What's the best FPV system? Analog, DJI, Walksnail or HDZero? 

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Analog: price, size/ease of installing anywhere (easy to use long cables), easy avaliability (you can buy an analog camera and vtx any time anywhere)

One of the main benefits of HDZero besides low latency is it's low weight, smaller size and lower power consumption over other systems. It is the only real system to go to at this time for 1s Whoops. This is a huge area of the hobby and the racers seem to prefer the low latency of the HDZero system. The quality of picture is not DJI of course but try putting a DJI system in a whoop. As HDZero has gone open source it is going to continue to improve quickly. I think this is important to mention especially since we are entering Whoop season in the Northern Hemisphere.

Still happily rockin' DJI V2/Vistas, I think currently it's the best all round, video quality, availability and proven track record (no surprises here).

I disagree with your goggle pricing on HDZero. You can get a Skyzone Cobra L box goggle for $170 so the total price for a new user is $430 with the VRX. And there's all the other goggle options to choose from. Plus you have an analog goggle, so you can fly both systems. Most people will most likely fly more than one system, especially people flying bind and fly. Walksnail just announced their own VRX, so buying analog goggles or HDZero goggles will give you up to 3 options. It's unrealistic to think new users are going to lay out over a thousand dollars for their first quad. They're going to get an RTF kit like the Tinyhawk kit for a couple hundred and build up from there.

I've started FPV this year from Walksnail. Decided to choose it over DJI because DJI sounds like Apple in FPV world... locked ecosystem with rooting and jailbreaking to do something above and beyond. Fat Shark have different history and sounds a lot more DIY friendly, plus it is healthy competitor that will likely overpass DJI soon and make it all cheaper I believe.

DJI now and probably forever, for my FPV, Avata, Chimera, and GEPRC. Can’t beat the image quality

About HDZero , you forgot to mention the lower weight and power comsuption. And this is very important for very small builds, like 65/75mm TinyWhoop.

Thanks for the video! Regarding the analog vs digital for long range I would like to mention that in case the signal breaks (flying behind a rock for few seconds) the digital fpv system may take up to 1 minute to recover due to the communication between the googles and the drone. Analog is way faster in terms of recovering the video signal.

Perfect presentation,well done!

My preferred setup is dji in my 5" freestyle rig. Love the image quality. For my smaller quads I fly analog, works well enough to have fun. Analog is great to build budget kits for my grandkids. 😎

Great Video bro!

True Pawel. I fly two HD systems. And neither tick all the boxes that analogue does. So I still have more planes and quads that use analogue.

Some of us gotta live with analog. Affordability is the number one priority. If you can't see, you can't FPV. Better a fuzzy, olde-tymey link than flyin' LOS.

I've had the hd0 vrx and the freestyle vtx and race vtx I got my skyzone cobra x when I started flying and I think the cobra goggles are a good option I really like them and hd0 has been pretty good so far the image is great

I'm curious how we will change the channels on the vtx . Waiting for preorder and thought i could learn a little before it comes in the mail . Does it have to solder to a flight controller to use smart audio ? Is there a button ?

I fly Analog, HDZero and now DJI as well. I keep my analogs around for budget bashers. Both DJI and HDZero are worthy systems in their own right, great to have all the options now days.

Great vid as always dude! I'm staying team analog for my daily freestyle setups, and DJI for professional work- until prices equalize a bit more at least. Hard to justify sending a $250+ DJI setup through a bando at 60mph with rebar sticking out of the walls. Really hope the HD zeros of the world step up their game to make it more visually appealing and more on par with analog for cost. I think that's when this hobby starts appealing to a far greater audience.

DJI hands down, Im running wtf OSD and works fine. HD zero looks like analog, I already tried it

Hey man, great comparsion, is the most complet and clear about systems. I personalyt , because fly for 50 years, fpv for 13 years, have analog systems in many models, and change all for digital systems is much expensive, in Brasil is much more expensive, the money here is 5x more to dollar..... then my opinion is put the one digital system in my analog googles and be happy, ...... with less cost

It sounds like the HD systems have a camera preference? Can I still solder on my camera switch? Or will it all have to be wired differently? Don't know how many wires the camera has for the walksnail for example. But if it's just a signal wire it's simple.

As a wing pilot finally stepping into HD from 1.3 analog, I’m going with Walksnail. I use a ground station and monitor, and the Walksnail receiver with air unit will be less than $300.

Does the avatar vtx transmit audio? thank you

What is driving me mad is that there is a lot noise on digital fpv systems and I'm just curious about when the Orqa Digital System will came out and if will be really a game changer or it will need time to compete. This is what is holding me back from buying one of these now. I think I will wait till Q1 of 2023 to see what will happens.

Paweł, czy masz info czym się różnią Walksnail, bo jedne mają anteny przednie takie, jak górne, a inne z przodu mają te płaskie. Czy same google czymś się różnią?

Is analog the only way to get onboard mic sounds out of these? I can't find much info on onboard sound for any of the digital systems.

Can someone please tell me if there’s interference when using crossfire and walksnail avatar HD System??

I have seen so many people quiting the hobby and selling their stuf on local facebook groups that I think for anyone wanting to start on a budget with the digital system is really an option this way. People sell their V1 googles and air units for a decent prices. I ordered new tbs tango from china, paid for the shipping and import taxes, it arrived after like 3 months and week after I found a listing on fb groups for like half the price. Should have just wait and get one second hand.

for analog I use now Pirx on a Eachine EV300D, and picture is much more stabil as the original dual diversity system inside. Also it needs half electricity !

I'm currently undecided regarding which I prefer. I flew analogue for a few years then dji V1 and v2 goggles for another few years. Currently running hdzero and analogue as my daily driver. Micros hdzero larger builds analogue. However I'm eagerly looking forward to the walksnail vrx to be released soon. One set of goggles all three systems analogue walksnail and hdzero. What we need to remember also is how these systems feel to fly.....which suit our flying styles. Hdzero is sooo incredibly smooth as I analogue but with less clarity. Dji is stunning but can occasionally frustrate me with its latency. No idea about walksnail yet but I'm more hopeful that they will continue to improve itvbeyond dji current system. As for dji v3.... too expensive. Atm

Just bought HDZero 😊

Thanks for the video and all the info, Pawel! 😊 And BTW, Walksnail and HDZero went more than 30km in Wezley Varty's tests! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

What is the max known range for HDZero?

Completely agree.

kinda wish the DJI v2 goggles cost 429 in Europe... still seeing prices around 600+ Euro where i live..

Fantastic as usual! I trust you...WE are Engineers! ; ) For VTOL Wing WITH HD Video AND wind speed/direction MUST it be Ardupilot or can iNAV utilise wind sensor input! (heard somere that it can not!)

I fly analog because I got Sky04X's when there was only DJI for digital and I will never, ever, not EVER, give DJI one cent. And now, I can't afford any of the other options.

I think in review like this it worth to add at least some hint about technical differences to HD Zero, it is quite unique... because of how protocol works it is considered as something in between analog and digital. Instead of digital stream it transfers hundreds of smaller pieces of digital image one by one, so the image noise appears slightly closer to how it appears in analog, and that exactly why latency is a lot less and noise resistance is a lot more. But of course as a result price paid by quality. For those who are interested, take a look at histograms and at how HD Zero digital interference looks like in analog googles, it explains a lot.

so the perfect combination is HDzero goggle (or dji V2) + walksnail + pro58 fatshark module you get a digital and analog swiss army knife

Who else is still rocking Analogue?

i went from a caddex ant analog camera to a caddex ratel 2 when i went from a crux35 frame to an aos35 frame, and i didnt know the ratal had more latency than the ant but immidiatly i could notice the difference, it goes from one of the fastest analog cameras you can get to about comparable latency to dji 03 and i had to immidatly pull it out and went back to the ant, the picture quality is just as good, the shadows have more detail, the latency is crazy better and it comes with an adaptor for micro to mini

I went with Walksnail VRX to go with Skyzone Corba X V1 goggles, I was going to go used DJI but was afraid of getting a bad deal, I preordered so I have to wait till at least Dec 10th to if I made the Correct Choice

Agree with you.👍

-1Dji for quality(outside10/10 inside 8/10) -2analog not expensive & light (outside-inside 10/10 -3hd zero, I don’t have but I’m very interesting,for tinywhoop it must be the best in digital because it’s the lightest vtx Nice video! 👍🏻

Preferred, or rather the one I use the most, is analog. My daily driver goggles are the Skyzone 04X, these are compatible with all the VTX’s I’ve used, and still own, for more than ten years. I also use the same goggles with my Connex Digital system, HDZero, my fleet of 3DR Solo’s, Yuneec Typhoon H, and even my PS4 and 5. I do have the DJI V2 Goggles but only because I got the DJI FPV quad, new, at less than trade price. Fatshark/Walksnail in one word, pointless. If/when my Skyzone goggles need replacing I’ll be going with the HDZero’s due to their versatility.

I was on premium analog (Skyzone 04X with dual SteadyView receivers, VTXs 600mW to 1.5W, expensive cameras, AXII antennas everywhere) but with all the trees I fly around it was still snow, flickers and occasional rolling. I considered HDZero as it offered a VRX that I could use with my 04Xs which I love but it really is just pretty analog with the same annoyances in HD. I almost bought the FS/WS system as it seemed like the path forward being new but the odd origins, flakey results from videos left me concerned. Ultimately it was the combo of a lower price on the DJI V2's and the long track record of quality from the DJI system that compelled me to go with it. It just so happened that WTFOS officially released around the same time. Since then I have converted my Evoque, Roma, built a custom on AOS 5 frame and bought a couple of DJI Flywoos for sub-250. I could not be happier with DJI and WTFOS. The range, the clarity and I have yet to encounter a single issue in either installation or operation of the system in my fleet of five DJI quads.

thanx

I think HDZero is probably number one in the future. They are the most passionate. Feels like ELRS could be happening again.

Analog ftw!!! Consistency and quality and ofcourse price.

I don't matter video quality. I only want good range and penetration depth. In this case is Analog Better or Digital?

Английский специально для меня. Спасибо что не заставили включать меня субтитры. :))

There is also Openhd and Ruby FPV digital. Both are digital and open-source.

if you want a pretty image get the DJI, if you want quality and security choose walksnail

I chose HDZero so that I can continue using Analog in addition to Long Range (+14km) Digital HD. Just waiting for the new HDZero Googles release. Already have HDZero VTX and Cobra X Box Goggles.

No mention of that SIYI system?

"Best" is a tough call. Different tools for different jobs.

Did you hear about problems with GPS fix when using Walksnail FPV System?

This digital system price is going to break this hobby. Trying to fly with friends has become a nightmare

I'm surely a niche customer, but I have some interest in HDZero only because I already have nice goggles to use it with. Buying new goggles for DJI or WS just feels like a non-starter. Though I'm still pretty happy with Analog overall with good parts throughout. (shrug)

Analog is the best for racers, agrecive Freestyle pilot and to use with whoops. Digital is good only for Cinematic and for soft flight Freestyle.

I chose HDZero. And of course I have a large stash of analog that I might never use again. You should run a survey.

Still flying analog due to the cost and beta-ish nature of digital. I will probably dive into digital this year, but for now not happy with the stability of the options (changing too fast).

Obviously analog is the best when considering everything. It’s the only one that works in every scenario, on any model. If you could only have 1 system, it would have to be analog.

Czołem Paweł. But what about people (for example like me) who own analog gogles (in my case EV300O) as well as analog drones? Do we have to start from the the very beginning? No HDZero is the answer. For suche people like me it can be the cheapest option - vrx + whoop lite bundle. (Currently on BG it is very cheap). So my first digital small Drone Crux3 on 2s is a rock star and I'm very impressed how much better this drone is after this change. I can fly it everywhere without any problems. So for me it isn't the most expensive move. Isn't it?

I own both the dji v2 with caddx vista(1 unit) and the fatshark walksnail(3 units). The dji has a little more range but the walksnail has better video and the goggles feel slim and lighter to wear. I'll fly dji with my dji fpv & avata drones. I'll fly walksnail with all my fpv wings. I also have 9 other airplanes and wings on analog.

what is your microphone?

Analog: price, size (digital Vtx is large, regardless of manufacturer)

Haló, co Syi hm30? Jsem pilot, který preferuje obraz na monitoru. Na schůzkách mě mohou kolegové sledovat za letu. A závidí, že jejich lety nemohou vidět ostatní. Ale používám 1.3Ghz. Má nejnižší penetraci a je nejblíže DJI. Ve srovnání s HD0 je 1.3 jednoznačně lepší. Má mnohem lepší image. Ale nevýhodou je nahrávání. To vždy podvádí obraz.

Pawel, do you think there is any advantage to building the flight controller stack and VTX and RX into a faraday cage on the drone to improve GPS and noise cancellation.

Walksnail ostatnio wypuścił moduł zewnętrzny do gogli,

I am loving my Avata with the Goggles 2! Looking forward to my Goggles 2 being compatible with a future FPV drone!

So basically... it's... ANALOG FOR THE WIN 😀

At the moment, DJI & WTFOS

I am still waiting for a comparison on how the systems behave when flying together with a group of friends and how easy/fast the systems allow you to follow other pilots channels. For me, that's much more important than pure resolution.

You said Hdzero has the worst picture of them all? To me Hdzero looks way better than analog. I'm curious for what reason you think this?

Hmmm. Well, goggles make me feel sick so I use a 5" Hawkeye analogue monitor on my transmitter. Really like to see something like the result from my Mavic Air and 6.25" phone screen. If that exists it must be a well kept secret.

If you were driven more by flight experience other than image quality, I guess you would have placed HDZ on number one. At least this seems to be the experience with the new 90fps cam. DJI is good for explorers, HDZero shines on technical proximity flying. It's like comparing a Toyota to a Porsche. Also you cannot give for granted that DJI buyers are going to root their device.... that will only be done by hardcore flyers, not newbees.

Analog and DJI. Because that's the only system I have 😅

Ratings from your average joe freestyle pilot (not a racer, not into lr, own all five systems):- Analogue > Walksnail > DJIO3 > HDZero > DJI V2 Reasoning: Analogue has widest user support, cheapest per-quad build cost, and one can go bonkers flying and break vtx/camera and simply get new one without breaking bank. Can live with breakup, but noise issue is an actual problem. Walksnail is DJI but without it's weird business model. If they keep up with their current development speed, they can take over DJI in no time. With standalone VRX out, set becomes the second cheapest after analogue. But the current state of the system is still questionable. At it's best, the image quality is slightly better than DJI V2, at it's worst it is a jungle of smeary blobs. Am confident this will get fixed though. DJI O3 hands down has the BEST image quality. Dream of flying through your Action camera comes true. But unintuitively I feel it harder flying with THAT image, maybe because of the high contrast and slight motion blur, etc. You would like to SEE cinematic footage, but can you actually FLY with it? Something to think about. Also, the camera doesn't fit all frames and each set is so expensive that you can build a WHOLE OTHER analogue quad with that money. Ok I REALLY wanna rank HDZero more than this here because it is WAYY more capable than what I can get out of it. Especially with the upcoming HDZero goggles which I am planning to get (will replace my current Skyo4X). Feels like the HDZero system is wasted on me. It's just not for me because I really don't care all that much about latency, the image quality is nowhere near O3 or even Avatar, and I don't like the way it breaks up my image. I mean, it's not THAT much better than analogue to justify the price difference AND penetration issues. But then again, I see why tons and tons of other would love this system. Props to the Carl and other devs at HDZero though, amazing work, would love to see where it goes. I really don't like DJI's business model and I admit that I have a grudge against DJI. It's like Apple of the FPV community. Sure, quality is great but as many people have said, zero community interaction and locked on system. Image ON AVERAGE is better than Avatar, but when avatar is at it's best, image is slightly inferior. Range and penetration is pretty solid. The goggles are a headache though. Overall, it is reliable, proven, stable, and just works.

There’s a lot of videos that try to help in choosing the right system for the 1st time user BUT what RU-vidrs don’t understand is that when they start throwing terminology words such beta, walksnail, erls, open source, and on and on the audience is lost and intimidated to invest in a system that may be the wrong choice. I suggest learn about the systems that interest you and what works with what. So far I learn that there are racers, cruisers, explorers and cinematic professionals. There’s a system for every purpose. Also consider long range and latency.

I am still on analogue using Cobra X goggle. I am just thinking of walksnail vrx vtx camera combo. Nevrtheless hd fpv system is damn pricy.

Walk snail or dji

I'm analog only at this moment. I have skyzone cobra x goggles and I am satisfied with them. I am waiting for the hdzero goggles to come out. Analog video is supposed to look amazing in the hdzero goggles because of some different hardware that processes the analog signal. I'm not a racer but I think I would enjoy the lower latency of hdzero. I have seen pilots mention the latency of the dji system and how they adapted their flying style to the latency. I feel like this would bother me if I spent all that money and the system has noticable latency. I guess the picture quality must be that good to put up with some latency. But now there is a choice to have a better image quality with equal or better latency than analog. I hope the hdzero system is popular and stays around. I havn't preordered hdzero goggles, but I am eagerly awaiting them to hit retailers later this year.

Most people will start off in the hobby with analog because of the price and durability. Do you really want to have to replace a 200+ camera and VTX every time you take a huge hit while you are learning all those cool tricks, flippy floppin, bashing the bandos or sbangin ? Hopefully you listened to reason and got a good radio and goggles like everyone recommends which will let you transition into HD with a relatively smaller hit to the wallet by getting either an HD0 or now a walksnail addon module. Not to mention that you will only need the 1 pair of goggles while you slowly convert you fleet to HD. Just my $0.02

What happened to Pawel’s ears? The way he moves reminds me of Humpty Dumpty sitting and rocking on a wall.

to me the biggest problem with DJI is the DJI aeroscope that listens to DJI telemetry which comes even out of the DJI FPV airunits .. if you have gps they know where you are .. IDs stuff like that look at the drone institute videos .. there are flights logged under the FPV section .. so hard pass no one spies on me without my permission

OpenHD!! Only for planes tho

Hd zero is not cheap IF you have to buy the goggles. But for those who already got analog system you can just add it and then it's cheaper than dji or walksnail. Of course still not the best quality but far cheaper if you already got some gear

WTFOS = rooting the device?

Not fair to include goggle cost in with HDZero VTX, most people will have suitable (with HDMI) goggles already. With DJI/Walksnail you HAVE to purchase new goggles.

1.hdzero 2. dji o3

Hi Pawel, just a quick question - it appears there is no HDZero VTX peripheral choice in iNav 6.0. So you can't use the DJI WTFOSD firmware with the iNav version with the horizon drift fix. Is that true?

Interesting how these comparisons never talks about what type of flying you do or how important the goggle ergonomics are. Racing where fixed and low latency seems to be important. Analog or hdzero Situations where variable latency works? Well all three hd systems are a gamble on who will be there in the future especially since these are closed systems. No guarantees on how long the vendor will be there for you, including DJI who is well known for discontinuing their products. Me I went with Walksnail. Durable vtxs? I have been flying two for two months now and not an issue. If you know how to properly mount hardware, provide strain relief on wiring and antenna my sense is you'll be fine.

Many of the people are already using some kind of goggles. If there is a HDMI connectivity the calculations are not correct.

DJI

dji becomes even cheaper when you consider the goggles come with antennas

Avatar BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dji (Cost) the best

My preferred FPV system is still Analog and it will be analog for as long as it is possible. My reasons are: I fly long range and the flexibility about antenna placement, the reliability of the OSD, the ability to get VTX on microwave power levels and the tiny receivers to put on an antenna tracker or GCS are just important factors. But I will move to digital with a few crafts next year and my system of choice is Walksnail. I was a big hater on them after the Marketing Desaster Launch but they have proven themselves that they listen to the community, work with the devs, support INAV and full feature OSDs and deliver a DJI Like video quality. To me the best overall package. Hacking the OS of a similar expensive digital system just to get the same features, is no buyer argument for me and HDZero just lacks the nice HD OSD that WS and DJI wtf.OS have and are too much focused on quads and racers, delivering no benefit for fixed wing pilots at all.

everyone compares themselves to dji and claim to be as good, when dji is comparing itself to one of them i'll switch