DMT Entities, Carl Jung's Mysticism, and Ancient Wisdom | Alexander Beiner 

Great conversation guys. I’ve had a fascinating life, agnostic Psychedelic experiences 15-19 (80 trips) turned radical Christ follower at 19, full blown believer/preacher for years, drifted from “the Way”, kind of unraveled my life, double downed in 30s to the Bible, deep study into ancient texts (Hebrew/Koine Greek, some of the top unknown minds in Christ followership…) then last 5 years again, somewhat drifted from that way, yet still a strong believer… and have done almost every altered state experience over the past 5 years. I feel these experiences brought me closer to God, to love, to sign posts pointing me back to the Way. I’ve expected to have darker experiences, but it’s been very enlightening and mostly very loving and full of gratitude and healing. I believe psychedelics are bringing us into a 4th dimension of the spiritual realm. Anyway, no real point was just inspired to share my experience, as I don’t think many people have gone to the depths of Christianity that I have, really, and also the depths of mind altered states. I’m not sure they can co-exist together, or are needed to find truth/love/hope etc.. but personally, they have helped me work through some treacherous losses in my life and make sense of my place in this world. Cheers.

I've only done dmt a handful of times, and I made and administered Aya by myself once. Under the Aya, I learned that I have to love myself before I can meet and accept the love of the universe. And I was given flashbacks to my childhood to start me on the path of self-love. Most of those memories explained why I felt so unlovable, and one very special memory showed me a moment when I felt very loved by my grandmother. The gift of that one moment is that it triggers a long list of moments when she made me feel loved.

It's been 3 years since I tripped on DMT, can't find a plug anywhere in my area. Back then, We used one of those vaporizers with the big bags. The first time I didn't do enough and I just seen shapes and colours. But the second time I managed to get another hit in before I got the light headed. I remember floating above the country side flying and then all of a sudden I zoomed down into a deer and went right inside of it and I was the veins and the blood and flowing through this deers body. It was very strange lol

The Transcendental Object at the End of Time pulls us inexorably to collectively tickle the algorithm 👁🙏👁

The way these two gents discuss their thoughts on the psychedelic experience is a breath of fresh air. Extremely relatable experiences and share similar point of views.

I've recently smoked 5meodmt. Prior to that I've done psilocybin a few times. After that profound experience, all the spiritual work that ive done in the past finally has context... I now know what we are... ill be attending a vippassana retreat soon... to do real inner scientific work... my heart is opening, God Bless you guys

You talked about the cosmos being a living being. Ever since I was little, which was a long time ago, I imagined us on earth being part of a cell in some huge being. I would bring this up to people and they would look at me like "what are you smokin'?" Come on now, it may have been the 1970's, but I was 7.

I love Alex Grey's artwork, because expressed exactly what I saw with my psychedelic experiences. I believe people are having very similar experiences, and is very exciting to hear that there may be tests made to prove this.

Hearing about the shadow work reminds me of a quote. “If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” - aleksandr solzhenitsyn And that line he’s talking about can shift within us many time over the course of our life. The shadow side has its purpose. Sometimes it’s there for a season, sometimes it’s there for survival, sometimes it’s there for a lesson, and many other reasons and uses. But it’s in all of us. And that’s terrifying to a lot of people because deep down we know the one thing we can’t escape is ourselves.

thanks y'all, thanks, Michael, for all of your consistent goodies.

Fascinating convo.. thank you for sharing! Vervaeke’s most recent interview with Vivian Dittmar connects beautifully with this.

Really liked this episode- thx guys!

Great guest, great conversation, one of the best I have heard about this fascinating subject. And got a whole book list to read now

New drops make my day. ❤

Gratz on the 50k!

This was so rich and wonderful. I smiled and laughed through much of it, and at times my heart was singing. Thank you both very much.🙏❤

excellent stuff. thank you

Love the perspectives ❤

The way he describes not understanding or relating to people growing up is exactly how I've always felt, and still do.

Love your channel and online presence(memes over at IG). Keep up the fantastic work helping to expand our collective consciousness! Thank you!

Thanks for touching on psychedelics and Christianity. It was hard for me to work through those cognitive biases, and I still struggled with it every time I take a psychedelic plunge. I used to associate my anxiety with the devil/demons tormenting me. I used Christianity as a tool to ease the anxiety. I became very OCD with religious rituals.

That orb flying by was actually kinda nuts

❤😍 thanks!! So cool info!

I've been doing Ayahuasca for over two years monthly, and prior to that, I was doing heroic dosages of mushrooms. After piercing the Veil and at the pinnacle of self-realization, we will discover there's nothing in this Universe except you. The experience is so profound! From that point on, you've literally crossed the river of change. Having those repetitive experiences allows us to integrate it into our everyday lives. Enjoy the ride.♾️

Finally, an intelligent dialog of neuroscience based mysticism. Best wishes

Really great episode. I loved Alexander’s book, and his discussions on DMTx. This is a great addition. If I make it to Imperial, I hope to meet him someday! Thanks for the great content as usual.

My name is Jentry, You are so correct about the deep and speaking to spirits and the healing leading to evolution. It's also about understanding things from other perspectives. I've been in the deep knowingly since 2018.

Your videos are so amazing thank you!!!❤❤❤

Thank you for helping me engage in and probably catalyzing my active lens shopping brother ⚡

Great convo!

super interesting video. Thanks so much for all your hard work and gifted insight you bring to the world!

This is my favorite channel and has inspired me to upload myself

Synchronicity is an ever present reality for those who have eyes to see ~said that little orb flawlessly flying in at the perfect time. Great talk as usual !

Some where I heard a quote from Jung saying”Thank goodness I am Jung and not a Jungian”

AMAZING!!!! Pile 2 & 3. I felt an urge for 1 but skipped it but I did get the message of the “mother” thank youuuuu❤❤❤❤❤ YOU SPIRITUAL BADDIE😍

you got my sub ! Whatta cool naut Alex is - big love to a great fearless mind !

I love how this conversation goes so into the explanation of having to frame to look through or it's pure chaos when you peeled the veil! I see things through a spiritual lense which was very crazy for me because I wasn't spiritual at all I started experiencing these psychedelic experience before I did ayahuasca. I didn't realize I was mystic at my core makes sense why I love Carl jung But I've been challenging my beliefs lately and wanting to know more research I do believe tho this was a synchronicity. I do shadow work regularly and I am a medium 💕💕 thank you for this amazing conversation.

Great show and guest. I think you will thoroughly enjoy having a conversation with Jason Reza Jorjani.

Thank you : )

Can't wait

Keep it going dude awesome show is mint keep probing

I tried dmt few years ago,few times, the thing is longer the time goes what i experienced there becomes more real as a memory of something very special. It came to my life when i was most confused about world, when i needed answers , it showed me what its all about and than left my life like never existed before, and its just a memory wich more and more im identifyng as regular reality, what i mean by this is what we experiemcing here in this reality, anxiety, fear, love, loneliness, happiness, sadness everything comes from same place and same energy, only thing is its translated from there into bodys, into emotions, into words and nature. We create this just for us, just to experience everything. We pretend to forget we are one because its how its supposed to be. From that stillnes we wanted to experience movement. But we always go back to ourselves

Excellent content, as ever.

54:45 - “a chattering cat looking at the window of eternity” is my favorite description of glossolalia I’ve ever heard 😂😂😂 Glossolalia is an interesting experience.

Hello, I’m a DMT virgin, this whole thing is intriguing. I’ve had plenty of shrooms, acid and mdma experiences but I need to experience this at least once. I’m an atheist, but the fact that half of the atheists who have had a dmt experience have changed their view. Does anyone know if a blind person has shared their DMT experience? That would be very interesting.

Love it brother!!! Thaaaank you!!!

I am a CMO of a marketing agency but I am seriously contemplating starting my own channel. I have some experiences that would qualify me for being on one of these kind of shows. Especially what happened to me a month ago. I couldn't make what happened to me up in my wildest dreams "It did 'involve' dreams." The thing is I'm sitting on this all with this nagging feeling that I need to find a way to share it. More will be revealed ...

Spiral out I wonder how many Tôôl fans are here 🤔

Well I have to triple comment because thhs one is really important. He mentioned "white noise static but also colorful" about what the DMT space is without his overlay. He's describing exactly what I see all the time. I see what sorta looks like "snow" on an old CRT tv without a signal, but it's colorful in a way but it's also not colorful at the same time. I see it with my eyes opetor closed. It's like I have an "overlay" as well but it's transparent. I can still see everything else but I also see the "static" noise too. When i close my eyes I can often see patterns come out of the "snow" that look remarkably like the geometrical patterns you see in DMT art. Sometime I se faces as well. A face will pop out and will morph into other faces. I'm of the opinion that the DMT space is very real and I also think it's possible to go there without DMT. Hope it doesn't sound like I'm tooting my own horn but I think I have some "switch" that's somehow flipped within me that is letting me see this place and just a tiny bit of the DMT space at thw same time. Seriously I've been telling people about the "tv snow" for years now and this guy described what I see.

Will be watching this a second time today, thank you!

I stumbled into shadow work as well, but didn't know about what that is until after the fact. For me it happened when I stopped taking depression and anxiety medication. It seemed soul killing, and turned me into a zombie. I threw it all away and quit cold turkey. My brain freaked out and my mind went threw a very unpleasant "shattering". I got threw it by, metaphoricly, picking up and examining all of the pieces. That's when I started to examine my thought processes, and inner voice. I learned that I have a lot of protective love that I've never received from others. Since I had childhood truama it manifested in a rather toxic way, but when analyzed I came to understand it came from a place of self tough love. It was actually pushing me to improve and scolding me when I do self destructive things. It's like having a toxic uncle that isn't very nice but would 100% go to prison for you. Lol

I would like to say that the peyote experience is so powerful and beautiful!! I totally recommend it. St Louis Potosi the desert in Mexico is the magic place..

I danced with hundreds of insectheaded 10 feet tall humanoids👍łn a gigantic spacestation disco , true story, the music was a strange very trance techno beautiful LOUD , just so fun , the oneliners those dude flaunted made cramp up in laughter , and 5 minuts later , i was send back into my apartment .... I effing love that spice 😂❤

Hi, i just found your video, so please forgive my newbie question. My daughter is struggling. She is an alcoholic and has ptsd along with other mental undiagnosed challenges. She has dealt with these challenges far too long and won't seek help because she has to go to the VA. I've been thinking about her going to a therapy with psychedelics but i don't know where to begin and cant afford a fancy retreat center. Where can i go to get her help like this?

There were a couple of books mentioned in this one had LSD in title and the other snow something...?

Ahhh. You're familiar with the "Tricksters"? Fascinating...

These are two quotes that I typed out from after reading Catafalque that might kinda relate to the DMT experience: "There are some situations, though, where no amount of explaining is going to make any difference-will ever be enough." "Ambiguity has been well and truly excluded, drowned out by the voice of rationality-by what Jung liked to describe as the 'petty reasoning mind, which cannot endure any paradoxes". Or at least this is what rationalists choose to think. But what they forget is that originally ambiguity and paradox were an integral, essential feature of real logic: of the sacred logic, which always stands untouched although savaged by their reasoning."

“Make the Demiurge Good Again” 😅 I’d wear that.

The reason why people think they’re dying on DMT is because they are accessing fifth and sixth level density consciousness fifth density is non-physical, which is spirit level consciousness so people think they are dying because they are entering a frequency of spirit

Experimenting with a 5meo/salvianorin blend, is a very complementary mix

OMG...during an extra profound awakening (unassisted by chemical enhancements), I had a large geometric orb visit that touched my energy field, and I've always wondered if anyone else has ever experienced one!

Little orb seems like the most reasonable hypothesis at this point😂

1:06:10 - you’ll have to tell me more about this CSF chamber thing. I just wrote a bunch about CSF and DMT experiences, but didn’t come across what you’re discussing. This thing is, to investigate it this way is not to discount the experience, or to make it boring. It’s just for science to find a mechanism and then continue the search. The CSF bit may literally be part of the experience. If it can be seen, played with, investigated, utilized, etc., why not find out? If your frame is that it’s boring, then sure, it’ll be boring, or it’ll be sci-fi, or it will be prophetic. Your call. It can be framed as a truth claim too, but that’s conjecture placed on others often. People are more often proposing a hypothesis, or theory, with fervor.

It is interesting to note that children have no sense of "I" before the age of 18 to 24 months. This fact somehow fits in well with your interesting discussion. Thank you.

47:00 - I experience these as well, and did in dreams as a child. I had one LSD trip in particular which was only a body trip for the first four hours, but then I had DMT and there were these objects innumerable. I believe I have since figured out what they are.

What you’re talking about is literally the least common denominator behind most wars which is arguing for a hegemony over who’s spiritual authority is greater. It’s not surprising that people who do this kind of exploration end up being highjacked by one of our many modern day groups intent on owning “the truth” behind these fascinating and highly subjective experiences. I can see this happening even in some scientific realms. It’s probably related to what you were referring to when you were talking about needing a filter in order to make sense of the situation. The world religions definitely have a long and well crafted perspective/institutionalized system to instantly slap on top of it all by referring to angels and demons. It’s a scare tactic that works because there is some truth to needing to be very careful when seeking out these experience. The fear then gets capitalized on. Add social media insanity to it and it’s a ripe place for weird culty groups to get together and be snapped up by fearful conservative traditions who traditionally have a vested interest in controlling this dialogue. Remember it was the Puritanical prohibition movements that targeted all other spiritual traditions and substances of entry to this state of mind which we are just slowly slowly starting to crawl back out of. The definition and control of the spiritual realms and who has direct access to it or not was and is huge business. What should be an inherent right of humanity has been locked down and rigidly controlled for centuries, especially the last couple.

1:23:45 - This is where I’m coming from in all my crazy comments, btw. I am a long-form writer and playwright in the end. Well said that you become a better storyteller and mythologist. I was raised under the lense of one of those peak individuals.

P sure they found it being made there but also other places, if i remember where i saw it, I'll post

I appreciate the question Michael suggested to Alexander about asking the DMT entity about its astral appearance. Is there a singular place where the community can learn more about the experiences of the participants and offer our own insights and suggestions for future trips? It not, perhaps there should be one. If there needed to be a paywall, maybe a portion could be donated to decriminalizing this medicine.

So, are you saying that the results of these experiments are synonymous with the concept of Qualia?

This is brilliant. I’m a new fan boy! I hypothesise that the spine stem and spinal fluid is heavily involved with the production on DMT (I believe it’s been proved to be found there) I w Speculate that this is why the sensation of kundalini energy comes here, starting at the base and moving up. Eventually terminating at... the pineal gland. Not necessarily the producer, but the final destination. Where DMT then off boards and interacts with your brain Just a thought 😊

"You can go your own way"

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I've never heard of any account of truly novel information or insight given by these entities. Aside from some vague or at least very human personal insights clearly related to the individual's experience. This makes me skeptical about the possibility of them being mind independent. That being said, still very interesting and still much left to be discovered.

All this mental illness labels or psychological reminds me of the Brice Willis movie, Unbreakable. Very good movie about this topic hermano, i recommend it.

There's a game plan to this complicated existence, it's just way behind our knowledge level to even come close to decipher!

1:02:39 I was met by my fathers presence after taking DMT and feeling as though I had a NDE ...obviously from the DMT ....when I landed I was balling like a baby and reaching up to the sky as though I was trying to hold on ...and all I felt was I had to let go but didn't want to 😢

You talk about the differences between DMT and NDE's. Just wondering if homogeneous DMT in Humans or Mammals is also NN-DMT or a different kind? Just thinking because as you mention 5MEO has different effects.

Andrew Gallimore would fund thus conversation of value. Thanks for the insights.

Nndmt always feels like my body wants to go into cardiac arrest .. the whole experience gets taken over by that.

I wish Alex talked more about his DMTx experiences

Glad I found this podcast! Especially enjoy talk on Jung. Inspiring and thought provoking.Its like if reality was a cake The west would only have a slice and dismiss the rest of the cake. The east would have the entire cake.

I've done copious amounts of d m t. I just got done doing some. It doesn't matter how much i take anymore. I don't trip. I remain extremely focused and I vibrate...my dogs go crazy i have to lock them up. I use a geek vape set to 17 watts on an e-mesh. Perfect hit every time. Anyone else that hits it once instantly blasts off. I also have done harmaline with pharmauyasca or dmt fumerate. Also vaped a lot while on oral dmt and it just gives me an energy surge.

Crue trime?

Did you shift?

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I "only" did Ayahuasca and was surrounded by 3 humanoid creatures, who behaved and felt curious/ ver interesting, like they where probing me.those on my left and right where observing only, the one in front of me was communicating, he was formed by partially transparant balls, each ball had things in them going on, some had views of a galaxy, some looked like a movie with people talking to each other, others where like a view of people walking on a trainstation, some where nature, microcosm, etc. When I looked into them it was as if I was being pulled into it, so I tried to because I thought "woah, these are portals". But the being constantly directed my attention to other balls he wanted to show me, and so he did, these balls where about my life and how I was behaving destructively and how I judged people living "normal" lives while letting me feel into their lives wich where much more living then I did at the time, I was in a period of disassociated non participant, I was living by choice like a spectator, because I felt every action could be contributing to this vast prison system of ego suffering, this fear aggregate wich I feel like fuels something potentially non benevolent, the being taughted me that non participating is also participating and showed me in these balls one by one what kind of good things I Could have done and my non participating was just a mind construction to obfuscate the FEAR of making the wrong choices, and that I did not even was practicing non participation but hedonism. That was a pretty bad trip, but the confrontation was life changing in a good way because it put me on a path of following Yeshuah's teaching and try to shed as much self illusionary ego as I can without becoming totally disfunctional. You guys are talking about you want an objective model for a subjective world, reality is mental, there is no usefull objective world, you also fall into dogma, science is also imbued with dogma. You need to use a subjective model to navigate in a subjective world. Mindfullness and keeping the shadow on a leash, dont feeding it but being capable of absolute brutality when its needed. Like we need to use the shadow only for self defence,😊😊

Nothing beats the natural "DMT" that the pineal gland can create. Should do a study on that.

Wait Jung met his soul?? I did too. On DMT. What I can only describe as my soul. The animating force. I also met it in another person. Very familiar but couldn’t understand it. And also tons of wild synchronicities around that time and still having them and they seem to have that “non causal connection” to the twin flame journey. I recognized her by how she moves and how she moves WITH me. Idk if that makes sense. It came with a complex feeling of Deja vu The word “twin flames” is a topic most people don’t want to entertain or learn about. From the outside looking in, it appears to be a toxic bubble of delusion but there’s much more in it. It’s complicated All this shadow work and revealing unconscious and all this inner work comes as a byproduct of the twin flame journey. Then pairing that with psychedelics and understanding Jung completely transforms the psychedelic experience.

I don't know why, but I have a huge fear of DMT. I just can't seem to breakthrough, I've used it close to a 100 times and every time I hit a wall of fear that I can't go over. How do others do it?! How?! I would really like to breakthrough.

I think I had 1.5yr of low level PTSD after 1 5meo experience. Proceed with great caution. Its a collasal and profound.... eh... um.. I don't know what it is! 🤯 (You wll need to get to work after it) 🙂

I had a NDE that took me to the darkness. I was not fearful of anything. Actually, I said how "cool" this trip was. This happened after I realized I was dead of course. But before I came back. There was this weird, hard to explain, plasma energy like liquid flowing in from......somewhere. I have not heard of anyone else with the exact same experience. Darkness, yes, but....not the crazy plasma energy liquid. Anyone out there experience the same ???

The way to get into those studies: nepotism, knowing people. Zero democratic access.

THE SHADOW

The first time I pressed through without drugs was accompanied buy an eruption of bliss and glossolalia 😂

crew trime lol 6:32

Did you just say tickle your wonder nuggets. 😂

34:58 i wish hed see this cuz i have a question: did you entities not get upset with you for the music(basically trying to help inducing it) i tried that one night and i swear i opened my eyes to something hivering over me looking me up down side to side and push the feeling of like" what are you doing, your dping this all wrong, just tale my hand" at that point i was carried up through different realms ...thats another story 😅

Curiosity is the only thing separating humans from their godhood.

I heard somehere opposed to the pineal gland theory that if the brainwaves in both hemisphers synchronise, that's when we have changed states of consciousness, so possibly a brain DMT release from that? Before i did psychedelics i learnd to astral project at night and i feel like that has something to do with brainwaves. The vibration that preceeds the projection starts in my feet and goes through my body to my brain. After one good mushroom trip i had astral projection that night and the vibrations went extremly quickly from my feet into my brain and it made like a "DING!" sound in my brain. Like it was charged, synchronised and prepared to operate. So there might me something to the idea, if brain DMT has something to do with astral projection that is.... i don't know. Astral world isn't like the DMT world at all (from what i heard i didn't do DMT yet) but maybe it depends on the dose the brain makes and other chemical mix in there. A good mushroom trip does help the brain to have astral projection more often though so that is somehow connected.