At least Pam is straightforward with what she eats and how she exercises to have that body. I expected her to be restrictive, but I'd rather know the truth than hear one more 'I eat whatever I want' from an influencer.
PREACH she doesn't go around saying "oh you can eat whatever you want and be in a calorie deficit, blah blah" no. You cannot have THAT body and eat for a family of 4
it was really encouraging to hear you talk about how most women NEED over 20% body fat for literal menstruation. Not having ab definition isn't failing. thank you so much!
There is a way to get ab definition at a higher weight and body fat. But you have to put in the work. And be OK with not having a six pack. It's easier for men for sure.
@@frostyskeletons8950 no I heard her too, it just doesn't make sense to me though. I've known plenty of women with less than 20% body fat and still having regular periods. I mean what about female athletes too? And I'm not saying she's wrong because I've looked it up. It's just, how do you explain all the women under 20 percent fat functioning perfectly normal 🤔. I guess that's where genetics comes in
I live in Germany and I’m pretty sure there were no misunderstandings in translation. She really meant that it’s “not that hard”. She probably didn’t mean to offend anyone, I think she meant for it to sound encouraging, like “it’s not hard so you can do it too!”. In general, Germans are not as sensitive and not as easily offended as Americans (obviously it’s individual but overall…). When I first started watching American RU-vidrs, I was surprised by all the trigger warnings and super sensitive language. German RU-vidrs don’t really pay attention to that. Not because we want to be mean, it’s just a cultural difference.
I’m from Austria and was surprised as well… I didn‘t take the „it‘s not that hard“ personally or felt offended in any way. It really has to be a cultural difference if you compare european youtubers to american ones🤔 interesting
I love Pamela and I just have to say : when she was asked if she had an eating disorder, she mentioned in her insta story that she doesn’t think she did but there was a time where she was “super lean”? But now she cleared it up by saying her body has more fat now she likes to keep it that way. Pamela is a very sweet girl and I don’t think she had bad intentions with what she’s said or done..I’ve been following her for many years now and she’s really helped me in my fitness journey. I know some of the things she says, you might not agree with but thank u for ur info. I have learned many things in this video.
Also, you don't need to cut out any of those. You can eat everything and have abs. Moderation is key. Why would anyone deprive themselves of the joy of eating foods they love?
I would love to see these influencers work 12, 13, 14, hour shifts like I do and like many of us do, and still see if it's 'easy' to find hours to work out, cook, and shop for these ingredients I can't find at my local grocery store in my rural town
She may not work 14 hours a day, but pamela also has a job and is a fashion designer, has so many projects and overall is very busy! Don’t underestimate other people
Pam works a lot actually, she has her own company, works with several brands, prepares her workout videos, write her cookbook and overall just does a lot of office work 😅 She also uploads workout plans and 3 new recipes for this Pam app every week. Sometimes she also admits she just doesn't have time to really cook a breakfast or even follow her own workout plan. There is a lot to say about her "nutrition facts" (really a lot oh my god) but don't say that she does nothing because it is a huge lie
@@linevn1594 that's a fair statement to make but Pam has assistants and the money for it. Alot of us work 14 hours and make menial pay which barely puts food on the table
sorry to dissapoint, I am German, this is the way we speak. "It's not that hard" is a common phrase over here and will be received as an encouraging one. It roughly translates into " it is not that as hard as you might think it is, I got it, you'll get it, too". We aren't sensitive, but effective ;I)
To be honest, the way Pamela speaks is really typical for us Germans and since Pamela has a pretty good level of English - you can hear it in her stories - this was probably translated completely like she wanted to. She's very honest and straightfoward which is very common in Germany. Thanks for making the video, Abbey!
Fun Fact: Pamela and her brother have been spending lots of time translating german to english all by themselves and they are in fact capable of the english language. In conclusion... the wording is not accidently "bad", but they choose these words fully aware of their meaning.... Doesn't make it better, I guess
@@AbbeysKitchen might as well add the fact she posted her final school degree in which she almost had a mark 1 ( The best grading in Germany ) or 2 in every subject, so it seems that she is pretty fluent and very aware of her wording.
@@AbbeysKitchen she has this narrative of only „good“ ingredients in every German story when she talks about her products and recipes. Wordings like „good“ „clean“ or „nothing bad“ are really common when she speaks her native language :) so the app description is really worded on purpose
@@mebeionthebrightside I definitely agree. I‘m pretty sure she said in an Insta story that her brother‘s girlfriend translates all the recipes and descriptions, but she didn‘t mention if that girlfriend has a background in translation. I’m a translator myself, and I have definitely read statements which made more sense and had a very different vibe in German than in English, which someone without a translation background might not pick up on.
I feel like they scratch the itch to obsess over food BUT in a way more adaptive way I think we can replace the internal diet culture gnome with an internal tiny Abbey
Some people think intuitive eating is just eating when your hungry and stopping when you’re full. Which that’s part of it, but it’s also honoring your cravings, and not demonizing foods.
Honoring your cravings can be a slippery slope though... Especially in the food environment we live in nowadays where so many foods are engineered to be addictive. Past studies have even shown that our gut microbiome can determine what cravings we are likely to have. Eating lots of healthy foods feeds diffetent bacteria in our gut and makes it more likely for us to crave healthy foods. On the other hand, the more unhealthy foods we eat, the more in turn we will have cravings for these foods.
@@sarahsidney1988 I don’t mean honoring binging or eating too much of one thing. But if I’m craving toast for breakfast instead of a protein smoothie ima eat toast. Or if I want pasta for dinner w a salad. Or if I want chips. I don’t condone eating too much one anything, because balance is still important. But I think people read too much into cravings. Eat the piece of chocolate and honor your body when it says it’s done. Hope that makes sense? ❤️
@@elisesimone022 It's a struggle for a lot of people to find that "balance" so rules help people have that balance that you might naturally have. You cant expect an obese person to fully grasp these rules of "moderation" or "eating when your hungry" cause that can be difficult to spot, and not go over. Literally, intuitive eating is practically impossible for most people as it's in your BIOLOGY to eat more food when it's highly pleasurable, defeating the purpose of intuitive eating. Intuitive eating and food freedom do not go in hand for me. Food "freedom" is more like food imprisonment for me if I just ate whatever I wanted... doesn't work with someone with binge eating disorder. Secondly, Having food rules first is a great first step to lead to mindfully eating in people when they're ready so you guys have to stop demonizing this essential process to what you all call "food freedom". Especially concerning people who feel BAD after eating certain foods, (so they then cut it out if they are sensible) its like you guys forget that a part of intuitive eating is listening to your body and eating what FEELS right and good for it... some people don't have good responses to sugar. I know I don't. I get diahrea, physically nauseous, and sick each time I eat it so I had to cut it out (sweets), it's not helping me live a good life.
I feel the same way! I have an addiction to her workouts but I felt so uncomfortable with the way Pam views food. Always saying “clean” or “guilty pleasure” or acting like sugary granola is a crime to eat.
Same. It also annoys me so much that she had polls on her insta if you worked out that day. The no option is usually worded with lazy... That really triggers me. Not working out does not equal lazy 🙄Pam that is.
@@juicylicious1987 I don't like that as well. It doesn't really affect me personally but I'm sure it can make people feel bad for taking extra rest days.
I found Pamela at start of lockdown 1.0 on march last year. I remember doing a plank when a literally earthquake happened in our area. I planked through the earthquake because I wanted to keep up with Pamela
as a diabetic with an allergy to banana , I cannot express how much I am tired of "sugar free"/low sugar recipes being full of banana and/or maple syrup
Must be annoying having to sift through maple syrup recipes to get to ones that are actually sugar-free. Maple syrup IS sugar. And sure, it might not hurt someone who isn't diabetic to have maple syrup on their pancakes, but usually when something is listed "sugar free" it should mean it actually doesn't have added sugar of any kind in it, so that diabetics like yourself don't have to sift through what amounts to glorified BS to get the real thing you're after. And you'd think they'd add a label for fruit used as sweeteners - there are people who are allergic to things like banana, like yourself, but there are also folks allergic to any and all culinary fruits. I met someone like that once. This guy was allergic to culinary fruits (the sweet ones) specifically, but wasn't allergic to vegetables - not even the ones which were botanically fruits but didn't have the sweet aspect. And it would not have done him any good either to find a recipe that doesn't normally have fruit that has a fruit-as-sweetener listed. Seriously, recipes that have "stealth nutrition" should be labeled as such for that reason alone (including "stealth veggies" since some folks might be allergic to those or might have digestive intolerances specific to leaves such that the only "leafy green" they can consume without ever experiencing ill effects is broccoli due to it not actually being a leaf) - and so people with sensory issues can go into it eyes wide open and know whether or not that is personally a good workaround for sensory issues or not (sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't, it depends).
How is this intuitive?????? There are 10,000 rules!!!! I can't keep up 🥴 "intuitive eating" has turned into such a buzz word for influencers and it is so clear a bunch of them didn't do any research on the topic. If Pamela spent 5 seconds reading any of the tenets of intuitive eating, she would quickly realize that her bazillion food rules are in complete opposition to the whole idea. Lol I need a drink!
Can’t agree more! Intuitive should be your instant thought, like oh I want to eat a banana now or I need to eat something at lunch time before I need to go back to work. Not like the influencers keep clean, keep healthy or no sugar, there is always a day you want a bar of chocolate or just want fried chicken. After all we are all human beings, aren’t we? Enjoy the food, be happy! Enjoy the life!
I generally have an issue with people creating apps etc. and giving nutrition and exercise advise without any actual license, study or training. In my opinion, you should only be allowed to do that after you did a proper training and education on which you can refer to.
I would love it for fitness/welness influencers too. Like, they should be actual trainers/ instructors/coaches/PTs etc. or at least have a solid background of being a (semi) professional athlete so that they wouldn't do any harm to our bodies
Finally someone who agrees with me! A lot of these influences are terrible role models. I realised the fashion industry isn't the only one making people insecure. It's also fitness influencers and especially female influencers.
I admit I am definitely a “diet culture” person…with a bodybuilding background it’s hard not to be… but dates not being “clean”?! It’s a flipping fruit?!
I’m a fitness professional (with aesthetic goals) and I eat at least 4-5 medjool dates literally every day. They’re basically candy with health benefits. 😹
Same - former bikini model turned menstrual educator and exercise scientist. Now I eat more sugar cyclically and have near competition body. Fruit is life!
@C I can’t speak for a European. But as an English-speaking North American (like abbey) this is well within our ability to pronounce. Does she need to intuitively know how to pronounce them? No. But if she is doing all this research on these individuals it seems she could have picked up their names.. sometimes in the clips she plays they even say their own name and she doesn’t say them right. I’m not even looking for a perfect pronunciation with no accent. Just an attempt. She does this in almost every video that it seems like an intentional way to degrade these individuals. Or at least pretend like she’s too aloof to know who they are. Just saying. It’s disrespectful. Like Nina Dobrev. She’s even a Canadian actress. Very famous. But even if she doesn’t know her, which I won’t blame her for. She pronounced her name as DobrOv. That’s not even how you would say it in English. It doesn’t make sense.
As an American who studied German in high school and college, I’m not going to give Abbey grief over the name Reif. There are a lot of German/Yiddish origin names that have the ‘ei’ and ‘ie’ combos that are pronounced opposite to what they should be “auf Deutsch”. There’s no rhyme or reason to it either. I stick with German pronunciation unless I’m told differently by the person. Heck the last name “Schroeder” in North America is a complete minefield when it comes to pronunciation. Yet to native German speakers only know one pronunciation, and trust me, we’re not using it here in North America.
Hi Abbey, I am interested in the "soy causing hormone disruption" topic. I am eating a more plant based diet but have been avoiding soy products (tofu, soya yoghurt/milk etc) as I had read they can not be good for people with PCOS. There is so much misinformation out there so if you have the time, I would really like if you could please do a video about this topic? Love your vids, you make it so easy for simple people like me to understand complicated topics :D
Something also to know is that alot of the hate leveraged towards soy is just racism in a trenchcoat. Same with MSG which is literally the same as onion salt just without onion. Just racism in a trenchcoat and toxic masculinity and a fear of men becoming "feminine" based on... eating soy. Because that isn't possible lol. Nor is it problematic anyway lol.
I was always wondering about her „Naturally Pam“ products. She talks a lot about how bad white sugar is and how she eats almost no sugar anymore. In her Protein bar for example is still 21g of sugar in 100g…. Ok maybe not the „bad“ white sugar but for me sugar is sugar and it doesn’t change anything, so I don‘t get why she has to stress so much about it…
It's nice to have a piece of cake or a couple pieces of french fries when going out with friends without giving an F about calories and carbs. Pam looks amazing but she doesn't seems like the girl who would ever do that.
She does actually. In fact in her recent stories.. she uploaded pictures of cake and French fries! She not restricted herself for just one bite but ate 3 slices of cake in just one day as she was enjoying her vacations. I’d get that thought too, friend, if I didn’t follow her Instagram stories😀
@@cloudonhills6565 but didn't she say the "fries" were bad? And that it's very hard to find clean options in restaurants in Ibiza? I also remember the cake being vegan, gluten free and "clean"
@@cloudonhills6565 she claims to have eaten 3 slices. I don't believe fitnfluencers ever about their diet habits. She was just trying to look cool, probably
The way fat is distributed around my body, I would have to be WELL below 20% body fat to see even an INKLING of ab definition. Fat likes to cover my abdomen compared to other parts of my body, so I am NOT going to fight it on that. I'm so happy you've been able to put that into perspective for me, it's something I've struggled with in the past. So thank you!
@@CherryJuli no she's not? She's probably 18%, healthy. Don't spew nonsense like that Edit: she would be dead if she was under 10% bf. She's obviously fit and lean, not completely emancipated. A lot of her info on diet is still bs though. But hey, what works for her works for her.
Women also tend to collect more fat in their tummy, abdomen/ pelvic regions to protect our reproductive organs! It’s totally natural and normal, and those organs are pretty important 😉
I unfollowed her because it made me crazy how she always had those polls in her story where she asked whether you were active or a “couch potato” ☠️ everytime I had a rest day I felt so guilty after all because she made it seem like you are lazy, just because you are not working out EVERY day. Moreover I think for many she represents a quite unrealistic diet, as it seems like she always eats healthy and never “cheats”
Oh man, that sounds really rough. Nobody should feel that way on a rest day, we all need rest! Glad you made that decision for yourself, as it sounds like you’re taking care of yourself 😊
Agreed, sister. Even the word “cheating” as it relates to our food intake creates a breeding ground for disordered eating. Good for you, for getting reducing negative diet culture on your feed!
I know exactly what you mean! It's so crazy because rest days are needed AND not everybody lives the life of a fitfluencer who works out 24/7. Her polls really annoy me but sadly she's not the only one 🙄
I LOVE the way you talk about food and wellness! Growing up I always associated "healthy eating" with restriction and cutting out the "bad" foods. Now, thanks to your videos, I think about what I can ADD to my diet to enrich it, and it has helped me immensely on my own wellness and self-love journey! Thanks Abbey 💛
I disagree that her body is "too lean" or in any way "unhealty" looking. If you follow her on Instagram you can see in her story (and in her YT videos as well) that her body doesn't look overtly fit or too defined. Yes, she has abs but her bodyfat % is not concerning looking imo. She used to look way leaner and really skinny a few months/years ago but said herself that she gained weight since and is much happier with her body now. But YEAH, I strongly agree that her approach on food is highly concerning and screams orthorexia.
She definitely has back problems, lordosis. If you look how she always stands in her photos moving her hips backwards, like a duck, it’s not healthy at all
thank you for mentioning that it is important for females to have a healthy amount of body to maintain hormone function and menstrual cycles! in our society females are pressured to maintain a very low unhealthy body fat
When I was younger, I would have tried any diet or exercise to look like her... But now I just feel pity for how misinformed she is considering all the unnecessary sacrifices she feels compelled to make 😔. Thank you for all the excellent content debunking diet culture, Abbey.
@@trishamurphy3357 idk if you realize this, but I can see your hateful comment history. 😅 Maybe instead of projecting your failures onto a successful RU-vid channel, you should get offline to find some joy in your own life. 💋💝
it's truly "amazing" how many of these influencers talk about intuitive eating but then promote the most restrictive diet and overall unhealthy attitude towards food.
@이효손 ?? you really thought you ate that lmao Okay? Sure, she is an influencer. But her doing a sponsorship for a mattress doesn’t discredit the fact that she’s a *licensed dietitian*, whereas most of these popular “fitness” youtubers are NOT and give out misleading information like Pamela here.
I developed very disordered eating when I was on a weight loss journey so being able to watch your videos, understand how my thinking was disordered and how to make nutritious meals that will keep me full while still enjoying that slice of cake has been a life saver
That’s so awesome Bridget! I too once had disordered eating. That manifested a lot of disease in my body. Happy to see another sister on a healthy path! Congrats!
It‘s not the translation. Germans learn a vert high level of English in School. It’s totally her mindset. Edit: Light dinners are a cultural thing in Germany. Most of the time we as the Breadnation eat some bread in the evening.
Hey Abbey☺️! I would to see a isoflavone/soy foods video:) I took an Endocrine Toxicology class, and our unit on estrogenic compounds we consume was interesting yet complex as you said! A consolidated video on it would be so resourceful and helping to many like me who fear overconsumption of soy!
Abbey actually made video on soy, it's old but short and entertaining, debunks soy myths. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nWHc3kxWl4w.html
I have an older video about soy on the channel ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nWHc3kxWl4w.html ) but it's on my list to make a new one!
I don't get your recommendations. Not everyone is in the need of carbs, especially in the evening. If I eat carbs in the evening (even little), I get pretty full and my sleep quality gets affected. So you are pretty strict here. Further I bet Pam is working together with a nutritionist to create the meals as well. Additionally she's drinking protein shakes as well. Everyone is aware that she's only eating what she recommends in her app. I think here we have a clash of cultures and Germans take it more easy. You sound frustrated in this video in some sequences....
the most important thing to remember as well is that these fitness influencers always say that they "get their abs" doing their own workouts, but they actually do so much more than that. they're lying to their viewers just so they can get views
I dunno, with my genes abs just appear when my bodyweight dips. E.g. when my appendix went septic I couldn't eat Or move properly for weeks and then was in the hospital for a week and... Hey presto, abs. I call it the "almost die diet" and various forms of it are popular with influencers Also having parts of your body surgically removed decreases your weight
Pamela has an entire home gym with weights, most of her videos are just bodyweight exercises, OF COURSE she's doing more work and lifting weights. To her credit, I don't believe she has ever pretended to only do her workout videos.
@@buzzlightyearandco thats extremely true! pamela doesnt deny that she exercises a lot, but even then, she should be fueling her body MUCH more than shown. im referring to other fitness influencers as well, not just pamela! im just trying to make people realise that its totally 100% okay if you don't get abs from "two week shred" challenges, because everybodys body is different! dont beat urself up :) u made a wonderful point though
@@buzzlightyearandco she used to lift weights a few years ago and she said in a video that all she's been doing until then, so i guess it makes sense that she has a lot of muscle(?)
Just here to say that Nectar is the best mattress ever. Got one for my husband and I and one for our kid. Postpartum hip and back pain disappeared overnight. When my mom was visiting she slept on it and went home and bought 2 for her home because she loved it so much! She has scoliosis and said it was the first time she slept without back pain.
I really struggle with my relationship with food and have had a ED in the past. I can't do IG i know I will just go crazy comparing myself. I already feel stupid being 33 and still struggling this much just like I did as a teenager.
@@AbbeysKitchen it does. I love how you don't demonize food. I feel more comfortable eating something I want in moderation instead of trying to not eat it all and ending up binging on it.
@@MysteryExodus I definitely feel crazy a lot of the time. I have let this thing take up so much space in my mind. It's nice to know I'm not alone even though I wouldn't want anyone to feel this way about themselves.
She looks amazing, she doesn't look sick. Genes and hard work do make the difference. Maybe this doesn't work for you and that's ok. But don't judge other people for something that works for them. If you don't like it, don't try the diet. Simple. We are all different
Pamela Reif reminds me of princess aurora from sleeping beauty. Even in her workout videos she is always full glam. Never breaks a sweat. And does anyone else notice that she doesn’t make the funny faces through the tough workouts??? How does she ALWAYS look perfect??? Her workouts are tough though.
THANK YOU! She doesn‘t even have an education/degree concerning nutrition as well as sports/training science or such. Also lots of her fitness videos have been critizised from experts who actually know what they are talking about. It‘s so sad to see that so many young girls get influenced and even brainwashed from her approach to nutrition and body image.
That's the comment I was looking for! It's something that really concerns me too. She has such a big influence on young girls and teaches them values that are not based on facts...
Hello do you remember who reviewed her workouts? Because I incorporated some of her videos into my workout routine which I'm trying to improve but I don't have much scientific knowledge so it could be super helpful to know what she does wrong! Edit:sorry about my English
@@krkrkr3509 I don't remember exactly, sorry. But there are quiet some comments under the videos. But I am gonna look if I can find some of the reviews
I don’t like Abbey. I used to think I did. But she’s soooo judgmental. Her views on food are so narrow. The fact that she rolls her eyes at lemon water and people trying to avoid flour and sugar for their health. Just let people live their lives. And then she peddles PROTEIN BARS??? Are you kidding??? What a hypocrite
Right! I kind of feel like I'm in the wrong if I'm doing something she says is bs or incorrect. I agree with a lot she says but there's a sense of superiority here idk
I am your regular watcher and subscriber and I really like watching your videos. However, I didn't like this one and I think that it's somewhat misleading. This video contains huge amount negativity for Pamela, which is not nice. You are overstating that 'sugar is sugar', shaming her for using coconut sugar instead of white, missing the fact that Pamela herself in the app says the same thing - sugar is still sugar - and she very rarely uses any kind of it, and adds fruits like banana and dates instead. Counting her calorie intake just based on recipes is wrong. To know how many calories she's eating daily, you would need to follow her for quite some time to see that she is not eating only that, but she also snacks a lot on protein bars, fruits, smoothies, lentil chips etc. Stating that she's eating around 1300 kcal is very misleading. I've been following her for more than a year and I can say that her message on food is no more different than yours. Th difference is simply that she does not eat bread, protein powder, and is much more focused on sustainability. I could also say that she's sure not eating less or working out more compared to your dear Linda Sun (who I also love, no hate here), only the interpretation is different. Anyway, I hope that this comment finds you well. Greetings from Serbia :)
She eats more and also differently as her meal plan in the app. She often shows her naturally Pam bars or hej nut bars. She does a ‚what i eat in a day‘ on her Instagram. But nevertheless I think her approach on clean eating and food in general is concerning. And sure, she probably eats restrictively to keep her weight.
Yeah, agree. Being this obsessive over healthy food is not good in my opinion. Its exhausting mentally and physically. Like when I was at the peak of my clean eating phase, weighing every individual blueberry. I was legit dying inside.
@@TheaTheGenius I absolutely agree with you. Demonizing food can never be healthy if you ask me. It's all about moderation. Even water can be dangerous if you have too much of it. 😂
I find that the language aspect may have to do with personal sensitivity. I'm from Germany and of course there can be people whom have been affected negatively by diet culture and bothered by the wording here for example, but for the main sum of her clientele, they won't be bothered by the wording. In fact, I think it's quite common here to frame the wording like that. It's not meant to say "this is absolutely not suitable for a healthy diet" nor "this is bad food, this is good", but rather that's her recommendation and everything else is also fine. I think whilst watching her stories, you can get a better sense of that. Best✌🏼
It’s a bummer cause her workouts are so good and they’ve got my mental health out of the gutter but I only use her routines. I can’t be bothered with the food lol.
It’s odd that she referred to skipping dates and chocolate as “clean” instead of ethical. The issue with chocolate at least is the worker exploitation. Not sure about dates though.
I know many medjool dates come from Israel, so people who stick to the BDS boycott in support of Palestine could have that concern? but other than that... no idea 😐
Small little fun fact, she has her own food brand in Germany called Naturally Pam and one item thats sold is "Organic, no flavoring coloring and persevatives, vegan, no cane sugar, low glycemic index etc etc" Chocolate chips, that are mainly made out of 3 ingredients. They cost almost 3 € and its Organic chocolate labeled with the European DE-ÖKO-001 standard logo. It says that the product is made out of at least 95% organic ingredients but doesn't say if the chocolate and chocolate butter was harvested without the worker being exploited. Yeah 😂 I am not surprised that she doesn't use her own brands stuff, cause all of them taste very bad.
@@mandy_uw7544 overall her food line is pretty laughable. Absolutely overpriced for what you get and the entire substainable-shtick is just ridiculous. I mean, why package the overpriced oats in a "100% plant derived plastic, glued together with compostable glue" if you could just have picked paper for much cheaper as Well? Why not sell the oats in larger packaging to cut down on packaging waste in general, if substainability was really a factor for her/her Brand? The branding of naturally pam is also so insanely hyprocrytical, considering how much she travels by plane for 1-3-days-Business Trips but also for private matters.
I actually tried that sweet scrambled egg recipe! It's delish :) Yeah that language seems a bit triggering for sure - when I tried her app & recipes, all I wanted to do was add my full fat cream, butter, and good ol' granulated sugar haha - which I actually did for the most part. That being said, all her recipes are delish and really well crafted!
I think the reason I like her app is because I am severly gluten intolerant so seeing more variaty in what I can replace it with has really helped me eat more varied😂
She just jumps into food trends like low carb, keto, vegan, food combining, organic, and now intuitive eating. How tf can anyone follow everything for having a damn meal???🙄🙄😭.
And all those "diets/lifestyles" demonize various foods. Like on keto you literally can't have FRUIT. FREAKING FRUIT! or CARROTS! Screw diets and diet culture.
The first thing to come out of your mouth is alwayyss protein. It’s so boring, it’s like your obsessed with it. I never even heard you mention the word vitamins regarding fruit etc. Your not a bodybuilder, I don’t understand the obsession 😫
i feel like a lot of influencers feel as if there are only two eating styles, that being either tracking or intuitive eating. After reading intuitive eating materials, you realize that intuitive eating is way more complicated than just -not tracking-, but i’m pretty sure most of them haven’t read anything about it lol. my theory is that a lot of them are so used to tracking that simply not doing so means that they are full, diet culture rejecting, intuitive eaters. we need to dispel the myth that intuitive eating is just eating without tracking, because it’s so much more than that, and can be so much more fun too! great video abbey :) 💕
Pardon my not knowing but what other ways of eating are? I mean if you not track and eat when you are hungry and sot when you are full (I know There's more than that to intuitive eating) I'm curious
@@arf6899 I think what i was trying to get across was “intuitive eating” as it is known, is actually a complex framework that involves both the bodies internal queues and intellectual knowledge about food to make the most satisfying and intuitive decisions about food, no diets, weight loss, wellness BS, etc. “Intuitive eating” is technically different from not tracking because you can not track your food but still have food rules (like pamela) which means you do not intuitively eat as the creators intended. Therefore, eating what you want and not tracking is still not intuitive eating if it is still restricted within diet culture and fat phobia. hopefully that’s helpful 👍 we also don’t know if pamela eats when she’s hungry and stops when she’s full
It's so funny to me that you keep criticising a very small minority of people, when we have an obesity epidemic on our hands, which is unarguably a bigger issue. It would be nice to see you talk about a problem that affect more than half of the U.S. population.
We also have an eating disorder and body image epidemic in this country. Caloric deficits due from these conditions can lead to heart damage, loss of menstruation, osteoporosis, amongst others
Thank you for this Abbey!! As much as I love Pam's workouts and her positive vibe in general and even some products from her food brand I always found her view on certain "bad" foods very questionable and it felt quite restrictive to me...and every time she suggests I use date syrup or what not because it's a "better" sweetener I can hear you say SUGAR IS SUGAR hahaha
Again, such a really good eye opener on a fitness influencers diet recommendations. Don’t get me wrong, I loved to do her sweaty workouts for nearly a year and she is absolutely gorgeous. But what she prays reminds me so so much on my eating disorder times. Even if this might be the perfect way for her, it is so dangerous for girls coming with a restrictive background.
Someone asked her via Instagram Q&A poll whether she had an eating disorder, Pam said, not an eating disorder but she had really low body fat in 2018 but now she knows a bit more fat suits her better and healthier. And also she won't go back to her old body etc.
Oof I’m a long distance runner training for my next half and I can’t imagine have no sugar! Your body doesn’t know if the glucose is coming from a gummy worm or a sweet potato! We all need energy. We all need sugar 😌
Could you possibly review Lilly Sabri’s what I eat in a day? I know she doesn’t have many recent ones, but I think that would be interesting since she does practice intuitive eating and is a fitness influencer
Thank you for all of the education you share with us for free! It’s so helpful for those of us with history of disordered eating and to keep us out of the diet culture trap! I would love to hear your take on the Be well by Kelley diet…it’s something.
I am SO happy that you made this video about her! Being a german i think she’s the most infamous german Fitness Influencer and she triggers me to NO end! She’s said things like she can only eat as much as she does (2000-2200 kcal ?!?!) because she works out TWO HOURS/DAY so if you want to eat “that much” it’s okay if you workout every single day, or says she eats intuitively but can’t have a coke or a single scoop of ice cream at events because it doesn’t fit her diet???? I can’t even look at her without getting angry 🤡
I'm so glad for your channel. I recently slipped back into my ED habits and it triggered my POTS symptoms soooo bad. I had this bright idea to count macros and calories yet again....then I ended up with heart palpitations, shakiness, cold limbs, anxiety, vertigo, and insomnia. Couldn't go to work a couple of times. Oh also lost my period AGAIN I started eating more and got rid of the counting app. My symptoms are slowly improving. It's so hard to give myself permission to eat enough because everyone online in the diet culture scene brags about how little they eat.. So your channel is definitely refreshing and necessary.
Day 1 of asking you to make a video about Natacha Oceane, I think her mentality and diet is super healthy (mindset speaking) and I really need the validation from you that she is in fact a good fitness influencer to follow
@@Diana72910 yes but at least natacha responded to her video in the comment section, it's a common thing to miss judge since a lot of these youtubers don't spend enough time researching.
@@gabrielleathalia1359 it shouldn’t be common for a dietitian that is making RU-vid videos about it, she should have listened better and actually watched more of her videos. Of course, Natacha was a sweetheart
I’m just gonna say that I love Pam and she has changed my life is so many ways. I love her workout routines and I love her app and the food. I don’t eat as clean as her, so I usually combine her recipes with my own but they had helped me so much to get creative in the kitchen and they helped me to eat healthier as well. So I must say that I don’t agree with Abby this time :( Pam is just awesome. I wouldn’t recommend to eat strictly like her because we need to remember that her work is literally to look good and have an almost “perfect” figure, but overall, the recipes are tasty, easy and healthy. You guys should give it a try
It's hard to not listen to "diet culture" rhetoric when so many influencers follow them. I want to continue to just eat the food I love and live fully on my slow + steady weight loss journey. I wish there were more examples of influencers who are doing the same. In ed recovery, every day I have to mentally stop the temptation into caving to their ways. Thanks for all your help, Abbey. x
the proportion of people in rich countries that "get enough of those" calories is FAR FAR higher than the tiny proportion of people that dont get enough - as seen by our insane obesity rates... yes its complicated (sometimes) and i understand your channel is obviously only talking to people at risk of or having past ED's. . but shes right WE as a people in GENERAL - get enough calories!
Ok. I do enjoy your videos, but I really do think you didn't have to throw shade on her english or go on talking about copy writers and so on... for one, i'm pretty sure she has a bigger team than you imagine and the english is just fine, for second, no need to play the foreigner card, and for third - her english is just fine. it's just her attitude, but then just attack that aspect maybe?
I agree with most things that were said except for the warm liquids thing, avoiding cold drinks was a game changer for me when it comes to digestion ! Such a small little change made such a great impact !
I remember I really wanted to look like her. Now, a few years later, I'm weightlifting and eating a plant-based and glutenfree (I have celiacs) diet where I eat intuitively and enjoy my food. I love my body, it's so strong and healthy. Watching this made me realize how far I've come. Thank you
I’m interested in a video about Hashimoto’s and dietary restrictions such as gluten, dairy, etc. I’ve tried it both ways, and I don’t notice a difference either way.
@@AbbeysKitchen would love this to extend to other auto immune diseases too! I have ulcerative colitis and get sick of people telling me that I could cure myself with diet (my excellent specialist is not of that view, but non medical people love to claim they can cure me!). I notice no difference with my diet unless it’s something that would affect most people ie something super oily or spicy, which happened before my illness anyway. So frustrating.
Ah, now I remember why I stopped following Pamela Reif on Instagram and deleted her app. I just think her values and mine did not align. So, I just stopped her influence on my life. But when she is happy with her lifestyle and some of her followers are too, then great and I am happy she is able to help some people. But her more limited food choices weren’t just my cup of tea as that really triggered my ED thoughts and I had been in a healthy and recovered mindset back then. So be careful whom you follow. If they trigger you, they are probably not the best influencer for you.
Thank you for that video 👏🌺 I do use the PamApp and do the workouts and I do cook the recipes for myself and my family and we love them. But I haven't never red those blog posts of hers, NO! If I want to know something more about nutrition etc. I would watch something yours or read it from actual doctors, but I chose wisely because there are a lot of doctors with old mindset
You have to keep in mind that (even organic) food is A LOT cheaper in Germany/ Europe (where Pam is from) than in the US . Thats sth you have to consider when using the APP. E.g. a pack of strawberrys (not organic) might cost 4- 5 $ in the US... u can get organic strawberries in Germany for 3€ - even with the exchange rate that still means 4$ max for organic strawberries in Germany compared to regular US strawberries for 5$
I love how Abbey calls out these "influencers" that make big talk like it is their profession to give nutritional advice in a sassy and polite way with evidences
She never talks about period or being or her period even though she talks about more "delicate" things such as farts, bloating, poop and so my guess is she does not menstruate anymore. I remember her what I eat in a day insta stories and one day she ate two protein balls, a protein bar and some oatmeal (because she was busy and did not have the time) while working out for one hour that day. And many days of hers looked like that which made me question everything she promotes
I remember a live Q&A she did on Instagram where she was answering most questions, then a loooot of questions about workouts on your period came out and she ignored every single one of them. I may be wrong but I even saw her brother pointing out questions for her to read and at some point she said "I don't want to answer that" and she looked annoyed. I mean, if she was a super private person about pooping and bloating and bowel issues I would've understood, but it seems like she deliberately does not talk about periods and I feel it's a huge problem with women who workout! It's important for young women to know when to rest and she just makes you feel guilty for not working out FIVE times a week (and sometimes she does more)! On the other hand I really like Maddie Lymburner's approach, she's super honest about periods and says it's ok to rest if you have cramps and many other reasonable things!
Had to stop watching, this lady seems very judgmental. To the comments, okay fair points about her assistants and cooks, but she's the one who was independent and dynamic enough to make the kind of money to afford those assistants and cooks. I work a full time, over time paying job and wow! Pam lights my life right up, I feel so alive and full of energy with her routines. Her sweet potatoe peanut butter chicken recipe is unbelievable. Delicious, and sweet potatoe nutrients are endless. She's a wonderful, needed woman in this world and I'd hate to think other people would be intimidated by that, especially if it's based off of working so much. I work a lot, still find time to do her workouts and go to the grocery store & get these recipe ingredients. Hats off to the people with kids who do the same, and yes I've seen it done. Maybe not always, but people have their times. And her meals? They take 45 mins at the most. The recipe I mentioned takes 20. Pam may say staying fit is not that hard, its cause it's not that hard to her. The lady does her research. She reads all about fitness, it's mindset. It can be 'not that hard' with proper time management skills and motivation
I have been a big fan of Pams and did her workouts every day for a solid year- but noticing the things she eats and posts in her every day story are quite triggering. She legit NEVER eats a normal slice of cake or anything she considers "bad" and even on holidays she looks out for restaurants with "clean " options and rather just eats her own products. I don't think that's a very healthy message to send and I stopped buying her cookbooks and deleted her app for that reason. Right now she is in Ibiza and doesn't even try anything from another culture and just sticks to salads and her products. I don't know, it did disappoint me a lot since she is mostly advertising herself as a "foodie". I also bought 1 of her cookbook and if you're not a huge porridge fan wouldn't recommend it. There is barely anything else in there😅
I noticed that too. It triggers me sooo much to the point i feel incredibly bad about what i ate during that day. I really like her sorkouts though, but i might unfollow her just for my own sanity.😅
Ikr. I do her workouts when I want a quick and easy body weight routine. However, her stance on food is a big no no for me. It just screams orthorexia, and reminds me of my ultra restrictive days. Like I remember her refusing a piece of cake for her lingere launch party because she wasn't 'allowed'. If your diet is so consuming that you can't even relax and enjoy a treat during a celebration, then I think its time to reconsider the diet. But I do get where she's coming from. This is her brand, her liveleyhood. Being restrictive is likely the only way she believes she can keep her body and her buisness.
Oh yeah let’s hate on a fit, beautiful girl who inspires millions to move their bodies because all the unhealthy ppl get annoyed when they see her. Abbey, you’re spreading hate here! Do you not see it?? Just look at the comments
A little weigh-in from a German native speaker (I'm from Austria) regarding the language: There is absolutely no way that she didn't know how to word it better. Most German speakers in my age (33) and younger are very well-versed with English as a second language (except if they have had very little education and live a very rural life). And the sentence of "having a flat tummy and toned thighs not being that hard" would also be an incredibly tone-deaf and offensive and simply f*ing bad writing in German as well. The only difference is that in the German-speaking region fatphobia and a "slim lifestyle" are going much stronger than in the US. She wouldn't even necessarily have needed an English native speaker for translation but simply someone who is better at writing copy to market her app.
Pamela’s had a serious bloating problem in the past which she featured on her Instagram stories. I sensed some faulty things with her diet philosophy, but wonder how she looks that good.
i think for the peanutbutter chicken she recommends eating it with rice. i also think she does the whole not drinking water an hour before a meal is because it helped with her bloating.
Yeah but it’s sort of like how some people have a lot of trouble digesting lactose and decide to tell everyone that dairy is the worst thing to eat and not eating it will cure ailments from bloating to redness. When in reality everyone is different and what we perceive to help us feel better may just be specific to us or even a placebo effect from creating a plan to address an issue. I don’t have an issue with her deciding her body works better if she doesn’t drink water around meals, but when you charge money for people to give your advice on nutrition it should at least be reviewed and endorsed by a nutritionist. Her peers do this! Caroline Girvan has a nutritionist give her nutrition advice for her programs and Madfit worked with a nutritionist on her app.
@@caitiedidit i don’t think she forced people to believe this i think in the app she just said that it worked for her. i don’t think she’s saying “you’ll be bloated if you don’t do this”. i think she mostly made the app for recipes and the blog posts are second. her blog post are what she does and thinks about food, from what she said in her story on instagram.
