Reminder that if we are not happy with the moji rework, its not set in stone yet. Its gonna get to the PTS first, so if we happen to hate it, we can submit our feedback and make them go back, like we did many times in the past. Remember that shitty item store rework? we stopped it from happening even though it was pretty advanced. This is no difference.
I mean, moji already "failed" on flank role I think we are gaining more than losing on this rework But i agree on having a dmg only talent, like grohk or pip, so old players can still play the "flank moji"
@@timolechicguy buck has a huge hotbox and is close range as well just like moji. Difference is he has sustain, dmg reduction and a better mobility. Not to mention DPS like drogoz, willo and bomb king that also has huge hotboxes for being dps. Also we haven't tried the reworked Moji yet to know if she is better as a support.
i've been playing this game for like 7 years and i have yet to really encounter a hacker, or at least not in a LONG time. Is it the server ur own perhaps?
@@bestteapartyever2877 I mean I usually play casual but I've reached diamond before and hadn't run into any hackers (at least from what I can recall). Console doesn't really suffer from that issue all that much.
@@bigcsbigbrother3685 i think its a good change. moji's model and kit in general is kind of illsuited to being a flank. i wouldnt have minded converting moji to a tank either.
Loool I remember years ago when Moji was considered the worst champion (like bottom tier) - everyone was somewhat onboard with the Healer Moji. But now she's not as unplayable so people aren't as happy. I did hear she might be getting a talent that keeps the flank playstyle so fingers crossed.
They never gave her any sort of vertical mobility while keeping 2 healing talents. She just needed proper attention to make her effective as a flank imo, I don't think making her a support is necessary in any way tbh.
it looks like she would still be played as a flank kind like furia is played as a damage sup... in fact im worried that she can be even stronger now in some comps...
@IckyStickyRicky123 we're not talking about that, we're talking about a skin. A skin for your Asian Robin Hood in an East meets west pass just seems like an easy thing to do. But nah, another skin for Thot Angel
I dont know about the mark now healing. If people didnt enjoy playing dmg moji applying a burst dmg mark, I dont know is applying a burst dmg healing will be more fun
Lets be real here Moji was suited better at being a Damage or Frontline more than a flanks so seeing this change will be intresting. Although A support who gas a even bigger hit box that Pip will be intresting
the funny thing is that they MADE her better at flanking with the new infinite mobility, but at no point they thought "wait hold on let's try this change alone first"
Lets make everyone a support character now, Andro can simply heal everyone by fisting them, and Viktor has a friendlier version of Napalm, I'm sure of it
I was on board with Moji becoming a support but not like this. I though they were going to make Magic Barrier have a healing aura similar to Skye smoke Screen or how you can detonate magic marks to heal all allies similar to Raums Subservience Talent. But not like this.
the whole idea of adding healing onto her attack is a failure of epic proportions... it basically makes her heal able to be blocked by a shield.... and there's no easy remedy to that.... like you cant just make her healing pass through shields like other healers because that also means her damage will be phasing through shields...
Moji being changed into a damage wouldnt even require any changes. Moji becoming a better flank would just require a mobility buff. But completely snubbing her unique mechanics and making her a healer?
we still need to see how the mark works for enemies, but if the magic barrier no longer grants inmunity, then moji dps/flanker is dead. She need that inmunity for her huge hitbox. i also agree that minor changes could make her fit better as a flank, rather than this rework. Also applying a mark for burst healing doesnt feels more fun that applying a mark for burst dmg
not gonan lie, the moji skins looks really bad, like it looks like a cursed doll or something. not ugly funny, just ugly ugly, mainly the colors and those eyes. Some day we moji players will get a good skin, this one and the previous one were dissapointing
You killed Moji for the most uninspired redesign of all time. Wow, you took all her current abilities and made them worse -- cool. Also, the community manager Kryptek promised a viable flank version of Moji would still be available. What the hell happened there? You took away her AOE, you cut her damage in half, you broke her Magic Shield, and your DPS talent is a BUFF TO HER SPRAY THAT DOES NO DAMAGE. And this is the kicker -- the buff is FIVE DAMAGE HIGHER THAN CURRENT MOJI. So she lost everything about her that's cool, became a boring support that sits behind the team and sprays mindlessly all game, and the flex-to-flank feature you promised is a five damage buff alongside nerfs to literally every other part of her kit. Cool. But hey, at least you made Scamper infinite -- you know, that ability everyone cuts off early because bunny hopping is more fun anyways? You guys killed Moji to reuse her skins and art for this dumb support version no one wanted, and the only people that are going to enjoy playing it are people that never liked Moji to begin with. Hope that was worth killing off a whole section of Moji mains that have nothing to get excited for in your game now. Classic Evil Mojo anti-community move, what an insult.
@@Melovelot I agree with you. Better yet Imma stop whinning for a bit and not only ask to revert Moji back to what she was before the class change but ask for buffs (Toot in base kit, second dash...) and the Support version being changed into a new Echo Champion a la Omen. We don't accept Support Moji but we're willing instead to give level-headed feedbacks and to even resurrect the Echo idea so that any changes they want for the old champions be repurposed into Echo champions instead (like the Torvald reworks some people want).
Just checked patch notes. You didn't "increase Lillith's versatility" at all lmao. You guys just straight up murdered her. Massive reduction to health, but swarm at lv 3 still consumes 800 blood. And now you're also taking her mobility away by reworking Wings of Terror into a useless card? Amazing work, guys.
@@TheButterSurge because she sacrifices her own health to heal others, now she can't even put a fully charged swarm down without being at risk of getting one-shot by a sniper.
@@maldambao6126 not to mention I was killed many times in ult before these changes, they're gonna instantly slap me now when I ult xD it's sad since she was nerfed already and didn't have nearly as much blood gain like when on release when she was a tank. She's not even picked in ranked nor is she banned... she is perfectly balanced so I don't know why the huge nerf now is needed... Oh well... First Skye now Lilith. I wonder who's next on the list to make it feel like hell for me to play @_@
Oh my god what have they done to Lillith? She had so much blood health because she has to constantly use it for her abilities. How could they rework certain abilities or cards to make this change good? And supports will heal less and deal more damage? This entire update looks like a mess already 😤
So healers no longer 'heal'? I know very few that would welcome more damage over staying the same (no patch) or better healing. Just run all DPS / Flank with a DPS Tank thrown in (Raum for healing and a 10k health card build). Maybe play a support for "old time's sake" but stop playing Support for faster 'twitch' matches. Overwatch went this route. Why I stopped playing it altogether since it went to OW 2.0 ...errr, OW 2. 🙄
@Zarrick I think some supports didn't get healing nerfs but others like Grover, Lillith, Ying, Grohk and Rei did, probs a bit more but not everyone. And a lot got a few minor damage buffs too. Imo it was a silly change, there's nothing wrong with healing and it's the primary function of a support. Why encourage people to do that less? But Lillith got hit hard, healing nerfs everywhere they could've given her. She was strong, I'll give them that but still felt unnecessary. I also saw on the bp timer that it's going to be 155 days until the next update. So if that's not a bug and it's true, we're stuck with people wanting to do more damage than healing for 5 months 😂 It's not the worst update but I feel like a lot of these changes were so unnecessary and they just ran out of things to do
@@AndrewC79 Instead of patching apparent bugs and glitches affect gameplay, many of these companies listen to the thumb-sucking whales that fill their stockholders bank accounts. A shame about Lilith. I got used to manually dropping her AOE instead of the cop-out "follow me" version. Got alot of kills / heals that way. Still have to play her to 50 so I can get the gold-skin (which looks awesome at least). Grinding from 43 will be hell now. 😑 I really hope I don't have to erase this game from my HD because game developers feel they are helping the fanbase by breaking an already bug-infested mess. Thanks for the reply. Just have to suffer through. Hopefully the skins are nice. The game mechanics are broken beyond repair but those characters are hot! 🙄
@Zarrick This game really is a joke but we're all still holding on, the characters are the only thing keeping us going. I cannot believe how bad the bugs are and how they just do not fix them. Perfect example, if you didn't know, Rei's healing has been bugged for over 2 years now. Her heal orb spins around in a little circle sometimes and doesn't heal. They gave her a talent that really helps with it at least but 2 years is ridiculous and it's still going, like it can really affect her healing. And Lillith is def worth playing to 50, her golden skin is awesome and she's still a wicked character. It's fair they nerfed her but imo they nerfed her too much, she definitely feels worse and different with those additional cooldowns for her first talent but we'll manage. And the skins are not bad, this game is still 10x better than OW. At least I don't have to spend $30 on a skin that does nothing and die in 0.5 seconds everytime or listen to more of Blizzard's bs
You can't play a single game without 100 infuriating problems. Most aggressive 1 you will never complete a match because it's crashes for 0 reasons guarantee every game. And it's everyone being kicked. Only so many times you can put up with looking at the loading screen more than playing.
Wait a minute, Spit Shine and Jubilation augment either Po or Li for healing or damage... respectively. Do we finally know which is Po and which is Li?
Yeah, they are so hard up for money and developer time that they're literally deleting old characters and reusing their skins for "new characters". It's super insulting to the community, not to mention just straight up lazy.
How do you expect to gain players over overwatch when you refuse to deal with afk, trolls and throwers. It's every 8 out of 10 games and so painful to play.
I love that they actually started to solve bugs and revork unhealthy things for the game. But the devs have to balance revorks and changes with new content. Also maybe they should star to put some money into marketing the game to actually attract new players. Other than that, I am excited for this update.
@@Luxgen-mp5bb haha yes lol Don't tell me that you're actually braindead enough to think that permanent cauterize was a good decision. If you are, then you're just bad at the game and need to learn how to play properly.
Can't believe you actually went through with the Moji murder. What a tone-deaf team. You had people yelling at you not to do this on all your socials, and you know what Kryptek the community manager said? No one is upset by this rework. What an insult. They don't even care enough to look into their community to see how their update is being received, they just do the most surface-level bullshit PR for it and call it a "community leader job well done". This game has a history of pushing unpopular updates that kill off pieces of the community, and this is just another brick in the fucking wall from a development team that couldn't push a popular update if their life depended on it. The fact the community manager Kryptek confirmed the dev team knew that this update wouldn't be received well and they went through with it anyways is a complete insult. The people that run this game put minimal effort into their job to skate by and get a paycheck.
This is honestly the best chance you had at making an echo champion. Only reason it didnt work on omen was because jenos is rather obscure already. Your taking a flank with a hyper niche cult of people who have worked their ass off honing their skills and trying to get better at a character who has always struggled into the meta and throwing away their efforts. I havent seen the rework yet so i cant confirm this but as it stands right now, moji losing her identity isnt the play. An echo champion here would have been peak.
@@jermx487 Nobody wants Moji as a support unless they don't play her now. When your update pisses off everyone that currently plays the champion and is only exciting to people that don't care abot her, then that's a perfect candidate for a new champion rather than trashing an old one for a rework.
@@kiyuthakat4934 i dont care about the healing she does , i want them to nerf her dmg and the spirit link , its so annoying to play against esp if ur a flanker the spirit link ruins the game and does too much dmg when she plays focus talent , also the should nerf the DR its too much TOO much shes immortal
@@kiyuthakat4934 its a buff. U will now run max DR and max ult gen and just be an ult charger all game. its even more obnoxious than it was before. You never picked rei for healing output before
Honestly you should consider bringing back paladin's strike. The game was before its time and now every game company is trying to figure out a similar formula. Even the earned media of "dead game" turning on a server or two for a limited time like a Phoenix rising from its ashes would get so many people talking.
Could this better be a new champion like Omen? A character that resembles Moji but in a support role. I like Moji being a flank, she just need work, i really dont think changing her class is the move here tbh :/
@@moskiller6713 I think she's still bad from a character design standpoint. They can play with the numbers all they want, it won't change the fact that you HAVE to play Life Exchange for her to heal any significant amount. For instance, I can go "stun" Corvus, and still walk away with 120k healing easily and he doesn't even have any cards that reduce the cooldown of the heal. I think EM needs to take a step back and assess all the supports with fundamentally flawed healing in their kits like Jenos, Grohk, and Ying who rely on broken cards, talents, or numbers to be effective at healing.
@@Randomness662 Agreed with everything. EM needs to fix a lot of characters as everyone needs higher numbers in order to be playable because of the Item store. Or they need to play a specific talent/card. What's the point of having talents and cards if your just going to play the same broken stuff all game? I doubt they will ever fix Paladin as it would take a lot of time, money, and people to fix every character. Hopefully they will make Paladins 2 and fix the problems that the original Paladins had.
@@Randomness662 Moji has been a flank for a long time now, and she has a fair amount of players that like her. She definitely needed some work, but completely changing her class is not the move. She never got verticality, interesting flank talents, or improvement on her mobility.
Evil Mojo is deleting current Moji to re-use her skins for this dumb Support version. And yeah, everyone that plays her is equally as mad as you are right now -- it's a complete slap in the face from a development team that doesn't really care about their community.
@@Spiderman2099-v6m I'm sure MANY requests have been made for various champions over the years yet none of them have been acted on. This isn't because of what the players want or don't want.
furia is still a damager... she also use to be a really powerful healer... until they changed the way her healing beams worked.... now i cant stand her cause using the beams is just a friggen task and everyone's just horrible at placement with em... they worked so much better when they just automatically stopped on allies....
Nah just give us back Flank Moji completely, put Toot in her base kit so that you can replace Toot with the simili rework (her weapon can heal allies just like Grohk can). This is the easiest most simplest way to implement a "Support Moji". This rework is just plain garbage
they didng gave upo with kasumi after implementing like 3 reworks but they refue to do minor changes to make moji a more suitable flank. Literally just give her more dmg reduction and a double dash and its done.
No thanks. In the past I would've agreed with you. I used to enjoy the livestreams as well. But ever since this cringe weirdo took over the hosting, the less I have to sit through his yapping the better. This quick fire method is much preferred.
@@zhin8294 Yeah, back then all patch note streams were fun, best part of Paladins tbh. The devs were all fun and full of characters, even the cringy stuffs were fun too. But now the new devs just be yapping with monotone voice and bad mics the whole streams
I remember when Io was added with Bazaar and the beach skins. That was a good update stream, lovely new champion, great skins and a new map. @@itikuekuek
Moji and Furia skins look so ugly in-game. Red Ridin' Moji looks terrifying. They look so pretty and colorful in the illustrations at 1:41. What a shame.
Is this update gunna fix the literal disconnect every game. My Internet is banging it's not me it's you. How can I enjoy your game if I'm in constant fear of not finishing a match.
we STILL have MASSIVE problems on european servers. it just sends you back to the main menu every now and then NO MATTER WHEN! in game, in champion selection etc. FIX THAT before revealing a dumb skin for moji.
All the Moji mains wanted a buff for her for six years in a row. Instead they ignore her until they delete her to reuse her skins for this dumb support version.
The only change I wanted for Moji is for her to blink in her skins... Also as soon as I opened the game the Bomb King skin was T-posing in the menu... With the screen overlay misplaced on the left and sometimes the login resets even if I logged in before the reset. Do you need help Evil Mojo?
it's so funny seeing the NA playerbase dislike that Moji rework lol when the subreddit folks that have consistently given terrible feedback after terrible feedback agree that something is poorly thought out, that should tell you you've messed up big time
