Did Bible Translators Invent the Word "Homosexuality?" 

Haha yeah... tik tok isn't the best place to get your information :/ It's sad so many people take it word for word

Perfectly stated 👊🏿💯

Its how they get so mad about whenever, someone mentions something about homosexuality. Our duties as Christians is to give them the Word, and it's up to them if they want to accept it. Jesus, told His disciples if they go into a town and preach the Word and nobody wants to hear it, He said to leave that town, and shake the dust off of your feet and keep it moving.

@@Failur3i5n0tan0pt1on Because people don’t want the truth when it disrupts their lives. Yes, there are various interpretations and translations, but when one goes back to the origins of sacred scripture, one always finds the truth.

Or vacuum cleaners....I'm totally against them!!!! lol

If the Bible is straightforward, why are there thousands of denominations disagreeing on virtually every point in scripture?

Amen, God bless u anthony ❤

Ikr.

Anthony! I was just noticing you deleted all your videos :( I'm sorry you got so much hate and I am praying for you

God bless you from Ireland :)

Hi. I’ve been reflecting on the 2nd Commandment about not making images of God, and I realized that since we don’t know what Jesus looked like, having pictures of Him might not align with that. I just wanted to share this with you, as it’s something that’s been on my heart lately. I’m not trying to be critical, just sharing what I’ve been thinking about. Hope this encourages some reflection!

Perfectly said. Unfortunately, things like this, is only going to get worse. People want their sins to be made OK by the Bible and other people by force

@@leslieasaiah-asher Yes, it's getting worse. Its almost feels like their intentions are evil.

She can actually be found in the Scriptures as one of the false teachers who will exchange the truth for a lie, teaching what itching ears want to hear. I guess we are living in "the time that will come"

What are this woman’s sins? Are you assuming she’s gay?

@@theroguejester6412 Her sin is being a false teacher about the truth of God, deceiving people. See 2 Timothy 3:16 - 4:4. Jesus says this to those who struggle with sin: "So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed" (John 8:36)

I mean He clearly did not come of His own Accord 🤪 (Jn. 8:42)

It is true that no Biblical author knew about automobiles. So to declare that the Bible says anything about them is anachronistic.

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@@theroguejester6412 jOkE

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She began her polemic with blasphemy. Classy lady

Exactly what I thought!!

That indeed says it all starting by blaspheming

That shows she's only s cultural/social christian Her Christianity changes as the world changes.

It would probably be easier to list the languages he doesn't speak.

@@rwleif It would lol.

😂😂😂😂😂 Well said 😂

In my opinion she only has her BS.

Perhaps Dr. Brown should remove the “Dr.” title from his name then too?

@@theroguejester6412 lol lad, this isn't even apples and oranges; this is apples and circuit boards.

@@TheOtherPaul I would say that a Masters in Divinity and a Doctorate in Near Eastern Languages are quite comparable when discussing Bible translations, no?

@@theroguejester6412 you miss the point so greatly. The lady spends a huge chunk of her tik tok flaunting her credentials even though they mean nothing with respect to claims of fact; she's attempting to woo her watchers with her authority. Dr. Brown doesn't flaunt his credentials to support his claim here: that's the difference.

But no, a Masters in Divinity and a Doctorate in ANE languages are not comparable. The latter involves an original research thesis of over double the length of a Master's thesis, with higher scrutiny too. But that's neither here nor there.

Appeal to authority fallacy.

Isn’t Dr. Brown doing exactly the same thing? “I studied this, therefore I must be right” It’s the same fallacy

@@theroguejester6412 Sorry did you even watch the video?? Can you point out where Dr. Brown does this? Because what I observed was him appealing to credible sources outside of his own opinion and 'authority.'

Danfi Parker The “Doctor” title refers to his Ph.D in Near Eastern Languages and Literature from New York University. He considers himself a credible source. I’ve also shared several credible sources on this page, feel free to read my other comments.

@@theroguejester6412 Does Dr Brown say he is right or he gives us the translation of the verse in various languages? Not to mention, he tells us the viewers to look at the original language instead of translations in German to see what it really means.

Yeah, it’s weird. For thousands of years, no Biblical scholar taught anything about human sexual orientation, and now it’s all anyone can seem to talk about

@@theroguejester6412 “no biblical scholar taught anything about human sexual orientation” must not have watched the video. Or have ever read anything written by those scholars denigrating and rebuking the sexual sins of the societies they lived in. Or ever read the Bible, considering the text itself references human sexuality often as it’s a major issue that faces every single human being. The difference is that societies for thousands of years based on the Abrahamic religions and their texts have consistently held sexual deviances and aberrations to be abhorrent and that has only recently become less the norm. There’s no need to harp on homosexuality when the culture you live in already openly condemns it, but that’s much less true given the opposing scenario where any and every debased act is not only accepted, but lauded and praised.

@@thinkwithurdipstick There is a difference between mentioning human sex acts in the Bible and the science of sexual orientation. That latter is simply never mentioned Biblically and was never taught by any Biblical scholar for hundreds of years

@@thinkwithurdipstick As we grow more advanced as a society, and as we gain more information about human psychology, we have less and less need for religious superstitions surrounding certain sex acts which can actually be healthy and beneficial for the participants and the communities they live in. Gay marriage has already injected millions of dollars into the US economy. These tangible benefits outweigh any ancient homophobia, perceived or real.

@@theroguejester6412 you’re splitting hairs and being overly pedantic to the end that you’re missing the point. What do you think it means when the Bible calls sodomy an abomination? Do you think that a man can live with another man in a romantic relationship as long as they don’t stick each other in the bum bum? The text clearly condemns same sex relations in all their forms as depraved acts on par with bestiality and adultery, the fact that it doesn’t explicitly contain the words “the sexual orientation of homosexuality bad” doesn’t detract from the fact that it fully addresses and condemns it. The concept of same sex attraction was not foreign to people of the past, they were not in fact stupid. They were acutely aware of the existence of homosexuals, they understood the implications the scriptures had. Also what on earth is healthy about sodomy? The increased chance for the spread of STDs? The trauma it causes in an area of the body that was not designed for such a use? And how has gay marriage injected millions of dollars into the economy? Married couples get tax breaks, as do families, and economically speaking its presence is relatively neutral and insignificant, as is the mere amount of “millions” of dollars when discussing an economy that operates on the level of trillions (assuming we’re talking america). But at the end of the day, compromising morals for slight monetary gains, given they even exist at all, is exactly the issue america and many modern capitalist societies have, willing to sacrifice all tradition and heritage for a bigger bottom line. There are some things more valuable than money, and life is empty and vacuous without them.

👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 Well said

tik tok uni

A very pitiful one.

In the vid she said a progressive UMC.

The English "porn" is from the Greek πορνεία, which is porneia. So the word existed at that time and it's meaning carries into the 21st century.

No you just never actually wanted to change. It’s matter of being born again. You have to be willing to change yourself as well, not just for God to change you or trying to seek guidance from others to change. If you’re unwilling to be born again and love God more than yourself, then you’re the problem. But if you’re willing to be born again and change you’re heart for God then you can. Since child seems like theirs a root to the issue

@@cephasbethlehem5687 spoken like someone who doesn’t understand something at the heart. Yes, childhood traumas from adult abuse in the church. How could one ever reason that this is what someone choose from childhood? I walk a road less traveled, because I choose to know God’s love through the sacrifice of His Son, Yeshua! And I have chosen to follow him, instead of some impulse. But to say someone never wanted to change, is as compassionate as a Pharisee walking to the other side of the road to avoid getting his hands dirty, because he sees a leper along his path to worship.

Cyrus 453 I have been through similar experiences especially with Church interactions. The hypocrisy is stunning. You don’t have to prove yourself to anyone, least of all some random internet trolls. You are perfect and beautiful and wonderfully made just the way you are. ❤️

@@theroguejester6412 thank you!

I hear you, I see you, as a fellow sojourner on the same path but who is about 20 years behind you. My life verses are Jeremiah 2:13 and Isaiah 56:4-5. He alone is the fountain of living water and He has a memorial and a name for you better than a quiver of sons and daughters. Ask Him to fill you and satisfy you in a way that a counterfeit church or same-sex partner never could. Your steadfastness is encouraging to me. Thank you brother. It sounds like you're meant to be on mission, I don't necessarily mean a foreign one, I just mean as one perfectly equipped to reach those on the margins with the Gospel that the Pharasaical prosperity-blinded American church never could. Count this a joy, it's a beautiful calling. God bless you.

amen and awomen

Emanuel Cleaver II is a United Methodist pastor. What’s wrong with the Methodists leadership who don’t correct, rebuke, and exhort false teachers.

Ikr. She might try that lie also.

How do you know she got it wrong? What if you or Dr. Brown got it wrong? This teaching is used by every Christian denomination to denounce all the rest. How did you determine yours is correct?

What the hell are you still doing on facebook

@@jerrymccarthy5826 Whatcha mean man?

Facebook is an enemy of free speech An enemy of conservatives An enemy to ........................ Have you been watching Wake up

@@jerrymccarthy5826 Yes, pretty much all of big tech is to one extent or another. I don't think withdrawing our voices & opinions from these platforms will serve to help our cause though. When they ban me I'll have put out as much truth as I possibly can before hand.

Leave Catholicm if u are in it. The pope is an antichrist

@@kiwivalenz431 Kinda bigoted of you, don't you think? Like me saying all Protestants are not Christians for rejecting the church Jesus established, and for their doctrine being founded on Luther, an antisemite and corruptor of scripture ('alone'). Maybe we can both play nicer?

Does Leviticus in Spanish use the term “masculino” or “hombre” or something else?

@@theroguejester6412 It uses 'hombre', which means 'man'. And as for practicing gays not entering the kingdom (think you said you were gay in another post), neither will immorals (straight people doing their thing unmarried), adulterers, drunks, and so. So no need to feel singled out really.

silvakle Hombre is a mistranslation. The original Hebrew term in Leviticus 18:22, “zāḵār” simply means male. The age is linguistically ambiguous as this term is often used to refer to adult male slaves as well as male babies to be circumcised. For example, this same term is used in Genesis 17:12 referring to young eight-year-old boys. In context of pagan temple prostitution in which young boys would be made to engage in sex with older males along with the surrounding textual prohibitions against incest, a more nuanced reading of Leviticus 18:22 strongly suggests a condemnation of these practices specifically, not necessarily all same-sex activity universally.

There are many Biblical scholars who disagree with Dr. Brown’s interpretation. How much of their work have you researched and consumed?

The Rogue Jester Enough to know that they are false teachers.

Des A How did you determine that Dr. Brown is not a false teacher? Because he says stuff you agree with?

@@theroguejester6412 I mean the whole argument is based on what the text says, correct? Dr Brown has given extensive evidence on what the text explicitly says, correct? Put 2 and 2 together and you’ll find that the text prohibits homosexual relations, let go.

The Rogue Jester I agree with the Bible. I agree that the Hebrew actually says what it says about men laying with men... It’s not been disputed for 2000 years except now that LGBT activists have attacked at every angle. I’ll agree with the church Precedent rather than progressive, liberal false theories.

She isn’t lying, there are multiple articles and studies that support what she said so she is saying what she has learned and believes. Let’s not vilify people here, we are all imperfect and will never have 100% of the answers until Jesus returns

@@cassyvjlee5925 propagating misinformation makes you a spreader of falsehoods, whether you are aware of the fact that they aren’t true or not is irrelevant. The onus is on her to do her due diligence and learn the truth behind the matter, but she heard what she wanted to hear and that placated her, she cared not for the truth because the lie is what she wanted to hear. Spreading misinformation is itself already bad enough, but the fact that she is spreading falsities about the scripture makes it a whole other magnitude of evil.

We agree. I wish people would just say, "I don't want to surrender to God's will. I want to live my life my way!"

Funny, I don’t feel very loved being told that who and how I love is an abomination. Surely a loving god could do better

@@theroguejester6412 pedos and zoophiles can say the same thing doesn't make it right in God's eyes.

CrypticHeaven According to the American Psychological Association, sexual orientation refers to heterosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality - not paraphilias such as pedophilia. Paraphilias, as defined by the APA, are characterized by sexual urges or behaviors directed at non-consenting persons or those unable to consent like children, or that involve another person’s psychological distress, injury, or death.

@@theroguejester6412 the American Psychological Association doesn't trump God's Word regarding what is morally acceptable or unacceptable.

CrypticHeaven Please don’t confuse your homophobic interpretation of God’s word with God’s word. Historically, the Bible has been used to oppress women and people of color. But that interpretation shifted AFTER these groups started marching for their rights. I predict a similar shift in perspective is already happening in countries that accept same-sex marriages.

Sounds like the makings of a No True Scotsman fallacy: “Since I am a Christian, no TRUE Christian would ever believe something contrary to what I believe.” There are multiple Christian denominations, all professing a fullness of truth, all with varying Biblical interpretations. Be careful you don’t condemn your other Christian neighbors in your zeal to condemn gay people.

@@theroguejester6412 I appreciate the comment, but you heavily strawmanned me and added hidden meaning to my comment. I didn't condemn anyone with what I said. I was thankful Michael made this video to refute this unbiblical viewpoint. Your concerns are appreciated, but unnecessary.

Daniel Hartness Unbiblical? Not according to the following Christian denominations which affirm same-sex relationships: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations_affirming_LGBT

@@theroguejester6412 Then with all due respect, I can accuse you of the same No True Scotsman fallacy if that's the depth of your reasoning. The only things I must cite are just equal and opposite denominational sources of your own, simply starting with this video and going from there. Hopefully and eventually, we'd get to the real argument and cease with the circularity, but that would depend solely on you.

@@deadeyeridge Ok fine, here’s a real argument: The principle of loving others as yourself supersedes all 613 laws of Leviticus according to Jesus himself in Romans 13:9. If you apply different standards and rules to me and other gay people than you apply to yourself, you violate the entire law.

Romans 2:1 and Matthew 7:5 seem appropriate here.

Jesus condemned the self-righteous legalism of the Pharisees who missed the spirit of the law. Jesus broke the Sabbath law to harvest grain and feed his followers, proving to us that one doesn’t always need to follow the exact letter of Biblical law to honor its spirit. Romans 13:9-10 The commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not covet," and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no harm to a neighbor, therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. If you are causing immense harm to your neighbor by driving them to self harm or suicide, then you probably aren’t loving them correctly. In fact, you actively prevent them from loving themselves, making it impossible for them to live and love as Paul wrote. And whatever commands the Bible may contain, all of them are fulfilled in love whether or not one follows the exact letter of the law. So, just like the Gentiles who didn’t have to follow the law that they must be circumcised to join the Church, a loving same-sex couple that does not harm each other or anyone else can also fulfill the entirety of the law according to Romans 13.

@@theroguejester6412 Love never competes with holiness. You suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

CrypticHeaven Love never competes with holiness? Jesus worked on the Sabbath out of love for his followers in front of the “holy”Pharisees and was killed for his so-called “heresy.” The Gospel tells a story of someone preaching radical compassion to an audience of self-righteous religious legalists. Who are you in this story?

@@theroguejester6412 My conviction is based on the fact that God's Word is oppressive to the flesh. Christ said deny yourself & take up your cross, Gal 5:24 says "And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." Stop attempting to justify the lusts of your sinful flesh and ask God to cleanse you from your sin.

Except the original Hebrew term “zāḵār” simply means male. The age is linguistically ambiguous as this term is often used to refer to adult male slaves as well as male babies to be circumcised. For example, this same term is used in Genesis 17:12 referring to young eight-year-old boys. In context of pagan temple prostitution in which young boys would be made to engage in sex with older males along with the surrounding textual prohibitions against incest, a more nuanced reading of the text strongly suggests a condemnation of these practices specifically, not necessarily all same-sex activity universally.

@@theroguejester6412 when you say that the term is often used for male slaves and babies do you mean the German translations or the original Hebrew?

I don't know of any literature stating that, but maybe I can explain it this way. Just think, all humans are born with corrupt blood. With that said, because we all are born sinful nature, we have so many sinful things passed down through our blood, starting from Adam and Eve.There are things that can be taught from parents to their children, racism being one of them, because children wouldn't know how to discriminate on their on, and this is not from the blood. I believe that you can be born having that same sex attraction but where it becomes a sin is when you act on those feelings. Its no different from fornication or adultery, these all are sexual sins. They only become relevant to you whenever you act on those feelings. God knows us, and He knows what we will struggle with, and that becomes the hard part. I don't know if that helps, but I tried.🙏🏾

@@antoinette6465 thank you Antoinette 💗

My OPINION could possibly be because they have been addi g hormones to our food sources for a long long time. Milk especially. Female cows are given estrogen so they will produce milk without calving. We give our babies & children milk from a very young age.

Honestly not sure which side you’re talking about 😂

She literally begins the video by stating her credentials. She has a Masters of divinity. Did you miss that part?

@@theroguejester6412 I guess I missed that, however, I always believed that having any credentials given by man is not worth anything. And she is clearly as wrong about this subject that I've ever seen anyone could be, so twisted and distorted concerning the word of God, her knowledge seems to be worth nothing.

Chris Mauzy So her credentials aren’t worth anything, but Dr. Brown’s credentials are? How did you determine his homophobic interpretation is correct?

@@theroguejester6412 The example of a correct relationship between a man and a woman is found in the book of Genesis, Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. For your information, the first two Humans created by God were Adam, a man, God saw that this man was not complete without a counterpart, so he put Adam to sleep, took his rib, and made woman out of his rib. Adam and Eve is the biblical model God set forth. God sets examples, and reinforces these examples with the text. Very clear, very precise, NOT homophobic, as God created all men, he is certainly not scared of men who identify as homosexuals. It is absurd to think God is afraid of anything.

@@theroguejester6412 It should be noted that Dr Michael Brown actually has degrees in language studies. This is actually relevant to his argument, as the woman who has a masters in divinity does not have a degree concerning those languages, or else she would have stated so. A divinity degree is much more abstract than a degree that specifies exactly what is studied, so that is another reason I believe Michael Brown, but not only, as I read through the original text as well, so it is plain and clear to me that the Word of God is the Word of God. He is Holy, and expects His people to walk Holy as He walked, that doesn't mean we don't sin every once in a while, but those who are true to Him repent and move forward daily. Jesus is love, and He loves all who call themselves homosexuals and desires that all mankind be saved! When we become believers in Jesus, He gives us the power to break all sin and the desire to sin off of our lives! And that also includes homosexual desires. If you need proof of this, just search deliverance ministry bob Larsons, hungry generation deliverance, google those and watch some videos. There was one deliverance in particular I witnessed of a demon named Baal that was cast out of a young woman, the demon said that it made this woman gay. I can link you the video if you want. 1985 - New York University, Ph.D., Near Eastern Languages and Literatures 1981 - New York University, M. A., Near Eastern Languages and Literatures 1977 - Queens College, B. A., Hebrew Language

He said sexual immorality refers to ALL acts of sexual kind outside of the covenant of marriage between man and woman. Whereas homosexuality solely refers to same sexual acts

@@veethebest9445 I got that but I want to know if there is a difference between sexual immorality and adultery because they came one after the other. Is it redundancy or is there a different between them

Adultery is lying with someone else or in other words being unfaithful to your spouse while you both are married

Not with your spouse

Cephas Bethlehem Isn’t sex supposed to be procreative though? At least according to a Christian anthropology?

@@theroguejester6412 exactly my point

@@cephasbethlehem5687 If oral sex is fine with a spouse what about anal and what about bondage both with spouse? Where do you draw the line?

hugh graeme And if oral sex and anal sex are morally acceptable when straight couples do it, how do those non-procreative sex acts suddenly become immoral when gay people do them?

Daniel Qu Plato certainly recognizes that same sex acts occurred between men and boys, but he describes the ideal relationship as an erotically charged friendship between males, but without sexual contact. Plato speaks of erastes and eros, common Greek relationships between men and young boys. This pederasty is not equivalent to a consensual, egalitarian relationship today between partners of similar power, age and status. I do not advocate for sex with children. I don’t believe in harming children and this subject without a doubt delivers great harm to them because they are too young physically and mentally to engage in sexual intercouse. Pedophilia is something that has been a blight on humanity. I think it’s history and current status should be made known so society can deal with it effectively and protect it’s youth.

Dr. Brown would disagree, as he personally knows people delivered from same sex attraction. He's spoken about it on a number of occasions.

@@selderane Attraction or practice? Very different things. Bet Dr Brown himself will admit he's still and will always be an addict, meaning he will always have to fight/address his own addictive impulses. Every single "converted" gay I have heard admits the attraction itself never goes away, they only gain the strength not to endulge it.

@@el_killorcure You need to get out of the house more. There are many who have being delivered from both attraction and practice.

@@darkincognito3826 I'm very skeptical of such claims, for AA's sky high relapse rates would indicate it's a lifelong struggle (you can treat it, not cure it). Do you have such testimonies and evidence on hand to put here? So I can see them for myself.

@@el_killorcure check 'Novel hayes freedom from sexual impurity'. A man shares his testimony at the mid point of the video how his desire was changed.

The Hebrew word used in Lev. 18:22 is "zakar" meaning "male". It has no age distinction to mean, "boy". Therefore, it is disingenuous to limit the context of Lev 18:22 as pedophilia. If anything, zakar prohibits both adult "male" and child "male" sex as sin.

@@hotflash7486 In the context of pagan child temple prostitution by surrounding tribes, it makes sense to interpret this passage as a restriction on those fertility rituals involving older men and younger boys.

@@hotflash7486 Stiebert and Walsh in introducing the honor-shame model and theory concede that biblical texts are shaped by their social and cultural context. The underlying system of social values within which Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 must be construed is the gender construction of maleness in a society where honor and shame are fundamental social values. According to Stiebert and Walsh the honor and shame theory embodies a differentiation of masculinity and femininity. From the Mediterranean cultural point of view, masculinity is superior to femininity; hence it was regarded shameful and unholy for a man to act like a woman. Carden notes that a descriptively heterosexual male is defined as being the penetrator while the homosexual male is defined as being the penetrated one. This description contradicts the understanding of sexuality on the grounds of orientation.

@@hotflash7486 Olyan notes, in the context of Numbers 31:17, 18, 35; Judges 21:11, 12, the statement miskab zakar seems to be referring to vaginal penetration. The sexual dimension in miskab zakar and miskebe issa relates these statements to miskeb issa and describes the role of a woman during intercourse (to be penetrated) while miskab zakar describes that of a man (to penetrate). In the context of biblical law, the word "lie" is used to refer to the penetrating or insertive partner. The law in Leviticus 18:22 is directed to the insertive figure. The insertive figure also seems to be at fault because of the possibility that miskebe issa (as with a woman) could be interpreted as describing the man’s experience with a woman, in vaginal intercourse. The honor and shame theory seem to be reflected and the act of proving authority through assuming an insertive role is detected. Rejection of homosexuality cannot be based on the reference to the honor and shame theory

@@theroguejester6412 No. The only assumption must reside from the word given-zakar (male) Again, to imply the only interpretation is boy is to ignore the definition of the word's meaning "male". We must take the word WITH its meaning. Therefore, we MUST conclude it is a clear condemnation of "male/male sex" . Which could mean adult or child NOT exlusively child.

Actually, the lady was being disingenuous because she knew same sex behavior was classified as abomination in Lev. 18:22. This verse is thousands of years old. So, while the word, "homosexual" is relatively new, the concept has always existed. She simply tried to use verbal "smoke and mirrors" to dismiss same sex behavior as sin.

I think you just have a comprehension problem. Not trying to be rude.

@@hotflash7486 Your really stretching the implication of Lev. 18:22, which reads in KJV: "You must not lie with a man as with a woman; that is an abomination." I'd interpret that as speaking of sodomy only. Not "all sexual behavior." Ro. 14 "But let every man be convinced in his own mind. Hast thou faith, have it to yourself. Some only eat herbs, others eat meat." and all other such verses. I know how Christians generally are. Immature for sure. They like to condemn others and exalt themselves as being more holy than thou. By the way, whatever happened to "greet one another with a Holy Kiss." Which Judas did, betraying Christ, but it was the practice to great one another with a kiss. Even men. Seems like the Christian religion became way to "strait laced" as they say.