@@stevencramsie9172 Attendance is not an issue. When the team wins the fans will come. They sold close to 2M tickets this season in an 84 win year. They will likely be top-15 in attendance this season like the video maker said.
@@sokrates6737 Phoenix is a great sports town but they will support you only when you win. Too many distractions and too many options to watch a bad sports product.
Oakland has lost 3 professional sports teams in the last decade or so San Diego and St Louis have both lost NFL teams Seattle lost a NBA team ... Those are all decent sized markets what it really comes down to is ownership you're market size means nothing if ownership is tired of dealing with the city
This is what baffles me also. After spending millions and billions of dollars they will just demolish it. Fenway and Wrigley Field have stand the test of time Dodgers Stadium is still one of the best stadiums in MLB despite being old by today's standard.
It's ridiculous! The Angels were smart to merely renovate their stadium at age 33, instead of building a new one. By contrast, Cincy's Riverfront stadium only lasted from 1970-2002, and they went in for a whole new one. Not smart! But TX takes the cake: Arlington only lasted from 1972-1993 (21 years), Globe Life from 1994-2019 (25 years), and now they have a new one, opened four years ago already--so they must be thinking it's look'n old.
I remember when it opened as Bank1 Ballpark back then and the stadium was amazing. I honestly figured it was the envy of the MLB at the time. I still think Chase is a nice ballpark. Crazy what 25 years will do.
Unfortunately the stadium's infrastructure ages. From the rest room fixtures to the grills and coolers, as well as the HVAC and the seats... Just like your home, home improvements are necessary...
@@ronclark9724 They learned that from Minnesota. Metropolitan Stadium was NEVER maintained. The Twins and Vikings just let it rust away until it was unsafe, then they said, "We need a new stadium!" If I had owned the Twins in 1980, I would have told the Vikings, "You can keep your dome!" I would have rebuilt Metropolitan Stadium one section at a time, and KEPT IT UP.
The biggest issue with the D-backs and Coyotes is that Phoenix is a city of transplants. People are moving there but bringing their previous fandom with them. Someday I hope they are able to grow their own fanbase, and not just have stadiums where most of the fans are for the visiting teams.
I had the opportunity To visit PHX last year in April & it was awesome ! Got to see the Dbacks play against the padres at chase field & I had a great experience. Gallen pitched and the D’backs shut out the Padres and the crowd was absolutely electrified ⚡️ chase was jammed packed with padres fans lol As a Mets fan I love chase field and went it was built in the 90s they changed the game with the pool in the outfield. Very cool feature. I love the large pitcher friendly dimensions and the high 20 foot wall in dead center at 407 feet from home plate gives you a challenge to smack one over it. I love how they never changed their dimensions. The food and beer wasn’t over priced and the tickets 🎫 are good price for great seats. Yes the upper deck is a bit superfluous and it makes chase cavernous but I’m sure they can just conduct some renovations to it. They had the roof open the evening I attended the game and it was about 90 degrees during the day maybe 82 game time and it dropped to about high 60s at night and they left the roof completely open which was dope. Also PHX has a decent light rail system which got me around town pretty good especially from the airport. Chase field has a great location in downtown PHX and hopefully they won’t leave. I would love to go back and watch them play my Mets one day.
Me too ! I go a few times a year and really like the overall feel and comfort of the stadium. I do agree centerfield and some updates are welcome. But other than that it’s in a great location, I’d assume for the value of the stadium and it really has held up well over the years. Very clean!
the problem isn't the stadium..... its baseball.... no upgrade can fix a snoozefest. but you already knew that as you started to type out a reply and then deleted it instead haha
Yeah I also went last year to chase field and the grand canyon I'm also a Mets fan... going to a cubs game early in the season and either a Mets game or padres later in the season
@@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena - I believe that hockey weas also played in the Memorial Coliseum at fair grounds for a while too, but that was probably the road runners
Not practical. Not every owner is Stan Kroenke and can afford to build on their own dime. The other thing is, financially speaking, there are very few cities where you can build a privately financed stadium and make a guaranteed profit because events AND corporate money will go there no matter what (LA and New York and Miami). That leaves very few other cities where municipalities HAVE TO provide public funding for their stadiums in some form. The big conundrum, that is also not practical, is figuring out what to do one multiple parties want new facilities at the same time. It's easy when, say, the Colts need a new stadium and they're the only pro team that needs a new massive home at the time. It's another thing when, say, both the Bears and the White Sox need new stadiums basically in the same neighborhood, lol, and the state, county, and city leadership in Illinois has to figure out how to help them.
@@maxkeebs4425 It is 100% practical. The Giants funded their own stadium by taking out a 20 year loan. The rest was funded with PSL and advertising. The City didn't pay a dime for that stadium and have no obligations towards it. They did some minor street improvements and added public transit which was going in anyway. Other owners can do exactly the same. To say they can't do it is just total and utter bull honky. Other owners just want a free handout and don't want to take on debt. Most to the time with a new building the value of the franchise goes up. Raiders have more then doubled in value and Davis got a free handout. And by the way the Giants won 3 WS got to another when they were still paying off that loan.
You would be fired immediately! Also there's nothing wrong with public money, especially for MLB Ballparks. On average they bring in over 2.5 million people a year to the ballpark area, it's huge for the local economy
As someone who travels to all those spring training fields annually in the dead of heat. It was laughable when I saw the headline and the proposed location!
@@michaelcrawford8401 Phoenix to Scottsdale...12 miles! You do realize Tempe,Chandler, Glendale, Gilbert,Goodyear and Paradise Valley are in the Phoenix area! 12 F*CKING miles and you don't consider that the Phoenix area?
@@michaelcrawford8401 born there.Could walk to the top of my road near Shadow Mountain and see the skyline. Took about 15-20 minutes to drive downtown. I guess your idea of being in the area is across the street from the stadium.
I went to the first game at the “BOB”. The majority of ballgames I’ve attended have been there too. I agree that the upper decks are too large and the centerfield could be reimagined, but not too much…it’s what gives the ballpark its character.
@@805fillmore I went to a Diamondbacks-Braves game back in 2010 when I drove from Louisiana to California. It was 114 degrees outside and walking inside the stadium felt like walking into a refrigerator.
My. theory is that MLB owners wanted to use Oakland as an example (unanimous approval of relocation, waiving relocation fees). Now all of the billionaire owners can extort their host cities for stadium upgrades. I also think MLB will hold off on expansion as long as possible. Once Nashville and one other lucky city get an MLB franchise, the other owners will lose their leverage.
The Braves have got everybody thinking more than baseball now with all the building they did around their stadium. They created a whole new mini-community of iffices, condos and restaurants. That's what the Titans have promised with their new stadium, but we will see. Nashville doesn't need anymore stimulus. There is no shortage of people wanting to move there.
FYI the team has been sold to a group of investors here in Vancouver Canada and are relocating here. The Sonics left Seattle as well remember and they won a championship to in 1979.
@@michaelcrawford8401 dude you can drive from Phoenix to Scottsdale in like 20 min... I'm born and raised in az. You have no idea what you're talking about.
No there was not a threat to leave Arizona. Did you listen to Kendrick at all? He iterated, yet again, that the diamondbacks are part of the fabric of Arizona. The headline on this video says they’re threatening to leave Arizona. No. They’re not. They never did. Please listen to Kendrick again.
For your information I'm up in Vancouver Canada and the team is being sold to investors here in Vancouver. It's their last season in Arizona. Kendricks is lying to all you residents there.
@@anthonys3631 2,000 years from now, nobody shall even remember that Vancouver had ever existed. "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind" (Isaiah 65:17, KJV). Even so, come, Lord Jesus! Establish the Kingdom of Peace in Jerusalem (Isaiah 9:7, KJV)!
I think Depressed Ginger may be onto something with his idea for a website involving stadium renovation news and teams threatening to relocate. This would be...uh, pretty spicy stuff.
I was in Milwaukee in 2010 and saw a game. I was talking to one of the ushers who told me that the stadium never had an air conditioning system that was adequate. I guess that will be one of the updates. I would have liked to see them move to Portland and return to being the Pilots. Arizona--typical move by rich guys to get the poor to pay the bills for their desires! I'd like to see the D-Backs move to Mexico City or Las Vegas (there was a previous threat to move there), and for the A's to move to Arizona.
Scottsdale and Phoenix literally border each other lol they aren't "relocating out of the Phoenix area". This is 100% a bluff. The current location of Chase Field in downtown Phoenix right next door to the Suns arena is the best possible location for a ballpark in the state. Any other location would be a complete downgrade.
Chase field will not be gone. Instead it will turn into soccer stadium for future mls Phoenix rising fc. Which is extremely likely to happen here for sure. Real see what will happen here.
I'm an A's fan in the Bay Area, but I've spent a lot of time in Phoenix with friends. I've been to Chase Field. That is a gigantic cavern of a stadium with that ceiling closed.
from an Oakland A;'s fan, we tried to warn other fans that they were next. from the bottom of my heart i'm sorry this could happen to yall, from someone in the middle of it.
And is it that bad ? Multi billion dollar owners can fund their own d(*( buildings. Oakland is still paying off Mt. Davis and paying the bare mim on those bonds, its estimated it will take 20 more years at best like paying just the bare min on a credit card it never gets paid off.
@@805fillmore dbacks fans never organized their own giveaway of 7k plus shirts. Which A’s fans have. Tried to be nice but apparently it’s fuck us even when we do. Don’t say i didn’t warn yall when phoenix gets their arm twisted for hundreds of millions for a 25 year old stadium.
If the diamondbacks move to Scottsdale, they would need to rent and buy land from the reservation and pay a percentage to tribe. It could be an issue that they most likely don’t wanna get their hands in.
Correction, the Brewers are replacing their centerfield scoreboard with a bigger one. The Brewers’ centerfield scoreboard is not being reconfigured. And they’re adding a videoboard in right field. I don’t know what your beef is with the scoreboard in centerfield. I don’t have an issue with it. I don’t think many people have an issue with it.
Owners! As a baseball fan i appreciate my team's 60+ years old stadium i go every year (go Dodgers!) You guys are fking greedy! If you can't afford to keeping with renovations, just sell the team! Don't ask for the public $
As a Giant’s fan who has been to the D’Backs stadium several times I say it is nice. It is no comparison to our stadium which is only 2 years younger. Yes center field is a weak link in yours. We still have the best address in baseball. Plus it was all done without public funding. We almost lost the Giants because they couldn’t get public funding in many cities here in the Bay Area. So good luck to them to get their improvements and make it a nice stadium to visit.
Attendance wise? I think the reason being the Dbacks been just an average team the last decade mostly and they upped ticket prices too along with food. I know everywhere is up. Also think outside of the Suns, most the Arizona sports teams have always had a fair weather following, Suns being the outlier here because of being the original franchise to the city
More than likely they would move to where they play in the Cactus League..Salt River Fields on the Salt River Indian Community in the Talking Stick area. More land to develop and closer to the East Valley, where most of the fan base is.
BY Public Money what do they mean? Like sales tax? or Bonds? Imagine seeling construction bonds that fans could buy and literally own park of the Ball Parks...
Cities need to start telling these teams… Get bent…. Chase field is beautiful.. so CF looks ugly to you… Big Flip… Frankly, The D-Backs have a beautiful park… if they don’t like it… well, good luck with a move… it won’t be that easy…
@@805fillmore I’m a bit more old-school. 100 years ago, these teams bought the land and built their own facilities… then after WWII… suddenly they started holding cities hostage. Recently though, I’ve started seeing a few cities that are starting to wake up and stop playing that game… the teams need them more than the cities need the teams.. the reason why some NFL teams are building their own stadiums.. MLB cities need to push that.. when these cities realize that if the team builds…. they have a harder time walking away from their equity… Major sports teams, they get that new stadium/arena.. when the first lease is up.. back to the threats.. that cycle needs to end.
@@805fillmore Yup… LA told the Rams they could build.. but LA and California would not be putting in any $$$ to help… and that stadium is beautiful.. all private too… The bears have been trying the same thing but for some stupid reason Illinois is trying to stop them… The bears should simply threaten to move to Gary, IN or at least start LOOKING at property there.. close enough to Chicago.. but not in IL…might just shake them up enough to let the bears do their project
I am from Phoenix, I went the opening game … I watched the stadium be built, I personally have worked on this stadium … enjoyed both World Series.. that said, f*ck this team.. let them leave …
This story plays throughout America, even at the minor league level. Cites will build a new stadium to LAND or KEEP a pro team, but then won't spend a cent to sustain or maintain them. Cities or counties are the landlords, the pro teams are just tenants. When you lease is expiring your landlord will most likely offer improvements to the property to get you to sign a new lease. The expenses will be recouped with the new lease. The proof is in the pudding, you only need to google images of the recently built Hodgetown in Amarillo and the former Potter County Memorial Stadium built after World War II... Amarillo spent 38 years in purgatory without affiliated minor league baseball before the new stadium landed another affiliated team...
The notion that the Brewers "threatened" to leave Milwaukee completely mischaractarizes the truth. It was reported that the terms of the lease state that the team has the right to relocate if the stadium district does not maintain the stadium to the standards of the top x-number MLB stadiums. When asked if the team would leave without renovations the team said it was something they would have to explore. WOW! What a threat. You make it sound like a scene from the Godfather...."either your signature or your brains will be on that contract." If you don't pay your rent you get evicted. Is that a threat? No. It's the reality of the lease.
iTalk already brings up how D-Backs ownership has no intent of leaving Phoenix, and that they can pay out of pocket for the renovations. So they're not threatening to relocate by any means, so a little misleading there…
In an odd twist of fate, 3 of the 5 oldest MLB parks are in California. As for the Coyotes, perhaps they decamp to Salt Lake City? Would not even have to change their name.
The city of Phoenix must be punching itself because the city of Tempe denied the coyotes from building their own arena which they were almost going to pay exclusively for in private funds, and now the DBacks are wanting half a billion to stay. It just sounds like sports in the city are collapsing, they need a win somewhere.
@@PHXNKVHXLIC they bring in money and who doesn’t want an NHL team? It brings in tourism and money to surrounding businesses and such. Businesses in Glendale have gone to the gutters now that coyotes have left because of the lack of business. It’s overall a thing you should want in a large metropolitan area.
The only teams that should be relocating is Tampa Bay Rays and Miami Marlines. Florida has no market and it makes sense for those teams to go to Vegas or Nashville. And hockey in Arizona makes no sense and the White Sox should stay in the Southside of Chicago.
There is no relocation threat. Kendrick said it wasnt and Derrick Hall confirmed it wasn't. They arent leaving Chase or AZ, its the way of getting money for renovation is the problem. Read the articles people. Plus those renderings are over 6 years old and outdated
FYI I'm up in Vancouver Canada. Kendrick has visited Vancouver multiple times. Told buy some prominent business people here in Vancouver the team has been sold and is relocating to Vancouver after the conclusion of the season.
There will be NO new ballpark in downtown Phoenix. Most residents are still pissed about Chase Field. The most likely scenario is the D-backs move to the Salt River Fields area, near the casino.
FYI I'm up in vancouver Canada. Team is relocating here after the season. I know business folks here in Vancouver assuring me they are relocating here.
Misinformation right off the bat. Scottsdale adjoins Phoenix, and both are in Maricopa County, so it's not "out of the area." The Coyotes left their arena in Glendale, and never played at The Footprint Center. Get your facts straight!!
The Diamondbacks did **not** threaten to move. That's a media interpretation. The managing partner stated the **fact** that a number of cities are exploring the possibility of adding major league teams. That's all.
I myself don't want to pay for stadium upgrades as they are willing to pay players tens of million a year, but want the tax payers to pay for the stadium. I live in Phoenix and don't care if they leave.
Billionaires wanting handouts. Guess that’s how they got rich. Franchise goes up 100 times in value, they get free renovations, then they eventually cash out. Good work if you can get it. I guess they’ll be setting up a Go Fund Me too. 🤣
Winnipeg Jets leave Winnipeg, in Canada, a hockey team, for Phoenix, where it is 110 degrees for half the year. It was stupid back then, and very stupid now. Now, Winnipeg has the Jets back, and Phoenix has a clusterphuck NHL franchise that will leave, and an MLB team that plays in an aircraft hangar. It's probably karma.
