Dirt 4: PS4/PS4 Pro/Xbox One/PC - Graphics Comparison + Frame-Rate Test 

Thats what everyones here for tho lol

Who cares how a racing game performs? We're here for those comments!

This entire comments sections is like a padded out room full of people trying to headbutt things/each other.

Dan, these are words to live by on every Digital Foundry comment section.

Can't we all just get along?

And yet on this video (screw youtube compression), the xb1 and 4Pro look identical for almost all intents and purposes. Even between it and the stock ps4 the only difference is a slightly lower resolution. Codemasters should take a leaf out of Turn 10's book and what they did with Forza Horizon 3. 1080/60 all the time with visuals that look better all the time too.

Forza Horizon 3 is an open world racing game - the game engine requirements are completely different. The game has to be able to deal with cars and their physics coming in head-on and from multiple directions - what has to be rendered and supported is just completely different. Simply put, you cannot compare such a racing game, to a track racer. Forza Motorsport 6 is a better comparison, so to Driveclub.

+swifterik - Crap, I meant Motorsport 6. Been playing Horizon too much over the past week and its got into my head lol.

It's ok, no worries. That said Forza Motorsport 6 is 1080p, 60fps. If you google the details you'll see. I own a PS4 Pro, an Xbox One, PC and loads of other stuff. There are great racers on all platforms imo. I think Forza Horizon and Motorsport are great on Xbox, I thought Driveclub was better than people originally gave it credit for and love the Bikes add on. I've got Dirt 4 on the PS4 Pro. I must admit I had hoped for a high res mode - at least 1440p, but maybe Codemasters will pull their finger out and support something that way via an update. The best way to play as of now looks like the PC - horses for courses and all that - good game though.

Where do you hear them say "unplayable" ?

It's called sarcasm, just making fun of DF's sometimes exaggerated nitpicking of 1-5 dropped frames.

AlexanTheMan Digital Foundry’s entire channel is built around analyzing gaming tech and performance. If your feelings get hurt because they point out frame drops maybe you shouldn’t watch their videos.

When did I say I was offended by this? I was only clearing up the misunderstanding of the first guy who replied.

AlexanTheMan you said they exaggerated and nitpicked dropped frames. That’s what this channel is about. It’s not a channel for randos who don’t care about this stuff.

Do they still in 2023 lol

it is, but I'll do just fine with 30

GameZard I like that cinematic feel

DeadPhoenix86 24 fps Is buttery smooth

Godly TLP Im guessing you’re brain dead

Godly TLP bad troll is bad

Hank Hill propane

Yeah, thougth that too, maybe they want you to support their patreon with this move ;(

looks more like encoding artefacts to me

Ersan .Ersoy Yeah definitely noticed this recently too, i wonder what could be behind that? :) not that I'm cynical or anything...

RU-vid's fault. It's encoding hates lots of movement like you have in a racing game.

Alex Disibio It definitely seems worse across the board recently though..pretty sure I've noticed that, but yeah fast movement doesn't help. This looks more like streamed PS4 footage than decent capture though I swear its got worse. DF? Can you confirm or deny this? :)

***** Bei meinem Bruder auf dem Fernseher sehe ich es auch die ganze Zeit und es zerstört meine Augen.

***** Es ist ein 40 Zoll 1080p Fernseher an einer ps4 slim und Wii u.

What? Do you know computers work with televisions? Controllers & wheels connect without a problem. Why do you think PC is the main platform for Simulator racing like iRacing? Because it's better.

Zuhair S​ I'm playing on a TV with a controller on PC literally right now. What a joke.

I think Zuhair took a stupid pill today

What AA it's better ?

Gamer Cat MSAA is one of the oldest form of AA, and it is very clean, but it eats performance and VRAM similar to a higher resolution. Any of the more advanced post process AA can look just as good for a fraction of the performance cost, SMAA or TAA for example. But I would say it's better to have no AA at all on the pro, if it meant they could go for a higher resolution. Jagged edges are much less noticeable on higher resolutions as well.

Chiriac Puiu they can get much higher than 1200p. MSAA upscales geometry and downsamples unlike SSAA which oversamples the whole image and then downsamples. If they had 4x SSAA they could get 4K no problem, 4x MSAA is not as demanding, but still about half or something like that, so they would easily be able to get 1440p or maybe higher. Have the option to use MSAA for 1080p owners, but it's stupid priority not to have a higher resolution when it is clearly possible.

Chiriac Puiu okay so des being lazy is just because of their engine as always. They have a well optimized engine hitting 60, they should be better bale to use the extra power. If we get some test on PC showing how well resolutions scale then we can judge.

lol I still use it in Oblivion and Skyrim plus fallout but yeah it is heavy but if you got the hardware it works

rulewski33 Pro is dogshit.

rulewski33 Pro support should improve once the Scorpio comes out.

Scorpio True 4k - Pro is not dogshit, it's the developers that are too lazy to properly optimize the game for it are. But as another fellow commentator said, it should massively improve as Scorpio is coming out.

N. Guy I keep telling ppl this. Although im picking up scorpio day 1. I think development will get better for pro when scorpio comes out

Ayaan Buragohain 😏

Would of?

Magnus Lööv The PS4 pro is actually not even close to a 1060 in gaming performance. The 1060 is almost equal to an RX 480 and even the RX 470 performs better in games than the PS4 Pros GPU.

@Simon Well, it may be hard to get a real benchmark number. But one rough estimate of the power of the cards is the number of Teraflops they can do and the PS4 Pro is at 4.1 Teraflops and the 1060 is at 4.0 Teraflops. A 1080 is at 9 Teraflops (More than double the 1060 performance). But my main point was about the Ps4 Pro not being near to perform good at real 4k since it is, at best, around the same performance as the 1060 that is less than half as powerful as the 1080 which in turn itself isn't able to run 4k@60 FPS! The 1060 runs about the same benchmark numbers as the older 980 and, if I remember correctly, I think the PS4 actually was said to be about the performance level of a 980 when it was released. And I think it was talked about that it wouldn't be able to run 4K good since the 980 couldn't either! The RX-480 is more powerful than the 1060. It actually uses the same Polaris GPU as the Ps4 Pro but it is clocked a bit higher. Edit : Found this link : wccftech.com/ps4-pro-performance-equivalent-900pc/ So they estimate it is about as powerful as a 970, which is a bit less than the 1060, but not by much! In older days (Ps3, Xbox 360) it used to be that they performed better than what the "numbers" predicted, but nowadays it seems like the PC has the upper hand in every way! Still running a console that has something in the ballpark of a 970 isn't that shabby, considering that in 2013 they were still running with PS3/Xbox 360 when 600 or 700-series Geforce cards were out!

***** It's still much less powerful than a 970.

Wipeout Omega Collection runs in 4K @ 60 fps, so yeah there could be done more with the Pro. When the Scorpio is out, devs are taking more advantage of the Pro.

+loannis Stf - BF1 uses checkerboard rendering and it's actually 1800p (or 1800cb) on Pro. But since dynamic resolution is in play In that game, it mostly sticks to *1656p*, actually. If codemasters had also used cb rendering, they could have gotten more out of PS4 Pro is all i'm saying.. But alas, not everyone has the time and budget to tick all the boxes, I presume.

Yeah, the EGO engine is really starting to show its age. It seems they've had to scale back visual quality to support their randomly generated stages, so Dirt Rally ends up looking better if you compare similar stages/weather conditions. I highly respect them for targeting 60fps though.

peaheaduk loll 4k 60 Jaja like need for speed and asssisns Creed both are 4k 30 on Scorpio lolll

Huh we don't even know how they will run yet . :)

I don't think it will. The cpu would be a problem

WH250398​​ the cpu isn't the issue in this game, it already running at 60fps, the gpu you is the issue, the gpu is powerful in the Scorpio, but not powerful enough to run this game at 4k 60fps, a gtx 1080ti gets about 70fps at 4k, and that has like twice the power of the gpu in the Scorpio, the best it could do is 1440p 60fps

Joshua Minke 1080ti I get over 80 fps on ultra 4k

Minmataro718 finally someone getting the bigger picture.

and same with the 1x1. No real new CPU going into new consoles until about 2021.

Minmataro718 The Xbox One X has the same garbage cpu. RX 470 is for like 1080p 60fps ultra which it looks like PS4 Pro is doing high at 1080p 60fps. This is why the X won't get many 4K games, the cpu in all the consoles are garbage. A Intel or Ryzen cpu in PS5 would be insanity. But, I would take better games with 1080p 60fps than no games with 4K 30fps.

Minmataro718 it's just that developers aren't utilizing it's full potential.

CesAlvz it’s not enhanced for it unfortunately

@Joaquin Elias González González a motion rig doesn't.🤣

Yes:)

@@Damian88846 do you live in the past?

@@OutreRim Yes

Fals3Agent noticed that too just fanboys being fanboys sadly

If an exclusive is good why not praise it?

So then praise the game and the and not the fact that it's an exclusive.

Host Deep ?

Host Deep, It's the fact that it's not.

Screen tearing sucks.

Joshua Minke some devs confirmed scorpio is easier to dev for , ac origins looks better on scorpio compared to pc ? Right now according to ubisoft

i imagine the Scorpio version will look very good, it does have alot of grunt, but i dont think it will be quite as good as the pc version, also depends on what they focus on, do they want higher resolution or higher visual settings

lol,ubisoft were also the people who said they prefer 30 fps as it's more cinematic.

Sanji Smutje lol its fucking ubisoft. the same company that claims all PC gamers are pirates

Where did Ubisoft say that?

It's not an advantage. It's been like this since what I remember in DOS. It's the standard. If anything, it's console's shortcoming set by their respective parties.