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Do Casual Players Grief in FF14? 

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Final Fantasy 14 has had a lot of recent discourse with people complaining about casual players slowing down clear times in alliance raids. Are casual players griefing or is something more going on here? Let's talk about how the game's design plays a huge part in this controversy.
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Комментарии : 16   
@LunGreenStar
@LunGreenStar Год назад
I love the shot you used for the gpose example LMAO
@Sonicrida
@Sonicrida Год назад
Haha I had fun recording it
@jeanbryot6765
@jeanbryot6765 Год назад
what bout me moderate player, i can go in between
@Sonicrida
@Sonicrida Год назад
You are the legend known as "midcore"
@Rennat9002
@Rennat9002 Год назад
I love this music. I started the game with him and just vibed in that town listening to the music for like 30 minutes when I booted it up xD
@Sonicrida
@Sonicrida Год назад
Yeah I sat there so long too! It's sooooo addicting haha
@Lotis343
@Lotis343 Год назад
CBU3 is currently getting ready to release their biggest game embargo to date
@adjwindu70
@adjwindu70 Год назад
4:24 TRUE!
@nukfauxsho
@nukfauxsho Год назад
Absolutely. I rescue friends into pitfalls all the time.
@Sonicrida
@Sonicrida Год назад
True friendship
@Gingaluna
@Gingaluna Год назад
octopath musiiicccc
@Sonicrida
@Sonicrida Год назад
I'm obsessed with it atm
@AbsolLonewolf
@AbsolLonewolf Год назад
I only picked up this game at the start of EW and have gone through savage tiers and one an ultimate. Jobs are too simple; and vets are right on it. A lot of the jobs have been gutted before to make them seem like others just to get newer players (who aren't going to learn them anyways) to try them out. ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1d_fMH9Lwvs.html ) good vid to watch to know more. While there are quite a few buttons in the game; they arent en masse. most classes at best have 2-3 standard hot bars worth of skills and knowing what they do is as simple as opening the skills and traits menu and reading it. You don't even need to look up a rotation or anything as the skills themselves with combos and the like essentially hand you the way to play them for a casual experience. The game never mentions 2 minute bursts; its true but you never need it in any casual content ever. It is specifically for Savage and a handful of recent extremes and higher. No casual player would need to know this as all class abilities and skills naturally line up with it assuming you get a basic rotation going. Keeping a DoT up is self explanatory, as damage over time adds up, and can crit. while the crit part isn't known of the bat, the adding up over time is self explanatory. Anyone who practices a rotation will eventually learn of uptime; since part of doing a rotation is keeping up buffs for classes. (examples: Sam and their buffs, WAR,DRK,BLM,etc), learning your basic rotation will teach you the concept on its own . All in all, the divide exists entirely due to how classes have changed to meet casual players and how despite all this casuals wont go out of their way to learn a class. What is the point of changing something if the people the change is intended for don't take advantage of it. A lot of the stuff aforementioned I learned and understood from HW-StB just by looking at my skills and seeing what stuck, you never need any outside resources to learn anything just a striking dummy and an half hour read. Even then you could learn it in a dungeon by doing your rotation. I am also a mentor; and have gotten the line from casual players that we are hated when we give "unsolicited advice" even if its something as small as letting them know to mit before a pull to mitigate healing needed. All in all a good 1/3rd of the mentor roulls I've been in with newer players have been met with something to the effect of it. Dont get me wrong this isn't a bad video and I'm not trying to diss or anything; but still it's better to give a take from my side as someone who is actively trying to teach newer players only to be met with resistance all the while
@BaghNakh1
@BaghNakh1 Год назад
The main problem is that "casual players" in all MMOs are always the huge majority of the playerbase so it makes sense that the devs will build their game towards that audience. There is no reason to build your game with only the 1-2% in mind, an example of this is WoW, a game that right now is so anti-casual that every time a "hardcore" player leaves the game, there is no one to replace them because casual players reach end game, realize end game content is clearly not only not meant for them but also the community gatekeeps the content and bar new players from entering it since you need these 6-8 mandatory addons so you can now begin to understand how raid mechanics work which are designed with the top elite World First competitors in mind almost exclusively to keep the game "interesting" for them and so on, which has caused that retail WoW is just slowly losing it's playerbase. As a new FFXIV player I've encountered myself with the kind of mentors you mention. Like I thought the "mentors harassing sprouts" was a meme but oh god when you're doing roulette and a mentor comes in, it's like a loot box: you could get the mentor that just silently blends in the group and says "gg" at the end and thats it, the one that is like "if you wanna do big pulls I gotchu" and then there is the one that is like "ok so you didn't stacked your mitigations there that shows you don't know how to play the game because stacking mitigation is key to do big pulls because when you do big pulls you can go faster and just kill everything with aoe, I can't believe I have to say this, you're a sprout but you should now this by now I mean read a guide already, this is how everyone does this, if you don't do as I say it means you're such a bad player, you're going to have such a hard time on endgame and since you refuse to listen to my advice I will just run ahead of you and show you how the job is done so maybe you learn"... Like some mentors think the mentor badge is a license that allows them to freely micro-manage other players gameplay or something, no wonder why mentors in general have such a bad reputation in the community, but in reality everybody knows you didn't "earned" the mentor badge because the community values your advice/experience or something, reality is that you just probably play a lot as healer on roulettes and people just tend to commend healers by default and thats it.
@Nempo13
@Nempo13 Год назад
@@BaghNakh1 and Ceru forgot a huge meme in the community that has 95%+ chance of always being true; the worst player in any group is always the one using any title with the word "Legend" in it. These players have grinded out with exact compositions and expected barrier locations on where they are expecting to greed. Every single time I see a "Legend" show up in a raid or trial roulette they always spend a 3rd of the run dead. Every, single, time. It is PAINFUL when they are a healer or tank too. They are always the first ones to start yelling and complaining. I enjoy setting them off by rescuing them out of mechanics. By the second time you force them to actually do mechanics they start yelling. It is ALWAYS the 'Legend' title users.
@anteprs7908
@anteprs7908 Год назад
Sound like a anti casual mindset
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