It was. the first time I heard this line I heard Catherine Langford tell Daniel "This is as far as we have ever been able to get." when they were trying to get the Stargate to dial Abydos.
Always loved that installation looks, has a military look - but definitely a civilian research vibe!! Receiving the secret decryption code by Eli was really brilliant.
They had good math and good software. They had strong power supply and adequate cooling. But moving parts are always prone to failure. If you want reliability then you need a solid state stargate.
The only moving part is the dial ring that allowed for manual dialing. A feature they cannoned as static when using a dhd to dial because the original 'off world' gate prop was a solid piece for easier transport.
I love how they took apart a perfectly good DHD to interface with it, when the computers can just do that already. In fact it's faster to dial with the DHD and if you're not using the DHD to dial it means you don't need it. So why take it apart to interface with it when the comp[uters can interface fine with the gate...
@@Xershade Probably because a DHD is unable to channel the power necessary to dial the ninth chevron (let alone the eighth), and probably doesn't have the control crystals to dial the eighth and ninth.
@@DayneTreader Yes. The point is the DHD is irrelevant. They're dialing with a custom program, but chose to plug that into the DHD instead of just plugging it directly into the gate like they do literally everywhere else they have a dialing computer. They took apart the DHD to interface with it, when they're not using the DHD's dialing program.
The ninth chevron targets a specific gate, rather then a location in space. The difference is instead of a lower energy beam through subspace, it's a radial bubble that expands until the gate is found. It's gonna spin until it hits the gate halfway across the universe.
Icarus base: **BOOM** **Series ends.** Yes, both instances of actually dialing it people were attacking and making the stupidly unstable planet even more unstable, but we also don't know if that much power just makes the planet go boom anyhow. It's why when Earth rolled up on Langara going "Hey, can we use your planet to power a gate." they told them "HELL NO! GET OFF OUR PLANET! NOW!"
The Icarus gate probably could have dialled Earth without any problems, and they'd probably done it already. The gate was only modified to prevent incoming wormholes. What's more interesting is that the Ancients would have known that dialling Destiny would blow up the planet and didn't care.
There's an amazing break down of how the gates work, with regards to 9 chevrons, explaining what happened here. Every single gate has a 9 chevron address, and dialing that address goes to _that_ gate specifically. That is why every gate has 9 chevrons to begin with. Every gate address less then 9 is a spatial coordinate to the rough location within a gate network, in a galaxy. The 8th chevron targets the specific gate network, Ori, Pegasus etc. The classic 7 chevron address references a location in space. The difference between the 9 chevron code and then the spatial addresses is the spatial sends a targeted subspace pulse to that spatial coordinate, finds the primary gate( the one connected to a DHD) or failing that just any gate there, and a wormhole is established. The 9 chevron address sends a radial pulse outwards, expanding, drawing more power until it hits the exact target gate. In the case of Destiny, they had no idea that radial pulse was reaching halfway across the known universe. With all of this in mind, I wish we could get the answer to if they could dial a gate from the SGC, to another gate on earth using it's 9 chevron address.
This is the only Stargate series I say should be rebooted. Overall plot involving Destiny's mission was interesting once it was established but, series had problems.
Bit late here, but I definitely agree. It definitely added to the drama that Young was a royal pain in the ass at times, that Rush was very selfish and secretive, and that Chloe had the alien influence and alien skin that was taking over. I always preferred Stargate exploration over politics, and Universe was full of the former. Still pissed that Scott often did a better job at leadership than Young, to add on.
The cast was too large and the stupid mind phones to earth simply ruined this show. Would have been better with a 6 man research team getting stuck on Destiny and trying to survive day by day, planet by planet, and then another mistake was the dual timelines stories about how they went back in time and populated several solar systems and create several Earth like worlds civilizations but also didnt leave Destiny ? Also that crazy idea about Destiny is traveling to the very core of the Universe to answrr a signal coming from their, which if you havent figured out is actually Destinys own log transmission from when it finally arrives at the core , the ship is somehow traveling back in time to the Big Bang and the signal being recieved is their signal travelling millions of light years would be getting recieved in the present day.
When this was originally cancelled the consensus was it sucked. I disagreed, because I knew what it would mean; here we are over a decade later, nothing stargate related on the horizon.
I remember in an interview I don't remember with who, they were talking about how Michael Shanks did some scenes for universe and they were reviewing them and laugh, lamenting while talking to Shanks that they wouldn't be able to use a lot of the footage because it didn't have the tone of the show that they were going for. It was simply a different show there was a lot like Battlestar Galactica and it didn't do well it could have but yeah. I've never seen all of it but from what I did see, it simply wasn't as much fun.
You're joking, right? Universe was the weakest of them all, more akin to Battlestar Galactica than SG-1 or Atlantis. I'd love to see another SG series one day but there's a reason why this one was cancelled.
@Jonathan Laveaud i have nothign against comic books,just not my cup of tea. the issue is this: OP was wishing for continuing the story. solution for so many open questions. and 1if you take 12 comic books and concentrate the text within into simply text,you get about as much as one article from a news page. where there would be stuff enough for 2 or 3 new series,when played right. at least they could have come up with real books. like Voyager did,15 books with loads of text/story,covering several years storyline after voyagers return. but what did we get? a lot of nice pictures,and some short text bubbles. a story that can be told within 15 minutes,not even a complete episode. so yeah,i'm complaining about the lost chances. Comicbook is simply nbot the media that would cover the neccesarry bases to continue the story of Stargate in gernal or SGU in particular.
@@gratius1394 Unfortunately the great BSG reboot forever transformed SF and everything that came after had to be gritty.. Thus SGU (which if you rewatch with different expectations) is not terrible, it's just not what Stargate fans (me included) wanted and loved.
There's an amazing fan script with the final season online. I found it years ago shortly after SGU ended, I'm sorry but I don't currently have a link I can post. But I highly reccomend searching for it and Googleing SGU ending or something? No spoilers, but the non-cannon final season they notice the surrounding Stars are red-shifting; it means they're getting closer to the centre of the expanding Universe. Basically heading towards the place the original Big Bang expanded from (which makes sense as the Ancients were looking for those fingerprints of intelligence from the POC, so heading towards where space-time erupted from is a logical course). It's an amazing read. I'm a completionist and it drives me mad they cut SGU short, but the fan script is genuis and gives a sense of closure. Hopefully it officially continues one day (it would certainly be fitting with time-skip so they could write in why the actors look older lol), but the fan continuation shouldn't be too hard to find I'd imagine as it's been out years now since I first read it. It's gold and the Author does Stargate true credit, from the writing he demonstrated I'd definitely watch actual shows by him. If they reboot it they need to get him on board!
If the last chevron won't lock then either the coordinates are not viable or the power to make the connection is insufficient. Either way, it's not going to work.
@@PerfectAlibi1 Wrong adress. Destiny automatically exits FTL when it receives an incoming hole. The problem was that they had to put the Earth as the point of origin, since the address is rather a code and not a set of coordinates as in other gates. Instead, they put the point of origin of Icarus (the planet where they were).
Something I can't help but find odd is how the milky way gate was chosen to make a number of destiny gate style sound effects during this scene. Don’t get me wrong I really like the sounds of the destiny gates, but its strange to hear them applied to a milky way one.
Destiny was apparently still travelling through hyperspace when they dialed out to the ship. The wormhole will not form until the ship comes out of hyperspace and returns to normal space.
Destiny travels though FTL instead of hyperspace. It’s similar but I believe slightly slower than hyperspace travel. Also Destiny drops out of FTL automatically when it detects an incoming wormhole. The 9th Chevron is a code and not an address like all the other planets has dialed. Destiny was meant to be dialed from Earth, therefore you need to use Earth as the point of origin
No, it didn't work because the ancients put in a security system that meant it require the exact right amount of power from a very rare fuel source, naquadria and it wasn't a address but a code. wrong code, no connection.
This discrepancy might explain why it was so difficult to figure out the 7 chevron address system in the original Stargate. The "Point of Origin" signals the end of the "number" to "dial". If the point of origin is not entered correctly, then the gate may accept up to 9 chevrons before failing. In the miniseries "Stargate Origins: Catherine", they discover a 7 chevron address different from the one on the cover stone in the "Stargate" movie. The gate address on the cover stone being only six symbols, left them with three examples 6, 7, and 9. One has to wonder if Orion signals that a password to a specific gate was entered, or if any other 9th Chevron gate addresses might be completely random. 9 digit passwords with a limited number of presumably non-repeatable characters, should not be impossible to brute force. Energy requirements for gates located outside of the Milky Way, or the possibility that the Nox might have buried Stargates with direct connections removing them from the active Stargate network to be detected by the SGC, might have thwarted efforts to discover 9th Chevron addresses. Surely by the end of Stargate: Atlantis' run, and the beginning of Stargate: Universe, the SGC had sufficient technology and familiarity with Ancient technology to improve their ability to search for non-standard gate addresses.
It's not a movie, it's a TV series called Stargate Universe. There are two other series (Stargate SG1 and Stargate Atlantis) that come before this but you don't need to watch them to enjoy this one if you don't want too. Though they are amazing so I highly recommend them.
@@hahshhshshsjs5150 Wasn't really an ulterior motive... he was just very zealous about getting through the gate. He wanted to get to the other side and, at the end of the day, the cost - whatever that should be - would absolutely have been worth it in his eyes.
The DHD is not just a dialing device. It contains a lot of software to operate the Stargate. Since those scientists had no idea what the 9th chevron is for they couldn't really program everything necessary into the dialing software. So hooking a DHD into the system should ensure that everything is in place. However, since we're still kind of improvising by using a planet as a power source (which was clearly not the original plan, because the Ancients had other power sources and probably intended to board Destiny from Earth), we still need our computer to do the energy calculations while dialing and making sure the right amount of energy is flowing into the system.
@@Domihork The entire Milkyway network of Stargates had their DHD dialing software reprogrammed in SG-1. I suppose the SGC did have the City of Atlantis to recover older versions of the dialing software from, which might have included information for dialing the 9th Chevron. What was it that Eli was figuring out in his video game anyway?
The are probably spending at this point like 10 billion of a new ship. The whole program is probably assorbing 100bn plus a year by this point. This was a minor program.
SGC/SG1 brought back heaps of tech that the US eventually ended up covertly dispersing into the civilian market, the various Stargate programs were probably more than paying for themselves.
It doesn't help that this is a bad quality upload. I could swear that there is this exact scene but in HD on RU-vid, and recently too. Now, I can't find it.
@@k0lpA - That’s what happens when you try to copy another person’s idea. BSG worked because it was BSG. You can make a show like it, but everyone will see it’s a rip off.
