Disability in Treasure Planet 

Amelia doesn't just peg him. In some cut content / extra information from the directors, they explain that Amelia and dilbert are the same species. But the males just look like dilbert, the females just look like Amelia . Then, on top of that, the males are the ones who give birth and are pregnant. It kind of is a seahorse situation.

Also, I just remembered finding out that apparently, Amelia and Doppler are the same species, just that all men are dogs, and women are cats

This movie honestly SHOULD by all rights have been one of Disney's classics. It was a passion project for the creators, they'd been begging for AGES to make "treasure island in space," and you can see all of that love and passion poured into every god damn frame of the movie, every note of the score, the direction of the incredibly talented voice actors. But Treasure Planet released around the same time as Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, and The Santa Claus 2- two (at the time, RIP retrospect) well beloved franchise sequels VS a relatively niche SciFi adaptation of an extremely old cult novel.

id like to introduce a hypothetical third possibility for why he has the cane feature in his arm. whoever did his prosthetics has done enough of them to recognize the necessity of it, likely because someone else has had the same prosthetics and issues before silver this movie is one of my favorite movies from my childhood, and is still amazing today. it makes me incredibly disappointed we dont have more things that take creative liberties with how space works. its always the same empty lifeless void it is in real life

I love that Silver's prosthetics actually make him MORE human in defiance of every lazy trope

One of the most emotionally moving scenes in the entire film is when Jim asks asks Long John Silver how he got his disability and Silver looks like he’s recalling an incredibly painful memory, you can see it on his face. And then he tells Jim something deeply heartbreaking as I recall. Long John looks at his prosthetic arm and hand, obviously thinking about the traumatic incident that left his body so horribly mutilated and says with a look of absolute sadness in a tone of absolute vulnerability “You end up, losing a few things… chasing a dream.” Jim, clearly feeling deep sorrow for his mentor, knowing that whatever it was it must’ve been horrible beyond belief, then asks Silver sympathetically in an empathetic tone “Was it worth it?” In response Silver smiles warmly and puts his arm around Jim, and then in a fatherly tone that sounds truly hopeful about the future in spite of what has been done to him, Silver lovingly replies “I’m hoping so Jimbo… I most surely am.” It truly is one of the most underrated scenes in the entire movie.

One time my sister compared me to the protagonist of this. She thought she was insulting me, but little does she know she was giving me major gender euphoria

The closes the movie comes to using Silver's prosthetics to make him look 'monstrous' is when he's intimidating the crab alien and his eye takes on a narrow red look. In turn, we get the ending where Jim sees an image of him in the sky and the eye gets represented by a shining star, so it all balances out.

Fun fact, there was a planned sequel where apparently, Jim and co would reunite with Silver to find a stolen experimental ship, the Centurion

"Just a life long obsession Jimbo, I'll get over it."

I also love the added writing detail that Silver's prosthetics, or at least the full level of which he has them as he is classified as a cyborg by everyone, is seemingly a rare oddity or trait that verges on being like another kind of alien race. It's how Jim grew suspicious of him for a brief moment when they first met when he was told to watch out for "the cyborg". Also implied that alien are just so commonplace that you'd need a different thing to identify a particular person by. This world’s culture is truly mixed, I love it, there's no "the human district and the alien district population pockets of separation"/ "us versus them mentality" that tends to happen with this sci-fi stuff. I love this movie.

No matter how many new Disney movies come out Treasure Planet has been and always will be my favourite Disney movie of all time no matter what.

"That’s not how genetics work!" To be fair, as they're aliens, maybe it is?

my only main gripe with disabily rep in this movie is BEN, the robot, because it's once again a character with memory-issues that ends up being the comic relief despite themself, and way too clumsy and unaware of their environment. It's not all bad, there's really really cool stuff about him, but I don't know, kinda rubs me the wrong way how much the movie seems to say "hey look at him ugh he's so unsufferable because of his disability, and look how ridicule he is!"

They had a Ratio when designing the movie. Im pretty sure its 70%... uh, whatever time period pirate stories are typically in, 30% futuristic. Its glorious

I slowly became disabled over the past two years and it’s given me a new appreciation for the disability rep. I’m still learning a lot (if anyone has tips on how to reduce static electricity build up while using a wheelchair- please tell me), but at least I have things like this to turn to and remind me that my life isn’t over. Silver is disabled and still caused one heck of a ruckus, after all! As an artist, I’m also incredibly impressed by how well this movie holds up. CGI was still new at the time, but they managed to blend it in with a 2d environment so incredibly well (for the most part- there’s a couple scenes with the orb where the rendering is a bit off). The character designs all have excellent silhouettes and everything is just so… fantastical. And the characters?? UGH. Beautiful. I relate to Jim a lot (my POS father was mostly absent, I messed up and got put on probation, adventures felt like pure freedom to me, and I wanted to show the world that there was so much more to me than what they saw). This movie has made me cry on multiple occasions. It’s a movie that I care enough about to have actually purchased a physical copy as an adult. I recently got my cousin to watch it for the first time and although he was reluctant at first, he ended up loving it too. In hindsight, I think the fact that this movie didn’t make a huge splash upon release has helped make it even more popular now because it grants it an ‘underdog’ status, which I think has endeared it to viewers even more. Tl;dr: I love this movie, I love this movie, I love this-

Treasure Planet mentioned 😤As a child I used to watch it like, once a week every week. It's safe to say it molded me into the person I am. I'm still here truly was my anthem. People sometimes say the movie's aesthetic doesn't make sense "Why are the ships like that? Why are there whales?" um because it's COOL? Anyway- what was I saying... Silver's prosthetics are animated beautifully- the ways they move and operate are mesmerizing. 🥰🥰The movie has so many tiny little details that most viewers may not even notice but they add so much to the world and the characters and make it all so much more believable.

My dumbass when I saw the notification: "OAKWYRM SUMMONED TREASURE PLANET AT 3:00 AM!! 😮😮"

Dear god I LOVE Silver's prosthetic! As a kid I lost my SHIT over the scene of hom transformibg it to chop vegetables holy hell I hope we achieve that level of tech someday. That level of sheer functionality is way better than all the cliche blank minimalist lookin future prosthetics most scifi has. Holy hell you can TIE KNOTS with it!!

Thanks for making this video! I'm also an autistic trasmask guy with daddy issues and big love for the Treasure Planet. I'm not physically disabled, but your videos help me understand more, including on how to respectfully write a disabled character.

Design wise I think that what makes the good aliens “pretty” is that they have animalistic traits, more specific household pet, the doctor somewhat resembles a dog and the captain is basically a cat. Even silver falls somewhere in this logic since he’s a half human half bear alien, still a dangerous predator but a mammal that most people (myself included) find pretty. The other eviler aliens are more based on invertebrates like spider as and snails, a little bit of sea creatures like octopus, to with most people (this time not myself included, I love sea animals and insects/ spiders) find less appealing.

I freaking love this movie. Silver is peak character design and his robot arm is my absolute favorite depiciton of a scifi/fantasy mechanical arm ever.

“Im Still Here” is such a good trans anthem, alongside “Iris” by the Goo Goo Dolls. Both are songs that really made me emotional while I was still debating coming out as trans.

Trasure Planet is hands, and prostetic limbs down my favourite Disney of all time. It's always nice to see people appreciating it for it's many quailities.

Treasure planet and it’s theme, Im still here struck a particular chord with me growing up that i can safely say this is my all time favorite movie. My dad is a wonderful man, who honestly is a lot like john silver, and i love him dearly. But when i was young he was in the military and got deployed often and without warning so he would often have to leave me and my family behind, and it was hard. In fact for the first few years of my life, i couldn’t recognize him with his bald head so i more often then not got scared of him. So Jim’s father leaving him behind, really made me feel seen because thats how it felt at the time. Again my dad didn’t have much of a choice but i didn’t know that at the time and the fact we never get a concrete explanation explaination on why jims dad abandoned him and his mom lead me to believe he left due to similar reasons as my dad. As I grew up though this movie became my comfort movie to the point i practically have it memorized. For a breif moment it actually made me want to be an astronaut (before i chickened out when i learned that black holes actually do exist and what Mr. Arrow’s true fate was) but it’s why grew to adore space as much as i do. It’s why my online friends call me space cadet, and more importantly, the theme of I’m still here quite literally saved my life. I know that sounds like im exaggerating because im claiming a song saved me, but really, genuinely when i actually sat down and analyzed the lyrics it made me also even to this day, consider the song as my personal anthem. But if all of this wasn’t enough, i graduated school in 2022, and in December of that year, as a graduation gift to myself, i went with my sister and mother to get tattoos. And the very first tattoo i got? The space port moon, with the words I’m still here. Because i am still here. And im proud of myself for that

Speaking of subversions of the 'ugly is evil trope', I'd be so curious to hear your take on the Fallout TV show's use of facial differences. (It would be a spoiler to get much more specific but there's basically a vault full of folks with physical disabilities and I found those episodes very interesting, from a disabled perspective.)

This and Atlantis are some of my favourite movies of all time, and both are criminally underrated. I also love the original Treasure Island, probably my favourite book of all time, and both it and those two movies made me obsessed with pirates, the sea, and treasure hunts as a kid. And still as an adult, frankly. And there's a four part tv adaptation (it's in German, though I think also French, I don't know if there's an English dub), which I absolutely love! It's over five hours long in total, but I rewatch it at least once a year.

Interesting. People keep telling me to watch this movie, and this might be the push for me to actually do so.

10:30 Silver saving Jim *_with the use of his prosthetics_* is literally the accident becoming "worth it" like he hoped it would become. Jim, his foster son, was the treasure, and in realising that and saving him, Silver found that satisfaction he was looking for.

This movie was my lifeblood. and also what you said about "Im still here" augh i adore this movie to bits

I think the disabled villian trope is not just not there but actually subverted with jim being suspicious of "the cyborg" at bones's dying words. Jim then warms up to silver becuase at this point the audience doesnt know hes the cyborg bones was talking about. Then when the huge betrayal happens its not bc hes inherently evil, its bc his morals are wack which doesnt have anything directly to do with his disabilities

This video is wonderful! Disabilities has such a long history of being badly handled in stories, it's so nice to excitedly focus on disabled characters that bring us joy! ☺️

Children's movies can portray disabilities with respect.

man, this might be the video that convinces me to finally try to actually watch Treasure Planet instead of always going "oh yeah that sounds cool"

A thought I have is that he may have had to replace the arm and leg over the years as he aged, so there’s definitely plenty of room and time for him to have made changes over time

I really like the detail of Silver's prosthetics being 3D animated while the rest of him is animated in 2D. It shows more of a dissonance between his flesh and metal parts.

Honestly it’s channels like yours that make me feel more comfortable and beautiful in my own skin. I will now proudly say what I am more loudly even if people think it’s woke of me to dare mention it. I have hinderances but I’m not disabled in the common sense. I do have aids I use for my bilateral carpal tunnel but irregardless I have always had an emotional connection with characters who have physical hinderances, or disabilities or who are neurodivergant like myself. It can be something so simple like a Tiny Tim cane or complex like Silver, or it can be Toph’s blindess or Gabriella from The Little Mermaid show being mute/deaf(you should cover that character!). Even if the disability is by choice or actually helps them rather than hinders, I love to see it. I love to see all well meaning good representation. Disney either hits it out of the park with that or misses it so hard it hurts. This was a home run! Angsty teen with daddy issues goes on space adventure trying to make his mama proud and encounters planet pirates? Sign me up! And wonderful representation? It’s a shame this didn’t become bigger, it could have changed so many things, but alas…people were not kind to it and now that time has said otherwise Disney remains unkind to it. To me though, this film matters, if not for one thing than another. Thank you for your review of this! You’re something special, you are, you’re going to rattle the stars. ❤️

I adored this movie as a child, and still do; I never clocked into the disability rep but is funny how this movie, despite having him be an antagonist, manages to dodge all the bullets so many movies from its time, (and before, and after,) did.

It now just hit me, Silver is the same alien species as Doppler and Amelia (they're confirmed the same species and the males are the ones who give birth). He has the same kinda of ears, nose, hands, and skin colors. I know he doesn't look as much of a dog, but he kinda has a bulldog kinda vibe to Delberts scruffy hound.

Disabled antagonist done right~

Something interesting that was revealed by the animators of the film is that most of the settings of Silver´s arm are actually weapons either in disguise or repurposed as kitchen utensils; for example when Silver cooks his stew he uses; the inner mechanisms of the cannon he uses in the mutiny, a cleaver that´s actually his saber half-deployed, 3 claws that are supposed to be used for lockpicking and the igniter of the cannon.

6:37 - 6:51 With all of the Prosthetic being on one side I am willing to bet that it was to help the animators keep consistency, it is VERY easy to get things like that mixed up with how many folks are working on a thing like this, I can imagine the conversation between them in the alternative reality where is more spread out ;p "ok so with Silvers prosthetic where he has a prosthetic arm on the right, a prosthetic leg on the left, a prosthetic eye on the right, and a prosthetic ear on the left......... or was it the other way around? I heard it was eye and ear on the left arm and leg on the left. Etc Etc with all the different combination" the CGI puppet made with all the limbs is mainly invisible aside from the limbs and the peg leg would be easy to mistake for one side or another, so it is just simpler to have it all on the right side.

Hopefully we won’t get a live action remake.

I feel like I'd have been Massively into this film if fandoms had been more accessible to me age 7. I saw it when it first came out, and I was still interested enough in it at 11 to try and base a science presentation on it (and realise that space physics and blackholes were way above my brain-grade at the time). I feel like this and Atlantis hit the same sort of thread for me. As it was I didn't really discover fandom actively until almost a decade later, but it's still nice to see this film circulating.

treasure planet was and still is my favorite movie ever, i love it so much and im glad so many people recognize how good it is

I watched it in theaters and still love it.

Treasure Planet has got to be the most popular underrated film of all time at this point, I’ve heard so many people all it underrated. I agree with all the praise, by the way, just to be clear. Just an observation.

I knew this movie was good disability rep but I didn't realize how good it was. I didn't even notice the arm cane until you pointed it out.

Yeah antagonist don’t have to be villains just like how protagonist don’t have to be heroes

I grew up watching Treasure Planet and it's still my favourite comfort movie ever that I will watch at least twice a year. I'm Still Here is also such a banger.

There is so much weight behind the "You give up a few things, chasing a dream." It always made me wonder if losing his limbs was somehow his choice or fault. Like he took a risk chasing after Flints map and he rationalized the consequences. I can almost hear him saying "I'd give up ALL my limbs just to get a handful of that treasure!" Which is poignant for him choosing Jim in the end. Plus comparing Silver to Jim's dad... It made me feel like Jim's dad chose to give up his family chasing whatever selfish dream he had. Parallels baby!

God this movie is great. Treasure Island was one of my favorite books growing up, and this movie is both such a wonderful adaptation of it AND stands its own ground extremely well.

This is the movie that I wish a book series was made by the original writers and artists. In my dreams, this movie would be the first book, the second book would be him at the special flight(?) academy he enrolls to at the end, the third book would be him reuniting with Silver, etc.

Was impatiently waiting for exactly this, thank you!

One of the best movies ever, with one of the most heartwarming and tragic stories about it getting made. It deserves 1000000x more praise

Thank you for that little comment about how to use a cane. I was drawing a disabled oc of mine who uses a cane, and I just guessed which hand to draw holding the cane. Nice to know that I was right.

space piracy is my whole jam so yeah, love this movie

Well now i might give this movie a shot

Yay! I was hoping you’d cover this movie! I recently fully watched this movie and I found it to be so, so charming. Plus, John Silver was one of my absolute favorite characters, so I was curious to see your thoughts on him.

I had a fear of space (even fantasy one) at the young age, so I rewatched this movie when I was older and it is forever my favourite movie since then. I love the theme with parental interactions and a general concept of the world to represent the story. And the ending 😭👍

Giving yourself some leeway when you need it is always good. Take care of yourself =)

i love this movie too! so underrated Disney did it dirty 😔

Treasure planet is my favorite Disney movie. It's what got me interested in space and the aesthetic is on point! It's probably also what got me to love cyborg characters wo much. Another wonderfully insightful video!

I loved this movie as a kid. Now that I’m older I appreciate it even more. This and Atlantis the lost empire are movies that truly standout among the other Disney classics.

God this movie is so pretty. I honestly wish that more adaptations would do this kind of thing where it's a lot of old stuff, but with cool, futuristic updates that would keep the feel of the original while still looking so pretty. Also, since my parents were big into sailing and we lived on a bay, Jim's sail board and the other small vessels they use throughout the movie always reminded me of, respectively, a wind board and a lido (which is actually what I learned to sail on). Just... able to move in 3D space instead of being glued to the water's surface. As for Silver's prosthetics, I always thought they were cool, and how he handled them through the movie was incredible. Obviously I wouldn't trade my flesh arm for his, but if I had to have a prosthetic, I wish it'd be like Silvers. Though that's gotta be a pain in extreme temps or on planets with different gravity and magnetic fields.

In the "Official Sequel" of Treasure Planet: Battle At Procyon, Silver sacrifices himself so Jim can escape being almost rammed by a dreadnought, a very heartbreaking moment because we as the player KNOW he did not survive, but Jim hopes he escaped somehow, just like how he evaded the authorities during the events of the film

Loved this movie and the way it's presented was something that made me adore it. Just the way that it humanizes both Jim and Silver while causing them to realize how much the other is like them is great, because Jim comes to view Silver as a father figure while Silver becomes more emotionally open and treats Jim almost like a son. The first time I saw this movie was after buying it from Blockbuster, a few years before I was diagnosed with autism, and during the montage with "I'm Still Here" I connected with Jim and both his intelligence and trying to prove himself despite lacking a father. The fact the movie was done with deep canvas to meld the CG with 2D art to make the environments feel more expansive, that it was done as a passion project by Musker & Clements, and the music ties everything together makes it one of the best Disney movies I've ever seen. I've loved how Delbert is both a genius and social outcast despite his focus on astronomy (something that saves everyone) and in some cases he comes off as an ASD-coded character both with his dialogue and the way he's presented makes the movie feel far more grounded

I haven't watched treasure planet since I was a child and this video made me want to watch it again, so thank you

Treasure Planet and Atlantis were the only Movies that deserves to have a live action remake. I don't want Disney to make them now due to them sucking at every movie they come out with recently. Some other company maybe if they got permission.

I will add that the scene with Amelia and Dilbert's children is exactly like _Lady and the Tramp_ (three girls and one boy), so I always took it to be a direct nod to that, rather than being an inability to get over an old trope. Also, I have loved this movie for a long time.

i remember finding the VHS of this movie when i was 5 or 6 in a box full of disney films my parents collected over the years and immediatly falling in love with it. to this day its one of, if not my favourite disney film.

This is honestly great timing. Last month, I actually remembered the movie and I've been asking some people I knew if they ever had a copy, but so far out of luck. I'm Still Here hits harder now that I am older. It's been a decade or more now.

It's one of the absolute besy Disney movies ever made! I love it so much!

I think, through snippets of dialogue and a few looks he gives at times, that Silver's injury was caused by the destruction of one of the ships he served on when they got close without the map. Basically they ended up in a bad spot and the ship got blown and he was more or less the only survivor. It's not all stated together, and I could be reading into that, but it feels like how I talk about trauma in snippets and brief asides and allusions until people can basically just figure it out without me ever saying it directly (people hate when you do that lmao but sometimes you need consideration about it)

Treasure Planet is a slept-on, stone-cold classic!

Yay treasure planet is being talked about!

What perfect timing that this drops the day before I start a Treasure Planet DnD campaign with my friends! Glad to see one more person that appreciates the worldbuilding and writing of this movie!

I actually never watched Treasure Planet. But now I think I have to. I wanted to when I was a kid because I love Atlantis, but we just never got the VHS of it and streaming wasn't at all a thing back then. It's so weird having so much access to things I wished I could have seen/read/played as a kid.

Hi, I know your channel often talks about characters with disabilities and while I have only watched a few of your videos I do have a game series you can discuss. It's Metal Gear Solid. The game has tons of disabled characters such as Kazuhira Miller, who lost a leg and an amr. I think he also has cataracts. He's seen using a mobility aid. Many ppl know him from that iconic speech "Why are we still here? Just to suffer?" lol

Im so sad they never made the tv show. It would have been emperor's new groove level good.

So excited to see the combination of your incredible analysis and one of my favorite movies of all time.

09:48 Oh, that's a detail I never noticed before: He's holding the hot pot with a cloth to protect his organic hand, but touching the pot directly with his prosthetic, because it can't feel the heat. (Or, I think he can't, at least the same way. Do these have nerve integration in the movie? A little from the leg, maybe, or was that yell just surprise and being suddenly off-balance?)

I didn’t even notice the cane thing until you showed it to me. This video was great, I loved this movie ever since I was a kid.

I love treasure planet and I got into it when I was younger but a long time after when it was released because I was born in 2002

I love this movie it's in a tie with Hunchback of Notre Dame as my all time favorite animated film.

I'm curious! Have you watched Our Flag Means Death??? If yes, what do you think about their representation of disability (especially Ed in season 1 and Izzy in season 2)?

my favorite Didney movie :D

one reason why i love max so much from mad max, he got shot in the knee in the first movie and ever since he's had a homemade leg brace but it's never directly refenced or talked about. it's clear that it effects him as in the video game when ever you jump off an object or get out of a movie vehicle you spend a few seconds getting back to speed as his leg lags behind. a lot of thought was put into his character from the second movie on

"Women in positions in of power in media often are presented as the kind of characters who need to be knocked down a peg." I'm not quite sure what you may be referencing here, I've seen very little of this. The thing I see a lot nowadays is that being true for every man in a position of power in media.

I love this mo ie too! To the point that every time you stopped yourself from further gushing on a point/the film as a whole, my soul cried out "no keep going." This movie has so much to gush over and I will happily nod along to anyone doing so. Thank you so much for this video and sharing your love of this film.

Can you do Fizzarolli and Blitz from helluva boss next? Also a bit of a heads up if you don’t know the white parts on imps skin are scars the only ones that aren’t is the character Moxxies freckles

I remember seeing this in theaters woth my grandma as a kid! At the time, it actually scared me kinda bad, but that also could've been "overstimulated autistic child" stuff too, lol. (Specifically the eyeball in the soup scene freaked me out tho lmao) Rewatching it, I relate(d) to Jim so much as a character as a teen. As an adult it's definitely one of my favorite movies. So many of the films from that era of Disney are severely underrated!!

It is one of my absolutely favourite movies too and you are right, it is indeed criminally underrated. I’m glad you talked about this, it makes me happy somehow❤

God this was such a great movie. ALso holy shit, early!

Wonder if there is potential for a vid on pirate peg legs.

you got me to watch treasure planet and now im obsessed- thanks!

I think the emergency cane is improvised/ a secondary function. in a scene with scrupe we see that he has a vice or clamp attachment, the foot of the cane appears to be this vice jaw opened up to be flat, and the reach maxed out/ fully extended.

I also first saw this movie during a hard time / not long after another dark period ended and I was stuck with the thoughts for a long time. My second viewing of this movie changed my opinino enitrely from the first viewing and hit me like a rock. It's been nearly 2 years now and i'm still stuck with loving this movie.

Hey there! Glad to see you back. I really appreciate your videos. They give me a new perspective or you're able to articulate some things I find weird in films. Anyway I really loved this move i too.

Oakwyrm talking about my favorite Disney film was already good news. ❤ Said news got even better when he confirmed that both the film in general and Silver in particular are about as good as I thought they were. (I do also agree about the couple negatives that did come up though).