@user-xs3os3ez5h wow! The person that you're responding to, took a conservative stance and you call them a liberal. Your lack of understanding of politics is embarrassing.
A city can't seize abandoned property and use it to help people. They can only arrest artists trying to do something beautiful with abandoned property. Seriously, you want the government to manage the area it rules over and use it's authority to help people? That would be socialism!
Because by “city” you mean us, the taxpayer. Why would I pay for affordable housing for illegals and drug addicts in DTLA while my own cost of living is higher than ever? Why don’t people think before they ask stupid questions?
The taggers should squat at the buildings and say it’s there home. Then the city would have to give them a 30 day eviction notice and then take them to months long court
If only real estate law required at least half time residence in the state in order to buy/develop land/property....the laws must be changed if we expect change.
That’s not a good idea. Investors come from different states all the time. Their investments are good for the city and bring jobs. Go after the criminals not the victims.
@@luckyu521yeah so far this investment has been greatly beneficial to its community. You're right tho, it did bring jobs, now someone's gotta clean it up LOL
I second this. Tired of all of the complaints. If you don't like it then leave, quit, go away quietly, otherwise there are some of us here for the fight. L.A/California is an "eyesore" because of what exactly? The homeless? Do some research and you'll find the state with the 4th largest economy in the world is funding and taking care of people from all over the u.s because the armpit that is the Midwest and all other states not named NY, Florida and Texas can't provide for their own residents thus are being shipped to warmer climate states that can harbor these poor folks. A good 60-70% of the homeless are transplants. What's happening in my beautiful state is a symptom of the country, not an isolated issue. So next time you insult my state understand this, we are the largest contributor to federal funding all the while taking in some of the lowest. We fund the U.S, we allow you to have a privileged life. Don't be mad at California, be mad at whatever state you may live in because it is a drain on us @@omi_god
These Chinese developers received their permanent resident visas and they're GONE! Maybe to come back when the market is more favorable... Chinese developers slow-roll ALL the projects they're involved with here in Southern California! They take FOREVER to complete, and construction comes in spurts sometimes a year in between phases! They try to do EVERYTHING on the cheap usually using shoddy non-union sub-contractors wherever they can! PAN CONSTRUCTION is a big-time China state-backed general contractor that does a ton of work here in the San Gabriel Valley and ALL its jobs are run like that!! Pretty sad!
If the foreign company that owns this isn’t going to do anything about it the city needs to seize it and turn it into housing for the thousands of people that need it. There’s space there and you can even have offices for social services.
..respectfully, i understand why trump said no more chinese investors....iykyk...and at first i was hesitant, but if its just there dilapidated and taking up valuble commercial space than yea, they need to pay to clean it up....lowkey they do this to lower our real estate values...they buy houses raise up the rent and/or leave them empty and it has systematically plundered us...hitting us in the pocketbooks
Who is the bank? Why has it not been foreclosed and auctioned off? Why did the city wait so long? Why didn't the city put in security, they do this when they perform taking someone's property and they charge the property owner for the security. They are asleep at the wheel until they found out if they took it over it would cost them $1 billion. If they take someone's property for small amounts why not the big one?
That's the trick that Chinese investors do. Make the mistakes and have the city tax payers clean it up. It's about a poor investment and now the blame is shifted on taggers instead of the millions of dollar mistakes that "investors" thought was a great idea to giant buildings of concrete that serve no purpose, current market needs and the city (tax payers) will have to pay to remove it (not developers)
@@omi_godmaking you pay for vandalizing something that doesn’t belong to you which you couldn’t then putting you in prison for making people who pay taxes pay for your child drawings. Pay a bill it might help you understand.
If you aren't going to build a tent city in the desert for the homeless as I suggest, take over these buildings, and make them homeless accommodations!😎✌🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽
@1st4mendment These condos couldn't be for the crazies, it would need to be for those people, and families that want to work, and just need time to get back on their feet. The crazies would be throwing each other off the balconies. 😅
@@omi_god It may be to the owners benefit to take them over, and they could be finished to a much lower standard than originally planned for. It's just an idea should the owner refuse, or not have the funds to to fix the place up, and continue security on the site. You have any better ideas?✌😎🗽
If the Chinese developer (that is now defunct) refuses to respond to the City of LA's requests to maintain and secure their property, then Eminent Domain can be invoked since it's essentially been abandoned. The city could then secure the sites, remove the graffiti, and then fast track an auction to sell it to a developer. The cost of cleanup and providing security can be recouped after the auction. This could take months though, unfortunately. Plus the sites are incomplete and might require up to $1 billion to finish. This can still be profitable though considering the towers being mostly finished and only the interior being incomplete. It would be better than building from scratch. This could also make much needed housing available.
Clean it up, place a lien on the eye sore property and then foreclose on that lien to collect your fees by seizing the building and selling it at auction.
Until that day comes, the city would then have the responsibility, both for upkeep and any injuries to trespassers. They don't want that. As it stands right now, the building is worthless. the city knows this. they couldn't sell, they'd have to pay someone to take it off their hands.
Truly an idiotic question. This would require specialized hi-rise work. Anybody gets hurt would be the city's responsibility. And before anybody "gets" to clean up anything, there has to be a charge and a sentence in court. Any more such bright ideas??
I agree, I drove by the other day since it's been making the news. No one seemed to notice or care before that. Now cops and security all over loI. i say leave it be. And let the artist paint. And tip of advice don't trust Chinese business people no matter how many billions of dongs that have 😝
@@omi_god as far as I know, hardly anybody got arrested (one guy was on the news in cuffs). And they have to be "caught in the act", or it is simply trespassing. And how many would you need to finish the job?? Only a fraction of the taggers will ever get identified and prosecuted. So you have a handful to do a job that will take months. In the meantime, LA is going to be responsible if anybody does fall off and gets killed or injured. But those are minor concerns. I can tell you got this all thought thru.
@@omi_god You're wrong. The issue is if the city, either by taking over the project from the current owners thru eminent domain, or as part of a sentencing and restitution scheme, forces untrained and unexperienced people to go up those towers and do work under hazardous conditions, it is the city that now becomes liable for any injuries or deaths. If somebody who is forced by the city to "clean up this mess" (whatever that means) dies as a result, that person's family can and will bring a multi-million dollar suit against the city, and they will win. Which is OK, because it is your idea, and you will reimburse the city, won't you??
Little grasshopper: That's the narrative that everyone isn't discussing. Chinese developers can do whatever they want with buying and sitting on property even at the detriment of using that space for more civic and city improvements to give better rental rates for poor working class people or homeless and clean the streets, it's all about Let's get everyone to focus on "taggers" that are ruining some Rich Chinese person's ego.
I don’t understand why it’s taken so long to do anything about the vandalism? As soon as the first tag was seen on the windows the entire site needed to be shut down as tight as a max security prison. I’ve seen numerous holes in the fencing & many other points of entry. Why the delay until all the floors are tagged? How long before the 1st person falls to their death & LA is sued. You see tags on windows where there is only a narrow ledge to stand on. Crazy. But it’s a competition to the vandals. But someone is going to fall to their death.
Graffiti removal is usually done by sandblasting when it's on a wall or something. This graffiti here is on glass. There is no sandblasting glass. These windows will need to be replaced.
There are chemicals that dissolve spray paint. A paint thinner like acetone is one of them. There are also proprietary chemical agents that work well specifically made for graffiti removal and don't require sand blasting.
@@stevegonzo2091 Possibly. But if it's done with a eye toward eventually selling these units, it would have to look like there never was any graffiti - at all. How else could anybody be expected to pay top dollar if they enjoy the view thru windows with the faint outline of what used to be there.
Ok people, now the news is out. First come first serve. I’ll take the 3rd floor. 😅 Listen, “The unpaid security company are gone!” did you hear that? 😊
That's the narrative that everyone isn't discussing. Chinese developers can do whatever they want with buying and sitting on property even at the detriment of using that space for more civic and city improvement to give better rental rates for poor working class people or homeless and clean the streets, it's all about Let's get everyone to focus on "taggers" that are ruining some Rich Chinese person's ego.
poor investment and now the blame is shifted on taggers instead of the millions of dollars of mistakes that "investors" thought was a great idea. Let's blame the taggers for making a poor investment decision that will create giant buildings of concrete that serve no purpose and the city (tax payers) will have to pay to remove it (not developers)
Maybe clean up the type of people who want to graffiti. That city is getting over run by guys who are trying to be like their famous neighbors and act like gang members. It’s spreading, I would do a community sweep just look around on who’s acting the toughest and throw them in jail 😂 nothing makes sense anymore so 🤷♂️
We shouldn't let any foreign corporation from building and owning any US property. But that would require uncorrupt government officials to pass any commonsense law like that.
Then take “your” hard earned money 🙄 build your own building and paint your 2nd grade scribbles all over it as you please. It’s simple you don’t pay for it don’t touch it. If someone has a car sitting in there driveway for ten years do you go and paint that or act like it’s yours because it’s been sitting there. Grow up.
So this same city council gets caught saying that them as Hispanics have been redlining black communities that are left, out of LA. And not one have been brought up on charges?
Get people charged with traffic or other crimes to do community work and clean it up or find the grafitti artist & let them clean it up but the development needs to b completed. Not just sit there.
So the Chinese Developer gets to just walk away? Government is ineffective. With all of the homeless, no one can devise a plan to utilize these buildings?!
Oh god, what do we do? I guess the city of LA will have to take over the building and charge the tax payers for it. Who could have guessed? Poor city of LA, inheriting chinese buildings on the US taxpayers dollar. Let's all send thoughts and prayers out for LA, and to the future owners that buy the building from LA at pennies on the dollar, after the taxpayers have already foot the bill
How is that an eyesore. The entire city of LA is covered with graffiti, it's not anything different than seeing graffiti on every block. It's more like rich wealthy property got graffiti that seems to be the problem.
This is the problem with rising cost of living in LA. Wealthy people from other countries come in and buy up our land and inflate prices and gentrify everything.
An "eyesore?!" Give me a break. Have they given these artists medals yet? This is a damn masterpiece. It's a human accomplishment the likes we've never seen before! "An eyesore?!?" "Vandals?!?!" More like ARTISTS & SAVANTS. Give these people the building and let them divvy up the cash they get when they sell this paragon.
CITY IS TO BLAME!! INSPECTORS HAVE THE RIGHT AND ARE SUPPOSED TO SECURE BUY EMINANT DOMAIN OR BOARD UP PROCESSES. IF THE BUILING BURNS, COULD COLAPSE AND CAUSE DAMAGE TO SURROUNG PROPERTIES!!! DO YOUR JOB! *REGARDLESS OF IF THE DEVELOPER IS ON TOP OF IT. DISCUSTING! GREAT L,A .... SHOW THE PUNKS AROUND THE WORLD, THATS ITS OK TO WRECK STUFF. THE CITY LET THIS HAPPEN. *THIS IS WHY I LEFT L.A. FIRE INSPECTORS FOR NOT SECURING WITH FENCE. BILLL THE DELVOPER LATER... SIMPLE.... THE BIGGINING OF THE END HAS BUGUN. LORD HELP..SOME OF US... WOW,
🤣 they’re not gonna do anything. Zero enforcement. Oceanwide did the same thing here in downtown. Left two giant tower sites unfinished for years. Still empty
Why are the Chinese allowed to do anything like this in our country? The city took all their cut in the form of permits and other fees so now they are stuck with this mess.
😂 Newbies new to California, haven't seen Los Angeles full of graffiti from freeways to buildings. Nothing news here, just that graffiti have a better high-rises billboards view.