DeWALT vs Bosch Routers - Which Woodworking Tool is Best?

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0:00 Best Woodworking Router
0:14 Bosch vs DeWALT Router Features
2:22 Bosch vs DeWALT Fixed Bases
5:07 Plunge Base Differences
8:22 Performance Differences
9:15 Bit Change and Collet Differences
9:49 Which Router is the Best?
10:38 Best Router for a Router Table
11:10 This Makes Trim Routers Better

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@731Woodworks 11 месяцев назад

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@Barovian20 11 месяцев назад

Fun fact with DeWalt. When you buy their big DW618B3 router kit with the case and it doesn't include the 1/2" collet, if you contact support for a replacement, they'll send you another brand new complete router kit. When that one arrives and you open it to discover that it too doesn't not include the 1/2" collet and again contact support and they send you a third complete new router kit missing the 1/2" collet, you realize you'll just have to buy one using the money you made from selling two free router kits.

@Christopher._M 2 месяца назад

Hahaha

@carpentryfirst3048 Месяц назад

And that's why my drills cost so damn much. Thank you, 😊

@GoSlowToGoFastOG 18 дней назад

1/4 is inside the 1/2. Just push it out.

@Barovian20 18 дней назад

@@GoSlowToGoFastOG I specifically said that the 1/2" collet was not included in the kit. I wasn't concerned with the 1/4" collet, with was included in the kit.

@rpcrocker1 11 месяцев назад

I have three Bosch routers. One in the table, one with both bases and the CE125 palm router. They perform very well!

@rauljr9869 11 месяцев назад

Great video going through all the pros and cons between, always appreciate you stating "it's your personal preference". Keep them coming!

@TheHiredgoon0 8 месяцев назад

So glad you touched on which you prefer to mount on a router table. Most reviews forget that part!

@sonnygouge894 11 месяцев назад

This is the perfect comparison of probably 2 of the more contested router combos at this price point. Great video! I'm going with the Bosch kit!

@bretts4343 9 месяцев назад

I got the DeWalt with the 3-base kit. Mine includes a D-handle base and I love it! It's got a trigger for power that's so much easier than the toggle switch on the motor. It also comes with a hard plastic storage case for the motor and all 3 bases plus tools and accessories. The DeWalt also comes with a dust collection attachment for the fixed & D-handle bases. I'm quite happy with mine, but the Bosch would probably have worked just as well.

@timothysprinkle3052 11 месяцев назад

I enjoyed my Bosch trim router so I bought the Bosch plunge router when it was on sale last year. So far I like the bump in power for dado cutting. I really haven't used the plunge base yet, but I appreciate the heads up on the 1/8 increment settings because that will help with some wood/ plywood types. I think I have been setting the bit height/depth the hard way with a ruler, so I think I will start using the bars in the future. The only issue I have is with the fine adjustment bottoming out, but frankly that was my fault for not setting the gross adjustment closer to the actual depth. I am happy with the router. I would like to know more about your straight edge you are using though.

@douglasanderson7260 11 месяцев назад

Good video, fair comparison. I have both of these as well, though I do not have the plunge base for the Bosch. I got the Bosch for my router table. I like the Dewalts' ability to hook up dust collection. I think that is an important feature. Though it is not perfect, it does allow me to see what I am cutting through the cut. When there is no dust collector, there is so much dust .5 seconds into the cut that it is anyone's guess. Though with the lift on a table, I think Bosch has a bit of an advantage. Though, to be honest, my goto is my little trim touter with the plunge base. No cords needed, I have a duct collector adapter for it, and the plunge base can take a guide bushing.

@logicnetpro 10 месяцев назад

Great comparison presentation without the fluff, which I appreciate!

@9995bkohl 11 месяцев назад

Have both. Dewalt bearing locked up in my router table. Had a small fire. Warrenty fix. It now is in the fixed base and rarely used. Bought another Bosch for the table. Prefer 2 wrenches and i think its quieter. Love the Bosch plunge, the fence and guide bushings

@garymiller5937 11 месяцев назад

Great video Matt! Thanks 👍 for the comparison. 😊😊

@jimfeaster4837 11 месяцев назад

Keep your videos going I enjoy a lot!

@thomasandrews7783 11 месяцев назад

I’ve got two of the Bosch and I like the plunge base for the flat surface on the base for using with an edge guide.

@sbauer051 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the breakdown. I picked up the Dewalt and I absolutely love it.

@Griffinwoodworks 11 месяцев назад

I chose the Bosch 1617, solely because it was on sale at the time. I’ve used both and you can’t go wrong with either. I’m like you with the lights at 45 years old lol. These 2 are gold standards in the woodworking world, there’s no reason a led can’t be put in instead of my janky flex light I’ve got stuck on mine. 😂

@monteglover4133 11 месяцев назад

One of the Bosh routers has a power switch on the handle of the plunge base which is extremely nice for controlling the tool. The large variable speed, Milwaukee corded router with body grip is one to look into it’s my favorite, unfortunately it got lost in our move.

@glennm449 11 месяцев назад

About time you reviewed some Bosch tools! The 12v Bosch trim router is awesome and would make a great review!

@ancienttom97 11 месяцев назад

My Bosch router looks to be the same model as that one. Mine has a push pin to lock the arbor for changing the bits. To lock the arbor with a push pin, you would have to reach under the table, that is if the pin was accessible at all in the router table, to change out a bit. With a 2 wrench configuration for the collet, it makes it easy to access with both wrenches to change out your bits from the top of the table. In short, I now have to go out and buy another router for mounting when I build my router table. It is nice to know, though, that they have changed the collet locking mechanism on this model of Bosch. Thanks for pointing out that DeWalt has changed over to a pin locking mechanism.

@aarontfoulkes 5 месяцев назад

Excellent comparison... I'm a Bosch fan and I think I will go with the Bosch kit. Thanks so much for the vid.

@melissaburns5240 11 месяцев назад

You failed to mention that the Bosch fixed base can be micro adjusted from the top when used with a standard router table plate. You just need to drill one extra hole and use an Allen wrench. No need for an overpriced router lift, especially if you make you table so that you can easily access the router from the front.

@woodoctor 11 месяцев назад

I was going to mention the same thing 👍 and if you use that Bosch router in a Bosch router table they have the hole drilled already for the above table adjustment

@williamstead6354 11 месяцев назад

Triton's routers can also be adjusted from the top. Have one in my router table, works great.

@aaronblackford981 11 месяцев назад

I was ready to mention that as well. That was the number one reason I ended up with the full Bosch kit.

@paratus04 11 месяцев назад

Yup. Kreg sells a router table plate specifically for the Bosch that already has the hole cut out for the micro adjust on the fixed base and the Bosch comes with an extra long T handle Allen wrench meant to interface with it through the router plate. If you’ve got a 3D printer there’s also several vacuum hose attachments on Thingiverse you can print to make mounting dust collection easier when used in a router table.

@borismakesart 10 месяцев назад

I heard that you can only adjust it above the table a small amount using the micro adjustment feature, no?

@kamilegier4730 11 месяцев назад

I have two DeWalt 2 1/4 hp routers, each came with a hard plastic case with storage for bits, each came with a wrench, fixed and plunge bases with base plates for small and larger bits, each have collets for 1/2” and 1/4”

@The-Handsome-Devil 10 месяцев назад

Great video once again, I purchased the DeWalt and I am very satisfied with it

@am2dan 11 месяцев назад

I attached the Bosch fixed base to a piece of 1/4" aluminum plate, and together they act as the lift for my router table. Of course I cut a hole for the router bit to come through the plate, and I positioned a hole for a hex wrench to operate the micro-adjust, which has plenty of travel for the job. The fixed base stays in the router table, and I can easily pop the router out of that and into the plunge base for hand-held work.

@dean314videos9 4 месяца назад

I love this video… it made me choose the Milwaukee 1/2” one. No I’m not a fan… it became my first… but I watched your other video about it and it help me decide. I am new to woodworking, I’m a vet, and I’m building my little shop to make picture frames and canvas paintings. Thanks for the videos and excellent advice on them.

@davegravel3740 11 месяцев назад

I bought a refurbished Bosch router with both fixed and plunge bases. Acme Tools had a good deal. Love the router. Love that the wrenches aren't just cheap stamped steel and actually much better quality wrenches. The hard case is a nice addition as it has spots for most accessories. Really don't think you could go wrong with either brand. I bought the dewalt cordless router as I want to learn hand carving with a router. Eric rhoten videos #530 and #588 shows how to install small fairy lights on a trim router but no reason it couldn't work on a full size router.

@warrensmith2902 11 месяцев назад

I've had both of those routers. But you'll have to pull my Porter Cable 890 from my cold dead hands. The built in dust collection on the plunge base is on par with the Festool routers. Plus I have it adapted to use the LR32 router base so I can do 32mm hole spacing.

@terrydanks 6 месяцев назад

@04:52. Just received the Dewalt DW618 combo. It came in a large plastic case that is contoured for both bases and various, but non-included, accessories. Very similar to the case with the Bosch. No "canvas bag."

@kentdavison2576 11 месяцев назад

I ended up choosing the Skil router. It is 2.5 hp vs 2.25hp and has slow start up and digital screen for speed adjustment. It has worked great for me. May want to add this router to this comparison.

@p24t 11 месяцев назад

I went with the Bosch with just the fixed base for two main reasons. First, it was on sale. Second, I already had the Bosch kit with the plunge base, but that 1617 was a pain to get into my router lift and I had no desire to try and remove/reinstall it.

@sinsofvorador 11 месяцев назад

I have that router and the mr23evs. I keep the 1617 in the router table, and I use the mr23 for most other stuff. I love the trigger style power switch of the mr23 vs the 1617. Plus, there feels like way more power to the mr23. But to each there own

@cyrnus 11 месяцев назад

Love my Bosch all the way around with one exception. The micro adjust on the plunge base will adjust itself with the vibration of the motor. So it is undependable. Minor issue though and you can easily make adjustments with feeler guages and moving the stop

@jv17251 11 месяцев назад

I have a few porter cable 690s with different profiles. I purchased a bosch just for the plunging. I was surprised how cool it runs, used it for hrs didnt get hot or even warm. It sucks in air from the top motor to cool it down. 690s are work horses but those suckers get hot. I will say this it is a bit tall that might be harder to keep balance running on a narrow work piece.

@philshock3805 11 месяцев назад

Came to mention that the fixed base for the Bosch can be adjusted from the top if mounted in a router table and used somewhat as a poor man's router lift but see others have beat me to it. Something else worth noting about using the 1617 in a router table is that it's not uncommon for the switch to become inoperable due to dust lodging in the electronics and preventing contact. It's an easy remedy to pull the top cap off (long torx req), and clear the debris, but I've had to do it twice in 6-7 years. Another thing I don't like about the Bosch is the need for the adapter to use template bushings. Other than those minor issues ... it's been a workhorse.

@kevinroberts9814 11 месяцев назад

Both are fine routers, in my opinion. I recently chose the Bosch over the DeWalt based solely on the two-wrench bit changing design. For me, it's actually much easier to tighten/loosen with two wrenches. With one wrench you still have to hold the router body somehow. Also, I have an older Bosch with the button mechanism and it has broken twice over time.

@AlienLeader4 11 месяцев назад

Very nice and in-depth look at both routers. I am a Dewalt fan so I would go with Mustard. Keep up the great work. 👽

@chipperkeithmgb 11 месяцев назад

Glad I’ve still got my two Porter cable 890 from Oxford England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

@MikeStJohn-du5ue 11 месяцев назад

I always enjoy your videos, thanks for the content. I would go with the Dewalt because it will meet my needs.

@jimrosson6702 11 месяцев назад

Great video Matt

@thenext9537 11 месяцев назад

I have the Bosch with plunge base and also guide. However, I did go with the Dewalt for the palm router. I'm not one of these one brand for everything, I go where things work. Team yellow mostly, only because my planer, tablesaw, drills and palm router are from them. I have Bosch plunge router, hammer drill (bulldog) and, a router bit set, guides, etc. Either one is great, I've used the Dewalt many times.

@affliction1979 11 месяцев назад

I prefer the Bosch, just because we use both at work, we purchased 3 of each about 3 years ago, all 3 Bosch routers are still running, but only 1 of the Dewalts are still running. Bosch seems to have the stronger motor.

@LYTOMIZE_Woodshop 11 месяцев назад

I really need to get around to using more than a trim router and my router table. For some reason I've shied away from using the plunge/fixed base routers even though I now have three (inherited). I'll make that a fall goal!

@ruelsmith 11 месяцев назад

The Dewalt plunge base has built-in dust collection that sucks it in on the base. Dust collection is a separate purchase for the Bosch. Dewalt can use standard bushings, where Bosch requires proprietary bushings. The Dewalt can be had with a molded case, as well.

@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio 7 месяцев назад

I picked up the Dewalt DW618 with the 3 base kit... but ending up returning it. I don't know if my unit was defective, but there was a few things that feel feel right. For starters, the variable speed adjustment. Felt like if was stuck there and was almost impossible to adjust using one finger without using something to help, not smooth at all. The other thing was the adjustment ring/wheel. For one, it wasn't easy to adjust in either direction, felt dry gears rubbing, no smooth frictionless turn here folks! Almost like the weight of the motor caused it to jam up on itself. For it to "slide" properly, I had to use my free hand and lift up the top of the motor to release the downward pressure and then adjust. I ordered up the DW611PK instead... waiting on it to arrive. A little smaller, more in line with what I might need it for at the moment, and this is my first router.

@Jimc4007 11 месяцев назад

I went with the Dewalt for 2 reasons, watching Matt for the last 3-4 years using his and I have a lot of yellow/black in my shop. I've somehow managed to turn into a bit of a Dewalt fanboy it seems, even though I have several brands of other tools as well.

@stlwoodworking 11 месяцев назад

Like Matt I also have the Bosch in my router table with the jessem lift. Works great

@stlwoodworking 11 месяцев назад

@@cindyhammack68 I actually have that exact same setup. The only thing I added was the dust right box underneath the table for dust collection. I use a small pad to move anything under 6 in Long through the table because I like my fingers and want to keep them lol

@ancienttom97 11 месяцев назад

make sure your Bosch has the 2 wrench locking mechanism on the arbor and not the pin lock.@@cindyhammack68

@WoodworkerDan 8 месяцев назад

I bought a router with rubber handles and they felt very comfortable at first, but over time the rubber turned sticky. I was able to solve the problem by turning hew handles out of wood. A few weeks ago I bought a new router kit, and I went with the Bosch because I wanted wooden handles. Also, I strongly prefer the carrying case for the Bosch.

@hackfabrication139 11 месяцев назад

I own five Bosch routers: 2 1617's (one for my JessUm table, one with plunge), both Colts (with are surprisingly powerful - The 1.25hp is attached to my MilesCraft circle cutting jig, the 1hp is my 'grab it' for quick roundovers and chamfers. Only complaint is the OEM base on the 1hp), and the 12v trim router. Yeah, I've got a Bosch problem. That 2.3hp model keeps pleading, "take me home"....

@JimDoubleYa 4 месяца назад

Very helpful! Thank you! Have you tried the Metabo-HPT 36v full size plunge router?

@scootermcduder5479 11 месяцев назад

Oh wow! I was literally just thinking about these two routers yesterday and was planning to mention that you should do a comparison since I saw in another video that you owned them both.

@anthonym6939 11 месяцев назад

Great review. For your many (I am guessing) European subscribers, do you know what the equivalent model numbers would be - cannot find either one available here?

@KenCharlesTheGreat 11 месяцев назад

I have both, I like the way the Dewalt fixed base adjusts with a collar. I have found all Bosch routers are too fiddly to adjust and a pain to insert into their bases, aside from that they are decent . My Bosch 1617 is going in a router lift, I did have it in a router plate and used its "above the table " adjustment capabilities but wasn't impressed.

@MrTooTechnical 11 месяцев назад

Great vid. I would chose the Bosch 1619evs.

@SaintFredrocks 11 месяцев назад

For $60 more I got the Bosch MR23EVSK, and I could not be happier. It has a trigger in the handle of both bases to turn it on and off, LED work lights, the fixed base has the same kind of grips as the plunge base, it is 15 amps with 2.3 maximum horsepower, and the cord swivels in the base. I LOVE this router. Loads of power and a pleasure to use. You need to try this one out.

@rafaeltb 11 месяцев назад

Thanks a lot for the comment. I just got the Dewalt 12 amp combo, googled the Bosch 15 amp combo you mentioned and purchased after seeing the video with all the features included for just a little more money; I'll be returning the Dewalt now.

@gaylehiner9511 9 месяцев назад

Can you send link, please, thanks.

@FMunixxx 2 месяца назад

Unfortunately, the trigger in the handle means the MR23EVSK can't be operated in a router table.

@SaintFredrocks 2 месяца назад

@@FMunixxx it can be used in a router table with the fixed base. It includes a wrench to adjust it from above with the kit. I have another router in my table, so I don't use it in a table myself.

@SaintFredrocks 2 месяца назад

@@gaylehiner9511 I tried to comment with a link a few months ago, and YT said I was trying to spam you, and wouldn't let me post for a while. I am here again by chance so if you are still interest go to 1 Top Tools. It is still at $309 and I paid no shipping or taxes. They also have the refurbished kit for less, but I have always had bad luck with refurbished stuff myself, so I bought new.

@aladdin4d 11 месяцев назад

One thing you didn't mention, and may not have even noticed, is the fixed base on newer Bosch 1617's has an above the table adjustment feature for a poor man's lift. I have two 1617's. My old one, which is about 15 years old and still going strong, doesn't have it. My new one, which I bought because of your heads up on an Amazon deal, does.

@borismakesart 10 месяцев назад

I heard that there is a limit to how far you can adjust it above the table using the micro adjustment feature, no?

@aladdin4d 10 месяцев назад

@@borismakesart It's possible but I don't know. I've never actually used that feature. I already had a router lift by the time I bought my second 1617.

@user-cb3hs3du4m 11 месяцев назад

I recently started using the DeWalt, and was very pleased with how smooth and comfortable it was. But then the brushes went out in the middle of a project... Looking around my shop, this wasn't the first DeWalt tool to suffer brush or motor failure while doing simple, mundane tasks, but the most I've had to repair on any of my Bosch tools was a power cord on a worm drive saw. So my vote for the BEST would go to Bosch simply for longevity.

@danger1240 11 месяцев назад

Yeah DeWalt is not what it once was. They are worse than Ryobi these days.

@floydhare4288 11 месяцев назад

I am a Dewalt Guy. My trim routers are cordless Dewalt, Milwaukee. I recently Bought a Craftsman and a Flex Router. I use these in My sign making. All of them have features Ilike. My Corded router is a dewalt

@supergimp2000 11 месяцев назад

I’ve got both and both are great tools. One convenient thing about the Bosch is that you can mount the fixed base under a table and there is a hex socket that allows you to adjust the bit height from the top with an Allen key. Before I got a proper router lift my 1617 was mounted in a simple bare router plate set into my bench top. You just need to drill a hole in your router plate aligning with the adjustment hex screw in the base and then you can tweak the cutter height from the top of the table. An economical solution if you buy the kit with both bases. Also on the DeWalt plunge base, the cap on top of the accordion tube pops off and hooks up to a shop vac for dust collection. Not the greatest, but it’s something.

@howiewhatever1072 11 месяцев назад

Correct me if I’m wrong, but it looks like the Dewalt plunge base allows you to hook up a shop vac for dust collection. My PC has that. It doesn’t get all the dust, but it does get most. It’s a nice feature.

@redtop03 11 месяцев назад

I have the bosch 1617 in a table, and the 20v Dewalt trim router, I'm torn on whether to get that DeWalt with plunge base or another Bosch 1617 with plunge base, I love both brands LOL

@georgewilmore7599 11 месяцев назад

I have 3 Bosch 1617 2 in tables one freehand, 2 porter cable one plunge and one freehand, 1 skill combination plunge and freehand and a Bosch colt. I wouldn’t throw any of them out. Did I mention I hate changing bits.

@davidcarvalho9904 11 месяцев назад

tyvm for the info. I own the dewalt 20vbecause of batteries.for air bostich and metabo. but on my dewalt miter i do own a ryobi stand because of price

@JohnMansfield-ky8if 4 месяца назад

Bosch 1617 is the clear winner. Although I love Dewalt tools, I bought the Dewalt 3 base kit when I first started back in 2008 and had to glue a part back onto the router within the first hour of use (didn't inspire confidence). The motor always had interruptions in the voltage. It vibrated a lot too. I now have 3 Bosch 1617 kits. Why? Ultra smooth. Long lasting. Wood handles. Very stable and easy to use. Best plunge base on the market. Did I mention ultra smooth. Plunge base lock is spectacular. Chip guard is spectacular. There's a reason why you'll see the pros using this one.

@FixerInCuba Месяц назад

Thanks for the video. I'm planning on buying one for the table, plunge, and fixed base. It seems to me I can use the plunge base as a fixed base as well. Is there a real downside to doing this? Bosch has a kit that comes with a table.

@richpeggyfranks490 11 месяцев назад

I rarely comment, but I felt like I needed to chime in with a "double thumbs-up". I own both of these routers and agree with you on every point. I usually go to the Bosch. There is a feeling of quality in the Bosch that the Dewalt doesn't have. The Dewalt has never let me down, but for some reason I like the feel of the Bosch better. I keep both routers on their plunge bases. Thanks for another fun, educational video.

@731Woodworks 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing!

@jeffersonnaylor1019 10 месяцев назад

Have you considered testing and adding the Bosch track saw(s) to your comparisons?

@eliezerl05 11 месяцев назад

There is a version of the Dewalt router that has a plastic case, it even has a place in the case to store an edge guide along with bits and collets.

@ronswoodshack 11 месяцев назад

Great review Mighty Matt

@731Woodworks 11 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@danielcox9202 8 месяцев назад

I'm only commenting because I have seen you do this several times. But when using a guide such as that from a track saw, never use the flat side against the guide. it is designed so if you keep the curved side against the guide your depth doesn't change with small variations. If the flat side tends to move to one edge, you have destroyed that nice line you have with the edge guide.

@vernsteinbrecker3759 11 месяцев назад

I ended up buying the Bosch last month. I have a cheaper fixed speed router, that was all that was available out here when I needed a router. The speed was 25000 and I bought a spiral flush trim bit 1/4”. On the third cut it broke into many pieces, when I talked to the supplier they told me the max speed is 18000. I never gave it a thought about router speeds before. Lesson learned

@bigredracingdog466 8 месяцев назад

2:38 Agreed. I dislike round handles on any router. They make the router feel 'tippy' when you're carrying it, and using it with just a bearing bit with less than half the base on the workpiece feels sketchy. The vertical grips on the plunge bases are much better.

@kwilliams2239 11 месяцев назад

I'm in the Bosch camp and DeWalt is near the bottom of my list but you did a really good job with this review and I agree with your assessment of both. That said, I like the 'D' handle of the old standby PC690 for a fixed base. I use it for heavy use (carpentry). It operates more like a circular saw. 😁 I have a PC7518 in my router table, which was the standby for router tables for many years. I bought it as a motor-only (no base). I was thinking that this would be a cheaper way to go but it appears this doesn't save anything, now. One trick you missed on the plunge bases is to slide a setup block between the depth stop and the depth cylinder to get a very, very, accurate depth. Plunge the router down to touch the surface, lock it in place. Loosen the depth stop, put the setup block between the stop bar and the cylinder, and lock the depth stop. The depth is set to exactly the same as the setup block.

@markhinds1361 8 месяцев назад

Bosch for me anyway. Thanks for the comparison video. Be blessed brother.

@cbruced24 11 месяцев назад

I definitely like the Bosch router system all the way around I'm not feeling like there's that big of a need on a fixed base

@stevenrichardson6172 11 месяцев назад

personally for me the decider was the dust collection on the dewalt plunge base... That to me made the deal vs the bosch that didn't have dust collection built in.

@michaelclark7602 9 месяцев назад

I sanded my wooden handles and dipped them in liquid rubber worked great for me

@georgiewanders 11 месяцев назад

I'm a sucker for DeWalt's yellow but the two wrench thing on the Bosch is unbeatable. I'm saving to buy the DeWalt obviously

@jcj6892 24 дня назад

FYI: The Dewalt DW618PKB (in the video) appears to be the exact same as DW618PK which is about $21 less than the “newer” PKB model and comes with a hard case as opposed to a canvas case. You can still order it online from Home Depot.

@matthewstrickland5788 7 месяцев назад

I’m went with the Bosch , mainly for router table

@FixItFrench 11 месяцев назад

You made a lot of good points. I think these are two of the best routers on the market. I love my Bosch router, but I think the Dewalt has a few better features. If you have either of these routers, you will be a happy woodworker 👍🏼

@Bremovations 11 месяцев назад

I went with the Skil vs either of these at the time. The LED was a plus and you're absolutely right about not having them on the more expensive brands. If your entry market competitor can give you it at their price point, there's no reason the big names can't.

@CarrollNick94 11 месяцев назад

Me too! The skil is close to half the price, and it certainly isn't half the router.

@731Woodworks 11 месяцев назад

Agreed. I reviewed the Skil a month or so back. It’s a great deal for the price.

@coatknight 11 месяцев назад

@@731Woodworksgot it based of your review but it hasn't worked very well. Struggled to do what my handheld Ryobi was doing. Died after a week. Just plain died. Maybe I got a lemon.

@CowsGoM3ow 6 месяцев назад

@@coatknight Thats what 30/90 day returns and warranties are for.

@borismakesart 10 месяцев назад

I went with the Dewalt because it has a nice built in dust collection system in the plunge base

@dadzmatt 11 месяцев назад

4:18 been following you for a number of years and I like your channel,,, however I would like to see you do a project sometime… keep up the good work

@chrisd3648 11 месяцев назад

I had the Dewalt in my router table and a wood chip fell into the air holes by the bit and destroyed all the fan blades inside and caused the router to overheat and die. So I switched to Bosch. Would not recommend the Dewalt for router tables because of this design flaw. Bosch design greatly reduces this risk.

@petesoebekti2022 11 месяцев назад

i prefer to buy plunge base/fixed base combo kits with both quarter inch and half inch shank collets and spindle locks included do not use collet reducers because they don't hold the router bit that well 😀

@BradSnyderAltendorf 11 месяцев назад

I think the absolute best router is the one i got for free! Can't beat that price point and it helps that it's a triton!

@amineiratni6516 4 месяца назад

Brilliant comparison, I've been looking to buy one of these two but I'm struggling to find their counterparts in Europe. Anyone would know what's the name of the 240v version of these two? (Bosch 1617 and Dewalt DW618)

@bobkrol5939 11 месяцев назад

I have the Bosch 1617EVSPK and really like it except for a couple things. 1. Fixed base - if you micro-adjust the height and try to get little above the end of travel - the C-ring pops out of the groove and no more micro-adjust. 2. I do NOT like the twist function to get the router out of the fixed base - hard to align, takes too much time with little visibility. 3. The plunge base works good, but I wish the base was ROUND instead of having the flat - if you rotate the router while cutting a Dado or a groove, it will screw up the cut. Which leads to 4. I hold the router backwards if I'm holding the router against a guide (due to the flat on the base) and the nice handles feel really awkward! And lastly - 5. That 3-prong plug is a safety device - without it there is the "possibility" that you could get a shock in there were an electrical short or fault.

@FMunixxx 2 месяца назад

Double insulated tools don't require grounding pins. In general, I'd rather have a double insulated tool that isn't going to arc if it touches a live wire.

@luciflash 11 месяцев назад

Having had two Bosch routers, I would definitely chose the Makita! The build quality and features are a step above.

@robertpenoyer9998 11 месяцев назад

If the Bosch 1617EVS's fixed base is designed like the Bosch MRF23EVS's fixed base (which I own), then there is a major design flaw. The base is designed to support the router motor when the router is used in the standard way, call it right-side-up. But when the base is mounted in a router table, the base and router motor are upside-down. The entire weight of the router motor is supported by a single snap ring when the base and motor are upside down. The snap ring is not strong enough to stay in its groove and hold the weight of the motor firmly and reliably. It can fail and the motor can drop. Mine did, even after I replaced the shaft and snap ring. I had to remove the snap ring and replace it with a homemade modification to solve the problem.

@gregtrimble7113 11 месяцев назад

How does the ridged router compare ? Love the lifetime warranty

@Madcow-454 11 месяцев назад

I have the Craftsman Professional made by Bosch, it's over 10 years old.

@jrey126 11 месяцев назад

Dealt has a track attachment, awesome

@frijoli9579 11 месяцев назад

Interesting. My Dewault came with a hard case, but no bit storage.

@cpowerdesign 9 месяцев назад

I've had a Ryobi for years now, but that's only because at the time I could only afford that one. I needed a better router for a project I'm working on, so I went today and bought the Bosch from Lowe's. The biggest thing I wanted it for is the plunge routing base. I've only ever used a fixed base router. I'll probably try to locate a 1/2" collet for the Ryobi and use it in a router table. I've had problems with the collets not getting tight enough and the bit backs off and ruins what I'm working on. I'm hoping the Bosch doesn't have this problem.

@cpowerdesign 9 месяцев назад

Well thr ryobi router doesn't have a changeable collet. It's a fixed collet on the end of the shaft.

@mikesionu 11 месяцев назад

I agree, LEDs are so simple to add. However the pragmatist part of me knows that that change would take a few years to percolate through the supply.

@MrMcstaysandeat 11 месяцев назад

I really like the Bosch routers. I have two of the d handle versions of the 1617 router, which sadly they don’t make no more. I like the fine adjustments on the Bosch a lot better than the twist rings

@davidndahura7437 11 месяцев назад

Both are good routers reason i can go with bosch its more convenient on market for consumption.

@FareedHameed 11 месяцев назад

how do the dust collection compare between both?

@KnotboredWoodworking 11 месяцев назад

Always interesting video but this time the 2 older craftsman routers with a fixed and plunge base and of course the other in a smaller craftman table. The free choice wins this time😂