I really want to!! I've been following your videos and love the idea of raw video on a Super 8-sized sensor. I don't have a 3D printer myself, but it's definitely on the list of things I want to do!
It’s excellent. I’ve got a modded 10 and the MFT mount makes it even easier to mount larger lenses. Of course there are C mount adapters for practically everything, but MFT makes life a lot easier - and cheaper. Backbone does such a nice job with the mod that I don’t know what GoPro themselves could do better… except dumb it down somehow since consumer products are all they know.
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@@retrothing just like red and smallrig they could work together and officially offer something with the 8mm look right now you have to void warranty, try around buy overlays and plugins if the 8mm look would be inside the gopro app it would make it simply way more convenient imo. also with mass production the price could go down i think
The actual film footage looked so beautiful, but that gopro held up surprisingly well! Another incredible video! Super educational and genuinely entertaining. I think non camera people would enjoy this. Also that ending was amazing. My years as an AV Technician really explain why we get along so well! -Jon
I love to hear you taking about this! I share your interest in c mounts, going so far as to feel they’re a vastly under valued resource. I thought I was one of the only ones left! I have lots of them collected over the years, and am always interested in new ways to use them. Modded GoPro is one of my favorites. I missed the boat on the Digital Bolex too, and I’m glad to see you exploring the other choices that are out there. Looking forward to the next one!
Thanks so much!! I'm glad to see another c-mount enthusiast out there! I have another video up on the EOS M hacked with Magic Lantern, which allows me to use c-mount lenses with an adapter. And I'm working on a video now about the Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera!
Yo Alex, this thing is so so cool man. I really like the idea of it and using c-mount lenses. I also think the easy grade in resolve 19 would really make getting that vintage look a lot easier too. The end of the video killed me 🤣🤣
@@VietinghoffAlex honestly, it’s hard to pick just one! I have a huge TV lens from ebay that I can do crash zooms with, but with the crop factor, it’s also good for birding. I have this one fast D-mount lens (also from ebay) that’s got really nice swirly bokeh. Otherwise, I bought a bunch of cheap CCTV zoom lenses from aliexpress that cover most focal lengths (mainly one wide zoom and one telephoto zoom). The best part is I can stuff most of my collection into a single backpack and still be light on my feet!
@@VietinghoffAlex Too many to name!! I’ve got a couple CCTV lenses from aliexpress, a few of which are zooms, to cover most focal lengths I need. On ebay, I got a huge TV zoom lens that’s parfocal and can do crash zooms. Another ebay find was a D-mount lens with good swirly bokeh.
The hands down best camera for simulating 8mm and 16mm gotta be the Blackmagic Pocket Camera original one. Its tiny, has really organic digital look, and you get 14bit 1080p RAW. Unless you just want to shoot 12bit ProRes. Someone 3D printed like a body for it with a grip and man its so good looking.
Big time! I actually owned one for awhile but sold it, and how have two Blackmagic Micro Cinema Cameras. I always shoot in 1080 CDNG RAW with them with vintage Super16 lenses :)
Interesting video. One alternative for using regular and super 8 lenses is to get a Pentax Q, the later Q7 and QSR1 have slightly larger sensors, and an adapter. I have a d-mount adapter which allows me to use regular 8 d-mount lenses, including a 6.5mm and 13mm lenses. I imagine there is a c-mount adapter as well. It is my understanding that c-mount lenses were frequently used with 16mm cameras.
@@VietinghoffAlex Excellent I think. I bought it primarily to use some intriguing 8mm d-mount vintage lenses on it. The set up is tiny and amusing. I'm disappointed though in the images I'm getting from my 8mm lenses -- partly because most have haze problems but also due to flare and softness. I'd bet that c-mount lenses would generally give me a nicer image, but I haven't tried that yet. The kit lenses for the Q are excellent however. I'd recommend giving the Pentax Q a try. Mattias Burling has a nice video about these cameras: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FEF6Ip3gURw.html
I love this and would love to see more footage or even a short film with it. As much as I enjoy the nostalgia, the biggest issue from the previous generation to modern is transferring to PC to edit. For the most authentic experience, using the older equipment IS ideal. However I would certainly like to share my work the smoothest possible. I appreciate the information and effort to convey the nostalgia even through your clothing. I can't want to see more. Subscribed.
Thanks!! And true, I have a few EOS M cameras with Magic Lantern that could work. I'm tempted to get one of them converted to full spectrum for IR raw video!
@@VietinghoffAlex not really aside of some clips for my vocational training. Right now I’m kind of stuck with getting a clean output (bc no money lol) to an external recorder while on the go, meaning no tripod nor wall plugs. As soon as I get somewhere I’ll be happy to share.
I have an GP11 modded and it's worth the money.The variety of old lens that can be used is endless. I have an selection of CCTV lens from 6 to 25mm, zoom 4 to 12mm, 6 to 60mm. I have two Sigma zoom K mount with an adapter, they work great. And when i just want a small camera to put in my pocket i use an 6 or 25mm M12 lens, these are tiny. Using an c mount spacer i now have macro. It's best to use an monitor to set the focus as the GP screen is so small. I have 9 lens so far with an outlay of less than $100. MFT will be my next move as an adapter came with the mod. Hope this helps some one.
@@VietinghoffAlex Regarding the monitor i have replied to you twice and YT has taken it down, maybe because of brand names. Do you has an email address i can send the info to.
I actually had a BMPCC and sold it! But you can see some test footage I shot with it and a Mir 12mm f/2 for a super tiny vintage camera and lens combo here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kYacamGVpIM.htmlsi=9LIOIeWhoWhBe7Hb&t=452
Thank you!! There are a few projects online of people putting Raspberry Pi or Arduino cameras into a Super 8 camera, the hardest part is lining up the sensor with the film gate at the exact distance that the Super 8 film would be.
Clearly the problem with Super 8 is that you record so little material, that is, there are no tapes that record a minimum of 1 hour, a pity... and it is expensive to send to be digitized.
Or just buy a split camera for fpv and put it inside a broken super 8 camera to use the lens assembly . or use the cinepi project with the global shutter sensor and do the same. Also old CCD cameras that have video work too. panasonic fz48/47 being my favorite for that, depends if you're ok with 25fps europe version , US will probably be 30. But you can find the service manual with instructions on how to change location I thing, I'm from Europe so It was 25fps already . Some canon and JVC cameras have 24fps video in CCD but for 720p, a1200 for canon and I forgot what jvc. Went down a big rabbit hole with this a few years ago and bought these cameras for around £10-20.
I really want to make or test a CinePi! That's high up on my list of camera projects this year. Also been watching some videos of people installing Rpi cameras and similar inside old Super 8 cameras. I think I'll try CinePi first, then that! Thanks :)
@@VietinghoffAlex probably best to start with cinepi, because it’s about the same price as the rest really and you get raw. Plus you can do custom hardware controls with cinemate .
@@VietinghoffAlex I don’t know, I got a pi4 off eBay for my stuff . And to be fair why spend the money on anything else , especially since it’s cheaper. What would be cool would be some new sensors, maybe something bigger. Like the arducam global shutter one. There’s another cool pi camera project for webcams , another RU-vid channel forgot the name Jeff something has a good script on that one. And looking through the readme files on their git they might have bigger sensor support. They use a pi zero , that’s way smaller. Another thing I’d love to have would be log gamma , and I’ll have to read the manual on that one , because there’s got to be a way to modify picture profiles. Although I’m not sure now but the pi5 might have more data lanes to the sensor so maybe we can get better resolution when it gets up and running on that platform. Honestly the sensor to cpu part of it is new electronics to me . They have their own protocols and configurations that require a lot of research. I got a bit into that with ccd but nothing bar a few Wikipedia entries with modern sensors. Spoiler alert there are good reasons video took off on cameras only after cmos sensors 😂😂😂😂, and the ones that did it on ccds, were rarely pure ccds.
very new to all of this, but just to understand what you've done: the default lens for a GoPro mount is (blank) and you had back-bone mod the camera so it can attach to c-mount lenses? what type of lens mount is default to the GoPro?
Yes, Back-Bone can sell DIY mod kits, or you can buy pre-modded GoPros from them! The default built-in GoPro lens is a fisheye lens with a very distinct look.
@@VietinghoffAlex Flashforge Adventure 2 and 3 are pretty forgiving newbie friendly 3D printers, not sure you have them where you live but enclosed temperature control is very handy when you start out since this is where most people fail at first.
@@VietinghoffAlex Actually you may want to stick with Flashforge Adventure 4 since the 3 apparently still have quality control issues, my copy has been fine but seems like a lot of people have issues with theirs, just remembered a thread on Reddit about this and thought I tell you in case you end up with one thats less than stellar.
Why did you put a film emulation on the digital footage? If your goal was to compare a vintage lens on an 8mm camera vs. the GoPro, slapping a film filter over the GoPro footage makes the comparison moot. We can't see the differences. Why don't you just denoise the 8mm footage while you're at it?
The purpose was to specifically see how they compare as a Super 8-type camera. I also have a bunch of footage in there from the GoPro without the emulation. And you can find any GoPro footage online that will give you a sense of the GoPro sensor colours and motion cadence. The only difference with mine is that it has an interchangeable lens :)