A lot of people think that these cars are identical to one another that they just have different names... We wanted to take some time and point out the differences that make these cars different from one another. Hope you enjoy!
@@ericnoble3475 especially these in particular, I remember a friends mom had a mint 340 Cuda with like 28K miles on it when I was in high school, late 90's, i don't remember what she sold it for but I remember her turning down 30K for it on several occasions
My dad was a travelling salesman in the 60's and 70's and drove strictly Mopar. He put so many miles on that he got a new car every year. One year he drove up in a Superbird. My jaw dropped and I asked (incredulously) if he really got this. Sadly, he didn't. The dealer just let him bring it home for the weekend. But our house was the coolest one on the block for that weekend.
Back when dealers would left you drive off with the car, go pick up the family, and see how they liked it. Often you could keep it overnight and for some customers, for the weekend.
I'm so happy to see that there is somebody on earth that possesses these two cars and wasn't stupid enough to modify the engines or do anything weird to them and has preserved them as they are
I have never even seen either of these cars in person so I am sooo jealous that he has multiple ones, not that I could afford to buy or restore one, so I guess it evens out.
@@highjix When I was a kid in the early 70's there was a yellow Daytona just like the one in this video that sat on a used car lot down the road from our house for well over a year that they couldn't sell, it's price continually dropped until they finally got rid of it. I remember seeing it covered in snow from my bedroom window and the wing on the back was the only way you could tell it from all the other snow covered cars, people go crazy about cars like this now but the fact is back in the day hardly anyone wanted them.
@@jcnpresser It got even worse for cars of that era further down the line, by the time I was in high school in the early 80's your average late 60's early 70's muscle type cars were going from $500 to $1500 depending on condition, now that doesn't include some late 60's COPO Camaro of course and by then the aero cars like one of these started to rise in price, but your run of the mill V8 powered Camaros and Mustang's and Polara's went for that kind of money, high school kids with after school jobs could buy them because by the early 80's no one wanted a 10 to 15 year old car that was a notorious gas guzzler, the general public didn't want something like that and the only people that cared about them were gear heads, and back then your average dentist or doctor weren't gear heads, they're the ones nowadays that are driving the prices of cars like that through the roof, but back then they didn't care about them, back in those days people with money considered something like that a bad investment.
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism this is a comparison between a Charger Daytona and a Road Runner Super bird! They both are factory original. Not a Charger and a Road Runner. Next time know what you're talking about before trying to sound like it! Js
No doubt Mopar went bonkers with winning and this was the pinnacle of hp style and performance. 1970 best year for American muscle. Mopar ruled. Great video
@@davidthayer6969 I didn't say they won more than anyone else. This was the car that brought petty back to Plymouth. It was the car that Bobby Isaac's drove over 200 mph. They were the most far out thing Detroit ever produced. 1970 was the best year for every muscle car made. LS6 450 hp 454 chevelles, 427 copo yenkos camaros, novas and chevelles, Baldwin motion cars, ,L88 Corvettes, stage 4 ram air GTOs, 440 six pack challengers, 426 hemi cudas, runners with ramcharger and air grabber pop up hoods ( most menacing deterrent for opposition on the street.) coolest item ever put on any muscle car. There were 455 GSX Buicks, 396/427 SS novas boss 429 mustangs. 428 cobra jet cyclones, AMC 390 scramblers Yeah. R/T charger 440and hemi coronets, super bees and chargers. Every car was at the peak performance, design and horsepower. 1970 was the best by far
@@held1823 I was agreeing with you, sarcasm doesn't come across well online sorry for the misunderstanding hah! I was more so referring to the other person not paying attention to win % etc.
They were just unusual and a little to far ahead of their time It’s like Black Sabbath in 1969 creating heavy metal before guitar shredding was even a thing At a time where fast was medium speed and muscle cars where still growing
I had a 69 Buick GS with a 400 CI "slap stick" automatic transmission. It would have embarrassed either of these posers. That goofy spoiler served absolutely no purpose below 180 mph, and that nose cone was just an add on to allow for retractable headlights, that proved to be a nightmare for those stupid enough to buy either of those cars. Constant maintenance onnnthe lights and overheating issues. Most of the people I ran with in those days thought Mopar was a joke, except the Plymouth Challenger, it was an awesome design.
The vents over the wheel of the Daytona are functional. It bleeds off wind turbulence out of the wheel well reducing drag at high speeds. Alot of modern super cars actually have this design on their track focused cars. You can tell the Daytona was built by engineers and the Super bird was built by designers. The Daytona is by far the model I'd rather have if I could pick 1.
From what Ive heard, the vents are to allow more clearance for the wheels. If you didnt race or intend to race the car there is no hole, but the vent is still installed.
I remember riding the school bus in 70/71 and they had three of these in the front row of the local dealership. Not sure whether they were Plymouth or Dodge but it seemed like they sat there for a few years before being sold. My dad would always say who the *%ll would buy that when we drove by in our station wagon. 😁😁
Haha yeah, easy to be clever in 2021, who could have imagined? Would easily choose to go back there and buy a few of them, long term storage and just wait cause today they would be worth a fortune
While they are collectible, aesthetically they are atrocious in design. Heavy, disproportionate, American junk design. Its not an appealing looking car I don’t know why people are into these, especially when there are plenty of other American muscle cars that look so much better
As an old hard case Chevy guy I really appreciate this video. I bought a 1970 super bee in 1971 drove it for 10 years then let it go for a family car. Sure miss it now, most likely never have another one because of the cost. Old Mopars buddy of mine told me one time that Chrysler didn't make cars to slice through the air they just beat it into submission. He was pretty much right. I love the old Mopars.
I was born in '97 and I saw a Plymouth superbird rolling down the interstate a couple months ago in Austin, TX. I've seen plenty of nice cars, Porsche 911's , Lamborghini's, Rolls Royce's, and even Bugatti's; but this car was the one and only Plymouth I've ever seen in my life and I was late to work because I watched it ten miles past my exit and had to loop back. Beautiful car for sure!
I looked at those and decided they were too long and flashy, insurance was high, bought a 1970 Barracuda AAR 340 for $6800 in 1970. Was tempted to buy a hemi road runner. Wish I had kept it. Those were the days.
Owned a 70 roadrunner 440 pistol grip 4 spd. 70 challenger 383 auto, 70 amx 390 4spd. 70 chevelle 375hp 4spd all at different times. Believe it or not challenger was fastest at 154 mph, while amx was quickest to about 90. Now that I'm old I've got a little black 67 camaro that pulls a sub 11 qtr mile and my grandsons don't yet appreciate!
@@kingboagart899 I'm about to start working on cars myself. Im looking at getting 83 3rd gen Camaro to start working on. I could get a 2019 1SS, but I love the older muscle man.
Having driven my buddy’s Super Bird with a 440 six pack and 4 speed, at high speed, it was practically glued to the road. Hit a bump and the down force slammed you back down. Absolute joy to drive when we would go Porsche hunting on the freeways of San Jose.
@Peter Angles 😂 no Camry, an Acura MDX, but would love a Subaru or a Mazda Miata with a standard tranny to race through the Santa Cruz mountains. As for the Superbird, at speed on the freeways, the aerodynamics kicked in by pushing it down. Yes, on mountain roads it sucked, and the brakes on cars back then were garbage after a few hard slow downs. But FUN to drive.
Well if I had to choose I'm going with the Daytona. When I was a kid my grandmother lived in Covington Ky and the was a orange Daytona parked down the street from her home I don't think there was a corner on that car that wasn't dented. I always wondered what happened to it I hope someone saved it.
Pretty sure that ended up in possession of a family friend who is deceased now. he used to have pictures of one beat to hell he restored and sold it sometime in the 90s if it’s the same one . If I can get pics I’ll post one who knows.
Between the two, I go for the Plymouth Roadrunner Superbird. Glad you are keeping the memory and legacy of these cars. My uncle up in Indianapolis who back then worked for Chrysler 30th Street and retired from the Foundry on Tibbs Ave had Dodge Chargers every year in the late 60's and early 70's. I remember the '70 real well back then when my little fingers got caught between the door and the door frame by the latch from the outside when it closed unexpectedly. It was quite painful I remember.
I just found your RU-vid channel and this video had me smiling all the way through. Thank you so very much for all the information. Sir, there are so many of us out here that are beholding to collector's like yourself, if it weren't for you these awesome automobiles wouldn't exist. Sir, thank you very much........ needless to say I subbed immediately.
My dad bought a 440 pistol grip 4spd bench seat SuperBird back in 1983. Restored it and showed it for many years. Sold it back in 1997 for 20Gs. I heard the story for many years on how much their worth day, till he just passed. The fender scoops were there for tire clearance for NasCar racing. We still have have a mint 1969 340 Dart with only 34,000 miles. Best of times.
As a Chevy guy, it’s great to learn this. Wing cars, mopars have always been more rare. The prices for any classic have gone crazy in the past years! Nice to see original type cars, not some over the top, modified restomod. I appreciate the modified cars and the work, but sometimes it’s just to much. Stock is just plain cool!
Nice vid! The rear end of the Daytona does it for me. Next time, maybe give us a shot of those wing supports in the trunk and you never did show us the rear window "plug".
My grandpa worked for the Vernon M Ball dealership as a mechanic back in the 60's and my dad remembers a green Super Bird in the area back in the 70's (We are from the Elkhart, IN area). It was most likely this same one!!
Thanks, I always wondered what the differences were past the obvious vinyl and wing. They're so rare it's hard to find both parked next to each other. I suspect the fender holes on the Dodge are to reduce air pressure in the wheel well which lowers turbulence and helps stability.
Thank you for your time. It's guys like you and Leno preserving history that keep us informed! I'd question you to death if I ever met you about this and that but it's out of appreciation. Take care
I learned few new things. I always thought the vinyl tops, rear ends, gas fill locations and side front markers was the only difference. The rest what you said I had know ideal. Thanks teaching me new difference on when I look to get 1 in the future.
A yellow 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona with a black wing is my all-time, gotta-have-it, can't-live-without-it, would-do-anything-to-get-it, favorite dream car. Thanks to David Spade and his creation of Joe Dirt.
Thank you for presenting the cars and talking about their differences. They are all nice. I grew up in Milwaukee, WI. I was 10 years old in 1971 and used to see these cars on the road back then. A guy that lived down the street had a yellow Superbird and I always enjoyed seeing the car. Fortunately I only saw the winged cars being driven in summer.
Thanks so much for making this video It’s so useful to know the differences between the two cars and I’ve always loved both the Daytona and the super bird so thanks so much for the video and I reckon you explained it really well
I’m 12 and some people might scoff and say someone as young as me who wasn’t around when these cars were made but I do love both these cars. Amazing examples.
I grew up in Greenwood, Indiana and first saw one of these new in White land, Indiana. I eventually owned a '69 Charger but never a Wing car... Unbelievable. Thank you for sharing.
Just watched this in June '22. These cars have been my grail of grails since I was a teen ... maybe even before. There was always one parked in the 500 block of Vickroy Ave in the Ferndale section of Johnstown, PA in the 1970s. It stood out like no other car on the block!!! I loved that car! I later met a kid in HS who's dream car was also the Superbird, and MoPars in general. I learned as much as I could about the Superbird and Daytona through books, magazines and word of mouth. Now all it takes is a good hour on Google to learn what took me years. Anyways. Glad to see these beauties being restored and cherished.
It's a very informative video, with some information I didn't know before. The only thing that I take issue with is the Superbird vinyl top question. A vinyl top isn't able to hide rough, uneven or bad bodywork. It will show right under the vinyl. I've read in various older car magazines that the vinyl roof was used for aerodynamic reasons. This is why you actually saw Superbirds with vinyl roofs at NASCAR. The theory at the time was it would improve laminar airflow, similar to how the dimpled surface of a golf ball does. Of course, later testing showed that it made no difference whatsoever. The amount of time to properly apply a vinyl roof would be roughly the same as that to fill the seams on a plug. Some articles support this and others don't, which only added to the confusion.
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Very Cool. I had to watch this after seeing the Bonneville 71 short film. Really neat to see the similarities and differences between these 2 beautiful cars. Thank you for sharing.
I just wanna find a 70’s charger, clean it up really well and convert it to a Daytona, and cherish it. My absolute dream car and I hate on how rare and expensive they are to get one
Here's a fun (or not so fun) fact for you, the Daytona in the movie Joe Dirt was a real Daytona and not a conversion as most people assume, the scene where the rear wing gets ripped off was a wooden mockup that was used for that scene only, the car is an actual collector grade Daytona that was "uglied up" by the Hollywood crew with special paint that'll wash off that gave it that weathered rust bucket look, about 6 years ago it was for sale, the owner left it in the condition it was for the movie hoping it would sell for more than a regular Daytona having it's movie tie in, it was listed with all the original parts to convert it back over from it's movie mods.
@@trentwatts3997 Yea it's a hysterical movie, and when I read about the car being for sale and saw pictures of it before the Hollywood people worked it over I couldn't believe it was a real Daytona, I expected it to be a mock up based on a regular Charger, as I recall it's actually that Plum Crazy color underneath the temporary paint job, if you watch the movie you can see a shot of him in the car at the booth where the security guard gives him a hard time, if you pause and look past him at the inside of the passenger door you can see purple (if I remember correctly) overspray on the door as would be expected from a factory paint job and that piece of translucent plastic that's under the door panel which was removed as part of uglying it up for the movie.
Wow 😍 what a video. This is good stuff. Dang I could listen to this guy a while. This is detailed. This rocks! 😎👍 Thank you for putting this out there.
Learned something today. Thanks for posting this video. I had the same problems with the license plate with my Barracuda. Simple solution: Cut a piece of wood, varnish optional, a couple pieces of foam at each end to protect the paint and you have a prop for your license plate. Much easier to gas up. Best Regards - Mike
Dad had a 70 or 72 Fury and it had a 440cid. The engine bay made the 440 look tiny. A school bus fell on top of it and car roof dented very little while the kids were evacuating from bus. It was a tank to say the least.
Wow... tha k you for this video. Always loved the charger....until the newer body styles anyway and I've been a car guy for 35 years and love seeing the differences between both of these beautiful beast!!!! Keep up the good work
I used to work with a guy who told me one time when he was a teenager he and his father were at a Chrysler dealership looking for a new station wagon when they saw a Plymouth superbird in the showroom and his father said "that is the ugliest car I've ever seen" if he only knew what it would be worth now.
Many dealers found those Superbirds hard to sell. Some even converted the pointed front to a standard Roadrunner. It wasn't until 1972 that the last new Superbird was finally sold.
Gorgeous cars , I've always loved these cars , unfortunitly I am not a millionaire so my dreams of ever owning one will never happen , but I do love seeing them .
Excellent. I've owned 4 (6 MOPARs. counting a 1968 Coronet station wagon with a 383 and an Aspen RT). 1968 Charger RT 440x4 bbl, a 1969 440x4 GTX, a 1970 440x4 Challenger RT/SE and a 1972 Challenger 340x4 RT. All having TorqueFlites. A friend and I put a HEMI in a 1968 Dodge Van, which we drove to high school and he bought a 1966 HEMI Charger , yellow automatic from the original owner for $850 in 1975, which he later sold to Rick Finch, the bass player for KC and the Sunshine Band. I was lucky enough to grow up when the best muscle cars were made. Which includes a 1962 Ford Galaxy with a 406 3x2 bbl with a four speed (my next door neighbor) and across the street a 1962 Impala with a 409 four speed. 1/2 block away, a husband and wife with a 1962 Galaxy 406 and a 1963 Galaxy 427. Both red with white interior. And it goes on... Great Life
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My brother bought a new Superbird in 1970 for about $4800.00. I loved that car. I couldn't afford Superbird back then but in 1973 I bought a 68 GTX for $440.00 and a 69 Roadrunner for $675.00 both in excellent condition and very fast. I regret selling them to this day. I'd like to have another Roadrunner but they are really expensive now.
It's a shame about the sound quality on this otherwise excellent video. Just when you thought it couldn't get more annoying than the wind noise the doggo chimes in.
The wing angle was something I was always curious about when both vehicles were running in NASCAR, as I'd always study the print photos of them side-by-side on the speedways, where I'd do my best to discern the differences between the body-styling of both vehicles. The front end was easy to tell apart, but the rear wing always had me puzzled; probably due to the paint and decals on the vehicles distorting the looks of the bodylines.
Great video, sir. Did I read somewhere that the wing difference on the bird was for trunk lid clearance? I'm sorry but that music at the end covering up the hemi sound was appalling. Sorry. I remember in 1970 I was in 2nd grade in Laredo, TX. and an orange bird would pick up one of the other students, there.
The height of the wings has nothing to do with trunk clearance (just ended up working in addition to height of the wing ) like many people think. It actually was put up that high above the roof because that was the most optimal place for the wing to create down force at high speeds. The vents on top of the Daytonas fenders are actually meant to channel negative air pressure in the wheel wells outward so you don’t get front end lift.
@@farewell_to_normalcy9352 Excellent! I smelled a rat about this guy when he called the hemi Daytona an automatic four speed!! In one of his other cartoon/rich guy/keystone cops videos. Did you see that one? How about, in this video when he practically threw up, coughing, into his hand! I almost threw up too, because it's super gross 😝 and you know that's how he acts in real life! I hope he checks the blinker fluid on his #'s matching muffler bearings! Do you think he knows that a metric crescent wrench works on American bolts, also? Ahahahahah 🤣
@@mrkemblegilstrap and the daytona is a charger R/T ? nooooo it is not , it is a 500 . guy might have a few dollars to throw round but i'll race my Porsche against him and his daytona charger title for title any day
Just the fact that you have one of each is pretty epic. My all time fav Muscle car is the Superbird. Love the color and love that you have the Roadrunner decal. Awesome video. very instructive. I actually see a small model of the car through the back windshield. pretty girls riding the wings. Bonuses for having the car to begin with.
In the small Canadian city where I lived I can only remember seeing one legit Plymouth Superbird on the road in the early 70s. The Dodge Daytona I've never seen in my life as a licensed vehicle on a Canadian roadway. Of course the Superbird had a stratospheric cool factor, yet most of my friends aspired to grow-up and own a Barracuda, Camaro, Corvette or Super Bee. The Superbird and Daytona Charger seemed mythical and unattainable back-in-the-day.
Ha! Same. I remember the cook at the pizza joint I'd frequent with friends had a Superbird. He had it parked out front all the time. This was out in St.Albert, Alberta around 88 - 89. White with a lot of rust unfortunately. Still, we used to drool over that car as much as the pizza.
@@danbaumann8273 Righteous recollection my Canadian brother. Those cars seemed unattainable back-in-the-day. Yet, they gave us all the belief anything was possible in our young lives. A better time in this country.
@@johnpatterson4272 Yeah it was very cool. As rare as hens teeth. I don't think Ive ever seen another one around there. Somehow recall one or two at car shows but that's about it. We did though have a few beautiful muscle cars around that town. I remember the two 67 Beaumont SD's and the 66 Chevelle SS I owned for a short spell. Sure wish I still had her. And yeah, I have to largely agree with you about that last bit too my friend. Here's hoping. Cheers. 🍻 🇨🇦
@@nicholaslokos7949 IM SAYING, how come they have one of the richest and flashiest car cultures yet they have the strictest laws against them. not to mention there are a bunch of car media influencers over there too.