bmi is body mass index and they specifically said you can't just take simple math and call it fact. They have other ways of measuring fats and it showed that these seemingly "skinny" people were composed of a lot of fat. So body fat percentage IS a concern. You watched the first 2 minutes and concluded the video.
Yes, that's what my original comment was meant to highlight. That Indian doctor had a BMI of 23, but was 34% body fat. That's an extreme example, but generally, Indians carry more proportional body fat for a given body weight.
@Christina Reynolds That is an unkind and unhelpful reply. The narrator was wrong and this type of nonchalance is the kind of thing that leads the public to believe and act upon sheer nonsense. Precision is important in science.
The comments section's like: "Oh, westernization, it's the one giving them diabetes, it's the carbs, blah blah blah!!!" Did ANYONE pay attention to the documentary at all?!
Wow, this is really interesting. I was a pretty lightweight baby too (slight over 2.5 kg) and my mother was probably malnourished (she had nothing to eat and didn't gain any weight throughout her pregnancy, stayed at around 40 kg). My parents tried to make up ensure I had good nutrition after I was born, but after puberty I was diagnosed with PCOS, and my fasting glucose tests placed me in the pre-diabetic range. My doctor has also told me, anecdotally, that she has noticed most of her patients with PCOS are from China, like me. I wouldn't be surprised if it's related to the prenatal nutrient deficiencies that they talked about in this video.
如意 PCOS runs in my family. My grandmother, though not diagnosed had it, I have it and the one child I did have died at birth when I was 25 1/2 weeks pregnant. After my son died I was unable to get pregnant even after surgery and fertility treatments. My eldest niece has and was unable to have children. One of her sisters has it but was diagnosed at 14 and had surgery and was closely monitored and I’m happy to say she has 3 children.
Replace white rice with brown rice, eliminate sugar, exercise hard if you don't already and you'll be a different person. You're slim. You can make the transition far more easily. In China white rice is the problem (and processed foods). In western nations its usually white bread and pasta. Its hilarious that the people in this ridiculous video are surprised they are diabetic. They're hugely overweight, largely inactive and eat garbage. A 3 year old could diagnose them from a block away. When are people going to realize its our own fork that determines our life span? If you cannot sprint fast you are out of shape. So get in shape. Obese people need to use aquatic exercises because its easy on the joints or you can job in place for short periods with your hand on rails to support your weight. Then fast walking, slow jogging allowing adequate recovery periods (1-2 days for most). And just keep at it. Exercise BEFORE eating your first meal. Makes a world of difference.
Stop snacking and only eat three meals a day. Everytime you eat or drink liquids with calories, you are raising your insulin levels because glucose goes up. Insulin resistance is the cause, elevated glucose is a symptom of the problem. Like Robert Lusig says "protect the liver, feed the gut" don't buy carbohydrate foods in a box or bag!
Same here from Bolivia. The orphanage I was at thought I was overweight as a baby but my Americans mom thought I was too skinny. I was by no means starving but definitely could use a few pounds. I had terrible growing pains as soon as I came to the us and had to go on pediasure to help catch up to the other kids. I was also lactose intolerant which I didn’t find out till later in life. When I hit puberty I had extremely heavy periods and they were REGULAR even at 10. I was later diagnosed at 20 with endometriosis after my period pains became unbearable with over the counter medication and sent me to the emergency room thinking I had burst an appendix or something. I did some research and apparently the elevation I was born at caused some genetic abnormalities in the population that lived there in the Alti Plano. It’s extremely high altitude. I’m only 5’2” as an adult and that’s considered taller for my nationality the shortness is due to higher atmospheric pressure and less nutrients. In peoples living in places of high altitude there is a predisposition to pre diabetes due to the body wanting more sugar in the blood to bind with the hemoglobin to carry more oxygen through the blood stream. Weird how the body adapts to certain things
I was slightly smaller at 2.04 kg. I was my mom's smallest but none of her babies we over 2.7 kg. I know she was malnourished. My parents were very poor and grew up extremely poor (depression era kids). All of us girls ended up diabetic (my older sister died at 45 from diabetes). I am working extremely hard to get mine under control through diet and exercise. I want to come off the last of my diabetes medication and just manage it with diet and exercise.
As a woman of South Asian descent, Ive learned so much from this. My grandmother is diabetic; my mother is also diabetic, my aunt has high blood sugar; my other aunt is also insulin resistant. So naturally, i inherited the awful genes which triggered my insulin resistance. I was Pre diabetic and pre obese in late 2018. Thats when i hit rock bottom in my life. I didnt make a significant change to my eating habbits until middle of 2019. Since then, I have lose 30 lbs with intermittent fasting. ( fast 20-22 hours and eat for 2-4 hours). This helped to reverse my insulin resistance as constant feeding was not spiking my insulin. I am back to normal weight and blood glucose levels.
Wow congratz on reversal I had a similar story of my family having diabetes history and myself getting prediabetes, before it reversed after diet changes
@@north6417 same for me. Which proves that having bad genes is not a death sentence when it comes to insulin resistance. We can do something to control it and reverse it. I found it very comforting.
I am proof that diabetes can be changed by lowering the Bodies BMI is the key type1 runs in my family I was diagnosed type 2 when I weighed 452lbs now I weigh 196lbs and my bmi is currently at 22.3% and im running a 10k race this sunday burning calories is very important along with understanding all carbs arent bad Fiber,protein,sugars,are all carbohydrates can be converted into glucose by the body except FIBER. fiber is your friend and it preventssugar/ insulin spikes #AppleCiderVinegar
You also have to make sure that the B12 is being absorbed. I just found out I have antibodies that prevent absorption by attacking my stomach lining - autoimmune disease. I was always tired - finally I got an astute doctor to test me.
Here in Amazon we have the same problem. I guess it would be interesting to visit this Indian center of Diabetes and learn something, after I finish med School
@@cristinamenezes448 Not sure but its tragic when western processed food invades an area. It just demolishes health from the aged to the young. So sad to see. In one generation the results are staggering. Then the bad eating habits of the parents are passed on to the children and it continues. Its simply abnormal to have a protruding belly.
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Except even the skinny ones that are south Asians have this too. Been underweight and never eat many carbs and I'm still prediabetic. Let's thank the 31 British famines that made us used to starving so all food makes us unhealthier
It really annoys me when they call it a western diet. It is not traditional Spanish, Italian or Danish food for example, it's a new invented food group. It is not a traditional western diet.
Strictly speaking pizzas, pastries, french fries, etc. are all european, i.e. western, food stuffs. However, I routinely observe that traditional Europeans did not eat those as their staple diet, but as delicacies. However, Americans are perhaps the first people in the western world to make it part of their staple. I literally see people eating that everyday. But I think you are making a fair point. It would be more correct to call it the modern American diet.
obviously the genetic research this scientist is doing is worthless because you just solved India's diabetes problem by telling people to just fucking walk more! thanks so much you're a lifesaver
Impressive and admirable how such a rustic and unsophisticated hospital and research group in india found so many complex and useful information... Dayumm
@@judaspreistvlct Unfortunately, that is a correlation that proves nothing. In that same time period, bottled water and so-called organic foods have also become much more common.
@@judaspreistvlct The Problem always was and always will be FAT, especially processed Meat. Milk is also as Bad as Meat, basically anything from Animals, Contain Fats, that weren't made for Humans
@@judaspreistvlct I don't know if u had a Low Carb diet, but there are many common mistakes. First of Sugar or Carbs don't make you fat, unlesd you consume them in combination with alot of Fats ( animals fats/proteins are even worse) And therfore you can't blame them, they just trigger an high insulin reaction, which makes u fat in the end. Neither Carbs or Insulin as common can be blamed, because if u ate high carb and low fat you wouldn't gain much weight. And yes you lost Weight, as everyone who eats low carb or even no carb but this doesn't make it automatically healthy. Yes you lost weight but at a certain "cost" , and having less fat is unarguable good, but the way you achieve it should be as important as that. Therefore the people should really be reflecting if risking your health 2 achieve a certain appearance is really worth it
@@judaspreistvlct U know what, thanks 2 this comment I sold my soul, and i will spent my entire life hunting you down with all the power the contract gave me
You see? We think of Indians as eating healthy because so many of vegetarian or vegan. Trust me don't go vegetarian or vegan to lose weight it's just as easy to gain weight as it is to lose it. There is a lot of vegan junk food out there even eating too much fresh fruit is a bad thing too much of anything is a bad thing. I will say as I have said before the country is allowing this junk food in and the people are buying it when they don't have to! I gave up all of that processed food for the most part when I went vegan. I didn't go vegan to lose weight I went vegan for the right reasons but even before that I hadn't had anything fried or fast food in years and the last time I had fast food was two years ago I went to Wendy's and got a Blackberry lemonade because I was going to be 45 minutes on the road. People don't have to purchase the junk food I would rather have high quality food and less of it than junk food and more of it! People need to take responsibility and stop with the junk food! Yes it can be like an addiction but so is smoking and I quit smoking after 40 years I had my first cigarette at 8 years old and was a regular smoker by 12 years old. I moved where I live now and I quit overnight I couldn't smoke in here so I ordered Vape system which I have long since graduated from but I have not had a cigarette in nearly 4 years and I have cigarettes in the laundry room which are probably horribly stale. But what it shows is that I can live with cigarettes in the house and not open a pack and smoke it Outdoors. If I am extremely nervous or having anxiety I will pick up my vape and a cup of coffee and I don't think I will ever go back to cigarettes so it can be done and if you have children don't let them start! Don't make food a fun family thing on the weekend because you go to KFC and Taco Bell! Have game night or movie night make popcorn don't go out to the fast-food because there's nothing else to do. And don't bring it into your home. Indians used to bake and still do quite a bit at home and it's much healthier than buying pastries and candy bars in the shops. Elizabeth MD Ph.D food and nutrition science PhD microbiology
Lies aren't going to change anything. Being overweight will still cause Diabetes, stroke, heart disease and mre. No one really believes this crap with their made up studies.
Industrial seed oils, high PUFA diet, etc also play a role. There are cultures with low incidence of diabetes who range from very low carb, to very high carb intake. The unifying factor appears to be the introduction of high PUFA intake, which in turn leads to greater insulin resistance, metabolic derangement, & carb intolerance.
Being poor or in famine induces times of fasting and hard labor, which counterbalances the tendency for diabetes. The appetite developed for a rice and flour centric Asian diet will cause diabetes in times of plenty as insulin inhibits fat metabolism 3 times a day or more for two hour periods, and the need to labor decreases.
Eating too many high glycemic foods causes diabetes. It is not a secret. There are people who feed their pet monkeys junk food. The pet monkeys ask for more junk food like an addiction and easily get diabetes. It is important to eat a balanced meal. Consume carbs that have a low glycemic index or mix high glycemic foods with meats, chicken, fish, non-carb vegetables. It is how fast the spike in blood sugar that matters. One serving of white rice affects the upside to 10%.
Overpopulation. Where on earth are all these people going to obtain high quality animal protein on a daily basis? I know an Indian internet cook who can't even get meat for his recipes some times. You speak from the view of an extremely uninformed, over privileged dullard who knows nothing outside of their own rich little neighbourhood.
Indians have a misconception about healthy diet. We think that eating rice and roti is healthy. Indian traditional healthy diet is high calories carbohydrate based which was perfect for hard physical labor based lifestyle. But is a disastrous diet for the modern office and housewife based lifestyle. We do not realize how physically active our ancestors were to sustain that diet.
100 million! That means that almost 10% of the Indian population will have diabetes before 2030! 65% of Chennai's population! India is urbanizing very quickly, which means that a very large number of Indians will have diabetes by 2050. 500 million would not be out of the question. THAT IS INSANE!
The same doctors and scientists who fed us lies for years about diet and nutrition? Had us eating trans fats and low-fat high carb killer foods? The creators of that sham food pyramid? Yeah we don't trust them.
Perhaps you should see a doctor about your persecution complex? The doctors weren't lying; they were as confused as the rest of us. Inability to trust can be a serious malady.
Us people who spend too much time at gyms or with fitness in general know that having the correct body fat percentage is quite possibly one of the most important benchmarks a human can achieve. BMI is there too, but you do all those weight trainings just to avoid being 'thin fat'.
@@globalfamily8172 yep. That doesn't mean people can't work towards achieving lower fat percentages in their bodies. People here see a thin body, assume it is healthy.
I was listening to a Standard lecture from a decade ago talk about this. Heredity is not just genetic. They noticed this after WWII in the Dutch population I believe, where the Nazi basically forced starvation there. A similar effect appeared there, and also in those children's children.
I have been studying diabetes/Insulin resistance for a year now I was wondering why do some Indians and Africans in Africa have diabetes even when they are not obese. It appears that a high carbohydrate/sugar diet can make an individual insulin resistant at some point. There are still other factors that makes other groups diabetic in other parts of the world.
Sure, understanding epigenetics is important, but isn't it easier to just stop shoveling sugar into a body that's slowly dying of too much sugar, and disregard the details of exactly how much sugar it takes to kill a specific person?
So essentially, prenatal exposure to increased fat levels ready the cells by helping them adpot a certain insulin training pattern & become resilient to future fat flooding. However when cells are deprived of this training (aka low birth weight) their response to increased fat levels later in life is erratic & haywire.
Look at the importance of B-12. This is why veganism should never be followed by women who are planning to be pregnant. It is, by nature, a B-12 deficient diet. People always point at how vegetarianism and veganism should be followed and use India as an example but look at the bad health outcomes. This is what happens when not enough nutrition from meat and other animal foods is in the diet.
for normal people they work pretty well actually, and it's the easiest way to know if you're overweight or not, neither bodyfat nor eye masuring are that easy and acurate to give you an result. while yes every bodybuilder would be overweight we know they're not but there are so many people being overweight or obese and think their weight is normal and they are far away from being athletic.
+ massive increase in n-6 PUFA (SEED / "VEGETABLE" OILS) which are oxidised by sugars resulting from their high carbohydrate intakes. It's arguably the industrial oils that lead the causes.
They suffer from being skinny fat. High body fat %. They notoriously eat very little protein. Muscle mass acts as a carbohydrate bank storing glycogen. Surplus blood sugar causes insulin resistance. Lift some weights and eat protein!
Ancestors’ starvation may cause the body to store much more fat in anticipation of future famines. Added to this are high carbohydrate diets which aggravate the problem with glucose stored as fat. Seems that high fat diets with long spells of fasting is the best way to reverse this sad situation. If the body expects some famine, we must give it some ‘famine’ with fatty food that doesn’t spike insulin as much. That got me out of much trouble!
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I think something to do with race differences. In south Asia 90% of population went through constant famine for 1000s of years. during pre-mughal, mughal and british era. so they body adapted to low food availability. current situation is complete reverse. There is abundance of low nutrition calories rich food. that has something to with non-fat diabetes. All of them are skinny fat with no muscles.
Fascinating research. Alot of these diets look like they get plenty of macronutrients, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are poor in micronutrients. You can have a perfectly normal BMI and have excess fat stored around and in your organs (like the liver), and that puts you at risk for diabetes.
India, as far I remember, is the biggest sugar producer in the world. Although looking healthy, Indian kitchen is packed with sugar. Sugar, white rice, perfect recipe for diabetes.
I also had lifelong B12 deficiency which we did not know about until 4 or 5 years ago. My nerve damage was getting far worse so my neurologist tested for B12 and intrinsic factor and now I need to take a B12 injection every month at home.
its epidemic here in Philippines and the people are getting fat like the west, the western corporate food conglomerates see the markets in asia as very profitable
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Its crazy beacuse my husbands dad who is frim Mexico and lived in a very small very poor village and moved to the US he recently got diagnosed with diabetes despite being genreally active and thin. This explains so much. Very fascinating and very important work! Amazing documentary.
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Food and nutrition are two totally different concept, big size population live on fast food,refined carbs and processed meat only. Really valuable findings and great to share this video. Thanks
John Yudkin? Any relation to John Yudkin, author of Pure, White and Deadly? the man who tried to warn us back in the 1950's that sugar consumption causes heart disease?
Vegan and non-refined sugarist since October 2018 and havent felt better since. Because the of Mac Donalds, KFC, poptarts and candy the developing countries will also be diseased like most Westerners.
Nice video, I use Libre and Nightrider which help my daily life a little easier and my fingers. It always updates glucose levels on the watch directly.
Sugar is sugar. I loved Indian foods. Unfortunately all are carbo the root cause of diabetes. Sugar is sugar. Carbo, fructose are sugars. We know now why developing countries with highest diabetes prevalence like Indonesia, India, China, Pakistan are all carbo consumption countries. US and UK are pure sugar/fructose, they drink the carbo/sugar. Now we know what we are all going to do? 😢
Indians ha e always been eating carb rich foods for centuries. The real issue is, in modern days, we are not eating as tradition has prescribed. For instance, preferring refined, polished, huskless, bran less grains. Add refined ultra processed foods from west, sotuation is getting worse faster than we anticipated. Liver fat, not bady fat is the culprit n
Isn't this just the easily known fact that BMI is different for people with differing amounts of lean muscle mass? And that BMI is not exactly accurate as a measure of health?
The problem is also that when people tell other people about our body, what our risks are and what we need people refuse to listen, refuse to help, are nasty literally stop us from doing things that work because in their ego they know better and stupid us even when they don’t. People won’t help even when we tell them outright and beg them to listen and help in the way we need help. Lots of them don’t want to give. They have paternalism and infantilize and decide they know best about our own body and situation and “fix” things in ways that make things worse! Everyone is such a genius on everyone else’s life and destroys it “for your own good.” Literally we are doing things that work and people intervene and stop us, then later when they create their own mess and problem they think they are going to fix us again and control and manipulate us to fix problems they created with their ego and selfishness and nastiness. There is literally a cure for every disease except human ego selfishness hate and nastiness.
Funny my mum is from India and lived through the period of 1943 and never mentioned this famine and a shortage of food. She mentioned the shortage of food when she came to this country in 1948 and going into the 50s.
Combining insulin resistance with increased sugar and processed sugar intake has caused an epidemic. Sugar per se isn't bad, but some people are born without a good ability to produce insulin. Therefore they become pre diabetic or diabetic. Recent changes in the food industry are just bringing to light these health conditions that people already had. This documentary brings to light two problems. Malnutrition of a pregnant woman and diabetes, then it goes on to explain how the two may or may not be correlated.
Have you physically tried a little of experimental farming? According to Soviet era research it says otherwise and vitamin B12 are high if you are using heirloom natural genetic varieties of rice, practicing deep plowing, recycling all organic wastes and mixing composite rock dust mixtures as the organic wastes turned into humus creating humic acids that dissolves the composite rock dust mixtures (rock dust powder as fine as baby powder dissolves in water) and making the soil is given sufficient time to make itself properly and well biogeochemically balanced. Physical evidence is undeniable proof and irrefutable physical factors. Ever heard of beri-beri? Prisoners living on brown rice never had beri-beri but when given white rice they started having beri-beri and that is a scientific physical fact for it happened in the past in some Southeast Asian prison. And the other eating habits that might includes foods that might interfere with B12 absorption. The list is very long. DON'T BE ONLINE DEPENDENT, READ PHYSICAL PRINTED BOOKS GOING WAY BACK TO THE PAST IN THE 1990s, 1980s, 1970s, 1960s, 1950s, 1940s, 1930s, 1920a, 1910s, 1900.....and check your library microfilm archives concerning food and nutrition. We have been warning of a digital dark age and a digital dictatorship, and now BOTH ARE HAPPENING CREATING CENSORSHIP, DELETION, DISINFORMATION, MISINFORMATION, HALF TRUTHS/HALF LIES, ETC. With physical printed books and microfilm archives with microfilm equipments and office equipments and starting from the present edition to the past and 1st edtition you can have all of the information simultaneously open to you to conduct instantaneous access and cross-referencing capabilities while showing all themselves of their contents to you simultaneously. Unfortunately houses today do not even have a library room and a study-library room/office room filled with books covering all fields of human knowledge of civilization. A large library with large tables and well lighted and well equipped with 1970s and 1960s and early 1980s era office equipments and other technologies to make research-studying convenient are the required infra-technostructures. But now they are most missing in your American households, not all, but most of them are ill-equipped for they have been brainwashed that all they need is a computer and that is wrong for they have no physical printed books/microfilm archives libraries with the necessary analog equipments to do the required cross-referencing and counter-checking. All printed media such as textbooks, books, pocket books, hard bound books, encyclopedias, dictionaries, maps, calendars, leaflets, pamplets, booklets, mini-mags, etc, covering all the ages of the past many decades before the year 2000 is what you must acquire and study. Study speed reading, speed comprehension, speed retention, speed memorization, speed thought organization of knowledge in a well properly orderly manner, speed mental recall, etc. That way you won't miss a single thing.
Could not add any more words to your comment. Im a fan of studies made during 50s and 60s and those books are a treasure. Nowdays internet and social media have destroyed the logic and comprehensive way of getting and analyzing information, there is a lot of info but less knowledge. Good to hear someone with this particular way of thinking. God bless
Well you didnt address a major difference between their diets, Western diet is heavily Non vegetarian while Indian diet is overly vegetarian. Thus Indian diet is high in carb which is a problem.
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Nice video, for monitoring my glucose values I use Nightrider CGM with Libre sensor. I am able to get alarms for out of range readings, share readings with my endo and caregivers. It's the best method of tracking exercise, diet, and other activities on one platform.
i’ve been told that I was a skinny sickly baby, which almost didn’t make it. I am now 71 years of age and I have diabetes and a heart condition.If we are going to get at the truth we have to keep searching. I don’t believe we have the full answer yet. I don’t consider myself obese, but I do have a problem with vitamin B12 so I find this video very interesting.
I'm 5'10 and I'm around 177 pounds which puts me in the overweight range (25.3 bmi) but I have a body fat percentage of around 22 percent. I'm from Pakistan. My father who is 47 is also overweight , he also smokes some times but he hasn't faced any hypertension or diabetes. I think people who are thin naturally can develop some bad eating habits because their metabolism makes it hard for them to gain weight , so they aim to gain weight and eat whatever they want. When these people get in the normal weight range , they carry a lot of body fat but have thinner arms and legs. This indicates a lack of muscle. This phenomenon is also called 'skinny fat'. People become skinny fat because these people are sedentary or have bad eating habits. I think even vegertarinism has some role too in this because this diet consists of high carbs and low protein if these people people eat more protein they would have 9 percent body fat at a BMI of 22.1 like that British guy in the video. Eating habits should be monitored amount these people and if they eat bad they will become skinny fat. A prime example is my cousin who was too thin in his childhood but started eating too much and then started eating too much junk food and now he has gained a lot of belly fat and has no muscle definition , so it means he's skinny fat and needs muscular development. Now everyone in the healthy weight range is not skinny fat unless they have 25 percent body fat or more. People who are naturally heavier also carry more lean muscle mass for example thick arms and legs that's why they have a good muscle to fat ratio. Even with a heavy figure these people are metabolically healthy.
It's the size of your fat cells. If your body produces so much fat that your fat cells don't have enough room to store it, it spills over and seeps into your organs. There the fat causes inflammation and insulin resistance. I'm thinking maybe people who were born smaller probably have smaller fat cells as well and therefore more likely for fat spillage.
OK......BUT!!! I have the study from 1957. That low vitamin B12. Reduces glutathione production. That's needed to break down glucose. Sooo.....the experiment they're running needs to be altered. I mean....its already known back in 1957. That if you are low on B12....you can't break down glucose. And of you can't breakdown glucose in the cell....so you will be skinny fat,, diabetic dependent.
