Now that this video has premiered let me make something clear. My anger towards the end of this video, while genuine, is a little over-exaggerated. On it's own, the Elder Princess Shroob rant mildly annoys me, but it's that combined with the other rants that makes me so upset. For the record, it's incredibly rare that I ever hate one of Charriii's videos. In fact, I can only really point out three videos that fall under that category with this being one of them. So those specific videos aside, my disclaimer is still valid.
@@An_Account1 EWW Sonic Rush Adventure and EWW Undertale. I almost hate his Sonic 06 and Forces videos, but to be fair, most of the fan base acts the same way he does when talking about those games.
@@tonysonic456 Undertale, I understand, Charriii makes a lot of faulty points, but Sonic Rush Adventure, I haven't watched that video. Are you planning on making a video on that?
Fun fact:I had over DOUBLE the amount of experience that Charriii had at the end of the game in STAR HILL for heck’s sake (I kinda sucked at dodging and went through the game as a glass cannon, always investing in power and equipping the muscle slacks and thrilling pants for the rest of the game which made me go back and grind for a bit before every boss just in case) but STILL level 23 is absurdly low
I like how "dark Tony" is a supportive edgey(?) Persona lol other RU-vidrs personalities often clash,but him saying sure thing buddy to the add 100 sins part, it's a wholesome end to a angry rant lol good luck enduring his channel, and remember to take deep breaths (tho I know you probably are just exaggerating as you say, but just try to approach things with a calmer rational mind lol)
Everything Wrong with this video: -3:13 why would Baby Bowser want to force Baby Peach into playing with him? He has a whole army my guy - 5:39 Yes but even then how would have Elder Princess Shroob been able to confirm what their species was called when she was trapped in the cobalt star? - 6:00 Like 95% of these sins are “nitpicks” I don’t know where you’re going with this - 6:25 Firstly, how is this a “pop culture” reference, secondly, the sin here was Chariii not liking the l33t hammer bros, how is that not a sin? - 7:42 2 years isn’t that long of a time to forget a move as crucial as the spin jump - 8:05 ok, so what’s stopping Mario and Luigi from getting most of the Yoshis and pushing themselves, huh? - 10:58 ok so you know that he wasn’t use bros items yet you still called him a liar for him saying that the bosses took a long time? - 11:19 Well just because you got used to the 4 face buttons doesn’t mean everyone else will - 13:45 Ok sure, but even if Mario didn’t know Luigi just got whacked by a hammer, why didn’t Mario question why Luigi got mad for no reason? - 14:39 if this is a reference to something then, one, I don’t get it, two, pop culture reference that isn’t a sin of the video cliché - 15:10 You compare being crushed by a human to being crushed by a stone slab saying that the stone slab will hurt but the human won’t, sooooo what’s your explanation for when Mario gets smaller by getting hit was a stone hammer? - 15:17 I agree to an extent, but there are definitely some cases where I think complaints like this are somewhat justified, usually when a game lays down some rules and those rules are broken. As an example, the question about skeletons being malleable is justified considering that Mario and Luigi have always been able to have been hurt or killed by getting crushed yet these rules are bent just for a few moves - 19:17 Yes because women are ready to possibly kill people if they, intentionally or not, insult them - 20:18 How’s he gonna “remember what you said about bros items?” It’s a pre-recorded video - 20:58 if it’s a “mixture of both languages” then how come the text that is still the same Shroob gibberish? - 21:16 I think he was trying ask how she could have fit into a disguise that is nothing like her proportions at all? - 22:32 this is third time you’ve sinned this one thing he’s been doing and I don’t even care anymore - 26:30 Another complaint about bros items. Ok I know, it is kind of annoying that Chariii just didn’t use them, but the least you can do is not point it out every time he complains about it and just give him like, I don’t know 5 sins of the bat - 26:46 From the “capital” spelling mistake earlier to this now, I can tell you were REALLY trying to tug at the last possible strings you could for sins - 27:19 Well just because you can learn from it doesn’t mean that it’s not bs. When every other enemy attack in the game can be dodged or countered, this just comes off as dumb - 28:20 Luigi hasn’t accomplished much? Mario wouldn’t even have been able to get even close to as far as he is now without Luigi. And if we want to go way back, Mario would still be trapped in a painting if it weren’t for Luigi. And if we want to go REALLY back, Mario would still be missing without Luigi Alright I’m done, it’s 12am and I want to go to sleep
Well, I figured I'd respond to your points on the bosses as people on my discord have noticed something about Charriiis points. What you misunderstood about his points is that he was actually talking almost exclusively about the bosses difficulty, not their quality, and in your KH3 Clip, he kinda brought them up seperately. And I've seen quite a few people say that PITs bosses are hard. Was Charriii underleveled? Yeah but given how most would still agree with his assessments, I'd say his points are fair game. (Basically what I'm saying is that there's a difference between difficulty and quality) As an example, Many consider games like Crash 1, Dark Souls and Cuphead to be great games-but they also consider them to be very hard. Now you could argue my point is somewhat flawed and it admittedly is. But I wouldn't exactly say its wrong either, especially since people would agree with my and Charriiis assessments. I'm not sure if you intentionally ignored that part from the clip you showed cus your were pissed that he was sinning something you personally like at all. Or if you missed that in editing the video. (Tho the formers prolly more plausible if 06 is anything to go by), but I'll just say that make sure your giving out correct information and dont let your personal feelings get in the way. You can't use your opinions, you have to use facts. I've been where you've been in a way as well. I originally wanted to a commentary on Geek Critiques Heroes video. But after awhile I learnt that it was mainly my personal bias speaking and I scrapped the idea (Albeit, this scenario is different from the one here). Basically, my point is dont let your personal feelings blind you. If you want to debate, im up for that.
That doesn't mean much Charrii5 doesn't bother use bros attacks so he's giving himself a extreme difficulty spike for no reason also in the younger princess shroom fight Tony clearly shows that Charrri5 is under level as he was level 23 fighting a boss that's level 31 and also 37:23 and yet he's sinning a boss the community likes. Are you just saying this to make tony look bad.
@@ethanpena4294 even though those difficulties are either him being underlevel or not using bros items something your supposed to do when playing this game.
@@ethanpena4294 Doesn't change that fact that he was underlevel and if your complaining that a boss is bad because its hard ,which is what sonic king is refer to (What you misunderstood about his points is that he was actually talking almost exclusively about the bosses difficulty, not their quality, ) and only reason it was that hard was because you put yourself far disadvantage than that make no sense.
Excuse me, but it's not just Tony that like Elder Princess shroob. I like her to, in fact, more than cackletta Soul from Superstar Saga because the boss fight was challenging and I like a challenge. Also it's yours and charriii5 opinion that partners in time is not the best but in my opinion I like this better then Superstar saga and (kill me for this) Bowser's inside story yah I said it it's my opinion so sew me.
One thing i don't get, maybe ill do a eww about your eww about charriii5's eww (not really), is actually a fundemental issue with how you've been taking sins. For starters, the good side is you are VERY informative, ive learned a lot about several games that i never would have before. But the downside is you often criticize charriii5 for nitpicking which 9/10 times, is the point of the sins. Charriii5 has stated he doesn't want to label these as reviews, which is why up until recently, he never really factored in gameplay, and moreso logic loops in stories. He takes things that dont do much to mess up the story, and point fun of it. Sure from time to time he gets a bit game review type of rants, but often its because the point sticks out to where a player, who is experiencing the game, is actually frustrated
37:10-38:08 He said he would chose to not sin if everyone agrees the boss is hard, not if everyone loves it/if it is popular. The majority of people think Elder Princess Shroob is a good fight…but EVERYONE agrees it’s a hard fight. So Chariii is right.
Charriii's mindset is hard fights = bad fights which as Elder Princess Shroob proves is blatantly false. Every time Charriii has said "F*k this fight!" for a fight being hard, he is very obviously saying that the fight is bad, but Elder Princess Shroob isn't bad. It's a little hard, but bad is the last thing anyone would use to describe it.
@@tonysonic456 Based on... What? You don't exactly disprove the point here. You're not exactly in a position to be making decisions for Charriii nor are you the judge, Jury and/or executioner of gaming. Stop throwing around baseless accusations w/o any source to back it up. You pulled this crap in Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Forces, TSR, Nights(ignoring the fact you got some much info in the video wrong btw), SA1&2(the latter only being mentioned since it's relevant to SA1) Forces and several more. I'd be more forgiving of this if he was flat out forcing his opinion but as stated multiple times, he doesn't.
@@tonysonic456 who tf is DT, and even still, how were either of us supposed to know until AFTER the fact that Luigi was insulted to the point to which he starts crying.
Horray there are clone boss fights MY FAVORITE Junior Shrooboid and Elder Shrooboid (would’ve made more sense if it was reversed btw) and also this game has like one of the best Bowser fights ever and I love how each game where you fight bowser focuses on the games mechanic, this game he teams up with his baby self, bowser inside story he uses his moves that you use when your actually playing as him(makes he wish there was a mario bros fight lol), dream team he using someone in the dream world to power up hes abilities, paper jam he teams up with his paper self, and in superstar saga he uhhhh well does that even count? (Yeah no)
17:06 - 17:11 To add onto that, since that "Peach" was actually Princess Shroob disguised, she probably just used some high-tech shield to protect her, like the one she uses in her bossfight. 27:18 - 27:27 Also, this is the same with the normal Rex in Superstar Saga, yet they didn't sinned that on the video. And what's with Fawful Minion laugh-talking? 🤨
I'm about to fight Princess Shroob, and everyone's EXP is in the mid to high 30000s range at the moment (Mario has 35763 EXP, Luigi has 35757 EXP, Baby Mario has 37285 EXP, and Baby Luigi has 37261 EXP), meaning I'm at level 27, and I'm four levels higher than both Charriii5 and Nathaniel Bandy, both of whom are at level 23 (though Charriii5 has Luigi at level 24). Princess Shroob is level 29, Elder Princess Shroob's first phase is level 30, and her second phase is level 31. This means I'm two, three, and four levels below before the respective fights/phases, and I'm considering grinding some more to be on par with at least one of them because I feel like I'm a bit underleveled. Using the level-up progression chart for this game, here's how much EXP is needed for levels 27 to 31. Level 27 (my current level): The adults need 34222 EXP, and the babies need 37174 EXP. Level 28: The adults need 39022 EXP, and the babies need 40954 EXP. Level 29 (Princess Shroob's level): The adults need 42802 EXP, and the babies need 44914 EXP. Level 30 (Elder Princess Shroob's first phase level): The adults need 46762 EXP, and the babies need 49054 EXP. Level 31 (Elder Princess Shroob's second phase level): The adults need 50902 EXP, and the babies need 53374 EXP.
Update: I have finally beaten the game at level 27. I used both the Mix Flower and Trampoline to finish off both Princess Shroob and Elder Princess Shroob, and I showed Shrowser who's boss.
Damn have I wanted to play this and all the other Mario And Luigi games, I might not care about Mario, but I can see myself playing these games all day.
Big news! Charriii5’s Everything Wrong With Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam has just came out today! I’m assuming you’ll be tackling Charriii5’s Everything Wrong with Bowser’s Inside Story AKA my favourite game in the series even though The Grand Finale is extremely overrated by many as Shiny RoboBowser is my new favourite Mario & Luigi final boss theme nowadays. Then Dream Team and then lastly Paper Jam.
Yep, I literally I just watched his Paper Jam video. It's definitely on my bad side. I'm going to finish the Bowser's Inside Story video today and have it premiere tomorrow.
Someday I will, but I want to play the games first before covering them. They’re coming to the Switch soon in Cloud form; so maybe if they’re priced decently, I’ll check them out then.
@@skibot9974 No, I’m an Xbox and Switch guy currently. Luckily, they’re also on Xbox, and I’ve heard good things about those versions. Especially considering the Switch versions are… Yikes.
Disclaimer: Just because I hate a video doesn't mean I hate the person who made it. Everything wrong with the video: Sin 5: DT sins something he doesn't even know about cliche. And starting off, we already have a cliche. I've got a bad feeling about this. +1 sin. (1) Sin 8: Nope, that's double dipping if I've ever seen it. +1 sin. (2) Sin 10: If the FNAF video is anything to go by, you do the same thing Mr. Hypocrite. +1 sin. (3) Sin 12: Tony sins jokes cliche. +1 sin. (4) Sin 13: That's clearly not what Logan meant. He was joking about Baby Mario accidentally hitting Luigi. +1 sin. (5) Wait. Before we move on, what was that? 6:42 I can still hear him say "fuck" yet you sin Charriii for editing errors. DT is a hypocrite cliche. +1 sin. (6) Sin 14: How do you know? You don't know how long it's been. There are references to Mario's anniversaries, sure, but we still don't know the time gap. +1 sin. (7) Sin 16: Tony sins jokes while making a forced SMG4 reference. +2 sins. (9) Sins 18-20: To debunk all of your points, you are sinning someone's personal opinion while being biased. And Charriii's not bad at the game. If he was playing the game completely wrong, (looking at you DarkSydePhil) you would have a point, but you are sinning Charriii's personal opinion while insulting him when he's not being bad. You get one sin each this time, but if it happens again, you are getting five. +3 sins. (12) Sin 23: Mario may not know that Luigi didn't do that, but it's still mean spirited, and since this also happened in the Superstar Saga video, I'm giving you two sins. +2 sins. (14) Sin 25: Hmmmmmm... It's almost like he knows that and that's a joke. Oh, wait. It is. +1 sin. (15) Sin 26: Maybe you and your overly loyal fanboys should learn to suspend your disbelief. He's clearly suspending his disbelief and using it as a joke. Also, Tony insults Charriii cliche. Now you are just making yourself look bad. +1 sin. (16) Sin 27: I would make a "Tony makes a Simpsons reference" joke, but that was in the last rebuttal and I don't want to repeat myself. Sin 29: I get the point that you are trying to make, but you are still sinning what is clearly a joke. +1 sin. (17) Sin 31: Did Charriii say that was out of E. Gadd's character? I don't see how he did. He was just sinning the fact that there was no reason for E. Gadd to have built the Hydrogush 4000. +1 sin. (18) Sin 32: It's almost like Logan is joking. +1 sin. (19) Sin 33: Is that sexist? I think that's sexist. +1 sin. (20) Sin 35: Stop being snarky and telling people how to play a game... +1 sin. (21) Sin 38: Oh god, we have a problem here. (shouting in the background) Hey! Someone tell Tony what a joke is! +1 sin (22) Sin 39: I'll tell you what that bullshit was. IT WAS A GODDAMN JOKE! And since you sinned jokes two times in a row, I'm giving you two sins instead of one. +2 sins. (24) Sin 40: THREE. TIMES. IN A GODDAMN ROW. Three sins for you. +3 sins. (27) Sin 41: I will stay true to my word. Also, coupled that with insulting Charriii is worth an extra sin. +6 sins. (33) Sin 42: Oh my god, SIX TIMES?! That's worth ten sins! +10 sins. (43) Sin 42: SEVEN TIMES?! Oh my god, for the rest of this video, you are getting twenty sins every time you sin jokes! +20 sins. (63) Sin 44: True, but it still makes Luigi feel terrible about himself. And it is never fun to see Luigi get tortured in this series. +1 sin. (64) Sin 45: You had it and then you double dipped. +1 sin. (65) Sin 47: See above. +5 sins. (70) Sin 48: Shut up you two hypocrites. +2 sins. (72) Sin 50: Wow, you actually made a good point and didn't insult Logan. I am impressed. -1 sin. (71) Sin 51: He's still insulting Luigi. +2 sins. (73) Sin 55: You would have a point, if you didn't make it sound like Charriii was stupid. +1 sin. (74) Sins 57 and 58: 1. STOP. FUCKING. TELLING. HIM. HOW. TO. PLAY. THE GAME. +1 sin. 2. And you are insulting Charriii while sinning his personal opinion. I'm going to give you ten sins instead of five because of how blunt you are here. +10 sins. (85) Sin 69: Nope I'm just going to give you ten sins for you not only forcing your gameplay style on Charriii and forcing on how to play the game, but because you acted like this was the single worst thing ever. Wait. Oh god. +10 sins. (95) Sin 170: Okay, instead of giving you five sins, I'm going to give you ONE THOUSAND! Again, this is his opinion. Not only do you act like an ABSOLUTE BITCH about his opinions, but you also insult him for it, and treat your personal opinions as cannon as if Charriii's are just ASS. In fact, this might be the main problem with your channel! I admit, I do love this fight, but giving someone one hundred sins just for having a diffrent opinion than yours is UNACCEPTABLE. Not only that, but you insult Charriii like he's an asshole douche! I'm just going to say it. I FUCKING HATE THIS VIDEO! I don't fucking care about what crap you are going to give me, YOU CAN'T CHANGE MY MIND! ONE THOUSAND SINS FOR YOU! +1,000 sins. (1,095) Sin 171: 39:21 Oh look, Tony makes a completely unfunny and terrible joke. +1 sin. (1,096) Sin 172: Screw it, I'm just going to give you one hundred sins for insulting Logan for I don't know what time now. +100 sins. (1,196) Sin 174: That wasn't the point. The point is that it sucks that there's no Partners in Time remaster. This is probably the hundredth time that you've twisted context. +1 sin. (1,197) Total Sin Count: 1,197 Sentence: TonySonic's Bogus Video.
In excited to see the rest of this, also, although charriii is technically subjecting his opinions on the bosses as fact, TS always does that so maybe edit that one sin and have the others sin him on those for hypocrisy. Also, did you take notes from my PIT response? I noticed some things you said are similar to things I said.
@@sussy-sonic Yes I took some pages form your response, but is that a bad thing? I saw that Tony said that you took a few pages from DS’s rebuttal on Sonic Generations. But either way, I will make this stand out from yours as much as possible.
@@DKCGaming339 Theres no problem with that. I was just wondering, and if I did have a problem with it, it'd be hypocritical cus like you said, I took notes from DS when making My Gens response. Also tony said he felt like I copy and pasted DS response, and I admitted I took notes from him.
@@sussy-sonic Alright. I’m going to finish this rebuttal in a few minutes. By the way, be sure to check out my Superstar Saga rebuttal if you have not seen it yet.
I agree with your side of the whole Elder Princess Shroob fight, but I do have a few issues with your argument. First, that is a LOT of HP, almost double the HP the European and Japanese versions deal with, and considering Japanese games tended to come out in Japan before the Americas, that’s pretty unfair that the United States was forced to have a more difficult version. Second, Bros attacks are treated differently in this game, because instead of Brothers Points, they work like items, meaning you won’t be able to replenish any once it runs out in a fight since there’s no syrup thing in this game. In short Mix Flowers can only be used so much. Third, while I *do* agree that Chariii5 *really* should have done more grinding on enemies a lot more frequently (that’s probably why it took forever for him), even on par level wise, that fight can still take a while. I can’t really blame you for acting angry because it was an act, and Chariii should’ve worded that WAY differently. I have lost my tempter too when someone insults something I really enjoy, like for example the Sun and Moon part of the Pokémon Anime, so I won’t hold that against you, sometimes you need to let it out, I get it. Although…do not ask me how speedrunners beat Elder Princess Shroob because I genuinely have NO CLUE!😅
41:28 (Disclaimers there is bad gramer and a lot of ranting about paper Mario just because I need to get it out also for gramer it's just because my mouse pad does not want to work, sorry) The reason i'm typing this is because paper mario is really sucks right now, really origomi king but we will get to that later first lets talk about super paper mario the main problem I have with the game is the combat; I get what they were trying to do but the enemy's have way to little HP to really be fun and it's so easy to cheese levels ups by grinding and I guess the art direction but that's just a personal thing but overall game and story are good but not as good. Now STICKER STAR this is a interesting one and I don't hate it (don't kill me) but they changed a lot like not HAVING EXP or PARTNERS at all also no interesting characters but I don't mind it but it's starting to tick me off that paper mario did that. I'm going to talk about color splash with origomi king and this is where the rant comes in; Origomi king is by far the WORST PAPER MARIO GAME you want to why because of it's combat (not boss fights) a lot of people complain that color splash is that the combat takes to long and I can't believe people say it's so called fixed because sometimes it's like switch once and that's it but sometimes it's like a giant group of enemy's that is almost not possible to figure out without using a lot of coins and well fawful's minions video from this clip says it all. ru-vid.comUgkxgBKMGHVhrHfJuqHN-h-EloeKQI2AiPuo and you may say well the characters are good well ya your right they are well except for the villian here listen to this ru-vid.comUgkxEqVS2epFoMioY4UfVI_zVRWf74qGMu6D Another thing is that at least color splash had a level up system of some sort not anymore were back to sticker star. and here is the worst part mario and luigi did what a RPG is and they died while paper mario IS SELLING ALMOST I KID YOU NOT 3 MILLION COPIES ON A GAME THAT SUCKS! i'm sorry that went that far thank you for reading if you made it this far. Oh ya just a question are you going to do paper mario at some point?
It’s all good. You had a lot to say. On the note with Origami King’s battles, while I personally haven’t played the game, I’ve heard that battles net you both coins and confetti that you need to fill holes in the environment. Granted, you can get quite a lot of confetti from the overworld, but I’ve heard that in dungeons, it’s a lot scarcer. Doesn’t make the combat good, but at least there’s a little incentive to fight enemies. I do agree with your point on Mario & Luigi. Even without playing most of the Paper Mario games, heck the only I’ve played prior to this comment is Super, I’ve always considered Mario & Luigi to be the superior RPG because it found a combat system that’s fun and found new ways to make it better with every game. Oh, and it actually deserves the title of RPG. The latter three Paper Mario games shouldn’t even be called RPGs at all. Because of this, we got five at the very least good games and two remakes, which granted introduced the worst modes in the series but at least they’re not mandatory, and even though the bros. might be dead now, at least they died with dignity. It’s rare that a series lives and dies without having a single truly bad game. But they pulled it off, and we love them for it. All that said, I’ll cover his Paper Mario videos eventually. I have big plans for next year though; so it’s not going to be anytime soon.
@@tonysonic456 and i'm not saying it's bad to like origomi king but I prefer color splash (I have only played 3 paper mario games and playing super right now so ya) keep up the good work, cant wait for the rest of them
@TonySonic Do you realize that charriii5 is the only one that complains about the boss fights but logan/fawful's minion says nothing probably because he thought it was easy like he said about Dreamy Bowser in the Dream Team video
Welp i just replayed this game to test your opinions and HOLY SH** IM NOW JUST REALIZING HOW HORRIBLE THIS VIDEO IS i was underleveled which was the whole reason and now i feel dumb but DAMN AM I NOW CRINGING AT EVERY SECOND OF HIS VIDEO like where do i even begin but now i fought most enemies i could find and the bosses were more balanced and fun not 30 minutes like WHAT THE F-
Because there’s a difference between a misspell, and adding too many sins or not adding a sin at all, especially when the point he makes is a good one.
@@tonysonic456 The Ephrommentator has entered the chat. But seriously, this is super hypocritical. Especially when you pulled this shit on his older videos which is a pretty scummy move.
That was quicker than I thought. I like this game, but other than Paper Jam, it's my least favorite in the series. The game feels too unbalanced (although that could be just me avoiding normal enemy encounters and the real problem is my playstyle doesn't work for this game). And despite my thoughts on the game, Charriii's video was one of his worst. And here's a few things I have to say about your video, and I'm once again not defending Charriii. 4:31: How did he not understand that? 5:06: That was a very smart explanation. I didn't even think of that. 6:00: Normally, I wouldn't have a problem with nitpicking in EWWs because they are EVERYTHING Wrong With videos, but Charriii gives so little sins that he has no excuse. 6:25: Honestly, I found this boss funny. It's one of those bosses in this game that gets the "Not D Tier" award (and like I said, the problem could just be my playstyle). 11:19: I still find controlling all 4 Bros annoying, but that's on me because I played the game in 10 or so play sessions that were months apart. 12:33: And Charriii continues to miss the obvious. 14:39: That was hilarious. 15:10: I'm probably the only one here that believes that Charriii can suspend his disbelief, and even then Charriii makes a terrible case for himself. 20:18: Even with all the problems I have with this game's bosses, I'm annoyed with Charriii ranting about one of the 2 bosses I like, and clearly showing that he isn't using Bros Items (which isn't my playstyle, mine is spamming Bros Items). 22:05: Charriii sinned himself. 22:32: It doesn't feel like Charriii was lying about anything with the bosses. He was just failing to use Bros Items all the time somehow. 25:07: I've never thought of that scene that way. I always thought Luigi was being tested. 26:29: Or he could revive Mario! Also, Charriii is ranting about the other boss I like. 31:45: This is insane. Charriii admits to not using Bros Items and this is another fight that gets the "Not D Tier" award and he hates this fight more than everything before? 33:24: I figured out why I hate Elder Princess Shroob so much! I WAS LEVEL 20! And that happened because I didn't fight enemies for half the game. Also, less sins than when Charriii sinned Fawful's speech patterns? 35:31: Even as someone that hates this fight, I agree with you on this. It was my fault that I hated the fight as much as I did because I was Level 20, and even if it was the game's fault, I wouldn't sin it because even though I despise this fight, a lot of people love it. Also, there's the 100 sins I was hoping for. And a closing remark, I'm still annoyed that they barely talked about Shrowser because Shrowser has the biggest story problems of any boss in the series. And can I just continue coming up with sins for the M&L videos?
You want to know what's even worse than the whole thing I ranted about? Charriii still thinks he's right on this. I'm serious. In a recent livestream, he admitted to not using Bros. Attacks and having a miserable time because of it but still tries to justify it! All of his thoughts on Partners in Time are based on that one crappy playthrough, and he acknowledges that it was crappy but doesn't bother to play it again a different way. The livestream was unlisted btw. Here's the link to it and the timestamp for when he confesses: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H-u_K1T7etg.html 43:30 Also, by all means, lay on the Bowser's Inside Story sins.
@@tonysonic456 Thanks for giving me the livestream. And yup, it's ridiculous. 10 minutes isn't that long compared to how long it took Charriii to beat these bosses at Level 23, which was embarrassingly higher than the Level I fought these bosses at, but I don't blame the game for that. I admit that Level 20 was a result of me skipping the encounters in the second half. Maybe I'll play Partners in Time again someday, but I don't think it's battle system is as fun as the other games. And as always, I'll get the BiS sins soon. This will be fun.
@@tonysonic456 Here are the sins. Sin #0: Charriii confirms that he writes the whole script. I'm with Logan, it should start at minus 1! Sin #1: Like you said, Luigi getting dunked on is a running gag in the series. Plus, the events of Partners in Time happened only in the past while everyone was Shroobified so no one would know what happened. Sin #2: Did you notice that Bowser began breathing fire when Bowser would start seeing Mario? Sin #4: Luigi was farther away from Bowser. Sin #8: Personality. Sin #9: The bug would also shrink, and even if it didn't Starlow doesn't know how tiny they are. Sin #11: "Charriii answers himself" cliche. Sin #12: How did we find out about enzymes in the real world? Sin #13: He'll fight you, obviously. Sin #14: Mario logic. Sin #16: Fawful's a genius. Sin #17: Mario logic. Also, we don't how adrenaline works with Koopas. Sin #18: It's not that far. Sin #20: "Charriii makes a pop culture reference that isn't a sin of the game" cliche. Sin #22: Considering Bowser losing weight set the Bob-Ombs on fire, Fawful was planning on sending Bowser somewhere in the ocean. Sin #23: Mario logic. Sin #25: Bowser sucked up the pipes, which is why they lead out of Bowser. Sin #26: Of course. The underground part is hiding a dangerous weapon that could destroy the world while the threats to Peach's Castle faces can be reversed easily. Sin #28: "Charriii makes a pop culture reference that isn't a sin of the game" cliche. Sin #29: Starlow might not be able to carry them long enough to pass through the barriers, and if they get stuck in between two barriers it's game over. Sin #30: Ah yes, a pipe in Toad Town. How convenient. Sin #32: Are you sure Starlow has an infinite supply of heals? Sin #34: We have no idea what Mario said. Sin #35: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Also, Charriii sinned himself when Logan said "Is this a diss on Pokemon or Mario & Luigi?" Sin #36: What's the sin? Sin #37: Mario logic. Sin #38: Doing a job is a sin now. Sin #43: It's a giant fish tank. Sin #45: Ah yes a 1000 pound plumber totally wouldn't cause an earthquake. Sin #46: Chakron can teleport others so it makes sense that he can teleport himself. Sin #47: You're really reaching for complaints, aren't you. Sin #49: Charriii wants the world to end. Sin #51: "Charriii answers himself" cliche. Sin #52: Bowser can survive lava, so putting him in Fawful's other castle makes sense. Sin #54: Hammerspace! Sin #56: Mario logic. Also, he could do that in Galaxy. Sin #57: Bowser asked. Also, the "Elite Trio" could have said something. Sin #59: "Charriiii makes a pop culture reference that isn't a sin of the game" cliche. Sin #60: It's Fawful. Are you expecting it to make sense? Sin #62: Again, evil genius. Sin #66: That's the same sin from Bowser's Minions! Also, ACTUALLY SIN FIRE EMBLEM YOU COWARD! Sin #67: "Charriiii makes a pop culture reference that isn't a sin of the game" cliche. Sin #69: Other people can say "Oh yeah!" Sin #74: This fight isn't that hated by Bowser Jr's Journey standards. But this time it is for story purposes so I don't know what to do. Sin #80: Nitpicking. Sin #81: You said that Starlow contributes by communicating with Bowser! Sin #84: I think that's the point.
Yeah, and honestly, why this much over Elder Princess Shroob? This is what you'd usually expect over Dark Bowser and Dark Star Core Fawful. And oh, boy, Tony would probably literally pass out with Charriii didn't listen to Fawful's Minion and sinned that fight, so, thank goodness that didn't happen.
@@susiehaltmann3342 That I can agree on, but still, if you take your time and make sure your properly leveled up, none of the fights get outrageously difficult.
@@tonysonic456 like an issue is that they expect you to grind and go back to previous areas (like did anyone actually backtrack to previous areas other then for beans?)
@@tonysonic456 Like atleast with the other games even Paper Jam there's a reason to get stronger and grind and there are easy ways to do it... but here theres really no reason to go back
That should be a sin in itself, in all honesty. Like, I get it, never using bros attacks in a normal fight is one thing, even I can understand that, but in Boss fights where the main bad guy has a f*** ton of HP and it's basically a giant "use bros attacks on me" sign is just BEGGING to make the boss to be hard
Because he wanted to look like he was justified in his points when in reality he was lying to his audience. My channel may be small right now, but I'll get 1k subs eventually.
@@tonysonic456 35:36 I honestly like the Bros(all of them) jumping at Elder Princess Shroob at slow motion.(with the Copy Flower) At one day, i will try to beat this game a 2nd time.(not intended) The 1st time i beat it, the DS Emulator i used, i had to watch FREAKING ads to Load State. Then i tried an overall better Emulator. But when Stuffwell opens up in Holi Joli Village, the Emulator closes itself and i get softlocked. So, i have to find an even better Emulator to play this thing.(😥)
@@rafaelpereiragomes1735 What, you don't have a 3DS or DS? Or is it that you don't have a copy of the game and don't want to buy one online? Because a physical copy isn't that expensive.
@@tonysonic456 No, i don't have a real DS handheld. I'm poor. I play all of the Mario games that i'm able to, on Emulators on my tablet and cell phone. Citra, Dolphin, and Cemu are not avaliable on either of those. So, yeah. That's why i didn't play DT and PJ, let alone the remakes of SSS and BIS.
You have to wonder if charriii sins fights for genuinely being harder than they should be, or if he just sucks at the game. In this instance, it's definitely the latter
This is such an underrated game, I wish it got a remake instead of Bowser's Inside Story cuz that one honestly didn't need a remake. But Partners In Time certainly did. Also I agree, I honestly don't like the Elder Princess Shroob segment. Cuz while a bit difficult, it's really not that hard if you got a handle on how to beat her.
@@tonysonic456 thats alot of work cant believe you put these vids out so fast when they are so good and detailed and extremely long. Most content creators could probably barely hanle this kinda of content once a month but you manage to do like one every week or two very impressive! (no pressure to makes these vids so fast btw if u ever wanna take a break i dont think anyone would complain as we know the effort that goes into these videos)
@@cCheesie Thank you for the compliments. I have a LOT of time on my hands currently, and no worries about me feeling burnt out or anything. I love doing these videos, and if I ever get tired, I'll be sure to rest. Hope you enjoy the show.
I always thought (and i still think) this videos and other like this are made for fun . Like there is some thruth to their words, but most of the time it just jokes made for entertainment. I just dont take these seriosly. No offense of corse
I too called him out for not using bros items on bosses. I followed a strategy similar to yours. Save all the bros items for bosses. Also, the leetspeak was not "something we put behind us." Partners in Time came out in 2005, so leetspeak would still have been mainstream by then
So he's basically not allowed to play the game however he wants to? Apparently there's a right and wrong way to play a game? Wow. That's pretty shitty to trash on a person's gaming play all because you don't like it. You do realize not everyone has the same skill level or plays the same fucking way? I don't think listening to tony is a good idea since he's pretty absent minded and doesn't give a shit about other peoples' opinions that aren't his own. Hell, he becomes downright whiny for the dumbest of reasons. "You didn't play the game my way, so fuck you!" That's what this video boils down to.
One more thing, you want to know why tony isn't credible within arguments, is because he misinterpreted what charriii said in his kingdom hearts re mind video. Charriii said he sinned boss fights if people thought they were hard fights, not bad. "Fuck this fight" is for when the boss is difficult, and charriii isn't the only one struggling with it. This is something that tony because... well, either he need a new prescription of glasses, an idiot, or he lies to twist context to paint charriii on the wrong. So basically, what that means is that I'm pretty people who have agreed with charriiis points, most likely fought some of these bosses WITH the bros items. Shocker, huh? Does tony even think that people who used bros items also agree with charriii? No. Does he even care that most of the video is just him sinning boss fights that charriii and many others think that are hard, bros items or not? No. Basically, just like all of his other videos, he sinned things people agree with, and mindlessly put out low-effort garbage that people flocked to because they think tony was some messiah fir calling out charriii5, even he's not the first person to do this, meaning he's not fucking special.
@@earlrice8095well he sounds like a experienced player when he says those counter-arguments so basically he is just saying get good but actually explaining how exactly to get good.
Im sorry but Lakitu travel sounds extremely dangerous like are there lawsuits in the mushroom kingdom? What if someone accidently lets go and/or loses their grip cause I'd think I'd file for a lawsuit
Well, they're clearly sitting down on something while holding onto the rope, and given that this is a business, it's clear that they've proven themselves to be reliable. Also, please don't leave like a dozen comments on the same video. It gets annoying after a while.
Bruh charriii plays like young chuggaaconroy and me saying this makes me a hypocrite because I regrettably had low level like charrii I have ten sins now sinse you gave him ten forgive me edit: I farmed for exp in the star shrine and left with all my bros level 24 no wonder I lost when I got to phase 2 of elder princess shroob but at least I used bro attacks Edit2: i got to 26 and now slayed the elder princess shroob do i still have 10 sins or am i still too low
When I played this game, I made sure to clear every single room of enemies. Because of it, I had a decent time handling the bosses. By no means was it easy, but not Hollow Knight levels of difficult.
@@tonysonic456 oh...ok... well I only recently watched your videos and subscribed and I already like them... like... at some points you made me laugh so hard!
He doesn’t like that fight It’s his opinion Whether or not it’s an unpopular one makes no difference Unpopular opinions are allowed to exist Putting his difficulties with it aside why should he be forced to not sin it if a bunch of people like it? I really don’t like Kingdom Hearts 2, which is the most popular game in that series period, in fact I kind of hate KH2 but should I be demonized for it? You also got…. INCREDIBLY angry when he sinned that fight, way more then was probably warranted I’m not even that mad, but that part of the video just perplexed me more then anything
Here’s the thing. He doesn’t present it as an opinion. He presents it like it’s fact, and I even stated that I would be okay with it if his reasoning was sound and this wasn’t an EWW. He has said several times that he prefers to be objective when it comes to tackling gameplay. I even showed him admitting that in his KH 3 Remind video.
@@tonysonic456 Ok, I would see your point, but let’s check the consistency of your “Sinning THIS [blank]” thing. What about in Sonic Lost World video, where you sinned him for sinning that one Eggman scene? Now, putting however popular it may be aside, I don’t recall him saying anything bad about that scene (in that sin in particular). In fact, that whole sin was him complimenting Eggman’s strength displayed in that scene. So er…. What’s the logic there?
@@tonysonic456 So you admit you basically sinned him for no reason in the latter? Why am I not surprised...? Guess that's just one more thing to use as evidence. Also, you do realize that "f*CK this fight" is a part of the eww format, correct (at least, in the gaming sins wise)? That and again, a simple question would've helped your point but since you're unwillingness to do even that, it comes off as whinnying for the sake of it and before you get onto me, I was asked to join this conversation so I don't wanna hear any complaints. You can even ask SK himself
@@tonysonic456 Also, as several people in my Discord pointed out to me, that only applies to some of the games ( security breach, KH and now Cuphead) and that's it. You're using this logic to every game witch is just backwards. So let me ask you this: Do you think Baldi's Basic is a review? Do you think Hotel Mario is a review? Do you think Zelda CDI games are reviews? Do you think DDLC is a review? Because if your answer is anything but no, you're either insanely delusional, or just plain arrogant and idk which is worse? Id forgive this if you weren't so unapologetically arrogant and twisting context in every video you make (eww wise). But since you are, anything you say is automatically dismissed as opinion until further notice
His point was that the only HP block shouldn’t be in Peach’s Castle, but that wasn’t the only HP block. Even though he said, “Don’t quote me on this”, he still sounded confident that he was right.
These games are not hard charriii I have to question his gaming skills I had trouble with elder princess shroob my first time but after dying the first time I beat her my second try as Sunnyside and the star hill boss wasn't even hard I beaten them my fucking try