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DJI FPV 25 mW vs. 700 mW vs. Analog 

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The DJI digital HD FPV system works best at 700 mW max output power. But some regions are limited to 25 mW. So what kind of range can you expect from the DJI FPV system at 25 mW vs. 700 mW. And how does that compare to an analog transmitter?
Thanks to Taq for appearing in the video. His channel is: / @tq64to4
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@-Gruntled
@-Gruntled 4 года назад
DJI has set the bar so high, and just a few months back it sounded like this could only be done with magic! Technology sufficiently advanced...
@un-review
@un-review 2 года назад
ITs not DJI bar that is high, it is the rest of companies whose bar was below marian trench level. FPV was stuck in 1970 before them.
@FlavorOfTheMonthChannel
@FlavorOfTheMonthChannel Год назад
3 years later and this video is still as relevant as ever, thanks! Watching the comparison of both DJI 25mW/700mW vs Analog really puts into perspective how much clearer the DJI image quality is. Analog just isn't very clear at all, but it's what I've been using for 4+ years now. One of my BFFs has a DJI set up, and it's great that you've put in the contrast between DJI digital images vs analog, but I was also surprised that 25mW DJI could go as far as it does. I fly at 400-600mW on analog, and if I go behind any object at all, it pretty much cuts out completely. This video solidifies my opinion that I do need to make the switch to DJI or digital if I want that clear flying experience. It seems like the compression of the video data in real time, and the filtering on noise/channels that DJI provides is much better than Analog. I also live in a populated area, so the radio interference of 2.4 & 5.8 GHZ signals is redic, which is where that fine tuned filtering of data & compression really comes in to play with DJI. It just seems better (assuming the slight latency increase doesn't affect your flying style)
@mikaelbackstrom
@mikaelbackstrom 4 года назад
Yes. We all fly in 25mW here in Europe. Wink Wink, know what I mean.
@rcrdps8144
@rcrdps8144 4 года назад
And we all fly under 30dbm here in the US. Funny thing is, I don't think anyone realizes that limit. They only realize that they don't have a HAM license( which we don't need with the DJI btw).
@noname-wo9yy
@noname-wo9yy 4 года назад
Yes....we do, you see my done officer its actually really small and flying 40m way. It's quite slow that is why it's taking some time to get back
@travispratt6327
@travispratt6327 4 года назад
rcrdps I have been flying and driving rc for 15 years (although this is the firs year I’m getting into fpv) and I’ve never heard of a dbm limit so I think you’re right =)
@rcrdps8144
@rcrdps8144 4 года назад
@@travispratt6327 When I was reading stuff on the DJI, I think I saw the FCC symbol somewhere. So I looked for it on my goggles. It's on the bottom in very small letters and you have to bounce a light off of it to read it. I googled the ID, and skimmed the FCC testing procedure. In that, they cite the "code" that they are following, and there is a 30dbm limit for "mobile" stuff in the 5.8ghz range. DJI appears to have designed to be right up against that limit, and it's certified. So if you're in the US, and you run it stock at 700mw, it's as legal as a WiFi router from BestBuy. That confidence can be useful for certain environments. Unfortunately, the knowledge works against you too,....
@travispratt6327
@travispratt6327 4 года назад
rcrdps I briefly looked into it, i found conflicting information so I gave up... my understanding is the limit is inputting 30dbm to an antenna, which if you do calculations comes out to roughly 1000mw which is what everyone says is the limit for transmitting analogue signals anyways, and higher than any of my equipment.
@GautschiFilms
@GautschiFilms 4 года назад
I will never go back to analog after seeing fpv in HD. It's solid.
@justinc2633
@justinc2633 3 года назад
lol you were saying that almost a year ago i bet youre loving dji and how persistent they are with updates
@GautschiFilms
@GautschiFilms 3 года назад
Cashy 1 it just keeps getting better and better!
@mategolarits7053
@mategolarits7053 3 года назад
@@GautschiFilms So you ended up buying it?
@emillianozapatta9005
@emillianozapatta9005 4 года назад
Once again ... The visual experience with DJI FPV is amazing ...
@xyic0re714
@xyic0re714 4 года назад
Thanks for taking the time to put this together JB.
@DJRipGroove99
@DJRipGroove99 4 года назад
Subbed. I'm just looking to get started in FPV now that it's gone digital and I'm watching a lot of videos to answer some questions I have and every time I search for something you have a video about it! Thanks!
@harryhalfmoon
@harryhalfmoon 4 года назад
I really like that static-left-roll-reverse-view maneuver 0:18 . So simpel and looks so cool.
@MachuFrey
@MachuFrey 4 года назад
I’m a newer pilot and took the dive into the DJI system. I feel the quality has given me significantly more confidence trying stuff
@aruhtaz
@aruhtaz 4 года назад
same here. crashed 2 quads before my switch.
@mattjackson9460
@mattjackson9460 3 года назад
Question, did you go for the DJI controller or just the goggles?
@MachuFrey
@MachuFrey 3 года назад
@@mattjackson9460 went for the dji transmitter as well. the air units come with rx and tx. Saving space by using the transmitter
@jdm724
@jdm724 4 года назад
Really waited for this
@MotosurfskateFPV
@MotosurfskateFPV 4 года назад
Great test Joshua ... convincing in detail and fact ... thank you
@Ismir123Uebel
@Ismir123Uebel 3 года назад
Danke für die Dokumentation !
@Furadi
@Furadi 4 года назад
Good test! The performance indoors is mind blowing.
@saberrayed
@saberrayed 4 года назад
Please stop showing this kind of video co'z I might sell my kidney.
@Retset
@Retset 4 года назад
I was one of those asking. Thanks for the video reply!
@Hellmuthsilva
@Hellmuthsilva 4 года назад
Very cool, when are you coming out with the skyzone review?
@abdulr5320
@abdulr5320 3 года назад
I have leaned something today . Thanks 🙂
@jlarson42
@jlarson42 4 года назад
The dji system is very impressive. Especially for a version 1 release. If it had analog compatibility built in or a module bay I'd be all over it. Thanks for the demonstration Joshua. TAQ is a blast, love his videos. 👍💖🤓
@JingGuily
@JingGuily 4 года назад
Honestly, if having to put the module on the side of the strap vs inside the goggle is a dealbreaker for you then it sounds like you just dont really want the system.
@jlarson42
@jlarson42 4 года назад
@@JingGuily hang a ground station on the side of my head?
@Hellmuthsilva
@Hellmuthsilva 4 года назад
This is version 4, there have been 3 tries of digital from dji before this.
@JingGuily
@JingGuily 4 года назад
@@jlarson42 you can word it anyway you want you already have a freaking antenna field in your face why not add one more to the side. It balances it with the battery on the other side ;p
@jlarson42
@jlarson42 4 года назад
@@JingGuily ok you do it. I'll wait.
@pglass4
@pglass4 4 года назад
Amazing. So clear. ❤️❤️❤️❤️🎉
@funnelfpv9435
@funnelfpv9435 4 года назад
I have this HD system for 4 days now and I'm extremly satisfied. It's way better than analog, in terms of range and of course video quality.
@hansturpyn5455
@hansturpyn5455 4 года назад
Me too
@eparg1
@eparg1 4 года назад
I’m a month in. It’s fantastic. Not going back to analog, digital has won.
@UltrasoundJelly
@UltrasoundJelly 4 года назад
OK, I think I've watched all of your DJI FPV review videos. Really nice work. Question for you: I'm wanting to start out in FPV this autumn for fixed wing flying. I have the budget for the DJI system, and I have no FPV gear at all. Should I take the DJI plunge or start with an analog system?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
The DJI system is amazing. I think the biggest thing is whether you plan to fly with others or not. If you get it, you won't be able to view others' feed, and they won't be able to view yours.
@thinkaboutwhy
@thinkaboutwhy 4 года назад
I would want an osd, just a center mark would be helpful. Brand new and glad I hadn’t ponied up For hdo’s or anything yet... time is on my side. Keep practicing in the sim stashing cash and I think HD is in my future 😎
@ayougo
@ayougo 4 года назад
Josh, How do you like the DJI system overall? Is it worth using their controller over crossfire with regards to control latency?
@bruxxfpv1778
@bruxxfpv1778 4 года назад
Hey Bardwell!, your flights look more confident and better that ever over months ,sir! more guts in HD? :P quick question ; why 4:3 over 16:9? Any real minus to go 16:9? what I missed here? Thank you!
@scootroter4859
@scootroter4859 4 года назад
Really, it's all about 2 things for me... Get it down in size (air unit) so it can work with 3" and under drones. Also, down in price. That's it and I'm a BUYER! I CAN'T WAIT! PHENOMENAL IMAGE QUALITY! Thanks JB! 👍😁
@MeeKaaH
@MeeKaaH 4 года назад
lots of people have gotten the air unit in a 3inch build already. can't really go under but 3 inch is definetly doable
@Jdogg5343
@Jdogg5343 4 года назад
FlexRC put it in a 2.5 inch
@scootroter4859
@scootroter4859 4 года назад
@@Jdogg5343 Very Co0ol!
@rcrdps8144
@rcrdps8144 4 года назад
@@scootroter4859 I put it in a whoop. A bit heavy, but it works.
@EscobarTV45
@EscobarTV45 4 года назад
Photophinish3 I want that system bad.
@LiquidmediaIt
@LiquidmediaIt 3 года назад
Hi Joshua, thx for all your vids! Simple question for you: why these goggles transmit 700mW at 5 cm from our heads?
@rccosplay3249
@rccosplay3249 4 года назад
Will it work with the iNav software? I've got the furious F35 Flight Controller. I'd like to have the telemetry OSD.
@AhmadFPV
@AhmadFPV 2 года назад
Hey, thanks for the review If you use DJI controller vs tango 2 crossfire. Does it make difference in range?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 года назад
Crossfire has longer range. But DJI controller has as much range as DJI goggles, and some would argue that's all you need.
@hetlarfje
@hetlarfje 4 года назад
Well, i just want to know wich mini camera is the best choice for my new apex frame. And build it while waiting on the fatshark hd products.
@gregvittore5004
@gregvittore5004 4 года назад
Nice one! Thanks 👌
@michaelb5396
@michaelb5396 4 года назад
Thanks for the videos bro! Can you fly dji system with analog pilots near by? Ty.
@mort7987
@mort7987 3 года назад
Last time I tried that, the analog got completely over-signaled (200mw analog system and 1200mw dji system)
@Lracnolip
@Lracnolip 4 года назад
I am so excited to fly hd fpv, that's all l care about now.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 4 года назад
Wow... Pretty impressive, Joshua! 😮 Great testing and flying!!!
@vernelv
@vernelv 2 года назад
thank you
@pdtech4524
@pdtech4524 4 года назад
Substantial difference! 😯👍😎
@Georgewrigley
@Georgewrigley 4 года назад
Oh yes. Great system. What a game changer. One day. ✈️😊👍
@PiDsPagePrototypes
@PiDsPagePrototypes 4 года назад
25 looks like it's be perfectly usable in a race environment, and 700 looks like it's be great for long range stuff with the right antenna combo.
@quincypurcell5222
@quincypurcell5222 4 года назад
Yeees my man taq fpv
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 4 года назад
im in UK and have eagerly been waiting for a test like this. id really like this. But as often the case cost puts it out of reach. however that said ive aslo just purchased some skyzones and hope that one day somebody will design sommat for my hdi socket.
@miklosko3355
@miklosko3355 4 года назад
TBD fusion module and multipath testing video coming up? 😉. Thanks for the hint Joshua. Really looking forward to it. My fusion module was delivered just yesterday. Didn't have time to install it yet but will do in few hours. Super excited. Thank you! 👍
@avengerfpv6774
@avengerfpv6774 4 года назад
The fusion was well worth the 2 week wait...it'll be interesting to see how Joshua bardwell rates it
@danlatu209
@danlatu209 4 года назад
Why would Josh do anything nice for TBS with the way he was treated at IO.
@miklosko3355
@miklosko3355 4 года назад
@@danlatu209 That's a good point...
@avengerfpv6774
@avengerfpv6774 4 года назад
@@danlatu209 because impartiality? Bardwell is one of the few reviewers I trust to give an honest opinion. Unlike some others who sing the praises if any old shite...
@danlatu209
@danlatu209 4 года назад
​@@avengerfpv6774 Bardwell is as fair as they come. It's too bad companies are taking things personal. Lets just make the sport/hobby better moving forward.
@lostfound8112
@lostfound8112 4 года назад
i postponed getting dji hd to get a mavic mini....hd is my next purchase.....its amazing
@jb-fpv7384
@jb-fpv7384 4 года назад
JUST AWSOME
@jorgeromero4680
@jorgeromero4680 4 года назад
I'll wait some time before buying this thing because of ...budget and because i would like to see what the competition will come up, however it's impressive.
@Ali-rb4bo
@Ali-rb4bo Год назад
hows the competition lol
@jorgeromero4680
@jorgeromero4680 Год назад
@@Ali-rb4bo do you understand that this comment was two years in the past?
@Ali-rb4bo
@Ali-rb4bo Год назад
@@jorgeromero4680 yes, the competition still dosen't really compare...
@djbis
@djbis 4 года назад
how will this compare to TBS Unify 25 and 800mw? Would love to hear your opinion.
@nicholasrada9082
@nicholasrada9082 3 года назад
Love the DJI FPV goggles until yesterday. My pair of goggles is getting black screens for video, so no backlight in goggles. Worked amazingly well for 29 days. Any ideas from anyone?
@SeeFPv-qm6ie
@SeeFPv-qm6ie 3 года назад
hello i just bought the dji goggles should i fly them with focus mode on or off i'm not sure what to do
@daveopie1234
@daveopie1234 4 года назад
Considering getting a DJI HD system, maybe in the spring. Hopefully a v2 comes out that takes an analog module. Also, would like to see what Fatshark comes up with for HD before I decide. One question - how hot did the air unit get when using 700mw?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
It gets very hot. But if you're flying it's okay. It definitely needs airflow.
@rklauco
@rklauco 4 года назад
Well, even though I am from Europe, I'll now have a problem: budget ;)
@BlenderRookie
@BlenderRookie 4 года назад
I have the same budget problem. I think over the next few years there will be several other similar quality systems available for less.
@RiccardoMartinelli_Rick
@RiccardoMartinelli_Rick 4 года назад
Blender Rookie oooh yes please :)
@MEZENchannel
@MEZENchannel 3 года назад
Im from russia and we are working for 200-300$ per month, all own life. and i have this googles and fpv drone. + radiomaster TX16S + tbs crossfire system. be simple. in europe solary in x10 times more than in russia.
@rklauco
@rklauco 3 года назад
@@MEZENchannel Happy for you that you can afford it.
@goku445
@goku445 3 года назад
@@MEZENchannel I'll wait for an alternative. I don't like throwing hundreds of bucks to a closed source company.
@rccosplay3249
@rccosplay3249 4 года назад
Can the DJI FPV air unit be used for airplane/Fixed wing operations?? It does have 8 channels.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
You would need an SBUS to PWM converter.
@snloy3221
@snloy3221 11 месяцев назад
Can someone please tell me what camera, goggles he was using. I only have a drone for now and I want to use the same setup he was using so I get this amazing video quality.
@starsstripesjacket
@starsstripesjacket 4 года назад
Please test the dji system with different antenna's, i want to know if the claims of increased range are legit or just marketting bs
@bakkiepleur_FPV
@bakkiepleur_FPV 4 года назад
How about the OSD on the dji system?
@species0113
@species0113 4 года назад
I wish you would have did one more pass in 25mw focus mode to see the difference in range as well. More then likely anyone needing the extra range would probably be in focus mode.
@TheMadmacs
@TheMadmacs 4 года назад
looks like i might give up box goggles for a pair of these, ps. i saw a soft target with micro eagle much easier than they showed up on hd footage.... so, that slightly cartoony over saturated reality has its good points
@CoreyFPV
@CoreyFPV 4 года назад
That was impressive. Hardly any breakup. Was watching the edges and only in the last quarter of the vid did I notice and breakup. Still too expensive to justify though. The full package on a kwad from scratch is still like buying a Mavic Pro 2
@SueMyChin
@SueMyChin 4 года назад
This has probably been answered before but could I buy a "Dock-king" with a rapid-fire and fly analogue with these too via video input?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
Yes you could do that.
@lgnd9990
@lgnd9990 Год назад
1:32 “are you serious right neow”🥴 I can’t unhear it
@alessandrocannarile964
@alessandrocannarile964 4 года назад
@Joshua Bardwell Hi J i need help and i think you are the only one that can solve my problem, im having issues with DJI fpv digital controller please help.i already refunded 1 and now i got another 1 with the same problem. the problem is related to endpoint of sticks. in the one i refunded i was having the problem when i full press right roll the software detect full left and now i have on pitch. is someonelse having that issue on gimbal? i tried my friend's controller and is having that exact issue on throttle.when he go on full throttle and reach the endpoint the software detect 0 throttle…is possible to set a dead zone in the end point area?
@wcorp2010
@wcorp2010 4 года назад
Joshua, hi! Tell me how convenient it is to use this system with glasses? I have myopia "-3.5" Fatshark glasses - I use corrective lenses. And here, how? I see that you wear a helmet right on the glasses. It's comfortable? So can you fly for a long time?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
It hasn't been an issue so far.
@wcorp2010
@wcorp2010 4 года назад
@@JoshuaBardwell The answer is beautiful. but I don’t understand))). Can I use this equipment if I have poor eyesight?
@raydenkundera857
@raydenkundera857 4 года назад
Hi guys, l think this is the beginning of a new generation of the FPV. In 2-3 years will be cheaper enough for everyone. All the best to All
@MadManFPV
@MadManFPV 4 года назад
BIG QUESTION: Are you using the DJI TX or a Taranis for control? Can you use a Taranis for control and (if possible) which would you "choose" to use?
@pyroman590
@pyroman590 4 года назад
Yes you can use a Taranis or any other radio and receiver.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
I'm using Taranis with Crossfire.
@MorningView
@MorningView 4 года назад
Are you using dji radio for control link? Any disadvantages to getting this without the radio? I like my R9 receivers, don't wanna change.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
I'm using crossfire for radio control.
@dronescanhelp
@dronescanhelp 4 года назад
Mr Bardwell.....I have a very important question to ask about this DJI setup.....How does it work at night? As compared to my Ratel? I think that is perfect for your next video.....please let us know. Thanks Damian G.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
This video is shot at twilight. The sun is below the horizon but the sky still has some light in it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2OVgPyv7Wvw.html
@rccandy
@rccandy 4 года назад
Was this shot using crossfire for the RC link?
@killjoy2467
@killjoy2467 3 года назад
I’m getting into fpv. How do I know when your out of battery or read how to monitor battery percentage, when it’s right time to stop and not damage lipos. Or does the drone just feel slower when it’s low?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 года назад
Use the on screen display to monitor battery voltage.
@georgitushev
@georgitushev 4 года назад
Josh! You just made me switch to digital 😈
@johncitizen3361
@johncitizen3361 4 года назад
It’s interesting but something I thought might be going on was mentioned, seeing a GoPro like view may look fantastic but might actually hinder how well you can fly due to na overload of information. Our analogue FPV “simplifies” things for us, maybe it’s something you can get used to though.
@boarattackboar
@boarattackboar 4 года назад
I was taking with my optometrist about fatigue caused by impaired vision. She was saying if you dont wear glasses when you should your brain has to do a lot more to process and make sense of what you are seeing, which makes you tired quicker. This seems consistent with what ive experienced. Im sure this would also apply to looking at low res analog video feeds, if your brain is having to work harder simply interpreting the image, you probably have less mental capacity for other things. Would make an interesting experiment...
@pkvillager
@pkvillager 4 года назад
Nice test. Just like the guys said there is almost too much information in the goggles. I have well over 50 packs on it and still get distracted by how pretty the sky is or how far I can see.
@DOJIELDIENVE
@DOJIELDIENVE 4 года назад
Jason Bartlett one of the features i like best is the screen size settings. for fast focused flights i choose 70-80% screen size. for slower explorative flights i go 100% screen and maybe wide.
@invertedproductions7577
@invertedproductions7577 4 года назад
Don't take this the wrong way but up until now i didn't think you could fly so well but now I realise its just because you perhaps couldn't see the best. Damn those goggles have improved your flying greatly, keep it up!
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
Maybe you should check the freestyle video I posted Monday.
@ayougo
@ayougo 4 года назад
Joshua Bardwell Lets see some inverted yaw spins and manny flips. You got this.
@michaelcrawford4940
@michaelcrawford4940 4 года назад
Ok ok, we all want it now!
@PhillGraaf
@PhillGraaf Год назад
how do I know what my goggles output? (25 or 700?)
@jremedic1
@jremedic1 4 года назад
For someone just getting to upgrade from my Tinyhawk starter kit should I go analog or digital?
@TheChamrd
@TheChamrd 4 года назад
So you already have analog googles, next you should buy better transmitter ... not thinking about digital (maybe when you have a lot of money then yes)
@jremedic1
@jremedic1 4 года назад
@@TheChamrd I am thinking about the Taranis q X7 thoughts?
@TheChamrd
@TheChamrd 4 года назад
@@jremedic1 qx7 best for start and you can upgrade gimbal when needed . Also can add module to almost all recievers. Cost is reasonable, perfect product.
@auckwads8169
@auckwads8169 3 года назад
Wpukd be great to sharkbyte here see how it performs
@MojoPapiFPV
@MojoPapiFPV 4 года назад
Kinda need to see this in focus mode. Also if there's a 200mw option that would be worth doing as well since thats what most of us fly most of the time.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
There isn't any option other than 25 or 700.
@hansturpyn5455
@hansturpyn5455 4 года назад
Ill hope future firmware will give us a 100mW mode. But i can say the range on 25mw is 10-20% better than analog on 25mW
@Tetra84
@Tetra84 4 года назад
Can you use these DJI goggles with analog signals? Meaning can they be used with micro quads or would you still need a pair of analog goggles for those? I know the quads wouldn’t be able to hold the DJI hardware, but could these goggles show analog video?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
The DJI goggles do not have an analog receiver built in. They accept an AV input from a ground station though.
@jamiehill9578
@jamiehill9578 3 года назад
mine is not letting me not change the power settings how can i change this
@gravis00
@gravis00 4 года назад
Can you change the power while it's out flying? Does that require a restart?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
You xan only change the power in the goggle menu which.... I guess it could be done while flying if you had a 3rd hand.
@gravis00
@gravis00 4 года назад
@@JoshuaBardwell lol, well I suppose I would land it for a moment.
@philipclassens2168
@philipclassens2168 4 года назад
Could you do a 6s dji build video, start to finish?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
It's in editing now.
@philipclassens2168
@philipclassens2168 4 года назад
@@JoshuaBardwell awesome!! Can't wait. Thanks for replying. Hope I can use this for my first build! Keep up the great work.
@mikeefpv
@mikeefpv 4 года назад
dude, your freestyle is much better!
@PerryEarl
@PerryEarl 3 года назад
That's right by the Naked River Brewing Company, in Chattanooga, right? I was just there a few months ago.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 3 года назад
Correct.
@PerryEarl
@PerryEarl 3 года назад
@@JoshuaBardwell Man, I wish I could've flown with you guys while I was there. I did get to whoop the Brewery, though. The manager was really into the idea of hosting Tiny Whoop events. I told some folks in a Chattanooga FPV discord, so that maybe they can set something up.
@lazyfpv7005
@lazyfpv7005 4 года назад
I want to see that antenna upgrade video.
@marcolangfrank
@marcolangfrank 4 года назад
Hi Joshua, GOOGLES RE can connect to DJI HD FPV sistem?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
No they cannot.
@marcolangfrank
@marcolangfrank 4 года назад
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanke you
@MaikeruX88
@MaikeruX88 3 года назад
I googled 25 VS 700mW for European union rules but I can't find any information about it. I know it's late and the video is kinda old now. Do you know why we can't fly 700mW?
@MindOfBoomBoom
@MindOfBoomBoom 4 года назад
Actually looked MUCH better at 25mW than i expected, i wonder why others made it seem like it was unflyable at 25mw. i like that you flew with focus mode off, i really wanted to get a sense of signal degradation at distance. i expected 700mW to be fine, but 25mW held up some what decently. Does the DVR exactly match what you saw in the goggles? i wonder what is the BIT rates on DVR/Air Unit recordings, dont think i have heard any one discuss that. thanks for the follow up review, i did learn something today!! :P
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
DVR is pretty close to what you see in the goggles. I would have to side-by-side to be sure. But remember, DVR takes out the freeze-frame skips.
@MindOfBoomBoom
@MindOfBoomBoom 4 года назад
@@JoshuaBardwell thanks for the reply, good to know!!
@Furadi
@Furadi 4 года назад
I've flown 25mw out to 1/4 mile pretty easy on multiple occasions.
@hypurrfpv9483
@hypurrfpv9483 4 года назад
Do your glasses cause any issues? Is it comfortable with them on?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
Yes it's fine although I would prefer lens inserts.
@noname-wo9yy
@noname-wo9yy 4 года назад
I hope there will be a fatshark hd module in the next year or so.
@terrorbirbfpv4732
@terrorbirbfpv4732 4 года назад
what's up with the bumpy frame rate?
@ClaudioBOsorio
@ClaudioBOsorio 2 года назад
Joshua I know im 3 years late but I'm new to FVP and I really like when you go into specifics. Most other youtubers just throw around 25mW 700mW bla bla but don't even explain what they are talking about. Is it a goggle, a battery? what does it look like, where it is? what is the range difference... etc I think you explained some of that much better than others out there but I would suggest just lowering the learning curve a bit at the start of each video so that newcomers can know what is being addressed..
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 года назад
25 mW vs. 700 mW refers to the output power of the video transmitter on the quad. More power = more range and penetration. In general, 4x the power equals 2x the range in open space. So 25 x 4 = 100 x 4 = 400 mW would be two doublings of range, or 4x the range. 1600 mW would be another doubling of range after that, or 8x the range. So the difference between 25 mW and 700 mW is between about 4x and 8x the range.
@Aguswann
@Aguswann Месяц назад
It is possible that there is a firmware hack for the modules and force 700mw. I have a DJI FPV drone and I saw that there is a hack to the firmware that allows you to choose signal modes and unlock height limits. In my case I am from Argentina and I don't need to unlock it
@dangfpv2970
@dangfpv2970 4 года назад
Gotta zoom out the screen or it overloads the senses. No seriously, try it. It’s a fantastic feature of the goggles.
@fkfontaine
@fkfontaine 4 года назад
true. 70% is the sweet spot for me
@shadowrider3853
@shadowrider3853 4 года назад
Since I live in Indonesia, I have problem with budget. I still choose analog so far 😂. Anyway the digital system quality is solid.
@FPFPV
@FPFPV 4 года назад
Would love to see a proper range test in an open space! Is 4km actually achievable? Haven't found any video on YT so far.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
I think 4 km would be achievable only under really ideal conditions.
@Gibson99
@Gibson99 4 года назад
one of the first vids i saw on this dji system they did a range test. they flew it alongside a pickup truck down a straight flat road, while the people in the truck talked to the pilot via cell phone. major degredation around 2km and i think they called it at about 2.5km because it was getting too bad to fly and he actually hit the side of the truck.
@flo-ridafpv5713
@flo-ridafpv5713 4 года назад
It's there yesterday look up furadi
@Stev1451
@Stev1451 4 года назад
Its easy achievable with a fpv plane. I saw somebody who achieved 6.3km ~4 mi with stock antennas. I think you can get around 3-4km with a Quad. This System is so next level 👌🏼
@funnelfpv9435
@funnelfpv9435 4 года назад
There's a video of some asian guys on youtube achieved 11km with a 14dBi antenna.
@geoffreybarthelemy191
@geoffreybarthelemy191 4 года назад
Joshua, Need your help with Eachine Trashcan how can we get in contact
@RichardRaueiser
@RichardRaueiser 4 года назад
For me the only issue, is how the DJI video compression is degrading the dark areas, clumping the wood's ;-)
@muh1h1
@muh1h1 4 года назад
Well, if you don't want to use 700mW because it is illegal, you'd have to fly 25mW on analog aswell, as you can't legally transmit more with that either. My Problem with the digital systems is the price, way to frickin expensive for my budget...
@DoctorWhom
@DoctorWhom 4 года назад
I'd like to see someone sit down and make a reference table of what is allowed/not allowed in different countries. if there is one country where 700mW analog is allowed but DJI is 25mW, then his caveat holds. For Canada we get the full TX power for both, but less channels.
@EscobarTV45
@EscobarTV45 4 года назад
It’s only expensive if you already spent your money on fat shark hdo, crossfire, etc. like I did, however if you’re new to fpv have the money and want digital then this is the way to go. Too bad you can’t fly whoops without the analog equipment.
@flo-ridafpv5713
@flo-ridafpv5713 4 года назад
@@EscobarTV45 yea I did same but once they get betaflight osd workin I might jump, can't live without my rssi and home arrow w gps rigs
@undoubt1540
@undoubt1540 4 года назад
@@simon8904 Nah man it's easier than that.
@sirzebra
@sirzebra 4 года назад
@@undoubt1540 could you describe how, for a friend ?
@MindRiderFPV
@MindRiderFPV 4 года назад
Mind blown again.
@zdm5290
@zdm5290 4 года назад
I feel like you might freestyle to De La Soul - Drawn ft. Little Dragon
@paul37915
@paul37915 4 года назад
So the DJI is locked at 25mw for Europe or can it be changed to go higher ?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 года назад
Locked.
@paul37915
@paul37915 4 года назад
@@JoshuaBardwell with definitely no way of unlocking ?
@mcmenacefpv6353
@mcmenacefpv6353 4 года назад
I have been trying to avoid buying this setup but its getting tuff
@999wilf999
@999wilf999 4 года назад
Shame the goggle DVR doesn't seem to record the OSD, it would be helpful to see the latency information and so on. I assume they want the goggle DVR to be good enough to use in videos, but surely that's what the on board SD card is for?
@rcrdps8144
@rcrdps8144 4 года назад
Absolutely! Please write them. They do seem to read and respond, so maybe if enough of us request it, they'll do it. Also ask for fan control, and usb to HDMI.
@DoctorWhom
@DoctorWhom 4 года назад
Personally I'd prefer to have the OSD information embedded in the file, but not in the video stream, anyone who wants the OSD information could use a program to read the data and burn it in.
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