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Yes, yes you should. And I really liked the finale, it just felt a little rushed. I’m guessing that’s because the final season got shortened to three episodes though.
One thing that was kinda funny is how the gay ship was explicit and established early, while the straight ship (Huntlow) was something you kind of have to read between the lines for right until the end, and even then they don't get to come out and say "we're a thing." It's funny because it's typically the other way around.
I think amity while working as a librarian read a book about collectors magic being cancelled by titans magic so she theorised that the light magic from the titan can destroy the collectors magic
It’s not even an intentional thing. You find this happen a lot in straight ships, where as long as you have a boy and a girl it’s just presumed they’re fucking. Let’s not pretend like the fandom didn’t pull this with Hunter and Luz (Hunting Palismen, people started shipping Huntluz) and then with Amity and then willow. Happens every time. But then writers don’t bother to put effort into the relationship. Or they do but then it’s effort on how they can sabotage it or will-they/won’t-they.
@@peeblekitty5780 idk, I'd debate glimmer and bow along with mermista and Seahawks had more build up and chemistry than catradora. That's just my personal opinion though
@@justanotherperson3337 thanks. It makes sense to me. The rain just seemed to roll in as he was spinning his story about the curse. Then a single drop fell, hitting his hand, as if she was testing whether or not he was telling the truth. Once she saw he was still goopy, that's when she let them come down more, knowing that they wouldn't effect her. She didn't feel comfortable killing him herself, so she didn't. She let the ones he hurt, the Boiling Isles and it's residents, finish him off.
The entire Luz's "death" scene had me in tears. Especially when the Collector finally realized what death really means to mortals, and that he couldn't fix her when she "broke". You know the part where he asks "What is this stuff? Why won't it stop?" The first time seeing this, I thought he was talking about Belos' corruption blight, but I now I feel more like he was talking about his tears, as it's the first time he ever felt grief. Another example of the incredible writing on this show.
Yeah. We all knew it was a fakeout, but the thing is it doesn't matter; the realization that people die is still there, still inevitable, so you can feel the trauma of it. Even if you don't lose somebody now, you will, ultimately it is the end.
I just love how undignified his final death was. No cool lines, no going out in a fire of glory against the heroes strongest attack, no laughing at the face of death, no feelings of accomplishment, no any "In the end I actually won from a certain point of view afterall" BS and no sympathy. Just him getting stomped like the cocroach that he is.
I love that we can finally have an irredeemable villain instead of a tragic villain. Belos is a great villain, in the sense that he does the job of being a villain really well. It makes a callback to old disney movies (kinda ironic)
@@Magnustopheles yeah it reminded me of that death and also envy's death. Pathetic, shameless and just no words for such awful people. His character also sorta feels like it channels a bit of light yagami with his messeed up messiah complex and a bit like envy for being an inhuman shape shifter bent on genocide.
I like to think she left with the collector after realizing there was nothing left for her on the boiling isles and the collector agreed because he actually liked her pizza rolls.
The only thing I was a little frustrated about in the finale was we got like, zero closure about why Philip was seeing Caleb, or if he was ever really there. I would’ve loved to see some ghostly revenge from Caleb and his girlfriend.
I thought Luz staring him down was that closure, with the parallels drawn between her and Caleb, plus her expression and angle being the exact same. Whether or not Caleb was there in ghost or halucination form before, he was there in spirit trough Luz
How this show left it's characters is just perfect, just like the end of Amphibia. I'm really going to miss this series, and this story driven era of Disney Channel, but I'm so glad that it happened, and that I got to experience it. Thank you so much Dana, and everyone else involved. I'm glad she can move on from Disney and live her life now.
I think one of the core themes of Owl House is letting people find their own conclusions rather than imposing them, even when they are probably right. Luz might have been willing to save Belos. The problem was, even when he lost, he still tried to play himself as the vitcim and avoid accountability. Luz knew she couldnt help him until he was willing to help himself.
Luz's "death" genuinely caught me off guard. I knew it would be a fake out because it's disney, a kids cartoon and luz's story hadn't resolved. but simultaneously it was so early on in the episode that it felt like they could genuinely subvert the trope and kill luz off. Instead letting the other characters go through the grief and take down belos. Of course luz didn't die so the point is moot but still it had me genuinely freaking out for a hot minute
Agreed But hearing King’s genuine angry roar afterwards (and seeing tears in his eyes) and hearing the pure sadness and anger in Eda’s “Back up kid I don’t think I can control myself right now” was one of the most emotionally intense moments of the show as a whole.
When the Collector learned about kindness and forgiveness and immediately tried to apply the lesson to Belos, I actually stood up and started shouting "No!" at my tv. What cracked me up the most was when he cried and said "What is this stuff?" It reminded me of Booster in Super Mario RPG. I also really liked the death of Belos. Of course he tried to con them with the "You saved me from the curse, which is the real reason I did all those horrible things" tactic, and none of them were buying it.
I love that Belos isn’t hyped up to be this “all powerful being” like a lot of villains are (ie steven universe and gravity falls) and is just a more realistic dude who just knew how to manipulate vulnerable people. It makes it way more complex and enjoyable and relatable 😅
There's a level on which Belos's vulnerability makes him more despicable, too. Think about it: if you're a geniunely supreme being like White Diamond or the Collector, it's natural to struggle with the idea that these little ants around you are actually people with lives. So on some level, it's not their fault that they don't understand - they'd have to consciously learn to do things differently if they want to avoid hurting people with the collateral damage of their vast power. On some level, it's almost accidental. Compare this to Belos. Belos eventually learned the secrets of artificial magic from the Collector, but before that, he was just a guy. He spent hundreds of years manipulating people, gathering power, and transforming the world around him in order to meet his goal. That means that his evil deeds never came easy, and they never came fast - so he had to work for it every step of the way. And when you realize that he had hundreds of years to see the error of his ways, and that he explicitly decided to keep hurting and using people EVERY SINGLE TIME? That's proof of true malice, in a way that a cosmic superbeing could scarcely comprehend. Malice is about making a conscious choice to do the wrong thing - and Belos deliberately chose evil every day for hundreds of years. There is no redemption for him, and there never should be.
Something I find interesting is that when the Collector stops listening to what King is saying, Belos almost instantly distracts him by mentioning Luz is back. This makes me think he did this specifically to stop Collector from listening to the rest of King’s plan. It is still a misunderstanding trope but it is a good way of going about it in my opinion.
Good point. At that point, it's not just that he missed the important message - it's that Belos successfully manipulated him yet again. It does a good job making the plot twist less annoying by pinning it squarely on the villain.
I think Luz talking with the titan was not just a final hit home for forgiveness and your not a bad person. It made it clear cut that there is a difference in motive of Belos not actually wanting to save humanity despite his claim and how he's too deep in his own views and refuses to believe that he could be wrong all because he wants to be the hero in his story, while meanwhile Luz actually does want to help people and her questioning herself shows that at the end of the day she doesnt want to 'be the hero', but actually wants to what is right for everyone. Even though that distinction didnt needed to be made, I still felt it was meaningful.
Don't forget that Belos got into the people of the Boiling Isles' good graces by claiming he was in some way "chosen" by the Titan, whereas Luz here just casually gets pulled from the void of the multiverse by the Titan and given the last sparks of their power! Very good thematic rhyming and contrast at play.
I gota say- I am happy to hear your take on Belos considering just how much of the fandom seemed to completely miss the mark on that one- fandom has created for themselves this idea of Belos as a complexed villain when tbh he was as straightforward as it gets and I am glad the show didn't waste any time repeating all we could just infer from the background information. That and watching the gang stomp on a racist goo puddle was very satisfying.
I think its mainly due to how his voice actor called him misunderstood very early on, that maybe could have implied further depth. I personally enjoy Belos as commentary on the Puritanical Age of settlers that came, but I can't deny that I would have loved to see some more nuance I suppose, especially with the fact a good chunk of the show had to be cut.
How did anyone see this man as a complex villain? He is a witch hunter from the 1600s giver take. Except for burning women and nonconforming people, he got his ass isekaied and he then spent 400 years on a plan to kill the inhabitants of an entire planet.
He's certainly not 'complex' per say, but I saw a video diving deep into what makes him such a good villian. The parallel between him and his brother who grew up about identically, and then Caleb made the choice to change despite having grown up the exact same way Philip did. Philip refused to change. And he refuses to acknowledge anything he ever did as wrong. Everything he did was right, he's the hero in his own story, everyone but him is wrong. He killed his brother and time after time he'd kill his brothers look-alikes too if they were 'turned to evil'. He was 'saving' them from 'their sin'. He's not really complex in the traditional sense of there being all these different things that make him who he is because he's just a basic 1600's white puritan, but he's complex in a similar morbid way serial killers are. Not in a villain kind of way. He's a pretty basic villian otherwise. The addition of his brother who changed but he killed is what gives him layers.
Complexity isn't about people's morals. It's about their motivations and how they go about them. He could've just been a maniacal laughing, finger twiddling man in a suit at the top of a tower, but he wasn't. I mean, he was, but there was more to that. He was a con artist, cult leader, an actual fascist and not just being racist with guns. His schemes had layers, his victims had different interpretations to his treatment of them. Heck, him getting ready to leave after activating the draining spell might have been one of the most interesting decisions by a villain I've seen. It showed that this wasn't his life's work given form. It was a job. It wasn't a guy enjoying being evil. It was a guy committing acts of evil and then stuffing it so far in the back of his mind that it was as simple as clocking out. To me, as a person of color who has to know the history of colonialism to understand why things are the way they are, it was that that made him completely real. Slave owners and such weren't maniacally evil monsters. They were people who performed evil so meticulously that they could internalize it as a career. All the deaths just numbers. Belos perfectly captures that and exactly how pathetic it is that he can't even face the consequences, that he blames his victims for fighting back.
My only real gripes with this finale: A. Luz should've gotten to keep her Titan transformation (ala Eda's Harpy form) B. Amity should've gotten to SEE Luz's Titan transformation XD
My headcanon is that Amity does get to see Luz in her Titan form, either through Eda's or Raine's or King's memories or later through a similar pact with King after he grew up.
Luz's Titan form is a banger design, but from a writing standpoint, I'm very glad it was temporary. She has had this whole show-long arc of finding a way to do magic that no one else practiced, because magic didn't come naturally to her but she was passionate about it. Keeping the Titan powers and just being superhuman after all of that would blunt that whole arc (and the neurodivergence and disability parallels for which it allegorically stands). And that's a really important message! Human, no-innate-magic Luz is so important to her character and one of the central themes of the show and I was very happy when the Titan powers thing didn't backpedal on that.
The Collecter is an interesting antagonist, due to exactly how he described “toys being broken.” They don’t just say it is no big deal, but there is no consequences, and they can just be repaired easily. The Collector would have found out that it is not true if they ever actually killed anyone. Now of course there is the draining spell, although considering that Bellos the master manipulator is the one who got the spell from them, that is along the lines into being tricked, believing it to be effectively a harmless prank. Luz’s death mattered to The Collecter, but if they even killed anyone while doing the game they would still try to repair them and find it unsuccessful. The Collector isn’t misguided or malicious, but had a really bad assumption that was never tested.
Honestly I think the collector could under normal circumstances reverse death, its the fact Luz got killed by effectively a titan that really did it. Even then there is an intense difference between freedom Collector, and trapped Collector. The trapped one relished in breaking the toys, or seeing people screaming in agony, and was excited at the prospect
For how long the Collector and Belos knew each other, it sort of hits you that Belos "breaking" and "repairing "Caleb" over and over again only firmly reinforced the Collector's childlike viewpoint. Belos was a horrible influence on him.
@@lukeduran12 I remember reading somewhere that the theory behind the trapped Collector liking breaking things and people in agony was because he was copying Belos. He could see what Belos was all about based on the questions and conversations when they first met and in all the years after. The Collector played into all of this because he wanted to be free, but he didn't necessarily believe in any of it based on how he completely switches when he is freed.
9:10 it wasn't specifically the Light Glyph. It was Titan Magic. Not sure whether the team had realized Titan Magic interferes with Collector Magic yet, though.
I think it being a Light Glyph specifically is meant to be a callback to her name as well. Luz means light, Luz discovered the Light Glyph first and it’s a fun nod to how Amity has been learning her gfs language just as Luz had been learning the Titans language. It’s all connected babeyyy
Was it rushed? Yes. A little predictable? Yes. But did the creators do great with what they had? DEFINITELY!!! I think I can say from all the fandom that we are all so grateful and thankful for this show that pushed the boundaries of what could be shown on Disney. This show has changed so many peoples lives for the better, and we all feel so angry for some of the higher ups at Disney for cutting it short. However, despite the cancellation, we will never forget these characters and world. All of us will always be weirdos who always stick together!
Honestly? I like a predictable show. A show with a few twists is good, but the twists should be something a large enough community could predict, and ultimately I think I feel a lot safer in a show where the ultimate outcome is kinda already a given and I can just enjoy the characters and the journey. Especially in such a queer show; we're in enough stress and danger in real life, I want to see queer characters safe and happy, even if from their perspective that safety isn't a certainty.
I wouldn't say they did great with what they had... I hated Luz's whole character arc this season revolving around a mistake she made in a time travel episode.
The ending felt rushed, but that’s understandable considering the circumstances. And the fact that they delivered a really good ending while under such a time constraint is commendable. That being said, it’s truly heartbreaking that we never got more. Season 2 felt super rushed compared to season 1, I assume because the creators knew the show was getting canned and they had to finish it up. We should’ve had so many seasons. Every encounter with Belos feels like a season finale to me (Young Blood, Old Souls; Hollow Mind; King’s Tide; For the Future; Watching and Dreaming) Additionally, there are episodes of seasons 2 and 3 that feel like they could be full arcs/seasons in and of themselves, and some episodes that fit together into arcs if rearranged. The stuff about King’s identity sticks out to me in this regard. It would’ve been really interesting to have Luz, Lilith, Eda, Hooty, and King go on an adventure to find out about King’s past. Instead it had to be chopped up and sprinkled over the season. There was so much potential to this series and Disney squandered it. They squandered it so terribly.
What I absolutely loved was the moment just before Luz' fakout death. When she told the Collector he did good offering kindness to Belos, but her face said she knew it was naive. Which makes her guilt right after all the more irritating bc it was such a good show of her maturity for her to recognize that opening yourself up to ppl is not bad while having learned to recognize someone who doesn't deserve that, and not blaming the person who trusted the other, AND THEN SHE BACKTRACKS IMMEDIATELY. I know healing is not linear but there wasn't enough time to go back and forth and explore this contradiction ahhh ;-;
I LOVED that moment where Eda, Raine, and King STOMPED ON BELOS and Luz just let it happen. IT WAS SOOOO SATISFYING!!! Also PLEASE make a video of Eda and Raine! I love them both!❤
I think it would've been more impactful and heartbreaking is that during Luz's nightmare, Amity had said something about regretting ever falling in love with her. Which could probably imply that Luz had some kind of insecurity and thought that Amity deserved better than a partner who endangered her home and separated her from her family.
This is what Steven Universe wanted to be, but could not given their own series of circumstances. Still Steven Universe walked so the Owl House could fly. This was another amazing ending to a wonderful Disney Channel animated series. I will miss it , but I have enjoyed the ride from start to finish.
I've always said this. I personally don't like SU, but damn it opened the Flood gates for animation like this. Proving to higher ups that animation like owl house can be profitable
2:28 I maintain that the alleged "fun-killing" summer camp deserved to be explored, seeing how the children who went there maintain their quirks and hobbies (seeing how Vee's group are introduced). It probably wasn't as bad as Luz feared it would be and maybe she would have made a few friends
What really hit me in the Finally was the implications about Caleb and his clones. That despite their upbringing Caleb was able to overcome his prejudice and that felt like a betrayal to Philip who couldn't. That this trait followed into each and every one of Calebs clones which is why Belos kept killing them. But despite being unable to accept his brother he still needed him which is why he kept cloning them. It might have been love, or codependency, but he couldnt let Caleb go. Hunter wasnt vital to Belos's plan, he didnt even play a part. But Belos emotionally needed Caleb
I love this, but I have to wonder if all those kids were just Philly's way of trying to change history, even though by Hunter's time, he already knows his betrayal is inevitable.
I agree with most of this video, but the whole luz blaming herself plotpoint is not bad, because its so very real to me. Im currently a teen, and i can relate to her so much. Ive never traveled to any magical worlds and unintentionally given a genocidal maniac power, but blaming myself for things that arent my fault is something that i do a lot, so seeing a character i love and relate to also going through that, its nice.
A note on your comment about how long the Collector has been around and still unknowledgable: I honestly don't think the Collector has really interacted with mortals before. I kind of got the impression their only experience with mortals was the other Archivists' hoarding them like dragons, never actually interacting with them beyond a child with toys. The Archivists only think in terms of preserving when it comes to other species. His only connections were with other long-lived powerful beings---the Titans and the other Archivists. Then King's parent sealed him away, likely for eons. So yes, the Collector has technically been around for ages, long before life on the Boiling Isles....but their actual life experience, particularly with non-godlikes, is in all likelihood slim to none.
As angsty as Luz’s nightmare is she is KILLING it in that emperor drip tho Edit: also maybe Amity figured out the light glyph broke them out bc it was the glyph Belos needed to find the Collector? Idk just a thought
In defence of the Collector not really understanding death after thousands of years of existence, they first just existed with his siblings (the archivists), who are also godlike beings. Then he hung out with Titans (who live for a very long time). Then the archivists started taking the titans away out of fear, and then the collector got locked up in the in-between. Basically, they wouldn’t have had a chance to really experience and understand death regardless of how old they actually are. It wasn’t until Luz died and he couldn’t fix it that he understood
This finale really did justice for the series, even if it was cutted short. I love how Hunter found his family too with Darius and Eberwolf. Please do an Eda and Raine video.
For me the third episode was somewhat predictable but only because it was the best way (IMO) they could have ended it. I knew Collector would become a good guy through someone actually connecting and reasoning with him (and likely through some form of martyrdom) for example but that's because it would have been really disappointing if it didn't happen that way. The only thing that really bugged me is that Collector just kind of left after finally being accepted and having real friends for probably the first time in his life (something he wanted more than anything). I think it would have made a lot more sense if he had ended living at the Owl House with King, Eda, Hootie and Lilith. People in the Boiling Isles would be terrified of him at first but there is lots of terrifying things there so I think people there would adapt and get over it pretty quick.
When I was a kid we had Avatar: The Last Airbender. I'm glad this generation of kids got to grow up with The Owl House. It definitely feels like it'll go down as a classic like Avatar did.
the episodes can also say: "watching and dreaming, for the future, thanks to them" like she is saying to us she is trying to get more of this universe, but she cant because of Disney
The owl house has done so much for so many people and it is truly a work of art. I will miss it to bits but will always have the experiences and memories of growing and watching the series. Thank you owl crew, for giving us the best damn ending to the series you could!
For what it could do, it was great. If they had more time, they would have been greater! But for a show that was forced to rush things, I'd say yes, The Owl House stuck the landing.
The show is a 7/10 to me. My main gripes with the show weee it too fast paced and a lot characters didn’t get enough screen time like Lilith, Gus, and Willow. I don’t see what so special with show but it was good
@@JLacay If only the show was allowed to air how it was orginally envisioned, then perhaps this wouldn't have been a problem. Alas, we have what we have, and despite all the BS, it still stands out well!
While I really liked it, you can definitely see the signs of the reduced season. I don't know, I feel like some things needed a bit more time to really sink in. For example, in my opinion Belos' death was kind of underwhelming. I feel like they should have drawn it out just a bit more and have him get increasingly desperate for a bit longer, just really have him flail. And personally I feel like the stomping didn't quite fit, I don't know I feel like if they had just looked at him and turned their back on him to show that he's not even worth it would have been even more poetic and just really shatter what was left of his God complex. All that said, I just want to repeat that I still thought it was great.
Belos carried the writer’s seethe and basically could’ve died way back in season 2 if they didn’t shove in the Collector to stop his fully successful world-destroying plan.
I wouldn't say im obsessed with this show, and I can look at it and say that this was rushed, but it's so hard for me not to love this show to pieces. Even in the first season, when it really wasn't great, i still look back at it with a smile. The team really did the best they could. Even with the stupid mouse constantly riding them, they told their story and wrapped it up with a nice golden bow. I love this show, I'll never forget the happy memories it gave me.
What I also love is that in Belos's final moments, Luz mirrors the exact response he got from his ghostly hallucination of his brother. No scolding. No reprimands. No words. Just a glare full of disappointment and contempt.
I think it's a good choice that the collector goes back to the stars because he "had a lot of growing up to do" since it'd be kinda weird if he just stays like nothing happened.
It'd be fun to have a spin off of the Collector traveling the stars, stopping by other worlds, learning and growing as he occasionally has to help mortals out (and now has some context on how to actually interact with them.)
The owl house was there for me in a really dark time in my life and watching it over the years and watching the finale in a better i environment and feeling like I grew with the show, had me crying the whole episode. Such a great series that will always stick with me.
I hope Dana Terrence comes out with comics in spite of Disney so that she can give us more of the content that was missing prior to the shows end. It woulda been so cool to see casual Noceda + adoptees in the human realm, while also getting a view of the resistance in the Demon Realm.
The Owl House will always have a special place in my heart. And *adds to list* also hammers another nail in the SvTFoE coffin that screamed “YOU HAD TIME TO MAKE IT GOOD WHAT THE F#CK”
what really ticks me off, is that they showed us what the first half of season 3 could've been if they didn't try to cancel it. You can actually guess what they episodes could've been: Episodes 1&2: Luz and friends try to heal from the trauma of what happened to them on the day of unity. Episodes 2-5: Luz and Camilla try to teach Luz's friends about earth (this would also be when they introduced the new outfits, Vee's new form and caleb's new hairdo, etc.) Episodes 5-8: The focus shifts to show them trying to find a way back to the Boiling Isles (we would've seen a bit of they in the first 5 episodes, but it wouldn't be the main focus) Episodes 9&10: 2 part mid season finale, Flapjack found the clue to find the Titan's blood, and the fight against Belos (basically the ending of the first special)
Tbh... I'm not sure Amity knew the light spell would work. They were removed before Luz used it, and later on when Amity does it, the first thing she does is act surprised that it actually worked. I think at the time she was just like, "well there's nothing to lose so might as well try it cause it just makes logical sense" but she wasn't 100% certain it'd work. Some of it was also probably her trying to give Luz some kind of hope or reassurance that Luz could find a way out of the dream land and rescue everyone. But that's just me Edit: and for the collector.. He wasn't really on the isles for that long. He got trapped for a long time after watching his siblings kidnap and kill his only friends. He was an immature kid when it happened, and his coping mechanism was to use escapism. That's where the line, "I know it's just pretend. I don't care, I'll pretend as long as I want!" He wants to try and ignore his depression and loneliness, and just be that immature kid who was playing with beings who were on the same level as him and could understand him. As such, he was mentally trapping himself and restricting himself from growing or learning. He has really never come into contact with mortals as King says the Titans were semi-immortal so it's safe to say the Collector's time spent with Titans won't teach him much about your average witch or demon. The first mortal he came into contact with after all that time was a racist old white guy who manipulated him. He has had.. Zero real contact with anyone who could've taught him more about being a mortal. And like.. The collector going back to the stars at the end was actually a nice change. Remember in Steven Universe when the Diamonds spent two eras murdering people and invading planets, just to be forgiven and treated like they never did any of that? Remember how dumb that was?.. Well the Collector is that but done right. He plunged the entire island into an Apocalypse and literally almost killed everyone with the draining spell. He didn't leave permanently, but he did finally overcome his hurdle and realized he had more growing up to do and left. He did the thing that few TV shows ever do, and that's accept that you can't change overnight. Idk about you, but I wouldn't exactly forgive and forget that easily and just let him stay either.
One of my favorite things the owl house did was when Belos was dying he never said you'll be as bad as me, he said you'll be as bad as those witches. He never gave up and frankly what a doucebag. Also I have a flapjack tattoo!
The real sad part is that apparently what we saw was not a compressed third season into three episodes, but a whole new plotline created right after the crew knew they got cut... I red on reddit and such that the whole Collector subplot and the trip to Earth was created as an alternative way to allow Dana to explore what she wanted to tackle without feeling twenty episodes crammed into one, which I'd say make sense since from half season 2 they (although seamlessly I have to say) hit the gas and slowly change the final focus of the show (It was not confirmed but my money are on what the Day of Unity were supposed to do); so it's even more upsetting, not only Disney rob us of possible Bad Girl Coven on Earth shenanigans episodes but of whole plots, episodes and interactions that we never even saw on the show... still, maximun respect for them to select what to show, what to tell through enviromental storytelling (expecting no less from an Hollow Knight player) and what to cut and coming on top with almost all Ws despite DIsney's best efforts to cancel the show and then play dumb around it... and for having the ultimate morale of its story be "murder is ok"
The ending made me sob like a baby. Especially when they all said bye to the audience. It was the worker's way of saying goodbye to the fans and thanks for joining the journey. I will never forget this amazing show and the raw emotion it makes me feel in both the messages present throughout the show, the dark themes, and of course, the neurodivergent and LGBT+ representation a 13 year old me would've killed to have. I also really love how Hunter's iconic bye hasn't left since season 2 episode 1.
Im happy with the way it ended, and that it didn't end like the usual isekai cartoons where the mc never goes back to other dimension im happy luz can still go back to the boiling isle whenever she wants to c:
I honestly think the house finale was one of the best finales I have ever watched, I absolutely love references to previous episodes in shows and watching and dreaming and so many references I don’t think I could keep track. The fact that the finale battle felt more like a closing than a climax just felt like a real ending, and Belos’s death was the best Villian death other. There wasn’t a cringy speech about goodness and all that, it wasn’t the over dramatic second long death of falling all of a sudden and dying that Disney seems to like to do. Luz’s cold stare as Belos desperately tried to manipulate her one last time just hit home. Belos just wasn’t worth it, he was a bad person taht I could only describe with swears and Luz was straight up like “screw you” with just her face.
Dana Terrace confirmed that the show was canceled for its lack of rerun value. Its strong focus on the overall story meant you kind of had to watch every episode in chronological order, or some things would confuse you. They had a hard time airing random episodes on TV. Out of the entire series, only *one* episode was purely filler: the body-swap episode.
I really liked how they redeemed the Collector and explicitly called out Belos in the same show. A lot of media does one or the other. But few do both and so clearly explain the difference.
It was so perfect! I think they did a wonderful job with what they had and I really got that warm feeling at the very end. Cried twice during the ending. So glad to see this video because I don't have friends to dialogue with about it.
14:13 I thought that was jarring too but then I realized the collector needs some type of consequence since he can’t live normally on the isles due to the most of the population fearing him still.
For The Future was pretty meh, I'll give you that (though maybe the leak played a part in that), but the other two parts are incredible, and a testament to the Owl Crew's skill, as they managed to end their story in a satisfying way, even if it wasn't what anybody wanted. Thanks To Them is the second best episode of the show imo right after Knock Knock Knockin', and Watching & Dreaming closes most of the show in a pretty bow. Of course there are things that we never got to see, but I will never place the blame on Dana Terrace and her team. We all know who truly deserves to burn.
The “Byye” at the end gets me every stinking time. Somehow knowing all the crap the show went through, the representation, clearly seeing in the final episodes all the episode we could have had, and how they still managed to make it work just wrecks me in the best ways.
WE NEED A SPIN-OFF!!! Perhaps the Archivists come back, and King, with his new powers, can power up Luz to her Titan form again, Amity can simp, maybe we can get an “I love you” between them, and hopefully more representation since Disney sees how popular The Owl House was. We can learn more about Caleb and Evelyn, and if they’re connected to the Clawthornes, and some more Belos backstory, and maybe more about Vee and her backstory, maybe see if she got with Masha- so many cool stuff!
We could see more Titan Luz,(Hopefully)abomination Amity,King developing titan powers and using his Glyph shield or The Collector using his reality warping in more creative ways
I watched episode 1 when it came out and seeing the finaly made me cry so much seeing these characters grow from day 1 to now just hits hard when u realise it's gone
"A witch loses her true way, seek the key fear the lock, watching and dreaming for the future, thanks to them." Thank you Owl House, you were truly special... BYYYEEEEEE!!!
So true and real thanks for the spoiler in thumbnail And honestly this only got shown to me because the spoiler accomplished what u wanted it too which is engagement, because I currently don’t consume owlhouse content as the season is not gonna be out for months in my country.
2 details I absolutely love: If you look close at when Luz dies and King goes rage mode, he casts a Glyph bubble similar to the one Luz uses in her titan form. However, unlike Luz's bubble, King's uses his unique glyph set, including the Light Glyph he draws at the end of the episode. Also, there's an interesting bit of dramatic irony in Belos's death scene. He specifically says the line "We're humans. We're better than this", in the moment where neither of them are actually truly human.
Just imagine though if he actually was cursed and the owl gang just killed an innocent guy. I know that’s obviously not what happened but it’s funny to think about.
I'm literally waiting to get my Flapjack tattoo finished. I chose the same spot Hunter got his. It's so painful because it's my first full-color tattoo, but it's so worth it.
I can totally buy the Collector not getting mortals and mortality. All his siblings are probably as immortal as he is and they have the sole purpose of not letting anything around them die either. The baby titans just "vanished" he never said died, they were either taken away and sealed or he never saw the actual dying part. Then he was in the mirror and his only contact was Bellos and the grimwalkers, and that was probably the worst thing for him. Bellos wasn't immortal, but he was pretty damn close. Even if Collector saw him get his head cut off, Bellos could probably just build a new body or stick it right back on. Then there's the grimwalkers. He might have seen dozens of them die, but Bellos always had a new one ready to go. It'd be really hard for him to grasp that people aren't toys if he constantly saw that. "Oh, that toy i made broke, time to make a new one. Good thing they're all exactly the same."
It doesn't make any sense because he clearly understands what friends are and doesn't want to make people upset so you can have them. That's why it's incomplete contrast to him just thinking everybody is toys. The writing wanted to have the cake and eat it too but it doesn't work like that.
Its more of the trope that makes me do a wee bit of an eye roll. Like yeah Collector could totally get to this point and not understand life and death. But Luz flipping him in under an hour after he's spent months with King? Fits the storyline, love message. Just a little bit of the MC being the SPECIAL. As if the collecot or any immortal changes their opinion that easily. You'd think that it would have happened earlier. tho I do think he only really got it when Luz died. Him "forgiving" Belos was him mimicking Luz not understanding the lesson.
@Sarcastic Chorus well to be fair, who's actually talking to him honestly? The archivists and Bellos and even King only cared about manipulating him to use him for their own devices. Luz was probably the first person to actually sit down and speak plainly and honestly about what he's doing and why he needs to stop
King really did a lot of the leg work with the collector, trying to steer him away from his worst habits without having the words to properly help him understand why it was wrong. As well as making it clear to us aswell as himself that the collector just wants real friends and connections but is so detached from their reality it always comes feeling fake and artificial cause they didn’t choose to be there. And then with Luz and eda, king had the people to help explain it better aswell as an example of real love and connection to contextualizes everything he was trying to say to the collector in the second episode
0:30 I'm the same way,I just don't cry when I watch cartoons,anime or movies,I still feel sad when sad moments happen though,but you know what the weird thing is? apparently songs or music make me cry,like WTF? XD it's not the cartoons that make me cry but the music or songs in the shows that do it,like how many times have I cried whenever if we hold on together played at the end of land before time? or how many times has the music for bluey made me cry,like why is it the music that gets to me but not the sad moments? what is wrong with my emotions?
due to after what happened the other day,I'm going to just say this: I have every right to comment what I like just like everyone else does on youtube,someone told me that I'm not allowed to comment on the videos that I like,and that's not true at all,I have every right to enjoy the things I like on here just like everyone else
