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35 plus years ago when I saw this movie I saw the part was James woods shot his self in the head and fell into the garbage truck and he got ate up by the Blades . I’m 100% positive that was on the movie I Seen.
I saw this movie for the first time on Netflix maybe a year or so ago. Good flick I was hooked from the first 10 minutes I think he just threw himself in the the garbage truck
The fact that noodles never heard of senator bailey or seen an image of him on the news or newspapers to recognize that it was max all along, adds even more weight to the dream theory imo .
@@daveyboy_ what I mean is that he never seen a picture of him on the tv or in the newspapers also how did fat moe not know that his sister was with max?
@@dillonwalshpvd The movie was horrible, so horrible it was regarded as the worst movie ever, so you can argue it was good at being bad, not just that it was the best at being bad, which could therefore mean it's a masterpiece at being horrendous
yes dillon is mocking someone's loose definiton of "masterpiece". if using that loose definition, it equally applies to The Room. of course The Room is infamous and not a masterpiece. so OP's definition isn't very accurate. @@V---L
I can't imagine how confusing the original edit must have been for audiences or how upsetting it must been for everyone involved to see a masterpiece butchered.
Two facts I do know. Firstly, the scene was something of a reference to a real event, where some politician or businessman (can't remember who exactly, Jimmy Hoffa!?) disappeared, and on the day it happened a garbage truck was mysteriously parked outside his home all day. Secondly, the actor who we see standing there is not James Woods - it was in fact a crew member or something. Sorry these facts are a bit shady, they're just from memory. I'm sure someone can give full details though. Personally, I reckon since Senator Bailey/Max asked Noodles to kill him, his suicide does make sense. But yeah I do think it was left deliberately ambiguous - hence not using James Woods. We also don't know whether he jumped in the back to kill himself, or maybe just got in the passenger door to escape. In real terms I suppose it actually makes more sense if he got in the passenger door - after all throwing yourself into into that grinding mechanism seems like a pointlessly painful way of committing suicide, whereas sneaking off in a garbage truck seems like a pretty conspicuous way of disappearing. But this is a film, and symbolism is far more important than logic - and a man killing himself by jumping in the back of a garbage truck is pretty meaningful. There's also some symbolic significance in the way the headlights change and suddenly there's a car full of partying youngsters coming the other way - kind of an out-with-the-old, in-with-the-new thing. I'd say this is by far the most surreal scene in the whole film.
@Tusc9969 I'm glad someone wrote about the escape possibility (it may have, hm, escaped me, but is it even mentioned in the video here?) Also, what i'm not finding in the first few comments i've just scrolled, is that Max going into clandestinity, albeit rather old, is a sort of simmetry/karma/retribution to what Noddles had to undergo. Btw, i haven't looked for the joe pesci cameo in the hospital (when the union man is recovering from the shot)... and whether he actually had agreed with Max to take out the Detroit diamond man (back then - or was it hinted/shown, in those scenes) or this is a comeback of revenge, or doesn't care anymore, because times have changed and they're into an altogether different business. I've just watched the extended cut on tv in Italy, it's good it does raise doubts and questions and food for thought. However, call me simplistic or worse (fine :D) but it all sounds bit too brainy and complicated... i can tell you, i've done literature studies and stuff, love cinema, did watch most or all Leone's works, just saying i'm nerdy enough to appreciate even heavy bits i guess! But this movie here, just sounds a bit too built-up in the plot. Or yeah, made more sense as the original idea of 2 parts or, i'd say, an actual series, yeah. These are all really just questions, thank you :)
There isn’t much I wouldn’t do to see the full version of the movie as intended by Leone. This film just feels frustrating because although it is great, it could have been so much more.
So, from what I hear most of the footage is not retrievable. If the studio agreed to Leone’s original 2 movies at 3-hours each then ya, we’d see a lot more scenes. But we’ll never see all the footage he wanted to use for the ‘6 hour’ presentation. Same kind of deal with Kubrick’s ‘eyes wide shut’
@@MrOctober44 Don’t take it all so seriously it’s just a way of speaking. I wouldn’t do any of that I’m not crazy. I’d just really like to see the movie the way Leone wanted it to be seen.
@@LucLB01 lol he just doesn’t understand something called ‘a figure of speech’ He was trying to be clever but ended up just looking like a goof, hahaha.
Another point in support of the opium dream theory is that Max's son looks exactly like young Max... I know they used the same actor to drive home the point that Max survived and had a child, but it's a bit too on the nose
I think its just as likely Max just got in the passenger side of the truck, he's the master of faking his death. If he gave Noodles $1,million For him to do the hit, you know he had a couple of million to start a new life somewhere else.
Nah, max could see that noodles come to terms with max death a long time ago, the max who noodles loved and lost died with patsy and cockeye. Noodles always loved Deborah, but he knew Deborah would never forgive him.. it was enough for him to know that Deborah made the right choice by leaving him to pursue her acting career.
The garbage truck is real - at this point in the narrative, Noodles has woken up and has been found by the assassins. He's still intoxicated enough so that he's still partly in the dream, but also returning to the 1930s. The door he walks out of isnt at Bailey's house, but at the opium den. That isn’t Max or 1 of his men, but 1 of the gangsters looking for Noodles. The 1930s car signals that Noodles has "returned" to his time, and it's his body that ends up in the garbage truck.
in a deleted scene when the elderly noodles is walking around the neighbourhood there is an old building being torn down and the workers are throwing debris in to a shredder and noodles is mesmorized looking in to it. it mirrors the dump truck's shredder plus there is asian writing on the dump truck which is a nod to the opium den where noodle's inagination is concocting the entire story.
I just watched this film yesterday(… 🎶) and I think there’s an interesting parallel to the garbage truck scene and the scene where Max and Noodles first meet. In this scene, Noodles was trying to “roll a drunk” unseen, behind the cover of an oncoming wagon but was thwarted by Max. In the end, Noodles thwarts Max’s plans of how things should end and Max disappears himself behind the oncoming garbage truck.
4 other members of their gang. You forgot Dominic. Who's murder by Buggsy, was avenged by Noodles. Then Noodles got pinched for stabbing a cop in the same incident. This is very important for the Noodles character arc. Which was brought to the audience's attention later on in the film when Noodles mentioned Domimnic's last words "I slipped ".
Definitely a dream sequence. Leone and company knew they were being surreal to imply it's a dream. It adds an endless amount of possible discussions and debates over the meaning of every scene of the film.
Then explain how Noodles, being able to visualize cars, fashion and culture of the future, when he have never seen it, the mind can't visualize what have never been seen. If anything, people back then had a totally different view on where society would look like in the future, similar to how we do that today based on current trends. Hence for it to be a dream, the mind has to visualize familiarity, we would have seen a different world.
I watched for the first time too by my father's indication. He watched when it was at the cinema in the 80s, we have completely different views about the movie. For example: he thinks Deborah was a cheater and manipulated Noodles since the beggning and i think she liked him but choose to persue her career. Most of all the movie gave me more questions than answers😂
@@purplepink139 I feel the same way about her. She knew it was noodles that she was with but she saw/assumed the influence that Max had over the group and positioned herself to align with Max.
I think it was like the scene where they fell into the water , cus if you look underneath the Garbage truck when it's driving , you see Max running up to the side of it . And if he did jump in the back that would be messy .
When discussing this I have a clear memory of that there WAS one or two traces of blood (or somethng else that was red in color)shown after the truck, in the movie-after that the sound from the truck also had suddeny changed. My impression has been that probably the script writer wanted it to look like Max jumped in. Does anyone more than I remember the rather thin red trace on the road? It was a long time since I saw the movie, but Istill recall this detail.
this film is great, something like the sopranos or Goodfellas you still like the mobsters no matter how depraved they get, but this film shows how ugly it really is and doesn't make it look attractive at all
I am glad you guys liked this movie so much, the music and casting (how beautiful was young Jennifer Connelly and how great of an actor was Scott Tyler who played young Noodles!) was amazing but I was terribly disappointed. Never once in his life does Noodles make an actual decision. Like young Deborah says, he's just a two-bit punk who follows his mommy (Max) around like he's a little boy without the power to make his own decisions. He never fully decides to commit to Max and his schemes and he never fully decides to pursue Deborah and do what is necessary to be worthy of her. So, in the end, he loses both of them and his life is one big regret. I am trying to think of any character in this movie who ends up happy and content with their life, and I'm coming up short.......?...... I agree with the presenter of this movie that whether or not Max kills himself in the end is completely irrelevant. The story itself dies of its own inadequacies. I think the movie could have been partially salvaged if Noodles had taken his million dollars and spent the rest of his life making things up to Deborah, but of course, that doesn't happen............ Again, like Deborah said, "he will never be my beloved, what a shame." The smartest person in the entire movie was a twelve year old girl!
Noodle is a crime boss still. He knows about Max new identity all along. He has'nt seen Max, Deborah etc for all these years yeah, but he knows roughly their whereabouts. The garbage truck team is Noodle's own and yeah, he kills Max. Max wanted out by gunning, Noodle gave him a crushing in the back of the truck.
The opium dream does not hold up. Noodles dreamed what a 1964 Lincoln Continental looked like, dreamed television sets and all other items of modern society? Nooo, I don't think so. The point of the ending is this: Noodles is the only one who has come to peace with himself. Deborah has become a mediocre actress and a kept woman. No husband or real family of her own. Max has lived his life as a hood, always looking over his shoulder until it finally closed in on him. Noodles is the man at peace, who stopped "Living with a gun in his hand". Max was being watched and after Noodles told him to shove off and left, was killed by a hit man who got in the waiting garbage truck which was his getaway. This truck leaving exposing the rotating trash signifies that they were all trash.
Look at the garbage truck. There is standing 35 on it. Its 35 years between Noodles ran off in 1933 to 1968. Thats not a coincidence. So the truck represents something, like 35 years of noodles life.
Note the number on the truck and the seeming ghostly, bony hands. The number is 35, about the time prohibition ended. Then the fade to a 1930’s scene. Lends credence to the Opium dream theory.
Whichever way you look at the film's plot, both the real or the dream scenarios are masterfully done with the footage used in the proper form. In a rather large nutshell the easy plot line is that the film is about a guy who loved his gang (and the people he grew up with) so much that he was willing to do anything to help protect them and every time that a tragedy befell his gang (death of a member or Debora's leaving) and he just couldn't deal with the reality, he would turn to the opium den for escape. At the end of the 3 plus hour cut you see Noodles looking back (after what he assumes is Max's suicide) upon the night he originally thought Max and gang were gunned down. A beautiful scene to be sure but what if it were a dream for the reasons that have been mentioned in many talks about Sergio's gremlin-type, tounge in cheek way of dealing with his overly enthusiastic aduiences? That can be fun too. There were quite a few cuts of this film that had basterdized the ideas and ended up making the film even more confusing. The original VHS American trimmed down cut adds one small but maybe important tidbit to the dream scenario. Let's say the opening scene is real where the boys from Detroit are hunting down Noodles. Noodles goes to the opium pagoda and gets high to dream a happier ending to his life so far as his brain twists and turns what happened in the gang's life to fit a narrative he can come to terms with. The dream begins after he puffs up. The sounds of "God Bless America" are heard in the background for a bit and the dream is off and running. Move to the ending where Max runs out and jumps into the back of the garbage truck as it rides away. STOP. In the early American cut, as the truck pulls away we hear two gunshots and we see the usual back of the grinding gears and then a shot of Noodles watching as we also see, in the background a quick shot of a pagoda. (Opium den???) The truck's lights dissolve into a 30's post prohibition car coming the other way with "God Bless America" playing in the background. As Leone once said, "Maybe Noodles never got to leave the 1930's..." The gunshots make some sense but just how much sense, who really knows? Did this ending mean that as we see the pagoda and hear the shots and the song, Noodles life is drawing to a close because the boys from Detroit have found him? In that original (bad) cut the shots make perfect sense for the dream aspect but they never appeared again in any other cuts. Was it overlooked?
So let me get this straight. The possibility that a guy on the back of the truck with a gun with a silencer, putting two in his doom and throwing him in the truck is ludicrous. But Noodles dreaming 2 hours or more of this 4 hour movie isn't? Ok! Seems to me like Noodles wasn't alone in those opium dens. 😊
Have you ever heard about watching your life flash before your eyes? That can be 90 years if you’re 90 when you die. He’s not dead but he’s on opium going through only 2 hours worth of information quickly.
You don't mention the car loads of partiers driving through after the dump truck leaves, appearing to be celebrating the end of prohibition? As you mention in the other video; it suggests this was all a dream; and, his 1930's mind is trying to pull him back to reality in the opium den? I also think the smile at the very end is simply Robert De Niro himself laughing at us while we are trying to figure all this out!
Max was walking behind the trash truck and then disappeared so he jumped in. He knew he was a dead man and was serious about Noodles whacking him. Maybe there wasn't blood on the compactor blades because they were cleaned off as they rotated against the rest of the garbage by the time Noodles looked in. Why go through all that trouble to bring Noodles back to kill him and not die and just left things as they were and he wouldn't have been the wiser after all that time. Max owed him the money and the deed. An Opium high could not go into the future with so much detail as if he was a future reading gypsy. while high. LOL!
I always believed Max went into that garbage truck, though I was very young, and tended to take things at face value when I first watch this movie. If I were to rethink it, see it more as he played his final visual trick, and made you think he magically disappeared, perhaps getting crushed. Because it does seem choreographed a little too well.
I’m late but I like the concept of the dream theory and mainly that is because of Deborahs entire arch. He raped her that was the last time she seen him outside of the train scene and I do not believe she would even be that calm or allow him in her space alone like that even after those years. It worked out perfectly that she was with Max which makes no sense cause although they are similar in a lot of ways Deborah probably wouldn’t want anything to do with the men of her past especially so close to noodles. She always seemed like she was above it. Noodles and Max shared women the entirety of the movie butDeborah was off limits I can see in his subconscious him thinking Max was always in love with her that’s why they didn’t like each other and he would steal her as soon as he got the chance. She also was still young looking in the present day
I think that Max threw himself in there because he felt ashamed of what he had done - that he saw himself as garbage and thats where garbage belongs - in a garbage truck - but then again, if the whole thing was an opium dream, Noodles future and all of that, is it just Noodles’ mind trying to make sense of everything and trying to piece together the answer of who might have betrayed the gang, a way of trying to get closure for everything that he desperately sought with his trips the opium dens
A bit of trivia from the circle one biography by Christopher frayling, the actor going into the garbage truck a guy who looked close to James woods, in an effort to confuse audiences about who it was
He didnt jump in The people sent to kill him did. They arrived in a garbage truck and waited for him. People forget about the deck on the back of those trucks that two people ( the collectors ) ride on. He wanted Noodles to do it before they did. When Noodles refused, Max put on his coat walked out and waited patiently for the hit. They "collected" Max and tossed him in the compactor where he was crushed to death. Max didnt want to just vanish , or be remembered as a suicide ...both would be considered an admission of guilt. He wanted to be found murdered. He was sure that once Noodles found out how deeply he had been betrayed , he'd do it without hesitation. But Noodles gut instincts caused him to just walk away. The reason his old girl still looks young is because thats what he sees , he still loves her.
the real question is, who are the gangsters sent to kill Noodles? i don't think that they were sent by Max, in first place they was going to go to the chinesse theater cause Max could tell them, in second place, why torture Fat?
I agree. This is the biggest question of the movie. ‘Who sent the gangsters for Noodles’. Max knows that Noodles frequents the opium den. Besides, Max knocked Noodles out after Noodles dialed the police, so Max could have done whatever he wanted with Noodles. The only explanation I can think of is that the gangsters were sent to scare and hurt Noodles, not to kill him.
The truck is full of rubbish. It appears and explodes in another cut scene as it’s a metaphor. Noodles is in a pipe dream and the future he is living is actually rubbish. It’s untrue. A concoction to relieve himself of guilt. A throwaway repositioning of himself as victim. Rubbish.
I think noodles might of wanted that to happen seeing max come out but he then snapped back to reality reason for max disappearing after the passing truck likely the mind altering substance was taking a toll on him and noodles at the end scene using the substance was a way of him coping with all the drama hes been through like as if max was haunting him
And what about the scene where they drive off the pier and the boys are in the water screaming out for Noodles who doesn't appear (the way Max did when they were kids on the boat) but then it cuts to the 1968 garbage truck grinding away outside the gate in the day time?
Max was behind the last contract hit. He was giving Noodles the option to take revenge on his friends deaths for whom Max felt responsible. Noodles refuses to carry out the hit because he turned Max over to save his life in the first place putting his other friends lives in jeopardy to save Max; to kill him now would only be redundant. (I was actually waiting for Noodles to get wacked when he left the mansion). Throughout the movie whether Noodles was present or not on a job, the group always made sure he got his share. Even after he served prison time. In the end, Noodles walks away a free man and Max keeps his new identity. And that is why Noodles is smiling in the end because he still has the hit money paid by Max who faked his own death. They both walk away free men.
@@itsajahthing It doesn’t end in real time. The smiling DeNiro is still the younger Noodles. Nothing wrong with standing by your assessment, wrong or right.
@@jcsuperstar4646 Younger Noodles or not, the smile on his face was the realization that he had gotten over on the rival gangsters as did his best friend who was now state official. The garbage truck was either meant for Noodles or for his bestie but neither of them got whacked, so they were both free from the rival gangs!
@@itsajahthing The smile on his face was that he was high as fuck, nothing more. And he obviously didn’t get over on them because the money was gone. Stop making shit up
I think this is a reach to call this film a masterpiece, I found it overlong and quite underwhelming, a good film no doubt but a masterpiece, not even close. If you want a masterpiece then 'Once Upon a Time In The West' outshines this film in every aspect
Max is a serial con artist. He probably faked his death to others hence his new start and meeting with noodles. Max faked death in the sea with noodles. Then the fake federal reserve job. Then the garbage truck scene. Max moved on to new pastures. He was still alive. Noodles was a street hustler that's all. Noodles stay in prison was not mentioned in film. Which leads me to believe it was all a dream on Noodles.
It was clear that Max did not throw himself into the garbage truck because the camera zooms in on the open backend of the truck and we see no body parts, not even blood. It's Sergio Leone being the magician showing: no, not in the garbage truck. Where did Max go children? For most of my life, I didn't like the dream scenario but it is actually the one that makes the most sense after all we are shown in the film. It doesn't change how much I love this film so for any viewer in doubt I say it's fine whichever scenario one chooses. It is but cinema.
Noodles trow his past in that truck, as memories goes by everything is changed, town is changed and Noodles himself as well. Smile at the end by mine opinion is that Noodles got the last smile. And as I comment in different video about scene with his friend son is it that Noodles son named by Noodles only he see him like his friend when he was young.🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌 Noodles got the last smile rushed by euphoria caused by huge to be honest I can't take that much air in my longs 😂 But this is an underated masterpiece of music, acting, life from childhood till winter of their life. Changes is explaining with the song Yesterday, Noodles got back as changed person same as New York is, and when he figure out that, he went to China Town and just get high on life. Same if somreone try to explain what's in the suitcase in Pulp Fiction. It's only a guessing as mine is. Peace be with everyone 🤌🤌🤌✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️
I've only seen the shorter version so probably missed out on explicatory parts, but if Noodles time shown as an older man is all because of an opium induced dream he is in, or fantasy to cope with his guilty conscience; the loss of his best friends due to his handling; then who took the suitcase with the million box? In the so called realistic part of the movie one sees Noodles going to the locker finding the suitcase filled with newspapers. And in the so called dream-part it is Max who took it. And somewhere earlier in the movie Noodles said he thought Moe took it, but Moe never knew where the money was located, at least in the short version only the friends knew and except Noodles they died that evening in the police shoot out. So is the complete and restored version explaining this? The end part while the viewers noticing the Chinese building on the left, also feels like that the Garbage truck was there at night not only S an escape for Max, but also feels like it's there almost as to run over Noodles, who turns around noticing it wasn't there to run him over, and indeed giving the viewer a sense of relieve that he has moved on. Also one hears the same music in the end as in the beginning scene.
They never work for bugsy at any point on the movie. He's just the local gangster who had a grip on the area before noodles and co came through with their salt contraption..."you don't work for me u don't work for no one" "I don't like bosses" "Woulda been better if youd a stayed in the bronx" "Woulda been better for u too"
When Noodles and Max first met. Max saved that drunk elderly Man from Noodles and his gang. I think Max saved himself, and called it even between him and Noodles.
Cycles repeating themselves....Max knew Noodles would refuse. I wouldn't doubt that he set Noodles up again, and once AGAIN faked his own death. That smile at the end by Noodles though 😏. Genius ending, but HIGHLY perplexing. Great review and commentary 👍
13:20 thanks a lot to speak about that!!i thought i was alone to have seen that and i ve been so splitted about that.was it intentionaly from leone to let us think max leave with the truck??or it was just a mistake??i think it s a mistake,as you think,but it s still strange in my mind...Léone didnt see that?thats strange... Excuse my english im french. Thanks again for your video bro
Nah. All I'll say is it could be something the Director considered. But I speak from experience. You don't have nice clean dream hallucinations with opium. Sure, everything you LOOK at, everything you HEAR has got a pleasant "Everything's going to be alright" haze around it, but no, you don't create an alternate reality in your head.
Most probably his nick, "noodles" are a hint he is a bit soft in his head and that he do not have proper contact with reality, so yes, it was only all up in his head
If you watch good,you can see foot running after the truck,like someone go with the truck and leave. Sorry if its not so clear,im french. So maybe max leave,or more probably it s just an error from Léone
Here’s the real twist: One Upon A Time In America never happened. Noodles never existed. Max never was gangster and he wasn’t around in the 1930’s. The whole story takes place in 1984 and is just another one of Max’s Videodrome induced hallucinations. Did you think it was only a coincidence that both characters were named “Max”????
When the garbage truck passes, the rear lights turn into the headlights of an oncoming white car. The car is filled with young party-goers yelling and laughing in joy. The end is symbolic. David is meant to let it all go. It is all garbage that can serve him no further. The white car headed in the opposite direction symbolizes that it is time for David (Noodles) to move on with his life and make new memories that are positive. Max had thrown his life away in his pursuit of power. Max's overambitiousness had caught up to him. David has a chance to move on. The fact that Deborah aged very little is what baffled me the most. I think this is just a poor makeup design job by the film's production team. Deborah was well past her prime for film, but it was clear that she was doing stage theatre work and not film industry work, so she still had a career because stageplay is a little bit more forgiving when it comes to the ages of actors in certain roles.
So he got high on opium in the 30s and imagined perfectly well all the detail we would expect to see in the 1950s. that is dumb. the ending is poetically correct and makes sense - the dream hypothesis makes no sense
this is actually a good point, and Old Noodles is in 1968 so even more recent than the 50s. It assumes that he visualized a period-correct dream of what 1968 would look like 35 years prior to it happening. I don't know how much sense it makes to make all the 1968 scenes look like the actual late 60s if it is all a dream. For instance, look at all the extras and their clothes as he is walking down the street, as well as the frisbee scene...makes no sense....if it was more ambiguous I'd buy in more but it doesn't seem correct
@@seltzer30 the ending as it seems to be also reveals what happened to max and deborah. And would a dream be so rich in detail - conversation which all makes sense. Dreams under the influence of narcotics are more psychedelic - unreal - not so precise and making as much sense as this one does. and what about the soundtrack LOL - did Noodles compose that for his dream?
@@aerodrome4427 Sergio Leone wanted the future to be opium induced dream. The studio hated this idea since it didn't make any sense. That is why the studio made 2 hour version with an edited ending where Noodles hears the gunshot implying that Max committed suicide.
@@josephpendleton4927 sometimes directors get it wrong. I never even heard of this dream hypothesis until recently and have seen the film several times.
it’s the illuminated building that appears at 0:57 also at 1:07 in the background. I read about it (somewhere) and the writer said that it was such and such a building, so it had been chosen and lit up for the scene. I’m afraid I can’t find the source now.
Max wants to be shot by Noodles so his kid David does not have to have his name ruined and can live a normal (wealthy) life. If Max gets investigated and maybe Epsteined then David’s future is also ruined. So he asks Noodles to shoot him. In fact, he is setting Noodles up a second time which is why Noodles refuses to do it. It’s not a noble gesture to even the score, he just needs to hire some idiot to do it. He provoked Noodles into ratting them out first time around as part of his planned disappearance so he could leave NY, and restart with a false identity in California. With all the money he stole from the other 3.
I have to admit, I hated the start of the film with a passion. The ringing of the phone drove me to the point of insanity and the ending of the film was an extreme let down. Remove the beginning and the end and it was a "good film" but with it, its average.
💀..Ohhh man.., I spent at least an hour, rewinding, & rewatching that garbage truck scene, over & over, pausing, & meticulously searching for any blood, (cuz there WOULD have been. ..!!?), but ???, Soo, honestly, I conclude that 'twas MEANT 2b ambiguous, inconclusive..(albeit frustrating lol..)~Peace
I cant imagine hed jump into the back of that truck if he couldnt even fathom shooting himself. He either escaped on the truck or the opium theory is the right way and the clues are somewhere written on the truck.. it is a mack (max) truck
30 years ago I wss more native and i did not think people could be so ruthless and cruel but now I realize it from my own personal experiences and listening to others. I do not trust very easy. As a best friend James woods did everything to dinero but kill him. Ultimate betrayal!!!!. Other movie that demonstrates this is new Jack city with Wesley snipes being the ultimate gangster.
Remember in the beginning when max faked he drowned and noodles was trying to find him? That really happened. No way that max faked his death after noodles rats on his friends. I agree 100percent with your assessment. Noodles friends are gone. The opening scene is also part of the dream. His guilt that pretend mobsters are after him because he rats out his friends by giving a tip to the cops. His fate will be forever smoking opium and smiling; untill the million runs out. Remember woods saying we have a million put aside before noodles rats him out? Or Debra comes back and kills him for rape.A movie sequel should be done showing noodles getting what he deserves just for the shear fact he raped and destroyed his love interest after telling him she is not interested in his money or being on his leash she wants to make it on her own. A sequel on what really happened not any of his drug induced dream sequences.
