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Digital Devil Saga Part 14 - MOST MISUNDERSTOOD PARTY MEMBER! 

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The one unfairly hated by GameFAQs finally makes his debut!

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@firecraft7032
@firecraft7032 2 месяца назад
Ngl, Gale questioning why everyone has gone off their rocker is hilarious
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Gale is the Only Sane Man... by virtue of being te only currently emotionless one.
@frankieseward8667
@frankieseward8667 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy i get the feeling one way or another it'll change
@NEEDbacon
@NEEDbacon 2 месяца назад
15:46 The name change for the added in credit was cute. Also nice to see someone just DONE with bat from the word go.
@stfilo1948
@stfilo1948 2 месяца назад
Love how even if this game most of the time is taking itself seriously there are still some goofy moment like cielo saying that Argilla is very different than Sera.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
This game has a pretty good balance of goofy moments for the party that don't feel like they clash with the overall tone, it's interesting.
@frankieseward8667
@frankieseward8667 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy certainly better than the persona trilogy surprisingly
@nitro4769
@nitro4769 2 месяца назад
Cielo is a flying elec user with good agility. That makes him a Thundercougarfalconbird!
@EmperorSephirothII
@EmperorSephirothII 2 месяца назад
14:22 RIP Cielo. Just be glad they didn't make YOU be the decoy.
@jaredfayette2567
@jaredfayette2567 2 месяца назад
Imagine though. Like, imagine being Bat, thinking you found Sera, and as you turn them around you hear "You got da wrong one mon," before Cielo pops out his super laser attack from the last episode and that's how you die after being jump scared by a Jamaican accent. ... I put way too much thought into this remark. lmao
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
If Cielo was the decoy, he'd destroy the entire Brutes tribe right here somehow.
@frankieseward8667
@frankieseward8667 2 месяца назад
So people hated him because he was weak to aliments, which is fixable via mantra? The fact he has no weakness to elements is a good boon. Plus he's ridiculously fast and lucky. And has sime good starting mantras. Seriously I'm glad Game FAQs is less relevant. Those guys are cancer sometimes. Also Bat you're gonna have a plate full comeuppance next time. Trust me
@rfmerrill
@rfmerrill 2 месяца назад
You can get null for individual ailments early, but not *all* ailments, that is actually a much harder passive to get. So you either have to swap null skills onto him as the situation calls for them, take up five skill slots with all of them, or grind a lot deeper to get the one that nulls everything.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
I've said this before but personally I feel that you only really need 3 ailment nulls at most, for most situations. (Not a lot of bosses use Mute, or at least, don't use specific Mute attacks. Demi-Fiend's Mute side effects don't get press turns off Cielo.)
@gameothegreat3731
@gameothegreat3731 2 месяца назад
@@rfmerrill witch mantra gives null ailments
@funhow123
@funhow123 2 месяца назад
YES CIELO MY FAVORITE PARTY MEMBER I love his design and demon and its really funny to me that if you know how mantras work he can become like really good in terms of press turns and having your enemies not getting a extra turn
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Cielo is one of my favourites too for those exact reasons.
@kertuo
@kertuo 2 месяца назад
Cielo is such a goat, especially at a specific boss at DDS 2
@bradleyharris774
@bradleyharris774 2 месяца назад
15:44. Oh wow, I didn't know Bryce Papenbrook's dad was a VA for this game. Definitely agree with you on Cielo. He is definitely this game's "Lethal Joke Character" because of how the Press Turn system interacts with Null Ailment skills. I've seen Let Players in more recent year talk about broken Cielo is because he can be set up to sit there and drain your opponent's press-turns. 38:35. Now that I think about it, the way Cielo is treated by early GameFAQs reminds me of Emblem Leif from Engage. A lot of players misunderstood what they were designed for, Cielo stealing Press Turns and Leif for having some of the best Skill Inheritance in the game (Built+, Vantage, and giving all Weapon Proficiencies except Tomes and Arts)
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
15:44 I wasn't sure they were related, but looking it up, yes they are! Sadly Bob passed away in the late 2000's. Thankfully opinions on Cielo are changing. 38:35 Yeah, a shocking first impression followed up by more experienced players realizing they aren't that bad.
@MudFan
@MudFan 2 месяца назад
The interactions at the boat were really nice, the characters in this game are starting to become very cool.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
The gradual development this party has is amazing.
@AlizardJaeF
@AlizardJaeF 2 месяца назад
0:50 I can't help but imagine Heat trying to offer Sera parts of a corpse while asking that. It's the nicest thing he's ever done, for what it's worth. 0:57 She probably eats the rations and stuff that everyone was eating before the mass demonization. 14:05 Where'd they get the wig?
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
0:50 He WOULD do that. 0:57 Probably. 14:05 ........It was on the ship?
@DiegoG2004
@DiegoG2004 2 месяца назад
Cielo is a true SMT player. 2:18 Infinite use Dia spell. Of course on Serph, "Small" heal is still your whole health bar. 2:44 It really is a Repel from Pokemon. 7:20 Somehow i'm inclined to say no... 8:41 Wrong Karma T, transition. 14:02 Sera with pink contact lenses. And big lips. 14:17 Snrk... 15:44 Oh, that's also canon and not part of the funny voice overs of challenge runs. 24:53 Time to say hi to random encounters. 28:26 We must avoid the meme number. 31:05 You kinda have to unless you're a masochist that enjoys solo runs... 33:43 Supporter weak to Ailments, must hit weakness. Oh wait he actually nulls Ailments there go my turns. 42:18 Nah, Fire from Serph is good enough.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
2:18 Yeah that's probably why I'm less inclined to buy this. 2:44 But without the BW2 QoL asking if you'd like to use another. 14:02 And thicker arms apparently. 15:44 Varin REALLY wants everyone to know his name is Colonel Beck.
@Paws42
@Paws42 2 месяца назад
@Ah yes the Public Display of Affection xD From what I remember it's in R&C 1, 3, and the PSP games. In Size Matters it's pretty much mandatory because the final boss there is such a damage sponge
@greenrangerfan1993
@greenrangerfan1993 Месяц назад
10:39 Sera acting like an actual teenager. At least she acts like her age. (Without knowing the truth about her, don’t spoil it)
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Месяц назад
Yeah that's why I like this dialogue.
@hannahmonteiro9229
@hannahmonteiro9229 2 месяца назад
27:34 You devoured the enemies earlier, that's why Cielo gained so little AP.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Yeah that'd explain it.
@danielm.5078
@danielm.5078 2 месяца назад
I feel like having more status susceptibility is a worthy tradeoff for having no weaknesses, and as you've gone into in the comments you don't have to null every status for him. In general I think it loops back around to Cielo being a generalist when the cast up until this point have been more specialized.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
And yet Gale's a generalist and most people loved him.
@sealegion4070
@sealegion4070 2 месяца назад
9:28 I really love 'abandoned ship' dungeons, mostly because you can get really creative with them. It doesn't even have to be a boat ship! Usually there's also some form of melancholic atmosphere too, like in the dungeons you mentioned, which I am a sucker for. Not in this one though - but I do quite like how tense it feels at the start. 13:50 Cielo's reaction to just BACK UP and his slight eye twitch make me laugh every time. 14:32 also hi jamieson price 15:43 Okay, that's a great little change.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
9:28 Abandoned spaceships are also cool. 15:43 Beck REALLY doesn't like being called Varin.
@bahamutxero9573
@bahamutxero9573 Месяц назад
I actually picked up on Cielo's greatness right away. I blame the hate on people being impatient and not thinking things through. I honestly don't get the purpose behind speedruns or other "challenges". I guess they're more important to LP's and streamers to get though more games faster, but for the now SMT/JRPer in my 40's, I like to take my time enjoy the games I play analyzing mechanics and optimize as I go. That's what drew me to Persona/SMT in the first place. The lore behind all the character's/demons/Persona's is just so subversive that I'm spent hours researching all the different mythologies/phycological concepts and I just find it so fascinating.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Месяц назад
I like to take my time too, but I appreciate speedruns because sometimes they reveal which tactics are broken (it's how I discovered putting all Serph's points into Magic) in turn-based games. Let's just say Tentarafoo in DDS2 is kind of insane.
@bahamutxero9573
@bahamutxero9573 Месяц назад
@@BigKlingy That's definitely something a my completionist side can appreciate. I tend to make my main characters mages any chance I get (one of the reasons I loved the Quality of Death mod for Nocturne), so it makes so happy to see it's not only a viable, but OP build in this game.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Месяц назад
lol that mod name. But Magic builds are actually pretty good for early Nocturne. I'm glad for mods that make it good in endgame though. Magma Axis is a cool skill that deserves more love.
@ianjordan8964
@ianjordan8964 2 месяца назад
15:00 Until "sera" talked i though they had dressed up heat as sera.
@blizzardforonline1954
@blizzardforonline1954 2 месяца назад
Check the eyes again. Heat has red eyes.
@kap1618
@kap1618 2 месяца назад
Once you get the gang together, this game gives off some serious Wolf's Rain vibes to me. (If anyone remembers that 2000s anime.) That's probably why I love these games so much.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
I have no idea what that anime is but I'm going to agree.
@ikhwananimationsbeyondweeb4528
@ikhwananimationsbeyondweeb4528 2 месяца назад
24:29 Sounds like Gale is the Metis to Serph's Aigis 38:56 On the contrary, Human Only runs really likes to use Cielo cus he's considered as one of the best unit in the game Cielo's gun could fire 3 - 7 shots, whereas Gale fires 2 - 5 shots For more elaboration, look at the first game's challenge run and go to the Abandoned Ship chapter
@galladeforce
@galladeforce 2 месяца назад
Something I find interesting is the fact that we had to deal the Solids for 3 full dungeons when I don’t remember many RPGs with multiple enemy fractions when you deal with one foe that long. 1:54 Considering that Estoma Spray is well as a spray and the enemies want to eat us, does it make us smell so bad that the demons don’t want to try eating us. 9:41 Considering where this thing ended up would this be a Desert-Ed Ship. 14:07 This is the kind of a disguise that i do not think would work in any other context apart from being viewed for a distance. I find that in media when it comes to disguises like this It tends break my suspensions of disbelief if it works against someone who should know what that person looks like, where you have a character disguised as another through just clothing and a wig it makes sense for the person they are tricking to be fooled if they haven’t seen the person before and only habe a descriptor, using a Pokémon comparison I find that in Janine’s Gym her Gym Trainers would be quite convincing if the challenger has never met Janine before, Bat has Here unless it’s just only random members of the Brutes seeing the disguised Argilla Bat and Varin Omega are going to bust what happens wide open. Since it wasn’t being used the way I do feel it works though. Also I don’t think it’s ever been brought up and it isn’t the easiest to notice but Argilla has a scar down her face. 15:44. While I know who Colonel Beck’s Voice Actor is he is someone I do not really have any connection to as a voice actor, since while as it turns it I do have familiarity with some of his roles, mainly the fact that he was a staple voice actor both Power Rangers and Digimon early on when Saban was producing them, otherwise a lot of his roles where before I got into Anime and Video Games. And sadly the fact that he died 18 years ago would make him relatively obscure as a voice actor, to someone who wasn’t around back then I feel people would be asking if he is related to Bryce Papenbrook (Which is yes as he is Bryce’s Father) rather than any of his roles, 15:58 I should say that he does sound like a stereotypical Army Colonel 18:31 You know I actually kind of like that we are forced to use Cielo, even if his base level wasn’t comparable to every one else I don’t like seeing party members being ignored in JRPG even though they can be useful and people can be unwilling to try other options, here you have a part of the story where your only party competition has to involve him. 19:01 I don’t see Cielo weaknesses as inherently the worst thing ever and not enough to condemn him to being bad, being more comparable to the others weaknesses than those old forums would say. Being that while enemies will have Ailments it’s not like every enemy will have Ailments,it’s why being weak to Physical tends to be considered an issue, making his effectiveness enemy dependent like everyone else is, And considering it is harder Press Turns of off him since he doesn’t have an element weakness as a benefit while having a trade of being weaker to more things overall all. 20:37 I do feel like that does inherently make Cielo less versatile than other party, hence a weakness that has various detrimental effects when dungeon crawling if you want to get rid of his weakneses. Until you get Godly Spirit which itself requires, if I am reading right going through a lot of effort and money into mastering multiple lines of Mantras for only one skill that gets rid of his weakness As while passive skills to help his weaknesses are available a lot earlier than others, Since they would have to go through a full Mantra line of one element, it does mean that to make his weaknesses not apply during regular encounters, that’s around half his skilset full of passive skill and since regular eneocuntees are by default random you cannot exactly switch around which ones you have activel While by comparison you can either build more towards certain styles or give the other party members more options for regular encounters since for example I could go fully into Ice and Fire damage on Serph since the 6 skill slots for a elemental skill, Boost and Amp are free. Albeit with bosses which are set fights that you can control when you fight, that’s different, the Bonus Boss in Destiny Land has no ailments that Cielo is weak to, the Bonus Boss in the Vanguards base that I assume that guy in front of the Red Wall was talking about, he only needs Null Nerve. 24:09 So someone who speaks for the Protagonist who uses Wind, He is essentially Yosuke. Also talking about how Gape is used, the fact that he is the Embryon’s Strategist means that he has a lot of influence on the overall plot and the decisions the cast makes as a full unit, since their tactical moves in a story that relies on them for its plot is either decided by him or suggested by him. Even though he is a bit of side character in terms of specific focus, Serf, Heat and Argilla getting more dedicated character focus on them as individuals and arcs and seeming to have less authroity by himself than the former two, 24:58 With those colours and wearing full body suits the generic Brutes look like they came from Space Paranoids in Kingdom Hearts II 26:16 That is Chatterskull, I thought that was Utai Gaikotsu (Who has the same exact design) 34:11 I wouldn’t say that that is how your are meant to use Cielo, it is an option and a potential boon for him since he gets it earlier but not only can everyone else have acssess to similar ways of getting around their weaknesses and making the enemies use their turns on something useless, your party members go anywhere on the grid it is very much possible for them to also Null Ailments by going that way. He just so happens to get more benefits from that due to his weakness I do feel like Electrical damage, Light based and support due to having Healing, Buffs/Debuffs and Ailments was intentional due to what he starts with, as well as his stats making Magic damage, dodge tanking and ailments what he is better at. 38:41 While I do feel like old forums are wrong aboit him, but talking about it that way makes me worry the the Save Cielo movement is overcompensating, While yeah he does have notable strengths that the old forums where ignoring it and they where acting like his weaknesses when words than they are, hence being way too harsh while doing so, But that can lead to people exaggerating his strengths and downplaying his weaknesses when creating a counter-narrative. Like how some of the anti Blazing Blade backlash in Fire Emblem would be perpetuated by parts of the Binding Blade fanbase, since the common narrative used to be that Blazing Blade was way better.
@blazethegamerreacts1543
@blazethegamerreacts1543 2 месяца назад
Bat just Crossing everyone, stop it you are not Ocelot who did the whole Triple Crossing thing in MGS3
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Or Naesala.
@blazethegamerreacts1543
@blazethegamerreacts1543 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy or that too
@Lauren-tg5jj
@Lauren-tg5jj Месяц назад
I don’t know how well it would fit exactly, but if they ever do a DDS remaster it’d be nice to see Bryce Papenbrook voicing Varin, since his dad was the OG. I’m sure he could do a deeper voice but I can’t think of any examples off the top of my head.
@rfmerrill
@rfmerrill 2 месяца назад
You need five separate passives (I think? null charm, poison, nerve, panic, mute) to completely cover Cielo's weakness in this game, unless you go all the way for "null ailment" which is one of the hardest mantras to get in the game. That's a lot of skill slots used up unless you already know what you're going to face and can pick and choose. They made null ailment much easier to get in 2, which is part of why he ended up in my final party in that game.
@bradleyharris774
@bradleyharris774 2 месяца назад
Equipping every individual Null ailment passive wouldn't be necessary because a common strategy I see from people for Digital Devil Saga is to go into the boss with whatever you have, take some notes on what the boss uses, eventually die and readjust your party accordingly.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Personally I find Null Nerve, Null Charm and Null Panic is enough to get by in most regular battles. That's three skill slots, but most others are running Boost and Amp for their elements anyway.
@corpussakahagi2116
@corpussakahagi2116 2 месяца назад
@@bradleyharris774 The Superboss will auto-kill you if you have any immunities set when starting the fight, so Null Critical and Null Sleep are the only Null skills allowed for that specific fight.
@filipower776
@filipower776 2 месяца назад
i personally don't like using Cielo in the active party towards the endgame, but i do like stacking up all the healing abilities on him, including ailment heals, so he becomes a true walking (flying?) terminal
@leemcknight4862
@leemcknight4862 2 месяца назад
That Jamaican accent and plus getting hit by her is the icing on the cake😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
THIS is an Atlus RPG comedy scene done right (sorry Persona 4/5).
@frankieseward8667
@frankieseward8667 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy because Cileo actually gets great moments too and he isn't a buttmonkey like others cough cough Yosuke and Teddie cough cough.
@lawftbykurama8103
@lawftbykurama8103 2 месяца назад
Naga has another weakness if you used a spyglass or analyze
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
With Fire on Serph though I don't need much else.
@ThaPlaya1994
@ThaPlaya1994 2 месяца назад
At last. Though trials and tribulations(binge watching) I have caught up to the playthough. Quick sum up on my feelings so far: -Everyone has the munchies -Heat is a jerk. Mostly. -Argilla is my favorite -Gale is a meme(and that's great) -Cielo is Jamaican(and that's great) -Sera is here -Balanced Serph is my favorite Serph I never thought Cielo was bad. But I didn't use him that much. Used him a lot more in the second game though.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Sera gets expanded on way more in the sequel, I'm looking forward to that.
@xenoinazuma7631
@xenoinazuma7631 2 месяца назад
Cielo. I remember being so confused at the hate and how people thought he was only useful against the infamous Superboss. Firstly because I didn’t know the Superboss existed at first. And secondly because I noticed how kinda busted he is in both games. It is to a point I try to play both games without him in the party unless he is the only third option because I am not confident enough to play the game with only two characters or even one. Though I am disappointed he didn’t start out with a unique laser spewing move. Oh well. At least he is the best at eating up foes turns. He can do it so well he can do it in his sleep. Ratchet 1 and 3 have the PDA it is quite late on the third game cause it is in Quark’s Hideout. I swear it is more useful in 3 but that might be because of the Gadgettron weapons not dropping ammo from crates. Though I do think it is used in speed runs of the first game and not the third funnily enough. Though the third game has so many powerful weapons and tech I am also not surprised that even with RaC 1’s discoveries and tech people still abuse that PDA to become god and skip the dreaded ice planet. Though the community is crazy I love it. I mean hey. People found Orxon Skip even if it was slower just to prove it was possible Also just coming off the direct and seeing this ship makes me hope for something similar from Prime 4. I wouldn’t mind another derelict vessel to traverse
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Oh right, yeah it's in Qwark's Hideout in 3. I don't remember it being that useful in 3. Also lol speedrun glitches. On one hand it's impressive, on the other, it hurts to see my childhood games broken so badly.
@shincadad7622
@shincadad7622 2 месяца назад
Cielo’s always been busted, it took a while but people finally noticed his value
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
I like it when characters in games get re-evaluated with time.
@frankieseward8667
@frankieseward8667 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy remember when people thought Isadora sucked? Or how Haru was misunderstood herself? Times truly do change
@SSBBPOKEFAN
@SSBBPOKEFAN 2 месяца назад
So, I'd recommend getting Dia on a 3rd party member. The Angelic Grace combo skill is really cool. 4/5 heal to the whole party+rakukaja!
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Ah right, yeah I could definitely do that. (I ended up getting that combo early in DDS2 and it's pretty useful)
@jaredfayette2567
@jaredfayette2567 2 месяца назад
2:04- I figure it's probably more like a bug spray or something, but I like to imagine the Estoma Spray is more like Pepper Spray so whenever we find an enemy counter, we just go "No" before spraying them. lol 2:23- Oh wow, didn't think they'd also have a buyable form of this item from Nocturne. Wonder when we'll find the Chakra Elixir equivalent. 6:32- ... ... ... So on this (unwanted) installment of the Writer's Barely Disguised Fetish... 9:14- Sounded like she's spending a lot of time with a Chaos Rep (even though the closest thing to something holy was also Chaos Rep sounding. A lot of chaos in this game I'm sensing). 9:38- Also the one ship in Super Star Saga that also was in the desert. Nothing a lot of games loving to put ships in the desert. 10:26- Klingy no! Don't teach them about those kinds of ships! We're talking about the boats here. lol 14:14: Cielo breaking the fourth wall, but I agree dude, this probably won't work well. Except being creepy as hell. Xp 14:25- RIP Cielo; Didn't learn about the "how to avoid certain tropes that'll get you hit" emotions. 16:50- Quite an interesting flashback. This Colonel seems to know a lot more than us. More about this world's nature... Hopefully we can get info out of him before we're forced to end him. 18:37- In all of JRPG history? This'll be an interesting one given the claim. 20:39- Plus, won't other party members need to make similar comprises if they want to have no weaknesses too? 27:47- "I wonder if people aboard this ship ate drugged chicken and they all fell asleep as a part of a complicated crime plot." - BigKlingy 2024. Also winner of the second most out of left field thing Klingy has said this year. 38:50- Don't worry Klingy, if you could dispel the BS about P4G's Valentine Events, you can also dispel the misconception here and show that Cielo's good. In other news, made more progress into Vengeance as I continue through, finding new and old things as I go. Hope to at least get a bit further soon, but I might not finish the first area by a smidge because of Master Duel grinding that I'll need to start catch up on by Friday or so. Also we got news for the Direct, if you want to see my thoughts, check Klingy's community post.
@BerserkerRohan
@BerserkerRohan 2 месяца назад
In Persona 1, it is called Clean Salt which also sounds kind of strange. Having an item like that would be very useful. Reminds me of something strange I saw before. I was also reminded of Resident Evil Dead Aim although the ship in that game is still on water. Cielo really be tempting fate. There are probably some FF characters that were pretty misunderstood. I am tempted to say Gau but his situation is that most people know he is good but a lot of people don't put in the work to make him good. On the surface, it does sound really bad to be weak to Panic and stuff but if it is easy to null, we can turn that weakness into an advantage. With Gale going after Debilitate eventually, it sounds nice to have Cielo around with buffs like Makakaja for example. Good to hear you are making good progress with Vengeance and good luck with Master Duel grinding as well. As for myself, probably will try to complete 1000 Miles after writing more comments since I have been a bit busy with those today. For TTYD, me and my brother managed to conquer that second half of the postgame so we have reached 100% completion. I did write my short review about it and I say I am more than content with it. I also read your review about it and I do feel like discussing a few things but let me know where you feel comfortable discussing it. Not sure what is going to happen next other than that Three Houses randomizer once we get back from holiday.
@jaredfayette2567
@jaredfayette2567 2 месяца назад
@@BerserkerRohan Okay that I can get since I think P1 actually deals with you fighting demons and in some places, salt is a way to repel evil and other wicked things, so salt being a repel item is clever. Yeah, while it came super late and was hidden well, the elixir was nice for the many fights you'd have in the final dungeon. That he is. Guess we have to be extra careful if characters can tempt fate as they learn how to have actual emotions. I'd have to look more into Gau's case, but I know plenty of misunderstood characters in many other games. I can at least understand where the confusion comes from as it's justifiable to be scared of a character weak to all of the aliments in a SMT game (where they're generally more powerful than most games), but it does kind of stun me how most didn't think to use the Mantra System to speed him down the way to get the anti-aliment passives for the longest time. Yeah, Cielo does look like he rounds out the team nicely as another support member. Many thanks. Likewise, good luck with catching up with your readings. Nicely done finishing up the last of the TTYD remake. And I just read and liked your review in the middle of writing this. Also if you want to talk more about it, Backloggd does have a comment section too, so we could discuss it there and given how my review is already set up with a spoiler warning, makes the odds of accidentally spoiling something less likely than here in this comment section if you want full thoughts/discussions. But for now, enjoy your holiday.
@BerserkerRohan
@BerserkerRohan 2 месяца назад
@@jaredfayette2567 You do fight demons in that game so it does make a good amount of sense. I can see it being a somewhat late item in DDS as well. Actually, Odin from Conquest is probably the main example now considering most people didn't think he was that great until they released he is pretty good with Nosferatu. Being weak to ailments must have been seen as a really bad first impression back in the day but with more knowledge of the game, it does seem very easy to conquer that weakness. He could fulfil similar roles to Argilla but I believe she has more magic than Cielo which is a big boon for her but nevertheless, Cielo is very solid in his own right. That is good to know. I will probably reply to it tomorrow once I find the time.
@Firemalleoandjelly
@Firemalleoandjelly 2 месяца назад
27:34 To be fair in that first fight, two of there were eaten by the others.
@PurpleStar929
@PurpleStar929 2 месяца назад
0:13 I'm surprised the Brutes even accepted him given how he ended up betraying every other faction he's ever been with. 0:32 He sold cells by the cell store. I am so hyped for Mario & Luigi Brothership. I also love how Luigi's exclamation mark is shaped like an L because of course it is. That Stray announcement really hurt because one of the cats at my grandma's house had apparently gotten into an accident with a lawnmower and hurt herself on her legs.
@madrox172b
@madrox172b 2 месяца назад
boost for the boost god
@ultimateshadow7522
@ultimateshadow7522 2 месяца назад
3:16 I like that they also refer to Serph as "boss." 4:12 Sera will remember when the plot demands it, I suppose. 6:29 Oooookaaaay.... 9:00 Ignorant greed: power, yes; knowledge, no. 9:32 That's the first thing I thought of when I saw that picture. 10:33 Hopefully this isn't a case of the Tower of Rem from Tales of the Abyss. 11:44 I now have a few three-second clips from Hades saved to my switch of using Hades's Call against Hades. My favorite are "Father!" "Son!" and "Father!" "Oh, shut up!" I just let those play on repeat when I'm feeling down. 13:27 Best reaction so far! 14:19 I take it back! 15:40 I'm fanboying a bit right now--that's the voice of Benito from Blinx 2 AND Vanderkham from Xenosaga Episode 1! 17:12 It's pretty safe to say whoever he is, he really hates Serph. 20:29 So he's basically Magic-based Shinjiro with gameplay and story integration? 21:49 Maybe they thought the changes they made justified the name change? 24:10 Interesting. Would Serph have been unawakened like Gale is too or was that trait always intended for Gale? 27:48 I understood that reference. 30:06 I wonder if the Xenoblade Laias are based off of these? 33:01 Arguably the worst two status ailments: nulled.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
11:44 Hades has a LOT of great reactions to stuff like that. 15:40 He's done a decent amount of work, though sadly he passed away in 2000. 24:10 I'd assume he'd stay unawakened for as long as Gale does. 27:48 Glad someone did. 30:06 Probably just the manta ray.
@absoul112
@absoul112 2 месяца назад
It's a little disappointing to learn that's why people didn't realize Cielo was good. I was expecting to hear that he's unorthodox for SMT
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
They just took one look at his ailment weakness and went "blegh". That was ALL.
@frankieseward8667
@frankieseward8667 2 месяца назад
​@@BigKlingygamefaqs can be cancer sometimes.
@andresalasthemessenger
@andresalasthemessenger 2 месяца назад
Cells to sell. Nice. 2 maps to be cleared & missing? Huh. Good. Sera? In many locations.. Odd thoughts in her mind subconsciously.. (The ship?.. No sea.. Hmm.. At least she's not going off blank.) Inside the ship, ??.. Odd. Sera?.. Well that's a change.. & ow Cielo. Hm? Oh. The Brutes.. & Bat.. Yeah.. Gotta find him it seems in this ship. Bat? .. Varin- !! .... Hmm... Seeing his background.. Pretty darn serious.. After that scene, looks like Gale & Cielo to proceed with Serph. (Flashbacks yep.) Cielo? .. People? edit? IDK Y.. Oh? I see. His Mantra... Could be helpful. Given his role. Serph? Hmm.. Gale.. I see. ??.. Oh Brutes. Deal that. A new foes? Chatterskull.. Phantom.. that's troubling.. Cielo name & his demon?.. Ah. I see. Meanings.. Cool tho fittingly. Well that's quick mastered for Cielo's Adamant & the is Mantra of his skill for his weaknesses . Nice. Makes sense knowing Serph is the leader.. (Varin? Him alive? Hmm Indeed..) 3F cleared for things & explosives to plant. Good. 4F.. Comma Terminal. Stop there to save. Till then.
@B_A-tr
@B_A-tr 2 месяца назад
I just realized this why do sera and argilla have different uniforms. The whole thing about uniforms is that theyre uniform. Now that ive noticed that, gale and cielo also dont have the same one, gale has a hood and longer pants
@Cyberspace318
@Cyberspace318 2 месяца назад
0:12 Wow, what a surprise, I'm going to have a heart attack and die from not surprise. 1:40 In other words, we'll be forced to use both Gale and Cielo. 4:53 Yeah, that makes sense. 6:31 ...How do you even respond to this? 7:36 But it could be worse. 9:26 ...Is that a yacht? Is the next dungeon inside a yacht? This is amazing! 9:42 Well, DDS came out in 2004 in Japan, and 2005 in North America, so I'd argue it's closer to FRLG than DP. 10:44 "Serph, I want you to draw me like one of your Maribel girls." 13:32 Lol, that's pretty funny! 14:02 Honestly, Argilla doesn't look too bad in Sera's outfit. 14:33 S*it, that was quick. 15:40 Here's some fun trivia: as you may have guess from the last name, Bob Papenbrook is indeed the father of Bryce Papenbrook. Voice acting runs in the family, it seems. Sadly, as for some not so fun trivia, Bob Papenbrook passed away on March 17, 2006 from chronic lung complications. May he rest in peace. 15:46 Oh boy, not only is he an asshole, but he's an asshole who likes to roleplay. 18:39 ...I would normally refute that statement since there's no way of knowing for certain, but considering that it's Cielo, you might actually be right about that. 18:46 Oh damn, looking at the portrait in the screenshot and the portrait in the game, it's pretty easy to tell that, because of your recording setup, the portrait in the game is stretched out. 24:56 It is interesting to think about an alternate universe where Gale doesn't exist, but at the same time, he's a cool character so I'm glad that he does! 25:39 Now that's what I call using your head! 27:55 I understood that reference. 41:28 I really like how Megido looks in this game! 42:53 When is Cielo not awesome?
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
1:40 Which is amazing. 41:28 Then you'll like Nocturne. And Mot. 42:53 NEVER.
@greenhillmario
@greenhillmario 2 месяца назад
I knew about gale being a late addition to the game but not about his role as serph’s mouthpiece also stemming from cutting dialogue from serph. On one hand that’s a disappointment, on the other Gale is one of the best characters in the saga so, meh. The whole cielo bad thing from early gamefaqs really does feel like it’s based off the old “big numby good, use argilla for support you need less skill slots and do good damage at the same time”. Kinda like the gba fire emblem guides rating Lyn and Ests high because of growths. The whole idea of that sort of strategising just didn’t seem to exist at the time and it really does only come with time
@Firemalleoandjelly
@Firemalleoandjelly 2 месяца назад
0:11 I'm hoping Bats goes the way of Loki in Thor Ragnarok.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Loki was actually okay there, I felt.
@Firemalleoandjelly
@Firemalleoandjelly 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy What meant was he will try to betray them again and they beat him up for trying.
@Not_Alanius
@Not_Alanius 2 месяца назад
I've always been confused by videos like these now that I'm playing the actual game. In my playthrough, neither Gale, nor Cielo started out with Protection mastered, and my Cielo started out with Yaksa and the mantra with Mamudo mastered, unlike the footage in this video. I'm not sure whether this is a blessing or a curse as of now, because while mantras like Fierce Spirit and Adamant are easy to get at this point, it's still a large amount that I'm missing out on, and I've seen how even the Innate Mantra Line Only run of this game by Megido had Death access on Cielo thanks to Yaksa, while he doesn't have it in this video. Tl;Dr: A challange run, this playthrough, and my own playthrough havve conflicting starting Mantra lines for Gale and Cielo, and I don't know how this happened.
@Vegeta241
@Vegeta241 2 месяца назад
14:18 - 14:23 I found the fluidity of that animation… oddly charming. What system was this for again?
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
PS2. I love PS2 RPG graphics.
@matts5747
@matts5747 2 месяца назад
4:16 Huh. Kinda reminds me of SMT V 8:52 Time to outplay our foes 9:43 Oh ok I have memories about making a joke about Pokémon Ships but listed off actual boats in the series. I talked about the S.S Libra and someone claimed it was a Call of Duty Map 14:32 True. I don't think most of them even know what Sera looks like beyond her black hair 15:27 Do bats have good smell sences? If other wise ew. 15:46 And he is not at your call! 17:19 Well he's hopefully keeping Bat in line. Also wait he has both arms?! 21:07 And Gale had Mudo... I feel like that's meant to say something about them. 25:13 And I named my Miraidon, Naga. Although that was more after the FE Character 28:49 Would that make Cielo the Emperor Arcana? 34:10 I have to wonder if that says something about people's strategies. I feel like that idea has people leaning towards offense than defense 39:25 Do not bore me with pathetic logic
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
9:43 A long time ago, one fandom actually tried to make that its ship naming scheme. (S.S [X]) It didn't catch on.
@TheJaredPunch
@TheJaredPunch 2 месяца назад
So how are we feeling about the Nintendo Direct? The Mario and Luigi game looks nice, but my main takeaways are the Fairy Tail Action RPG game and Dragon Quest 3’s H2D Remake. Alongside 1 and 2. Speaking of Dragon Quest, I’m still doing my watch through of DQ8, this is where I portray 8’s hero as a Stock Shonen protagonist. The Luminary IMO is similar to Alear, so I wonder how I will characterize Erdrick?
@Sean_Bird
@Sean_Bird 2 месяца назад
Time for Cielo to take us for a ride! 0:55 My guess? Beans. Don’t ask why. Interesting how a lot of the Ex-Solid soldiers seem to have accents. 11:45 Wait, the Hades Mantra’s only skill is Recarm? That doesn’t sound very Hades-like. Consider how Gale speaks, that probably tells us a bit of how Serph’s personality was like.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
I think of either MvC2 or Magic School Bus. 11:45 I guess it's more meant to refer to it as the realm of the dead. But yeah, it's likely Serph was meant to be VERY stoic and logical, and only awaken later on.
@blizzardforonline1954
@blizzardforonline1954 2 месяца назад
So… that Direct, am I right?
@gamerunit7280
@gamerunit7280 2 месяца назад
hi
@oberon_relic1161
@oberon_relic1161 2 месяца назад
If you could have a demon form what would it be, I like thor and odin
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