The difference was... That stuff was still GOOD MUSIC not some goof ball bull crap. As the other person said... Thats what it was all about to begin with, there's nothing wrong with that but it still gotta be GOOD MUSIC, this *hit was not.
The ATL rap scene dumbed down hip hop. Not all rappers from the south did this, but a good amount of them did. And D4L wasn’t the only ones in the mid late 2000s.
Being from the South, it used to hurt to hear East coast guys hating on southern rappers. In hindsight, I can truly say that alot of the music coming out then was made with no effort. These guys were even bragging about how fast they could make a song or album.
@@Jralls3 yeah I’m not saying the music is bad by any means, shit in high school we was all leaning and rocking, cranking the Soulja boy, doing the stanky leg, etc. The problem is that the music aged like milk, and the simple made dances and catchy songs rubbed hip hop heads, especially the other ones the wrong way. Looking at the music that’s out now, I would love to go back to 2006.
I used to be pissed off at this shit. Now when I hear “It’s Goin Down”, I still don’t like it, but it puts things into perspective. Shit can always get worse. I haven’t listened to the radio since 2009 and I don’t hear any new music unless it’s something I deliberately look for. I’ve accepted that idiots have taken over hip-hop, it’s better for my mental health to just block it out and only check for what I like.
@@JM1993951yup the game has been dumbed down and a lot of dudes nowadays have no real love or respect for the art form it's all about clout and tryin to get a check it is what it is
I lived in Florida at the time when this album came out. And I was working at this hood car wash. I was the only white boy aside from the owners, and the guys that worked there clowned me for playing Jay-Z meanwhile they constantly played this album and Jeezy. But it opened my eyes to other artist. I’m from Md where we was heavily influenced by Jay, Dipset , and rappers from Philly. It was a great time
I agree I'm from Bmore you are a 💯 percent right.... Biggie Pac Jay-Z Nas Mob Deep The Firm The Fugees Dippppp Set 50cent for damn sho....The next thing I know everything switched from the NY scene to strictly the south now OutKast was hard Tip lil flip shid 3 6 mafia UGK them men did there sh#t...Then these dance dudes took it down 👇 real feminine goofy like...Now look at Rap today half the generation can't speak fluent and it's the dumbest ish you ever heard...
@@808sirenz9 where at in Md?? I’m born n raised in Md. and you ain’t wrong about that. We was heavily influenced by Harlem. We dressed like Dip-Set, and Philly. G-Unit had its influenced on us as well. But Md. is much further north then Florida. It was a culture shock for me because I’m used to listening to New Yorkers and Philly, but moving down there where they played UGK, Jeezy, D4L, T.I. Was the king down there, Trick Daddy. They wasn’t feeling that Diplomats, Roc a Fella music at all
This was the beginning of the end. I seen what NAS was saying. Everything was dumbed down after this. I was rockin wit Jadakiss,50,nas,em,busta,DMX, and outkast.
Hip Hop died once capitalism was allowed in the room, and talented black artist started working for corporations; while giving up their publishing and master copyrights.That started in the 1980s not the early 2000s.
The south hip hop wise was creating a lot of mediocre and talentless music. They were releasing any type of trash and calling it talent, when it wasn't even good. Most of Southern hip hop music has not aged well at all, especially when you go back and listen to it. The West Coast, Midwest, and East Coast aged well musically. 😂
I will never forget this record. When this came out the Nextel chirp phones were the ish. My boy played that ish over the PA system in the supermarket we worked in for like 10 seconds. They caught him on camera and he got suspended for a few days 😅😅😅
Nah, 'Snap Music' had a right to exist, and did not kill anything. It's not about the music, it's about the people who support it or don't. Perhaps we need to be realistic and examine if "Gangster Rap" killed/damaged rap music. It lives on today as "Drill", which has these dudes out here acting like DEMONS. How Black men are out here at each other throats mystifies me. You didn't see The Beatles beefing with The Rolling Stones, but with us we make music stating how we want to kill. To make matters worse, all our musical violence has done nothing but enrich a race who HATES US.
To just summed it up , D4L stunted growth was they were one album one group wonder. They were on the scene for a pack of peanuts but left a time bookmark in that time of hip hop
1) Viacom ownership was split in 2005 , starting with BET having a meeting in 2003-04 about changing the direction of black music and no longer decided to play Neo Soul , and any outdated acts in hip-hop . This was to ensure ROI by making catchier music . There is NO LONGER evidence of this meeting taking place, as it's ERASED from google history, but you can find about the Viacom’s sale in 2005 and there is an unaired episode of Boondocks depicting Debra Lee as Dr. Evil and their plan to eradicate black music 2) Dem Franchise Boyz “White Tee” was the start and Soulja Boy was the catalyst into transition
Exactly 👏🏽 💯. They were definitely happy to let d4l & the rest of the mindless music take over, they're was even a kid group out called " mindless behavior " at that time & that was no accident. Music that promoted intelligence or self love was deemed " boring ". So called fun " Music " like Laffy taffy which paved the way for w.a.p & the off beat kiddie sounding "rap" garbage we hear today. I'm glad folks pushed bk on that b.s I wish people had enough guts to do that with the mess that's out now.
Yup! Early 90s it seems like they had a conversation also and shifted the change same like what you’re saying in 2003. When you look back you can clearly tell something happened. A shift change.
At least old school from the 80s, 90s, and 2000s will. This newer stuff will be forgotten by next month when it releases, sometimes next week after it's first release. 😂
2005 was the most complicated year for Hip-hop because Atlanta dominated the music scene with Jeezy and Gucci Mane, and then Houston was planting their flag with the release of Paul wall and Mike Jones album. And then Lil Wayne came with tha Carter and then kept hitting us with mixtape after mixtape after mixtape with Gucci mane hitting us with a gang of mixtapes. Meanwhile, Little Brother, Nas and traditionalists MC were trying to stay relevant but saw their audiences shift to more ringtone-type music and dance. The shit was horrible and very complex. and let's not forget This was the era of Hip hop producers making money off blingtones.
@@ZYaKnoe249 True BUT! You gotta know after 03" NYC lost it's steam Atlanta, Memphis, New Orleans, and Houston was runnin shit by that time. Now 50 had g-unit, Camron had Dipset, Nas had his album that year.... But when it came to who was hot back in 03"? It was 3'6 Mafia, Bone Crusher, lil scrappy, Youngbloodz, Lil Jon , Big Tymers and Lil flip 1998-Early 2000's it WAS Ruff Ryders, No Limit, Roc-A-Fella and Murder INK! After 03' wasn't nobody messing with the East like that, maybe a handful of Artists like Jay-z, Nas and 50, and Dipset and Some times Fabolous) But 2004 and on.... Nothin BUT A-Town shit, remember when Oukast dropped their last album that solidified the South and soon after 2005 Tip, Gucci and Jeezy came up out da south killing everyone. The Game was the last saving grace of West coast music by that time The West had already lost steam too! the only thing saving the west after 2005 was... Snoop! All the hype on MTV2, AND BET went directly to Atlanta-based artists after 04" They were playing nothing but Jeezy and Tip music videos.
I personally never liked snap southern rap. Im not suprised that this didn't last. When something doesn't have substance it typically doesn't survive. But for better or worse I belived it payed the way for mumble rap artist of today.
Was Laffy Taffy really considered Hip-hop LOL I always put that song in the same category as Whoomp(There it is) and Chicken Noodle Soup there's rapping but it's more novelty songs
@@DesignzRUs Designz R us there's a big difference between what was happening here in NY back in the '70s and Laffy Taffy was dumb lyrics focused around a dance and ring tones sales like Teach me how to dougie the only part of early hip-hop for dancing really was the get down part & that was for the B-Boys I remember seeing Dj Flowers performing here in Brooklyn at prosepect Park back in 1983 when I was a kid some people danced most just stood around & listened to the Rap songs that Flowers was playing it wasn't alot.
Nas and Jay-Z was right. Hip Hop was dead. It didn't even have to do with ATL entirely since they were a part of the fabric of Hip Hop in the 90s. But they also contributed in killing it. I hated Laffy Taffy. With a passion back then. And still do. A terrible time in rap that led to the genre being dummed down immensely
No because even though they weren’t good musically, they weren’t relevant long enough to leave a lasting effect(bad or good). Hip hop always had silly trends just wait a year and it’s usually over, no reason to hate just wait. 🤷🏽♂️
"The South" didn't "dumb down" hip-hop. Commercial hip-hop dumbed it down. They did it with "The Sugarhill Gang", MC Hammer & others whom looked to go pop!
Also, talk about New York’s get lite era. Snap music had a powerful but short run. But it’s interesting how New York was against the ATL snap era at the time, but in 06 in NY there was the rise of Chicken Noodle Soup, 5,000 and all the get lite songs. I guess it’s fair to say that was more accepted
New York was against it because ATL was becoming the Hip Hop Mecca at that time & they were threatened. Omg & the first song was "Bet ya can't do it like me"!😭
Naw, it's not fair to blame "The Crunk Movement" for the slowly demise of real hip hop. Hip Hop is dying due to white old rich farts found a way to profit off our culture by inverting the laws we.set for the culture. Turning great creative, fun, & conscious songs & making the wackiest records successful. Almost like "Get Down or Lay Down" type of vibe. Either you do it like this or you won't last.....we won't endorse you as an artist. You will not get heavy rotation on the radio, no concert dates, ultimately deactivate you .....good luck on your own....that's was the knife stuck hip hop in the heart ..... 🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤
New York was against it because ATL was becoming the Hip Hop Mecca at that time & they were threatened. Omg & the first song was "Bet ya can't do it like me"!😭
The Snap Era was ahead of its time!! It was Tik Tok music! I'm slowly realizing how grateful I am for growing up in the South. I went to high school from 04-08 & we were jamming!! We didn't even know anyone was against the Snap Era at the time. MySpace was all the social media we had. I have a special place in my heart for the Snap Era. Also, I swear "White Tee" came out before "Oh, I think they like me"
It was club music party music!! Didn’t nobody won’t to hear no damn lyrical music in the club! I’m the south we went to the club to have fun and party and dance
All this goofy southern stuff from the mid 2000"a was THE WORST. Wearing Grillz and sunglasses and Dreads... You see the current mumble rap dudes wearing the same shit to this day. EVERY body got dreads and EVERY body wear a bunch of gold.
