughters have more agency in the movie. Like they could’ve had some stuff about Margo struggling to fit into her new school and maybe her and Poppy forming a friendship or something Maybe have something about Anges struggling with being in Edith’s shadow and trying to become her own person. Maybe have something about her standing up to the karate instructor and beating him in a fight or something

This is franchise is like the opposite of Shrek. Shrek has 3 good movies and 1 bad movie, Shrek has good memes, Shrek had spin offs that were good, Shrek had effort and heart put into it.

The ending Song by Pharrell being a secret Drake diss track is the funniest part of the film imo

I don't care if the movie is "just a kid's movie". I just want the movie to have something to relate to, something that a lot of Illumination's animated movies are missing (except for "Despicable Me" and "The Super Mario Bros. Movie"). They need to just let the writers write and stop playing it safe (even though that might go beyond their budget). Sometimes Illumination is just doing it for Universal. However, in my opinion, even the bad movies can be enjoyable if you choose to enjoy these poorly made movies. (I even enjoyed "Sing 2") Although, I believe that you're right about having the jokes actually be funny. I sure hope that Illumination stops this creativity-limiting budgeting with their movies, but I do understand why they're still doing it since Universal owns them. Although, I respect everyone's opinions (even yours).

Cinematic Babysitters is soooo accurate

Despicable Me 6: Dude, where's my Minions? Oh right, they were cut from the movie because they talk too much!

Doug is really getting up there in age. The older he gets, the harsher and more cynical he becomes. Sheez.

I started to hate the minions on the 3rd movie.

Minions be taking over the world more than Gru is XD

One thing I always give Illumination credit for is their backgrounds. I guess I'm a fan of detailed accurate backgrounds, an example of that is Brooklyn in the Mario movie. I thought it looked gorgeous.

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So with all these forced references this movie is essentially Conker's Bad Fur Day without the profanity or swearing?

02:47 Jeremy: Yep, already forgot.

*Wacky Waving Real Live Human Hands + 90s EXTREME voice* - "IN THREE DEE!!!!" I don't remember Tropes' name for that, but I like my version too. ;)

Dear animation studios, please don’t make fourth movies of animated trilogies! Toy Story, Shrek, Kung Fu Panda, didn’t need a fourth movie! Despicable Me already has spin-offs and web series that makes this movie redundant!

0:01 - Sounds great, Doug.

Same year as “despicable me”, we got “megamind”, and actually well done and interesting movie about the balance and subjectivity of good and evil. And it sank because of those annoying, yet incredibly marketable yellow bastards. Yeah, yeah, a sequel is in the works, but too little too late. “Despicable” should have been a one-shot.

Whats next? Minions 3: Gru Hits Puberty?

They really should stop running this franchise into the ground. There's four main movies, a Minions spin-off, a prequel...

They played that series out.

I would kill for a nostalgia critic of this (also happy 4th doug)

This movie was so mid. The humor was centered on the minions hurting each other. The plot was devoid of anything interesting. The villain was absolutely the worst. Even Will Ferrell couldn't save this. The villian's ship was a rip off. The baby hates Gru until he takes the baby on a heist. Ralph in the vending machine. My daughter didn't laugh once. The movie throws out the idea that Gru is a genius. Why is he going into witness protection when he has an underground lair?

The fourth movie sequels that pissed people off: Indiana Jones: Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Toy Story 4 Kung Fu Panda 4 Despicable Me 4 😅

I was fatigued when they did a Minions spinoff.....I mean I haven't seen Despicable Me 3 and minions rise of gru but after seeing the 4th one, I don't know if I should

many people thought Super Mario Bros was a sign of Illumination improving and making stuff other than 'babysitter movies" like Doug put it,but let's be real: Super Mario turned out better than that only because Nintendo was there on their necks to make sure they wouldn't turn their characters into generic unfunny(except for little kids) Illumination ones.

At least the previous movie had the novelty of having Trey Parker in it.

It sounds like they literally just threw a handful of darts at ideas, and put them in to make a paycheck.

These horrific character designs are animated so WELL!

the franchise is officially dead.

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I recently watched a kids show on Peacock and there was only one ad break per episode, but it was the trailer for this movie, so I had to watch it 26 times! And I still have no idea what it’s about.

The 3rd movie felt like a few TV episodes that were cobbled into a film.

If you give Gru a moustache, a red jacket and glasses... Gru looks like Dr. Robotnik... Was this an origin story this whole time?

I didn't even know there was a 4th.

When I heard Gru's family going into witness protection, I was like, okay, this villain must be badass, super intimidating or one of the villains from Rise of Gru coming back for revenge years later, still alive. Then, it's like, meh?

Best part of the film was the ending with the cover of Everybody Want to Rule the World. Cause it's re-introduced all the films past villains together for the first time in the series. Something that I wanted to see in a Despicable Me sequel is all the previous villains coming together to get revenge on Gru. That would of made for better idea for a sequel. Also SPOILER. Vector appealing did somehow made it back to Earth sometimes after the Mooned Short and also why it is that Scarlet and Herb clearly show that they've aged while the Vicious 6 seems to haven't age a day?

Yeah, the Despicable Me franchise should’ve ended years ago, considering JUST HOW disappointed the third one was. But, then again, I did enjoy Rise of Gru, sooooooo…

Yeah the Minions and Gru have overstayed their welcome so they should end things here.

A Despicable me 1 was enough. Anything onwards was completely unnecessary.

I think it's worse for a movie to be bland than awful... because if it was just bad then you'd remember why it was bad. If it was bland then you wouldn't remember it by next week.

I have a bad feeling when AniMat reviews the film, he’s going to give it the Seal of Garbage and seeing this review and hearing about the problems just CONFIRMS it.

After Despicable Me 2 (or the Minions spin-off movie) everything fell down and the franchise became a trash cash grab movie series where the title “Despicable Me” doesn’t even make since now

I laughed watching this video at 2x speed more than the entirety of despicable me 2 and 3

The first one is really good. It has so much heart. I was really disappointed with that sequel

I really needed this movie. I turned my brain off and loved it. No poltics, silly jokes that made the little ones laugh in the cinema. I really want spin off about little villain girl. :)

Doug I felt the same way! Literally every scene felt like "Ooo! let's do this plot with this character!" -writer drinks water and lets their ADHD kick in for the 76th time- "Actually nevermind, forget that plot! let's do this plot!"

They should just stop right here with Despicable Me. There was never a need for a fourth movie because the third one wasn’t particularly good same with kung fu panda they should just stop it at three. There is never need to expand it for fourth one the only franchises they need to focus on is Mario and that’s it And as for DreamWorks they need to focus on other things besides kung fu panda like give us Puss in boots 3.

6:17 Gooner for that stuff is my lack of humanity.

You know, I can understand the argument that it’s ok for kids films to be lighter and more comedic because it’s comforting for them, but I also feel that comedic animation needs some sense of passion and craft to it. The Looney Tunes are more sophisticated than most kids stuff even if they lean into mindless slapstick technically, but the reason they have lasted and have both kids and adults laughing is because of the craft of the jokes. It isn’t trying to give a message or heartfelt emotion, it’s just trying to make you laugh. These movies bother me not because of the oversaturation or that they lack ambition, it’s that they lack a sense of purpose or structure to anything other than distracting a kid for an hour and a half. It’s ok to give kids something more entertaining than insightful, but at least be bothered to put some effort into entertaining the kids instead of the bare minimum under the belief that they will just eat it up no matter what you put out.

My sister and I were talking abt how this movie felt like a Despicable Me Tv Show pasted together in order to be on theater

in a recent interview they reveal that the reason why the girls don't grow up is because they took simpson logic and they are frozen in time. My guess that the reason on why this entire franchise exist is because they want to be something closer to old school cartoons like looney tunes or tom and jerry where is nothing but gags and not trying to fall into the disney trap, but the reason why those cartoons still holod up is that they have an edge no other modern cartoon can top, even if is for adults like rick and morty. So something like the minions getting hurt won't literally and figurative have the same longing impact as tom getting hurt.

just got s DM4 ad for this video XD

Illumination is the perfect definition of those jokes the Oscar's said about animated movies

Wow. Carl Winslow becomes a nerd in an episode

Quite enjoyed first 2. Decent on third. This one is bad by those standards? Bummer...

As someone who enjoyed the previous three Despicable Me movies, this one was just the worst. Even my mom, who loves these movies, didn't enjoy this one. Sometimes, there's a laugh here and there, and the layout is pretty good, but the writing is a mess. There's like 8 storylines, and some of them are not even finished, a lot of the story is miss potential, and there were too many characters, they could've cut some of them. Also, this is a nick pick, but it tries too hard to be like the first two movies. It has the same font of credits, it's shot in 1.85 instead of 2.35 like in DM3 and Minions 2, they even make a call back joke of Ramsbottom with the Minions. Even the new villain sucks, I was constatley reminding him as the alien croackoch of MIB, and how they defeat him is lame. Like (SPOILERS): Vector was traped in the moon, El Macho was electrucated by Lucy's lipstick taser, Balthazar Bratt is blowed away by his own keytar, and this guy is just punched by Gru and then falls in the building. LAME. Despicable Me 3 has it's issues, there were too many subplots, but at least they tried to developt those plots and give it a conclusion. And even if it's a bit less funny than 1 and 2, I still laughed watching. There was rarely a joke in Despicable Me 4 that made me giggle or laugh a bit, but there were no jokes that made me laugh out loud. I can see myself rewatching the first three movies and even Minions: Rise of Gru, but I don't see myself re-watching this one ever again.

This feels like it should've gone directly to streaming. It's not good enough for theaters but would've been perfectly serviceable to watch on Netflix when you've got nothing better to do. Essentially it's what Megamind 2 should've been, which is a perfectly serviceable follow-up that doesn't make you want to bleach your eyes, swish your mouth with full-proof Everclear, and have a full hot coffee colonic after watching it just to get the taste out of your mouth.

God help us how many more of these movies they make….

You are going to have to review these movies as Nostalgia Critic at some point, and make the minions “sing” it in their language.

I still really enjoy 1 and 2 and think 3 is ok, but I just did not know what to think of the trailer for this other than I don’t appreciate how it seemed to completely disregard the events of 3.

this is the kind of movie you take a kid to when you want to punish them.

BRINK BACK DARK TOONS DAMNNIT.

I wish he noted how dumb it was how vector flossed near the end

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"movement porn" was exactly what I thought about Hotel Transylvania 4

I liked villain cameos at end

So pretty much Shrek the Third of Despicable Me Movies

Is this the one where the Minions finally die?

To be fair the 2nd film had very old references that the kids and also even the parents wouldn’t get 😅

Wilbert Awdry once said: "When you're writing these stories, you're writing for a whole lot of people. You're writing for the unfortunate parents who have to read them time after time after time. You have to add little funny bits, subtle bits. Things that the adults reading will like. As well as the simple things children like." This should absolutely apply to movies too. A lot of the time, parents are right there next to the kids watching.

Can you do a Nostalgia Critic video on Kirby: Fright to the Finish?

Honestly Doug I respectfully disagree with you me and my family saw it last night and we absolutely loved it we almost fell out of our seats because we were laughing so hard those minions crack us up every time Lol 😂🤣😂 And we can’t honestly wait for the next installment Hope you had a great holiday with your family Have a Wonderful Weekend 😊

I checked out of this franchise since the second movie. I was about 13-15. I am 32 now. My niece and nephew got me checked out.