Digital FPV for Tiny Whoops is finally here! Mobula6 w/ HDZero!

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00:00:00 - Carnivorious goats!!!
00:01:31 - TINY WHOOPS!!!
00:03:05 - HDZero finally made a proper digital cinewhoop!
00:04:33 - Motors, props, FC
00:07:16 - HDZero nano video transmitter and camera
00:07:56 - How does it fly?
00:13:00 - Range test
00:15:47 - The real strength of HDZero

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@that_jason_black Год назад

"I'm Joshua Bardwell and you're gonna HERD something today."

@2strokeme64 Год назад

you misspelled NERD

@cityproofdad 10 месяцев назад

you mean passion??

@jpslayermayor9293 Год назад

This whoop gets a 4/10 in goat herding capabilities

@richardamiss7000 Год назад

Operator error to be fair. Loveyoumeanit JB

@wesleyooms 10 месяцев назад

"People criticize me for having a messy patio, but it's really just a race course" 😂😂😂. That's it. The best excuse. Now I have to get into drone racing. 😂😂😂

@linkonlansing Год назад

Thank you Mr. Bardwell, As your name suggests you are a wonderful storyteller, You also have taught me a whole lot in the process.

@MikiSibs Год назад

i live in a farm and we have our goats just running around the house like in this video. and just when im wondering about digital tinywhoops, i bump into this video. Thanks again Joshua

@jeanmiranda8651 Год назад

I don’t typically comment on videos, but the goat stuff was actually hilarious

@crddrones3457 Год назад

Thank you for all the great tips Joshua God bless you

@caffeinecreature Год назад

I love this HDZero board on my 2S 3.5" toothpick as well. I fly with Crosshair Xtreme antennas on my Scout HD, positioning myself at a corner of my flying area to cover the whole area with the beam, and the antennas have enough range and penetration to give me a perfectly clean image even a couple hundreds of yards away and behind some trees. In direct line of sight there are no breakup sparks even half a kilometer out (the furthest I can fly legally here). HDZero is not as good as DJI with an equal setup, but with some good directional antennas you can make it look and perform really nice.

@mc4life3 Год назад

Tell you what mr.Bardwell, if your so upset with the old tiny whoops I'd gladly take them off your hands 😅🤣

@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад

I really love this whoop. Combined with Hdzero and Elrs it’s pure perfection!

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

Except when you want to upgrade that ELRS SPI receiver and can't do it! I'll not be investing in any ELRS with SPI receivers, for sure. Seems like a dead end. Same idea with HDZero - Great if you want to fly circles around the picnic tables, but as soon as you try to fly around a solid object, FORGIT 'BOUT IT! 🥴 I fly around my big house with all sorts of thick trees, all the time, with no distortion or fuzz, snow, or vertical rainbow black out....ERRRR....color out! lol Not even being able to fly around your own house because it looses picture is super limiting and a total bummer. Range is ZiLcH! SPI on the ELRS, and terrible penetration on the HDZero, two big bummers that keep me away from both!!! This is a start, but not the answer. 🤷 😫

@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад

@@KOrnhOliO1 Yes, I can’t disagree with that. For my use it is perfect. Brilliant to have plenty of options now.

@toxicfpv304 Год назад

@@KOrnhOliO1 i took mine around my house today.... not even a bit of break up..... i was pretty impressed to be honest.... i wasnt expecting the preformance that i got from it.... it is slugish in the current config...... but i have a few sets of 25000kv motors that need a good home... lol

@phiveone Год назад

I put one these boards in my Tinyhawk FS II. Amaaaaazing!

@z506fpv5 Год назад

Thanks for the review!

@blackriverrampscom Год назад

Goddamn the “intro” aka. Half the video was so entertaining 😂 you’re the best Joshua.

@BB-jq6ek Год назад

You rarely add the links to videos mentioned... Thank you this is one of my favorite channels

@igortmkrtchn5033 Год назад

Hi, Joshua, good video, as always, thanks! Pls, advise, if HDZero goggles match this drone. What else shall I buy with it? Some patch or antenna? (I already have Commando8 and DJI Goggles).

@RyanQuellet Год назад

Good thoughts. I prefer this mobula6 with 25000kV and triblades. Reduced my flight time down to 2:30, but it is way more peppy

@avgvstvs96 Год назад

u need better batteries! if you're already using nitro nectars or tattus then you might have a bad pigtail, 2:30 is terrible, i get 3:30-3:45 on the green mobula on triblades with good batteries and a solid pin ph2.0, and that was a heavyy quad, needed tri blades.

@beeradfpv Год назад

i'm hoping they make one of these with this setup.

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

Put 48khz and Emuflight on it and get far better flight times with no disadvantages! :)

@toxicfpv304 Год назад

@@avgvstvs96 that isnt horrible for the weight of this whoop.... 25000kv motors are hard on batteries.... i get around 3 mins from factory settings on this whoop now.... i would give up 30 seconds for it to feel more like my mob6 race

@toxicfpv304 Год назад

ive been thinking hard about doing this myself....

@HalfChrome Год назад

I love it. I’ve gone with tri blades and JESC and it’s even better.

@tristanvaillancourt5889 Месяц назад

The goat thing was quite unique and fun. Nice work dude. EDIT: Your flying is excellent.

@Kopterheld Год назад

Awesome review. I hope Walksnail will make a 1S digital lite board like the HDZero

@RedDuckStudio Год назад

This video was great. especially the goats (which, as I'm sure you know, will eat pretty much anything -- including your quad). I have a Mobula6 standard and would like to get into the HD stuff, but I'm wondering what goggles to use with that. Especially since I'm thinking of getting an Avata as my next quad.

@MrAlucardDante Год назад

If you are willing to go to 75mm, Dax was able to put a naked vista on the mobula 7 and it still flies amazingly well.

@MrChefshawn Год назад

HI, I made a mistake earlier on beatflight and updated my fc board. I didnt realize that I do not have my connector for my shark byte to the vtx on the whoop now it will not bind any ideas??

@toxicfpv304 Год назад

I trimmed just a little of the heat shrink off in order to get my nbd lipo to fit in. Seems all the models have this short lead. But with a little trim it fits perfectly. Until I need to swap power lead

@bernzfpv5962 Год назад

Great Mr JB .. i have only Question .. i want to know what kind of Fpv Googles use for HD video like that or like some other fpv drone with HD video ? Can i use ordinary fpv googles like eachine ev800d or vr009 googles for that kind of HD video?

@screamatthewind Год назад

The Mobula's are my favorite micros right now. The M6HDZL is surprisingly good. Was only getting 1 min of flight time on GNB 380's. Went to EMAX 450's and am getting much longer flight times even with the extra weight. Fly outdoors mostly and don't do a lot of stunts which is probably why I don't notice the extra weight too much. Plenty of pep for the way I fly.

@the_robo_hobo Год назад

How do you mount those to the frame? I’m trying to do it on my build but can’t seem to find a way that’s secure.

@MrLaserpowered Год назад

Wow, great review. 👍

@oliviertf Год назад

Nice video - and very interesting to see this review! Please continue looking at 1 and 2S quads with digital video! Digital VTX for 1 and 2S quads is what I am looking for and I guess many others. Love my Mobula6, UZ80 (modified ESC software, propellers and camera, solid 7 minutes flightime) and Crux3 for low-noise flying in the garden and parks: but they are analog and from my digital VTX in my 4" and 5" I got spoiled. The 2" prop´s on the 4S GEPRC Rocket Lite are just too noisy for flights in the garden or parks and all other small quads with 4S are basically same: too noisy.

@MCsCreations Год назад

Awesome flying and review, Joshua! 😃 Pretty amazing little quad! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊 BTW, devils are a great animal... But they do bite you! 😂

@josephmendoza2935 6 месяцев назад

What goggles are you using? I’m starting from scratch. So I have TOO many possibilities. So many options out there it’s kinda daunting on what to actually purchase

@jackinabackpack7599 Год назад

I've taken a 1y break from FPV and all the related content. It's good to see Joshua is even weirder than when I left

@robertpalvolgyi3963 Год назад

Thx, great video again! 😀

@fpvmiami Год назад

I wonder if adding a dipole antenna would be worth the weight / improve your range?

@lukeskywalker6148 11 месяцев назад

I’m really new I have mobula 6 could you link me to everything I need like what controller and bits and bobs

@metavet9242 Год назад

I’ve got further than 52 secs into this vid yet but Bardwell plus little goat has made me happy..

@charleselliott3109 Год назад

Literally... chasing the goat!!!!

@janw.5726 Год назад

That was the most sentual" I'm Joshua Bardwell, and you're gonna learn something today" ever :)

@daryoushborja5115 Год назад

Thanks Joshua, I fly exclusively micros.

@-FARKI Год назад

What is the range trough concrete? I live in a concrete house so this is quite important to me.

@toxicfpv304 Год назад

I just got my hdzero 65mm. Can't wait for a few hours of free time to set up a little track and rip this thing.

@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад

Best thing I did with mine was to put it in a 75mm frame with 450mah battery. More than doubled flight times

@CalleyyyC Год назад

I got one of these and have been really enjoying it. I had forgotten how much fun 1s 65mm was and have been having a blast. HDZero for the win on this!

@TheTunerGuy Год назад

What if you were able to cut a DJI cadaxx vista and re wire it and dodder it. Maybe a try and order a custom one?

@AlexLebed Год назад

amazing video, Joshua. I have a question: on 5:30 you say it's standard all in one flight controller with 5A. Is this *5A per motor* or for the whole board? If for motor, how can it work on 5*4=20A if ph2 connector specs says it can't get more than 5A? thanks

@JoshuaBardwell Год назад

5A per motor. It's a max rating the motors don't pull that continuously. And PH sags voltage a lot when excess amps are pulled, which is why it's not a great connector.

@dondupuis5524 Год назад

What radio and googles are you using?

@runpuppyfpv5744 Год назад

it looks way better than analoge a far cry from the tiny hawk I started with I recently view some of my old analogue videos and am so glad I'm an hd pilot now

@magicsmoke9842 Год назад

It appears this quad has a linear VTX antenna? You should have used a linear omni and a linear patch on the VRX? I have the older analog Mob6 ELRS and video is great with the linear patch I have :)

@buckrogers2752 Год назад

where do you keep the soda?

@moblades1 Год назад

You have such cute B-roll :D

@mauricioinocencio Год назад

Hey Joshua, thanks for your videos.. I almost see them all. Hahahhaa... I want to buy a new Tiny Whoop that I can flight FPV with my DJI Googles v2 and tba tango 2 .. Which one do you recommend me?

@JoshuaBardwell Год назад

There aren't any true tiny whoops with DJI because the vTX weighs too much. The closest is the iFlight alpha a85. Or maybe they make an a75 version.

@johndextersantos9541 Год назад

Bad things can happen when Goats, Reflections and Cars come together 🤣. .

@CopperStateAerialPhotography Год назад

Great video Joshua! Quick question, Pretty new to FPV. I have the Tinyhawk 2. Can I put the HDzero set up in it and maybe the Tinyhawk 2 freestyle?

@KaizerTest Год назад

I wouldn't bother putting HDzero on the TH2 or Freestyle. Not saying it can't be done but because the Flight controller shape is proprietary to that quad it will be hard to stack the HDzero on top. Also the video transmitter is hard soldered and bolted to the Flight controller. It can be taken off and replaced but the HDzero stacking issue may be a challenge. You could drill holes and fit it to the underside of the top plate but not worth the trouble in my opinion.

@CopperStateAerialPhotography Год назад

@@KaizerTest Thank you for your input. As I said I'm a noob. Had no idea how much work it would be to swap. I thought maybe it would be just unsoldering a few wires and re-soldering the new system in I.E. plug n play system. Thanks😁👍🏽

@ags9494 Год назад

Fcking love so much the JB actings🤣🤣😭😭😭🙌🏻

@anthonyzanze5946 Год назад

Hey buddy love the vids even though I don't own a one. Hey can you do a vid on shutting down vtx power so if my drone gets stuck up a tree I don't burn anything out

@MrAlucardDante Год назад

In the vtx tab in betaflight configurator, you can set low power disarm to ON and it will go back to 25mw once you disarm. Be aware that if you crash far away, you will lose video until you get very close. You can also set the vtx to pit mode with an aux channel if you want

@csmarkham Год назад

Mr. Bardwell, The Academy has your nomination ready.

@GeorgeCooper_LoneWolf Год назад

Never say never JB. I still remember that video where you said there's no way we will ever have HD... This thing looks awesome great and very funny review

@JoshuaBardwell Год назад

I didn't say that though.

@toxicfpv304 Год назад

@@JoshuaBardwell i think it was more along the lines of it would be almost impossible.... lol

@aviphysics Год назад

Maybe they used bi-blades to keep the on paper weight low.

@MosOneFPV Год назад

Buying one on RDQ. And then RU-vid recommends my dudes video from 2 weeks ago sick !!

@darumaprb8500 Год назад

hy Joshua that tiny whoop , record in hd and run analog , right

@PhillyDroneLife Год назад

YaHOOOOOOOOOOO. Broad street hear we come! Mikey

@gadgetmerc Год назад

I'll order two (i like having a backup) when an equivalent comes out with a non-spi based ELRS rx. Ideally that comes out when the new HDZero goggles come out.

@junkheadrc7397 Год назад

Hey the hd zero module and hd zero digital cameras, will all this be compatible with the Goggles when they come out?

@gadgetmerc Год назад

@@junkheadrc7397 yup, they'll all be compatible

@coba-cobatv Год назад

Very Impresived

@LuxMorgano 11 месяцев назад

Does the Hdzero Whoop lite system have on bord DVR?

@JoshuaBardwell 11 месяцев назад

No it does not.

@fishballfpv9063 Год назад

JB herding his goats with a whoop... oh yeah!

@5olace Год назад

Analog video range on my whoop definitely has better range than the example shown here for hdzero. Does it look better than HDzero? No, but my meteor 65 definitely has less breakup at further range. I feel i can fly out further with it

@TheohoSignal Год назад

That was also my experience. The HDZero video range in this video seems rather poor and I'm almost certain the analog version of this quad outperforms it in terms of range.

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

EXACTLY!

@ElChingonFPV 9 месяцев назад

New drone job: Herding. Like it Bardwell.

@rico-sg Год назад

Great video! What remote and goggles did you use with this quad? Newby really looking into just getting started with tiny Whoops. I live in Minnesota so a lot of winter months. I appreciate all the knowledge that you share!

@MukiFPV Год назад

Most common remote is radio matter t xxx 16s and for goggles if you're new you could wait since hd zero is expecting to release their own goggles in October. Right now I'm using fatshark hdo with the hdz video transmitter

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

@@MukiFPV Plus, DJI V3 in Sept. Bad time to buy right now! :(

@csg2000 Год назад

If whoops are going to be your main focus I would get a radio with expressLRS. Seems like almost all of the whoop flight controllers are pivoting to expressLRS, which is great because frsky spi receivers blow. A radio with a 4in1 and an expressLRS module is the slightly spendy but 100% coverage option.

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

@@csg2000 I use Crossfire, and don't see the benefit of ELRS, for weight savings. I just weighed the smallest Crossfire receiver with the little wire "T" antenna (no Immortal T plastic holder) and some wire to solder it up with very short leads. It weighs a total of 1.2 grams! Not enough weight savings to make it worthwhile switching from Crossfire.

@csg2000 Год назад

@@KOrnhOliO1 yeah I'm also a crossfire loyalist as well, but if I was starting fresh and looking at mostly whoops it's hard to beat the ELRS options right now.

@Pozzix65 Год назад

goats r fantastic 😍

@DroneViewPoland Год назад

Looks nice 👍

@mdk42o74 Год назад

Dang i got to say if fatsnail comes out with a Modular Bay that you could use the avitar system on other style goggals then hands down the new hdzero goggals are looking like a good solid option. The hdzero goggals would be the first true all in one headset hmmmm

@gaetanovalenti4472 Год назад

I Heard that Walksnail Digital system Is about to make a 1s version too. So I am Just waiting for this to happen and than I Will probably go for It. Eventhough I finally started flying freestyle with 3inch quad I still love tinywhoops. It would be grat having the same quality for both worlds

@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 Год назад

They need both a 1s vtx 4g or under and they need a camera 1.7g or lighter to make it work.

@keatonchahal5111 Год назад

What googles was he using to fly it?

@janefaulkner3749 Год назад

we'll been hearing the sound of music as an intro soon especially the Goat herder track.

@ccurrivan Год назад

I just built a whoop with the same 0802s, and it gets 50% longer flight times on the biblades than the Mob6 ELRS with 0702 26000kv. I was expecting it to be terrible.

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

Yeah, I've done 0702's and they seemed very under powered. Wasn't impressed. Now, maybe for ultra light whoops hovering in the 15-ish grams region, they might be fine, but otherwise, 0802's are the way to go.

@avgvstvs96 Год назад

yeah the green mobula 6 is genuinely bad. far too heavy and underpowered, those motors were supposed to be for the mobeetle, 5g lighter than the mob6

@jupiterboltt7540 Год назад

What Kv 0802?

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

@@jupiterboltt7540 I think 19K KV is the usual favorite.

@ccurrivan Год назад

@@jupiterboltt7540 19000

@Rang62455 Год назад

Will the tiny whoop be confined to indoors and frias when remote ID is finalized? Or will there be an exception to the rule?

@JoshuaBardwell Год назад

SUAS under 250g don't need RemoteID except when flown for commercial purposes.

@Rang62455 Год назад

@@JoshuaBardwell I'm glad you clarified this because I haven't seen on the FAA web site where it states this. I guess if you are flying for a gov agency (fire dept) you could get a waiver.

@hozrhayt Год назад

Only thing I dislike is the canopy.

@yirmiyahu1397 Год назад

I love you J.B.

@JonFloFPV Год назад

Goat Chasing is the new review standard for all things FPV. I have spoken.

@Pile_of_carbon Год назад

Now we're getting there! This is what I've been waiting for.

@proxemiafpv5746 Год назад

If I buy the frsky based model will my tx16 with the 4 in 1 protocol operate it? I know frsky really messed up going from accst to access and lost a lot of radio compatibility.

@AdamKouse Год назад

Yeah, you'll be fine. It will run in D8 mode which the radio supports. As Bardwell eluded to in this video though, you are really missing out by doing so. You can pick up a HM ES24TX Pro as the cheapest ELRS JR module on GetFPV for example for ~$38 and be so much better off.

@proxemiafpv5746 Год назад

@@AdamKouse thanks for response. Yea I know but I’m running tbs module in place. I guess I should had forgone 4 in 1 and did elrs and ran my tbs module. I was trying to accommodate my old frsky builds, but I should sell them off anyway. Maybe next time I’ll get the right radio universal with all my builds

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

@@AdamKouse But, as JB said in this video, it's the HDZero VTX that was the limitation, not the receiver.

@AdamKouse Год назад

@@KOrnhOliO1 Correct, but he was talking about the ELRS link, not the FrSky version.

@AdamKouse Год назад

@@proxemiafpv5746 Until recently I was in your exact situation. Jumper T16 w/4in1 and CrossFire in the bay. Eventually I just saw the writing on the wall and got an ELRS Zorro and a 4in1 for the bay. With the low cost of the HM EP81 and 82, I just started migrating everything over. Eventually got an EP82 for my goggles, too. It sucks taking everything apart to swap receivers but I'm glad I did and haven't looked back.

@pandemiofpv Год назад

muy buenaa tio joshua !

@kensmith6236 Год назад

Good review, I tried to buy but couldn’t find out which battery I needed fo the radio & drone. So I have lost all interest in trying drones out.

@JoshuaBardwell Год назад

I mean if you want answers to what product to buy you can just email me jb@joshuabardwell.com. Or you can check out my web site which is specifically intended to help people in your position: www.fpvknowitall.com/fpv-shopping-list-tiny-whoop/ But frankly, this is going to be the least of your difficulties if you do get into drones and FPV, so if you are giving up this early, maybe best you don't get started.

@kensmith6236 Год назад

@@JoshuaBardwell I guess I am spoiled with great customer service such as Motion RC & other fixed wing aircraft vendors. I was very surprised that none of the people you recommended hadn’t a customer service for questions. I did get my need info, very basic as to what were the connectors on the drone, through RCGroups. I did follow you recommendations as to the radio, so you got a little commission. Compared to some of my larger models these aren’t complicated at all. Thanks for taking the time to replay, I will watch more of your videos. They are very good.

@stoneshiva9592 Год назад

Liftoff needs to add goats following lol

@JohnKoornTesla101 Год назад

As a noob getting into FPV and getting all my gear together I'm looking at DJI HD goggles, so I'd have to pass on this. Would be real nice if it was compatible, or DJI brought out a 1S HD vTX that would fit on a 65mm whoop. That would make a great 1st training drone, before upsizing to a 5" fully fledged freestyle drone

@RandoManFPV 7 месяцев назад

I never flew before and jumped right into a 5inch it really is no problem just prsctice on sims first

@MrDehicka Год назад

HDZero 1S whoop VTX 200mW - 4.5g Naked Avatar HD VTX 1200mW - 7g With upcoming 1S Avatar VTX, I can not justify buying HDZero system.

@JPspinFPV Год назад

Alright, that was a cute into. Totes mah'goats!

@nullfield1126 Год назад

I like how they're afraid of the drone like it's some kind of ginormous wasp.

@ChristKrew-Rev1.8 Год назад

Love goats... and yes they eat just about anything. Have a friend who uses animal crackers as treats for them.

@DronePsyche Год назад

I'll stick with my moby6 with FRSKY receiver for now.

@ElectricaDroneCo Год назад

Is that a MOON GOAT!!?? Can we get team of black sheep for the next episode??

@MadManFPV Год назад

Where’s the links to the batteries that are the same as the new bee drone nectars? Did I over look it?

@JoshuaBardwell Год назад

Oh crap. I'm sorry yeah I spaced it. I'll get it added but not until tonight.

@JoshuaBardwell Год назад

Ok they're added.

@MadManFPV Год назад

Thank you so much!!

@FPVian Год назад

But can it turtle mode??? Still waiting for a 1s 75mm version...

@toxicfpv304 Год назад

yes it can.... had to multiple times today flying around the house

@caseyfpv Год назад

🔥🔥🔥

@karbonroryfpv6897 Год назад

GOAT !

@Guenounovitch Год назад

Living the goaot life

@ahlplex Год назад

So is there a bundle with the HD googles, drone, and transmitter?

@numberjuanfpv Год назад

If you put together in a bundle with what he is flying with it will be something like 200 tiny whoop+250vrx+200radio+500goggles+50 tx + batteries.

@toxicfpv304 Год назад

@@numberjuanfpv im into my set up for 600 including ( used but works great) tango 2 with elrs module.... shark byte vtx.... fatshark hdos ( that included rapidfire).... nbd nitro nectars and tinywhoop lipos and tiny whoop hdzero ( new).... ther is always a deal to be had with used gear....

@numberjuanfpv Год назад

@@toxicfpv304 I have not bought used but yes, getting used should save good amount. I have all the equipment, but just yesterday my wife reminded me how much do I spend in drone stuff😅

@numberjuanfpv Год назад

@@toxicfpv304 I have tango 2 elrs. Tx16s. Sky04x with sharkbyte. This tiny whoop is already sold out in getfpv. I ordered yesterday the 1s vtx through affiliate link. I'll make a 1s hd meteor75.

@toxicfpv304 Год назад

@@numberjuanfpv check over at fpv exchange. Zenakis had a bunch of them new in box he ordered from hdzero.