DID IT SUCK? - Doctor Who [SERIES 10 FINALE MEGA REVIEW] 

from someone who didn't follow any promotional trailers or news, the master unmasking was awesome

Am I the only one who knew that John Simm was coming but didn't relies that one guy was him. I mean its obvious now but at the time I didn't think about it.

One thing worth noting, The Doctor Falls was originally the last episode for both Capaldi and Moffat, with the Doctor set to regenerate unconscious in the TARDIS after his battle with the Cybermen. However Chibnall refused to start his tenure with a Christmas Special, so Moffat was forced to do a last minute rewrite so both The Doctor and Bill were alive for Twice Upon a Time. It's a shame really as I think without having to use the last ten/fifteen minutes to set up how these characters survive and instead using them to flesh out the stakes and threat of the Cybermen, then this could have been an excellent send off for Moffat and Twelve.

I think you've completely missed the point of the scene where Twelve explains his reasoning to the Master and Missy. He understands how futile his efforts are but he can't bring himself to run away. Both of them listen to him, that's plainly obvious from their faces, the Master only says he doesn't because that's the kind of person he is. Missy is even crying, showing she does care. It's the turning point of the character, from then on she wants to help, she doesn't change her mind later on, she was deceiving Simm's incarnation. It's pretty obvious if you think about it.

The fact that you complained about Capaldi's magnificent "Where I Stand" speech more than you complimented it is borderline unforgivable, tbh. The single best piece of dialogue in the entire season and once again you just snarked all over the mic in typical fashion.

For the record: I didn't realise Razor was the Master until he actually took the mask off at the end of the episode. And I knew he starred in it, as well.

Ok, I really enjoyed this...until 18:00 where I really think you either didn't understand the rationale of the Doctor Falls or just ignored it. The Doctor's speech was not "vague and amabiguous" it was blunt and assertive. He does what he does for the little people, whether it be saving the universe from a Dalek invasion or saving the lives of a few helpless villagers. It's an idealistic hopeless goal due to his circumstances, but he persists because it's the right thing to do. THAT is the point. The Masters didn't listen? Really? Were we watching the same episode because Simm's Master was looking down in barely suppressed emotion in one very pointed shot and Missy was fighting down tears the whole time. Two sides of the same coin, the Master is the callous world conquering asshole and Missy is the closest remnant of that old childhood friend who ran with the Doctor under the red skies of Gallifrey. The fact that she took the Doctor's hand yet rejects it for her own sake is a Classic Master move, one that prioritises self preservation over the hope that the Doctor would see things his/her way. Missy is the most amiable incarnation f the Master to date and half her plans involve converting the Doctor so considering that the original Delgado Master was set to sacrifice himself for the sake of the Doctor with almost no buildup, isn't it somewhat plausible that when faced with the possibility that the Doctor could be facing his final end, this incarnation would stand by him especially after he spent years trying to change her? The turning point comes at the scene when the Masters are escaping from the Cyberman where she sees an explosion, billowing the smoke she used to love seeing "pretty shapes" in and TURNS AWAY. Symbolically, this was executed flawlessly by Gomez as she betrays a distinct lack of interest in the chaos she once loved. No, Missy didn't turn good nor was the buildup in prior episodes well done, hence why I share your view that the beginning shoehorned it in. That doesn't change the fact that Missy stabbing the Master is one of the most pivotal moments in the Master's entire history as is Simm shooting her in the back. The worst and (relatively) best aspects of the Master exist in these two incarnations. Missy "miss[es]" being able to burn and hear the carnage she once wrought throughout the universe but kills her past self as a means of moving on and being at least partially the same person she once was. The answer to whether the Master could ever be good is not no, it is maybe. Missy still didn't care about the Mondasians (then again, neither did we) but she was moved by the Doctor's speech because of how utterly open it was and how it's possibly their most honest exchange since the days of Delgado. The development of Missy's arc was awful, but the denouement was flawless and their struggle, though merely the end point of a weak arc, was easily an amazing high. This all comes from someone who absolutely loathed the Doctor Falls so yeah, I think that most of your assertions are logical but your points regarding the Masters and the Doctor's speech in kindness almost seem liked they were written by a different person: someone who walked out of the room and founded these presumptions on a wikipedia summary.

I'm sorry but when he explained to Master and Missy why he was doing it was my favorite part. The fact that he was willing to die for a small group of people (who you're right- we didn't even know) because its the kind thing to do. That really got me. Thats the doctor we love.

You may have missed the point of the “because its kind” speech. For the Doctor who saves Sarah Janes son he doesnt even know from getting hit by a car or the whole of time and reality for the same reason. For him, at least at times, are kind of the same on an existential level.

I thought series 10 was a pretty solid series overall. There were a few clunkers but nothing awful. I quite enjoyed the finale especially.

Great episodes Harry gave a 4/10 . School Reunion . Heaven Sent . The Doctor Falls

The John Simm reveal actually worked for me because I managed to avoid all trailers and spoilers, it was so shocking!

For me I only realised that the guy was the master when he started to talk to missy, I knew the master was coming but for me the make up and the accent was enough that I couldn't tell

I think the whole point of the lead up to the “big battle against the cybermen” wasnt to raise the stakes and set up something epic. I believe the whole point was to illustrate the complete dispair of the situation and how hopeless it is. The script and the blue colour scheme examplify this.

Technically they are not Cybus Cybermen, since they evolved from the Mondasian Cybermen in the "proper" universe, and had nothing to do with Cybus Industries.

I see why you have slight issues with part two, kinda, you hate a lot of new who and are very negative but I can at least see where you are coming from. I do however think you may have overlooked somethings in the second part. For example the whole point was the Doctor couldn't save the day, all he could do was stop the Cybermen on the floor he was on, the others would have to prepare for them and take it from there, I just think you made a point about how this doesn't solve the problem, well yeh, that's the point of the story. Isn't it just nice to have a situation where we can't actually win? No Rose's coming to save the day, no Doctor Donna nothing, gives weight to the story and threat knowing not even the Doctor can hold it back permanently.

Good points, almost 100% agreement. Have to point out though that: 1. The Doctor explained why taking a last stand was the only real option: Because of the time dilation, trying to flee upwards would just give the Cybermen more time to evolve and they would be overrun before they could get there. 2. Actually, Missy *did* listen to the Doctor. The answer to "can she turn good?" was *yes* - she just got shot in the back before she could act on it.

wouldn't it have been much better if the cybermen came in waves. Like the mondas cybermen attack as the cybermen develop lower down, hours pass and now it's the cybus cybermen, a few minutes and now it's the s8 cybermen, adding to the urgency as the cybermen develop to be stronger, faster than the doctor can handle.

i find your doctor who reviews pretty funny and you have some good points, but honestly, I don't understand what you want?? sometimes I get it. but sometimes you just complain a lot.

I would've preferred it if he'd regenerated at the end of this one, so we had a Christmas episode to get to know Whittaker.

Did it suck? nope.

Harry logic: Hell Bent: 9/10 The doctor falls: 4/10 Lols One month later I've fixed the score haha.

The John Simm master reveal actually threw me for a loop because I hadn't actually seen any of the news. It was honestly a really satisfying experience lol

About the John Simm reveal, I had no idea it was coming and it was INCREDIBLE

What did bill and the doctor actually achieve this season Without the doctors influence Bill would have become a puddle person but due to his influence and Bill coming along •The Doctor died •Missy died •The Master died •Nardole will probably die eventually •Bills a puddle person So because bill came along everyone we loved dies.... thanks bill?

I thought this could’ve been one of the best possible endings for the show, sure it wasn’t perfect but the master kills missy basically killing himself which is such a cool concept and scene. Then you have the doctor dying after defeating a classic enemy. Then bill goes off into space with her girlfriend from the first episode. Everything resolved end the show there. But nope we got a shitty series 11 and probably more to come in the next few years.

I didn't know the mondas cybermen or John sim was coming back so I loved these 2 episodes

Ok, but WHY did the blue guy shoot bill in the first place?!? He knew the patients just wanted "the human" and didn't care about him. So what the hell was he so worried about, hm?

I read, somewhere, that Mofitt said that he felt the Companions should never die, which is why he pulls this crap and undoes their deaths or whatever. My whole thing is, if you want to say that fine, but don't kill them off, then undo it in some really stupid way just to keep them from actually dying.

nah. I watched these episodes like last night, and I hadn't followed any of the social media stuff, so I was genuinely surprised by those twists. I came to the slow realization that these were actually cybermen, and the moment the surgeon guy says "oh the pain? We have something for that now," and takes out the cyberman headpiece I was like OH MY GOD I WAS RIGHT HOLY SHIT and that was really exciting, just all the hints slowly clicking together. I also had no idea the guy that played The Master was coming back, and I didn't see it coming at all. I was fucking dumbfounded when I saw him. So, as far as those twists go, they work really well if it wasn't for everything having been teased and revealed so prominently before. I also like the stuff with Missy. I don't know why you don't understand her transformation. She clearly listened to the Doctor's little speech and was affected by it, just look at her reaction! She had been at a crisis of character the entire episode, there was some clear inner turmoil going on. As to her not seeing the betrayal coming... they say this every fucking time there's a crossover like this. When a timelord is sharing a timeline with an earlier regeneration, their memories get fucked up, Missy herself said that pretty sure. She just remembered bits and pieces of what happened. She didn't remember having been on the ship at all until The Master told her. The only thing I didn't like about these episodes is how they showed all the different evolutions of cybermen. That really took me out of it. Cause like, if this is supposed to be the "genesis" of the cybermen, that is, where they were first invented, then they would have gone into the universe after this whole thing was over, so it means they would have already made all the advances we see with their gradual change in appearance throughout the series. Why would they have looked like basically their prototype model when the doctor first encountered them? That's like sending a WWI tank to deal with a modern war, it just doesn't make sense.

Has anyone else noticed all of the politics references thrown into the 10th series that are completely cringe worthy?

There wouldn't even be a paradox anyway, the Doctor meets himself frequently, and there's no paradox, then again he does often forget about it.

7:14 I was fooled by the makeup. I knew he was coming back, but damn that mask had me fooled

Things that excite me fore series 11: -Jodie Whittaker as the first female doctor -3 companions that seem completely unique to one another which will hopefully add lots of interesting dynamics between different characters - NO FUCKING MOFFATT

The Masteres revel actually worked really well for me, because I barred off all information about the shot and never watch the "Next Time" Bits.

Harry I personally loved when Bill tries to pronounce her name one of the most human things is language having our own voice as everyone's is different the feeling I got from her saying her own name was that she was finally realizing what she had become her humanity stripped away. for me it really made the scene that much more dreadful.

I knew from the same moment as you when John simm was John simm. my sister, who also knew that he was to be in the finale, didn’t realise until moments before he revealed himself, thinking that razer was just a friend of the master so it was great seeing her reaction to the reveal and I can’t help thinking what might have been had it not been for the crappy marketing

“Like the last two Christmas specials” what how can you hate the Husbands of River Song

...but guys, guys! Did you know Bill is gay???

"Ironically killed, but not because of Missy" Well, technically she was...

I would give world enough and time a 9/10 and the doctor falls a 7/10

Harry: "nine years ago" me: "NINE YEARS AGO!?!!" Harry: "NINE YEARS AGO!?!?"

You gave the doctor falls a 4/10 but you gave Hell Bent a 9/10. What??

idk about u guys, but for me this is one of the best season finale in new who (of corse, season 4 finale is the first one for me). i think is just beautiful. Yeah, it has some important errors, but the doctor falls is just amazing and beautiful. The kindness speech, missy finally choosing to stand with the doctor but ended up killed... i just like to think the betrayal and the hoplessness of the situation and the doctor. He is defeated in this episode. i think this could be the end of doctor who, the doctor dying but still strong to his morals and beliefs, with his final act being a kind and noble one, at least trying to protect the people of the ship. But at the same time, a sad ending for him. Betrayed, defeated and alone (if bill wasn't there)

it was good until they revived bill and the pilot.

lol, somehow I completely forgot about the news of the antagonists of these episodes, so it was extremely entertaining for me, figuring out that the patients were actually cyber-men and it seemed completely out of left field suddenly seeing Jon Simm. I had a lot of fun with this episode.

I LOVE the Super Mario 64 level theme playing in the background of your videos

To be fair, I didn't know that either the Mondassian Cybermen were coming nor that John Simm was returning, so I didn't notice either of them until their respective reveals. That's not really a fault of anyone working on the show except the marketing department

Nice review of part one. I blocked myaelf from any spoiler intormation prior to watching, so i did get the full impact of the reveal of the mondasian cybermen, the master, etc. The reveal of Bill as a cyberman and her voice, which was an excellent replication of the voice of the first mondasian cybermen, really gave me the chills. The tear was also brilliantly done, as remark to future generations of the cybermen who have a tear engraved in their eyes...

Your channel is critically underrated and undersubscribed, loving this video so far!

Bit late but I've just clocked is that drum n bass in the background of your video ahahahaha sick

I think you don't give Missy enough credit. The progressive change is what makes her betrayal of herself? more powerful. The fact she is what causes her own regeneration is pretty wild.

20:38 since both Missy and The Master are together, it begins a paradox where once they depart from each other, they have no recollection of the event, a bit like in Day of the doctor.

I'd like to point out the lack of knowledge of the tag-along characters is probably on purpose. The focus of the episode is on the Doctor, Bill and Nardole. Three aliens trying to protect the Mondasians. It's been a running theme for all of 12, that he'll die to save anyone, but won't get to know them well. We don't know about the survivors because the heroes don't want to. They're like pets that need protecting, you'll cherish and care for them, but you won't learn their whole backstories.

If this were a classic series episode you know there'd be an episode about the people on the ship fighting the cybermen.

From watching your reviews of school reunion, heaven sent, and the doctor falls I see that you are hard to please

stopped watching Dr who mid way through Mat Smith's 2nd season, and only recently started looking into it again, and my god I completely loved this season especially after hearing all about how utterly terrible the writing and episodes are for seasons 11 and 12, I was delighted by every single episode, even the ones that weren't the best, were still very enjoyable Before watching season 10, all I thought about Bill was the whole "it speaks emoji" and I didn't think I'd like her character... But my god I was so wrong, she really is brilliant idk, personally I really enjoyed the final two episodes and even though there were slight issues or things I picked up here and there, I gotta say I disagree heavily with the 4/10 for the last episode, but still respect your opinion

As someone who studied Physics in university, when I realized that the episode uses time dilation as a plot device made me go YES. It's rare in science fiction for some reason.

love this review and love your channel. having a proper analysis of doctor who episodes i really appreciate.

i'm glad they cleared up why the cybus cybermen came back after RTDs era without the cybus symbol

13:55 The Doctor explains that it took a while for them to update the net.

The only problem with the finale is the Parallel Universe Cybermen’s actors.. I did not like. The main problem with it for me was how they did there arms. It is sort of accurate but if they were going for accuracy of those type of cybermen they would need to place their arms down lower. I know it’s nitpicking but I just have too much nostalgia for the first time we saw the Cybermen in the revival, which was the first time I saw Doctor Who

I'm wondering how much you pay attention to the show as all including the ending is explained very clearly

“Potentially be arrested” someone’s watching to much Peterson.

I found this season pretty solid through out. The monk storyline fizzled out faster than a sparkler underwater but the rest were above average to amazing. I’m going into season 11 with a healthy bout of skepticism but I’m still gonna tune in to see how our new show runner is gonna handle it.

I feel like the finale was 10x better for me just because I didn’t know anything that was going to happen, like nothing about the Cybermen or the Master

Seeing the classic valve-chest Cybermen brought back those amazing Dr. Who 60's childhood memories.

7:00 Dunno, I completely forgot about the Simm in this episode, because I was convinced that they won't show him in this one, or just in the last seconds of the episode. So yeah, final revelation was quite surprising and worked pretty well.

I kinda wish that we got a new type of cyberman during this episode because it's the perfect setup. You literally have cybermen that are constantly upgrading so why not just go beyond the current iteration to send off the doctor

The Doctor actually briefly explains why it took a while for the Cybermen to realize the digit change

18:14, probably for the same reason the Doctor didn’t have the Master locked up during the Claws of Axos. The situation is incredibly desperate and the Doctor needs all the help he can get, not only that but the Masters are stuck in the same boat as him and so have very little options as well.

I forgot the master was coming back so his reveal caught me by suprise

they did sort of explain why those people joined the ship the ship hadnt picked up the colonists yet they were all just the descendants of the rest of the crew

Wait, I thought Missy was meant to be the Master, as a woman, or regenerated, or-- oh no I've gone cross-eyed.

I only saw these episodes for the first time last night. And I think going in not knowing the old master was appearing definitely made the twists and reveals have much more impact. I did not see that reveal coming at all until he took the mask off

Over 2 years late but anyway, the "where I stand is where I fall" speech is the perfect button for Capaldi's Doctor, whose entire tenure essentially started with the question "am I a good man?" That speech is the culmination of his arc. He could run away to the upper levels, he could leave them, but with his ex-childhood best friend and her personified inner demons there along with a companion beyond rescuing, he realises that the good thing to do would be to stick it out and fight. It isn't a vague speech, it's the deepest look I think we've ever got into why the Doctor does what he does. It just took 12 a bit of time (and a hell of a lot of character development) to realise it I do agree with the whole thing about Bill's ending copying Clara's ending, though. I hated that

Then Part Two came along and pissed everything away. They brought Bill back through, basically, fairy magic. The Masters are pretty easily dispatched and basically, everything set up in the first part is not paid off well in the second, all in the name of a happy ending.

17:45 They never "joined" the ship; they're the descendants of the colony ship's original skeleton creww.

Missy should have said this: "hello, I'm a doctor."

13:27 Prepare for trouble, and make it double!

So, according to Moffat's dialogue for 11's last episode, 12 has used up three of his regens, so technically 13 is actually the 17th Doctor (11 being actually 13, 12 being actually 14, etc) and we only have 10 doctors left. I think.

Seeing the rating after Revolution of the Daleks: "Oh how wrong you are,"

Hate to imagine how disappointed you must have been with "Twice Upon a Time", after getting your hopes up over David Bradley as the first Doctor. :'(

I love your reviews and content, but I think that you totally missed the point with the Doctor Falls and that it is quite possibly one of the best episodes since Tenant. The point is that the doctor is coming to the end of his life and that the stakes are therefore small. It's a last stand, and he acknowledges it's futile but it doesn't matter to the doctor how many people there are to save, they're always worth saving.

i don't follow social media, so the master wasn't spoiled for me, and since i had no reason to suspect it, I really didn't see it coming whatsoever. It's not hard to avoid potential spoilery news about the show, so if you're complaining about being spoiled I feel like it's kind of your own fault. Just my 2 cents

14:13 Old Vet I met on the street: ME!

Would suggest Harry review this season in 2021. Rewatched it, appreciated everything alot more. Even the lowkey preachy billy shit.

I just believe doctor who is a show that is better told in multi episode stories (4x28min)as an example

Season 10 just sucked. The whole water girl thing just was too over powered. They completely forgot the master effectively redeemed himself and sort of achieved sanity when last we saw him. He, after all, SAVED the doctor at that point. I'm tempted to just pretend the series ended with River's Husbands and be done with it.

I was, thankfully, too dense to catch on that it was the Master. So from the POV of someone who didn't know it was coming: it was an _incredible_ twist. I might have also forgotten Simms was coming back, though.

Another thing about the line "Genesis of the Cybermen" is that it was a rejected episode idea for the fifth Doctor, probably after seeing the popularity of Genesis of the Daleks which is considered the best Doctor Who episode and add an iconic episode for Peter Davidson so I'm guessing it's probably a nod to that since it's also an inspiration for the famous Spare Parts which we all know inspired the series 2 Cybermen introduction two parter and this two parter.

I deeply enjoyed the second part, there were payoffs from as back as series 8 and it was so poetic. For instance, the theme of the season is no reward, no witness, no hope. This bit is really unclear, unless you think about it: -no reward is the doctor being unable to save all the people all the time and struggling to do the right thing, even if pointless; -no witnesses is Missy, redeeming herself, but to her own standards and unseen by anyone; -no hope (the big one) is Bill. The Doctor tells her "until there's tear (emotions) there's hope" (reference to the third doctor's "a tear, sarah jane? Don't you know until there's life there's...", btw), but when he falls, she is hopeless. Pay attention to the shot: she doesn't cry in either form, because she's almost gone. But without emotions, she still has love because, call back to s8 "love is not an emotion, love is a promise" and Heather comes to get her. Now, I see how she can be forgotten, but this is actually reinforced by their flashback that says "promise you won't leave?" "I promise" and one of them being a cyberman, definitely connects to Danny Pink

Thought I was watching IHE

Honestly, I wish Bill's Cyberman was the second or third to last Classic Who Cyberman instead of the original

World enough and time 12/10 The doctor falls 3/10

Ms. Missy and Mr. Master is brilliant. Using that now. Thanks.

20:24 no you wouldn't

I thought it was just my TV messing up, didn't know it was a Scotland wide phenomenon

Actually the doctor and company at the top of the ship near the black hole were effected by the time dialation. The closer you are to the black hole the more you slow down. The bottom of the ship, moving fast, was at normal speed.