Divide & Conquer (V4.5): Faction Overview - Dorwinion 

If you are interested in some V5 Dorwinion action, then do check out Sir Augimund's new Let's Play: bit.ly/2zL62A0

"They are people, after all, but they are just not very good people" -Arachîr Galudirithon, 2020

Who would win: The Darklord of Mordor or some grape lads sneakin' through the backdoor?

Galu did not mention this, but it's worth knowing that you get visual upgrades for all of your units, except for the Vineyard units I believe, if you side with the Elves. The Thorn units, the Dorwinion Infantry, and the High Paladins will be armored in tasteful golden chainmail and plate armour with purple liveries. They also get elven weapons, even the Thorn Crossbowmen and Patroller units with elven crossbows! The Avari Elves, of course, do get visual upgrades into golden plate armour as well, but they don't get helmets...? Do the Avari have no sense of self-preservation? Who knows. I think the Avari Shadows don't get golden armor, I'm not sure. The Human path is limited in visual upgrades to the units you unlock, and even then only a small portion of them. I believe *only* the Regent units get upgraded into Byzantine-looking armor, and that's it. Though that does not take away from them looking fantastic; the golden-purple armies of Elves and Northmen are much more appealing to me.

AG: Unfortunate, Dorwinion is the first Nation in these Videos that has to many units for a single army Me: *Looks at the Norther Dunedain* You sure about that?

You have such a lovely voice and way to talk. Its always such a blast just to listen to your vids. If you would do audiobooks I would listen to every single one of them :)

Appreciate the link mate! Looking forward to showing off all the new updates to Dorwinion for the community! I honestly think the script being tied to Mornedhel is such a big improvement for these elf boys

Clever pun. But, you’re right, it did lose something when explained. With such things, lest is more....

I think Dunland deserves something new and interesting in future versions. When compared to Enedwaith, they are simply a very undesirable faction.

Oooooh that's why my campaign was going so well. See I thought "Well, those Rhun blokes might be trouble, better get them on side so I can focus on expansion for the time being" And then our relations just kept improving and we never became enemies.

I love Crossbowmen and Any unit that is effective against armor, great for anti general or anti heavily armoured unit. Crossbows even do crazy damage against Mumakil, Trolls and Great Beats which are heavily armored

20:57 "..they are people after all, but they're not good people." So what are they, criminals? Free Peoples trash? ;o) Also, loved the crossbow ranting. Gave me a good chuckle.

I find the dorwinion roster to be among the best out there: you get all the fodder and militia you want AND the power of elves. I never had issues keeping my armies replenished, which is a constant issue with pure elven factions. Overall, EXTREMELY versatile roster

Cheeky Pirates of the Caribbean reference there, Galu.

suggestion. make available humen and elven units at the same time with, whatever you chose(let say humen) elven units will be available in only 1 settlement with long replenishment, like 20 turns after boost's (if there are any in v5). It will make truly Hybrid Nation

As a person who absolutely loves the mounted crossbowmen, I always feel bad for them when Arachir lambasts them so mercilessly in the unit description. They are beautiful boys just trying their best xD

Your videos always make me happy Galu! I don’t really play DAC anymore as I don’t have time for it but I still watch your videos because they’re so pleasant. Thank you

They seem to be turtle: the faction. Garrison those bridges, send your best pot dealer out to the Shire, build as much as possible and break the enemy upon your bridge crossings

Nurwe also has a custom bodyguard. You forgot to mention it, but it’s Moriquendi Sentinals I believe. Also, they can train farmhand pikemen as another trash infantry unit

Love your videos, so damn calming. Hope you are doing well whatever you are doing these days :)

Athelhere is really a good general. Only thing is that you need a boat to get him off the island. So you wait basically for 20 turns until he becomes useful

Only found out about arachir recently, it's good stuff. Exciting overviews

Hello friend. Yesterday, you told us about giving the Nazgul a themed bodyguard, to reflect their origin, ex. the Haradrim Ringwraiths having Haradrim bodyguard, the Khandish one a Khandish unit etc. I find it quite good, as it recalls the Shadow Knights of Khamul. Yes, I am very fond of it. The Numenoreans can keep their Dark Numenoream units, but it would be cool to see other units with the Nazgul, as it would be a great political weapon for Sauron to show that all humans are under his reign and authority. But I would choose only the best unit, as the Nazgul would not intervene with anything less than the most capable and better equiped. I think they will be really cool in silver and black, like Khamul's own bodyguard. As for weapons, I am of the opinion to have either strike infantry units or sword-and-board units if you don't go for cavalry, as these weapons fit better with the whole bodyguard issue (personal opinion, of course). Of course, I will welcome whatever the DaC team decides. But I will be happy if I read your reaction- as I barely have any response by you. PS: I find interesting the weapon choice of the Thorn Guard. This weapon is a swordstuff, a very powerful two-handed medieval weapon, which is, as everyone guesses, a halberd. Also, nice the choice of the greatswords to the strike infantry. Well done, it adds variety. I like it and I hope to keep them in v5.

Dorwinion are in my top 3 favourite factions to play as with the Woodland Realm and N.D. The Mornedhel (?) addition is welcome and interesting. I look forward to it's development!

Whoo! Been waiting a long time for Enedwaith

If I ever get drafted and end up on the battlefield, I'm going to wonder, "Am I in one of those trash units???"

Hey Galu, love the videos and the mod. Appreciate all the work that goes into DAC. I've enjoyed the faction overviews, I'm glad they're back. A lot has been made about some of the difficulty ratings, I like having them in the faction overviews. I think they're a useful tool in deciding what factions to play. It is my opinion the rating system could be improved by taking a survey of your beta testers. Average up the difficulty ratings they give and use those for the scores in your faction overviews. Obviously you can't personally play every faction, the beta testers are a tremendous resource in that respect. Their opinions could greatly improve the accuracy of the difficulty ratings.

I once had a D&D campaign with a pair of NPCs, twins, named Dor and Rho. One was always drinking, and the other liked horse-riding and hunting. It took my group like *six months* to figure out the reference.

I use the mounted crossbows in groups with supporting cav to chase down small enemy units. Once they have used all their bolts I retreat them off the battlefield. I found this to be very effective. Later I use them en-mass in a similar manner attackng main armies to wear them down / slow them down. Retraining or combining as is best suited.

Absolutely love this faction. A small suggestion I have is to merge the Dorwinion Armsmen and Avari Warriors. Both serve a similar purpose and so having them both is rather redundent as whichever side you chose you will get a similar unit. If the two were merged they would be a unit of mixed elves and humans like the Dorwinion Infantry which would be available to both factions which would stress the dual nature of Dorwinion. This would also free up a unit slot for potentially another human unit to make the human choice more attractive. The same could potentially be done to the Athala Rangers and Avari Shadows, but this is probably more difficult as they share the unit with Dale. Sorry if the post is annoying but this idea has been with me for days. Love the mod!

Lol In my Dorwinion campaign I’m currently getting dp’d by Rhûn and Dol Guldur... The Elves, Dale, and Dwarves are doing nothing to help!!!

Cool faction

Another faction which is really easy to perform regicide is the goblins. I have played two campaigns in the last two weeks and managed to do so twice. I wasn't even trying tbh haha

Now that you mention the Plague mechanic.. Would it be possible (and interesting) to use it as a feature? For example, when the Witch-King or Sauron returns, certain factions will be hit by the Plague. I don't know wether it's possible to rename te debuff. That'll give you more freedom then. It's just very unsettling to see the map slowly getting covered in disease. Maybe you could make some factions immune? Or make them receive a buff instead of a debuff. Lore-wise it's a stretch but there is some precedent; corruption of Mirkwood and Fangorn for example. Could be interesting to consider I think.

My guess is Enedwaith. They do not have many cavalry units, they have mostly brown armour and, most importantly, the chariots is a big give-away.

Dorwinion Armsmen and High Paladins would all be good for being mixed units I would think. Honestly with how close the Avari Warriors and the Armsmen are in function, you might replace the Warriors with something else. If I remember right you were saying the Armsmen would be for either choice in V5. If you were willing to add in another unit, perhaps a hybrid ranged unit? That way your trash and low tier is pure human, mid tier is hybrid and your elites being one direction or the other.

Is there a way to see all the ancillary id's for the mod?

are there any invasion events? im only just now getting reacquainted with the mod and im thinking, it would be cool if when playing as a good faction, if the ring is not destroyed in x amount of turns, several evil factions get a global upkeep reduction or free spawns or something. i hadn't played in a while but i remember finding winning rather inevitable as the high elves and gondor once you get the ball rolling. no matter how good you do, if you dont destroy the ring it should get incredibly hard late game.

never really understood the effect of a morale bonus. Does it give units an additional morale bonus like it is listed in the buildings?

Whens Version 5 coming out loved playing this game since the first version was out

Weirdly, I'm getting a vague Byzantine vibe from this faction. Nice

Playing guess the faction here: Rhun? Who better to pair up with Dorwinion. Oh, honestly when I saw the chariots I assumed it was definitely Rhun. Didn't know Enedwaith had one.

Does the armor upgrade of some units effects their look on the battlefield? Awesome video Arachir big CHAD

how can you recruit avari elves? I'm going for turn 60 and I only have the ones that you get at the beginning ... Im not speak english 😅

Yaya

You have to do a overview abouth other Elven Factions .... i World like Woodland Elves (Thranduil) i think they are underrated

Okay but WHY are Crossbows useless? Just cause they take too long to shoot? But their bolts still hit and kill and having missile attack of *7* so early is insane is it not? What about Blacklock Engineers and Hand of The Guard? Those units are super good aren’t they?

Does anyone know what exactly Campaign and Battle AI difficulty changes in Divide and Conquer?

Happy birthday Norway.

I dont know why people think elven choice much better, slow recruitment, worse economy, but 2 elite units, compared to a human choice where you get more units that are much more avaliable than elves, best cav in faction, ecejomy boost, and most important, cuz of faster replenishment you can swarm enemies. I just donr understand why is elven choice so heavily favoured, if 2 human players played 1v1 (one with human choice and one with elven), human choice would wipe elven easily.

When Khand?

When was this recorded? xD still very good tho!

Bit of a contradiction, ingame it says the elves are the side of peace and discord, humans the side of conquest and war. But the unique buildings reflect the oposite, elves get the military buildings and humans get the wine eco

I think the tripple boost for morewuendi units is bugget they give only 2 point of armour nd not 3 points of.armour

Is it just me or are there way more human troop? Presumably, if you picked the humans you’d have an advantage because you could choose to field units on a continuum of cheep to expensive while with the elves you would always have to use expensive units.

I can’t remember if you choose the elven choice do you still get “Avilyn? Is that right” as a general

Early boat plz 😁👍

I dont think that Innas Rim would actually defeat Paladins in 1v1, they dont get anti cav bonuses and they sec attack is probably around 7, compared with 12 of the Paladins. Maybe if they get charge in the back.

Cool very early.

It's kind of sad when random collections of fans from the internet have done more work to try to expand upon the foundation talking left than his own family. I don't mean consolidate and polish edit for publishing years or decades after his death. I mean actually do some work and expand their father's vision which he never stopped working on, and would have wanted to continue to grow and expand. Is this mod different from third age reforged? I'm completely out of the loop because I never reinstalled this amazing mod on my new rig and then got caught up in other games but I'm interested in some Lord of the rings Total War again. Why did the wineries not have more tiers? I remember at least in the version of third age that I used to play the map was relatively empty , It had all the major landmarks of course. But the land just seemed to be huge swaths of territory where it would take like two turns to cross or more before you actually reached another tiny settlement , the world just seemed really empty. Has that been addressed? I see that you are all working on creating more diversity of factions which is always a big plus in my book.

I just played myself so badly This was my first play through with this faction and I saw rune starts with a massive army right next to my border I decided to ally them and build up my economy and turtle a bit Thinking I am safe, I decide to go through rune with my 2 full stack armies, that push my economy to its limits, to attack mordor from the back and save Gondor. So 15 turns later I attack mordor but forget that rune would break their alliance with me. My homelands were empty, all my men were in mordor. Time to restart and not dance around rune. If anyone has any advice for rune, I would be most greatful. That full stack is very intimidating right off the bat.

I get the feeling that you have beef with Milan in the vanilla game.

Is it just me, or is Sant-Annuiiiiiiii a really funny name?🤪

Due to all the brown im guessing enedwaith