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Do coaching changes AFFECT KD's Legacy? 🤔 Next year will be his SIXTH COACH in last 6 YEARS | Get Up 

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On Get Up, Andraya Carter, Jay Williams, Chiney Ogwumike and Zach Lowe join Mike Greenberg to react to the Phoenix Suns firing Frank Vogel and discuss the coaching changes over Kevin Durant's career and how it affects his legacy.
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@MaarSRT
@MaarSRT 12 дней назад
6 coaches in 6 years….. and people call LeBron the coach killer. Smh
@The-Real-One-
@The-Real-One- 12 дней назад
KD never called himself the 🐐
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 12 дней назад
@@The-Real-One-Bron never had 6 coaches in 6 years lol
@stepoichi
@stepoichi 12 дней назад
​@@The-Real-One- isn't there an interview of him asking why isnt't he in that conversation? he saying he should be.
@santoro19782
@santoro19782 12 дней назад
please help me understand something here how does it work in a lebronette's mind that something about kd becomes something about lebron? the piece is not even about him
@TheKennyGM
@TheKennyGM 12 дней назад
they both are... you srsly trying to defend Lebron that never takes accountability...
@knell7900
@knell7900 12 дней назад
Thanks Greeny for trying to hold kd accountable thank you . Jay must be getting paid
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 12 дней назад
Jay always been a clown that’s why he rarely on tv
@py3148
@py3148 12 дней назад
Per Barkley…best bus rider ever
@rcruz-zu4sm
@rcruz-zu4sm 12 дней назад
Coming from someone who can't even get on the wnba bus
@cremdeniro237
@cremdeniro237 12 дней назад
​@@rcruz-zu4smdoes thw truth hurt you cause barkely was right he is a bus rider all you people do is get mad when somebody says something you dont wanna hear he got swept 2 twice in 3 years what you call that
@rcruz-zu4sm
@rcruz-zu4sm 12 дней назад
@cremdeniro237 the bus rider averaged over 30 ppg and won 2 fmvp 🤣 meanwhile chuck bouncing around teams and never won 1 ring
@dannybuck4445
@dannybuck4445 12 дней назад
@@cremdeniro237Dude he was the player on GS. That was Prime KD..
@Hopper830
@Hopper830 12 дней назад
KD didn't even like playing for Kerr. He's a coach killer.
@sitonmuhdeckasshole
@sitonmuhdeckasshole 12 дней назад
That’s not true, you KD haters just make up narratives. He said he didn’t like how he handled the fight between Draymond because Steve tried to ignore it. Draymond agreed with him! He never said Steve was a bad coach or hard to work with. Pull the quote!
@ssnochevy
@ssnochevy 12 дней назад
ELITE dumb take...my god people are stupid lol
@bruceleroy7193
@bruceleroy7193 12 дней назад
"It's just a band-aid when you need surgery & the problem is you can only afford band-aids" 🔥🔥🔥 I'm stealing that phrase.
@robertoenriquez3659
@robertoenriquez3659 12 дней назад
"Tell me what to think!" These sports shows get people hook, line, and sinker.
@bruceleroy7193
@bruceleroy7193 12 дней назад
@@robertoenriquez3659 It's not tell me what to think, it's "that was a good line, I'm gonna use that". Big difference.🤦🏾‍♂️
@angue.agrant872
@angue.agrant872 12 дней назад
This Title is too Funny😂.. Went From "How does this affect Lebron's Legacy" to "How does this affect KD's Legacy" Lmfao
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 12 дней назад
😂😂
@Cb_30
@Cb_30 12 дней назад
Wait until the season is over, the topics get more outrageous
@raiderbro8663
@raiderbro8663 12 дней назад
effin espn 😆
@makedredd299
@makedredd299 12 дней назад
KD never had a legacy. He is just a mercenary who just wanna hoop, jumping from highest bidding team to highest bidding team.
@44blinkley
@44blinkley 12 дней назад
Same with Lebron. Exactly.
@christopheronyia11
@christopheronyia11 12 дней назад
@@44blinkley ay ay uh huh, lebron is not that at all. Lebron had no choice but to leave Cleveland and go to Miami. He didn’t have the talent nor the consistent help to accomplish playoff wins and a finals wins. All the championships lebron won was hard work and he led to teams to finals victories.
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 12 дней назад
Facts
@Flare8124
@Flare8124 12 дней назад
@@44blinkley LeBron went to Miami who after 2006 either got knocked out in the first round or no playoffs, went back to Cleveland who had the worst record in the league since he left, and went to LA who were one of the top 2 bottom teams since 2016, led them all to chips. KD had to go to a 73-9 team for his only chips lmao. And i guarantee you LeBron could have led the Nets and the Suns to the Finals
@44blinkley
@44blinkley 12 дней назад
@@Flare8124 He brought Bosh with him to Miami and choked against Dirk. He brought Kevin Love to Cleveland and got smoked by Steph. He couldn’t even make the playoffs before AD got there and that bubble ring was a joke. So that’s changing teams, bringing another superstar, failing, then needing another rebuild lol
@SojiRo23
@SojiRo23 12 дней назад
Says WAY more about the front offices than the players. Healthy organizations don’t fire coaches every couple of years.
@Sirloin2k
@Sirloin2k 12 дней назад
The goofy people in nba do cause stars run the league now
@chickenmanoktae
@chickenmanoktae 12 дней назад
They fired the coach because KD asked them to
@sitonmuhdeckasshole
@sitonmuhdeckasshole 12 дней назад
You guys are ignoring the issue and focusing on the sports radio narrative. Vogul didn’t get fired because KD, Booker, Ishbia, no one but himself. He has 3 all star level talents and couldn’t construct a good offense. They barely ran plays. Frank is a D coordinator but he’s never coached a great offense, even in 2020 they were 11th with LeBron, AD, Rondo, Kuzma, KCP, Danny Green, Dwight, Caruso and Avery Bradley. NOT TOP 10! He’s a terrible offensive coach, he deserved to be fired, unquestionably. 10th best offensive with Suns 3 and Nurkic and Grayson playing pretty well offensively that’s unacceptable. Even with a bad bench.
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 12 дней назад
Facts
@theronhuggins
@theronhuggins 12 дней назад
@@chickenmanoktaehow u kno
@bobhu
@bobhu 12 дней назад
YES
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 12 дней назад
Vogel is actually a good coach, unlike Dopey Darvin KD is the REAL Coach Killer WestBRICK too lol
@robertoenriquez3659
@robertoenriquez3659 12 дней назад
Then why did the Lakers fire him?
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 12 дней назад
@@robertoenriquez3659Why are you pretending you dont know that Vogel wasnt fired to appease WestBRICK the Coach Killer?? lol
@robertoenriquez3659
@robertoenriquez3659 12 дней назад
@@Nostalgia9478 Really? He was fired to appease a B list star? The 2 A list stars didn't override that? I'm not pretending I didn't know that because I didn't know that.
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 12 дней назад
@@robertoenriquez3659 Why are you still pretending that Vogel wasnt fired to appease your pwecious POS WestBRICK and his A list 47 million dollar salary? Whats next? You gonna pretend that primadonna PUNK WestBRICK being an egomaniac and refusing to come off the bench under Vogel didnt sabotage the coach?? Keep being in severe denial of reality, WestBRICK STAN lol
@teledanhogan4237
@teledanhogan4237 12 дней назад
Bus riders only go where the drivers go. KD is a great player who has proven to be a rider.His skills aren’t enough to do what Jokić did by carrying a team w/o stars to a championship..It’s also why Jokić is a legitimate 3 time MVP overcoming the well known high intensity spin espn AND Klutch has constantly tried to spin…
@theronhuggins
@theronhuggins 12 дней назад
Stop repeating the media and get a original take. Bus rider omg so original
@cremdeniro237
@cremdeniro237 12 дней назад
100% kd won with HOF jokic won without even 1 all star on his team kd is the best bus rider ever
@cremdeniro237
@cremdeniro237 12 дней назад
​@@theronhugginsis the truth bothering ok lets try this kd is a horse wagon rider but not a horse wagon driver I bet this still upsets you
@theronhuggins
@theronhuggins 12 дней назад
@@cremdeniro237 and youre a random person on RU-vid without even a wagon. Hope that doesnt offend u.
@clintperlman1492
@clintperlman1492 12 дней назад
Kevin Durant - "You know who I am, Im Kevin Durant"
@srtghost3842
@srtghost3842 12 дней назад
When we talk about a players legacy and how many rings they won we don’t account for how much of a role an owner, a GM and a coach plays into winning a championship. You literally have players drafted into near perfect situations and then you have players who have the odds stacked against them or they have to deal with a cheap owner, a bad GM, or a bad coach. For example, look how much money the warriors owner is willing to pay in salary cap fines and compare that to the thunder trying to short change Harden out of $5M. Look what Thibs is doing in NY, do you think the Knicks would be doing this if Darvin Ham was the coach? Look at the talent Boston has put around Tatum during his career and compare that to the talent lebron had the first 7 years of his career.
@mordecaidrake
@mordecaidrake 11 дней назад
Just another reason why so many people are waiting for this generation of players to get tf out of the way and retire 😂
@Itsxmusic
@Itsxmusic 12 дней назад
He should’ve stayed in GS. All the talk about it being “too easy” wouldn’t have mattered in the long run. He let the media bully him.
@777RL
@777RL 12 дней назад
KD wanted Nash, and then wanted him fired. SMH
@knell7900
@knell7900 12 дней назад
You see how they talk about it different? Kd says he should be on the goat conversation
@RPYMCMB
@RPYMCMB 12 дней назад
That’s my biggest issue with KD. Great player but how dare you say you should be in the GOAT convo with your track record and Resume.
@44blinkley
@44blinkley 12 дней назад
@@RPYMCMB Exactly. KD and Lebron can’t be in the convo
@AnthonyFernandez23
@AnthonyFernandez23 12 дней назад
As a suns fan well let’s see what happens with this new coach coming in 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ let’s see how we do.
@russv957
@russv957 12 дней назад
KD didn’t get his coach fired; it was Ant-Man!!
@Maxjuliann
@Maxjuliann 12 дней назад
Kd got Mickey rings
@44blinkley
@44blinkley 12 дней назад
Nah, that’s Lebron.
@09lowkey
@09lowkey 12 дней назад
NBA franchises need to chill with all these coach firings and re-hirings. Finals and Championship coaches constantly fired and rehired somewhere else is getting out of hand. Malone, Spo, & Kerr are the only Finals & Championship coaches to still have a job with the same team, next coach is Popovich from 2014 (he don't count because he's already the longest tenured coach in the league).
@jems1013
@jems1013 11 дней назад
Miami is the right culture for Kd
@alexanderdumas-
@alexanderdumas- 12 дней назад
Not making out the 2nd round in a decade without Steph Curry should.
@firstlast-er9jq
@firstlast-er9jq 12 дней назад
What legacy nobody think of KD as a champion he’s just a modern Carmelo who slithered his way on to a team that won before him and after him
@mrj5695
@mrj5695 12 дней назад
KD look the coach in the eye before he wack em
@seandon015
@seandon015 12 дней назад
KD’s plan was win championships and finals mvps with warriors to pad stats and then go win on his own and that would put him into goat conversation. But turns out he couldn’t win without Steph and the warriors so he’s not even top 20 let alone a participant in goat conversations
@symeoncarter8144
@symeoncarter8144 12 дней назад
Old players trying everything to get an easy way to the finals, fire the Coach and blame everyone else , can't wait till these old heads retire
@zap7759
@zap7759 12 дней назад
Careful, if LeShrek winds up on the Suns you'll have to do a public apology and accept the Suns as your overlord
@grospipo20
@grospipo20 12 дней назад
As a nets fan! I am just looking at them picks! They shouldn’t have traded for Beal!
@9663mu
@9663mu 12 дней назад
His legacy will always be super talented and HOF no doubt but let’s be real he left his team and joined the champs. Great player but not a leader.
@jrod132
@jrod132 12 дней назад
Not Vogel’s fault I mean the GM trading away what they need the most which is a PG (CP3) trading away for a washed up Beal. KD leaving GS might have been a mistake but come on the Nets would’ve champions in 2021 if Kyrie and Harden eres both healthy and KD foot wasn’t so big
@levigersbach1290
@levigersbach1290 12 дней назад
Is it just me or is this some soft hearted criticism, and that's what separates KD from Lebron. They don't mention how it's affecting his legacy but put blame on everyone else and using them as escape goats. Hold him accountable and answer the question!
@purplestate
@purplestate 12 дней назад
Exactly.
@focuz4899
@focuz4899 11 дней назад
Only true great players are held accountable. That's why Lebron gets crucified because he's so great. If Lebron wasn't great his name would never get mentioned. Not even by his haters.
@aaronace720
@aaronace720 12 дней назад
KD be looking too cute lately
@purplestate
@purplestate 12 дней назад
Why are these guys not keeping the same energy?
@ajhandsome01
@ajhandsome01 12 дней назад
we don’t care about the coaches we care about the players…unless you’re erik spoelstra
@anirudh_cr
@anirudh_cr 12 дней назад
Coaching changes does not have to do with KD alone. Thats weird throwaway click baity comment. The whole league keep going through the revolving door of coaches. It is very rare for teams to stick with their coaches - if they don’t see immediate results. It’s the nature of the beast. It speaks to teams in the league trying to put superstars together instead of focus on good “teams” and fit trying to chase a ring. Durant is an amazing amazing player. He hasn’t fit well in Brooklyn or at Phoenix. Not all his fault. As a basketball fan - you want to see the best players in good competitive “teams”. Not just unbalanced top heavy teams
@CheefChaos
@CheefChaos 12 дней назад
Vogel was hired with the idea of coaching Ayton, Auton ended up wanting out.
@johnbrown757
@johnbrown757 12 дней назад
Dont do it Mike, go to college. Head coaching stars and not winning a title is a death sentence. Bucks, Lakers, Suns and thatbwas just this year
@Chris_Swish_OtM
@Chris_Swish_OtM 10 дней назад
Come back to the Bay KD!
@yahcrack
@yahcrack 12 дней назад
KEEP THE SAME ENERGY FOR LBJ
@zerocool7408
@zerocool7408 12 дней назад
KD looks up to Lebron. - the ultimate coach killer
@lucky889s9
@lucky889s9 11 дней назад
He doesn't have legacy to begin with other than a couple scoring champion. He got no rings and fmvp without steph
@craighendricks3240
@craighendricks3240 11 дней назад
Should have stayed with Dubs. Have some heart. Shouldn't have let Draymond run him off.
@mattchancey3202
@mattchancey3202 12 дней назад
Fun Fact: Kevin Durant plays in the NBA
@bigbreezyinthecut8207
@bigbreezyinthecut8207 12 дней назад
KD sounds like he need to go to Miami
@CasualGamerPlays
@CasualGamerPlays 12 дней назад
Kevin Durant is a lesser version of Lebron when it comes to playing politics in the NBA. Best thing Kevin Durant could've done is do what Kawhi did when he left the Spurs and went to Toronto. Help them win a chip, then move onto another team that's close to winning a chip. Not move onto a team that's going through a rebuild, to prove to everyone that you can be a leader and do it on your own. Cause he's never been nor shown that he can be a leader. Mama boys can't be leaders.
@mrj5695
@mrj5695 12 дней назад
Koach destroyer
@adeadele-nz6xt
@adeadele-nz6xt 12 дней назад
Yall say its bookers team and hes the better than KD now , but yall blaming everything on KD lol
@beobe4326
@beobe4326 12 дней назад
IMAGINE TELLING KD.. IN A SIX YEAR SPAN AFTER YOU LEAVE THE GSW.. YOU WILL BE ON TWO DIFFERENT TEAMS ONLY WIN TWO PLAYOFF GAMES HAVE SIX HEAD COACHES AND BY THE WAY YOU WILL PLAY WITH KYRIE IRVINE JAMES HARDEN BRADLEY BEAL AND DEVIN BOOKER.
@blackmoses4035
@blackmoses4035 12 дней назад
Can someone please tell me how coaches getting fired is a player issue??
@chickenmanoktae
@chickenmanoktae 12 дней назад
Because KD asked them to fire the coach
@intheshell35ify
@intheshell35ify 12 дней назад
KD got them hurt little boy feelings.
@8MunchenBayern8
@8MunchenBayern8 12 дней назад
What legacy? Everyone knows he pulled the weakest sports move of all time and can't win without Steph.
@intothefrayyo
@intothefrayyo 12 дней назад
Coach killer
@lazzi2462
@lazzi2462 12 дней назад
His legacy is VERY overrated, I mean great player but he's just not a winner. He's been surrounded by Hall of Famer caliber players his entire career, superteams everywhere he's gone, & yet the only rings he has are 2 that he can thank the Warriors for. Westbrook in OKC (Harden was 6MOY & Ibaka was Defensive 1st team during 3 of those years too, some great OKC teams), Klay/Dray/Curry in GSW, Kyrie/Harden in Brooklyn, Beal/Booker in Phoenix. If GSW didn't get KD, there's a high possibility they could've won those chips anyways. If any top 10 player had joined them those years, they too would have rings. They won before & after having KD, that alone shows how little they needed him. Having KD on your team does not translate to winning, he gets his, he'll get you to the playoffs, but yall aren't gonna win the chip. He does not carry teams to championships like other superstars have. He'd probably be ringless without GSW.
@RPYMCMB
@RPYMCMB 12 дней назад
Best comment ever! Facts💯
@HesiPullUpJimbo
@HesiPullUpJimbo 12 дней назад
They lose to the Rockets without KD in 2018
@44blinkley
@44blinkley 12 дней назад
@@HesiPullUpJimbo Lmao
@lazzi2462
@lazzi2462 12 дней назад
@@HesiPullUpJimbo We don't know that though, Rockets were just a team who relied heavily on jacking up 3's, so it just depends on if they were hot or not, as we saw in 2018 the reason they loss was because they missed like 30 3pts in a row, shot 7/44 from 3pt. Even then, the point is that the Warriors were a top championship-caliber team with or without KD, something KD fans act like they weren't.
@BadMouth6454
@BadMouth6454 11 дней назад
KD’s personality affects his legacy, nothing else. He’s a diva, and I don’t count his rings as legit. He was gifted an amazing team. Should’ve stayed with okc and probably would’ve won too
@adeadele-nz6xt
@adeadele-nz6xt 12 дней назад
Did KD play for kenny ??? Kd was injured when kenny was coaching the nets or am i tripping ? Lol
@shakazulu1322
@shakazulu1322 12 дней назад
Trade Beal for cp3. Problem solved
@David.560_-
@David.560_- 12 дней назад
Old man in a young man league
@PengxueYG
@PengxueYG 12 дней назад
bron got everyone ring chasing and coach firing lol
@redoneal0506
@redoneal0506 12 дней назад
LaBum is the worst
@cremdeniro237
@cremdeniro237 12 дней назад
KD 🚍🚍🚍🚍🚍🚍🚍🚍
@septimiusseverus165
@septimiusseverus165 12 дней назад
Both players, KD and Lebron, are weak leaders who tried and failed to be their own GMs and coaches and will retire with spectacularly fewer chips than they should have.
@gringoboy701
@gringoboy701 12 дней назад
Lebron got a chip for every franchise he's played for... how is that a failure? What have you ever done?
@44blinkley
@44blinkley 12 дней назад
@@gringoboy701 He had to bring in another superstar to do that lol. He also lost everywhere he went and had to get more help
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 12 дней назад
Facts these players aren’t great like everybody say they are
@septimiusseverus165
@septimiusseverus165 12 дней назад
@@gringoboy701 I have done nothing basketball wise compared to the worse NBA player of all time but my basketball achievements are hardly relevant to the GOAT debate. All I’m saying is that Lebron hasn’t won often and convincing enough to be in that conversation proper.
@fcc950
@fcc950 12 дней назад
i hate greeny with a passion. he can't have a discussion w/o looking to blame one single person in a team game
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 12 дней назад
You mad he held kd accountable clown
@michaelbrice5169
@michaelbrice5169 12 дней назад
KD is cooked
@350R19
@350R19 12 дней назад
Good firing 👌He was terrible
@minuii
@minuii 12 дней назад
Different mold, just pure excuses, pure yapping😂😂
@ericschmidt1987
@ericschmidt1987 12 дней назад
Going to be funny when bud is fired next year!
@gb-kq6zt
@gb-kq6zt 12 дней назад
We know Jay can't be objective
@Sunnyhoney
@Sunnyhoney 12 дней назад
These darn ladies on these man-shows speaking on male sports drives me crazy! Can they shift over to talk WNBA stuff?!
@lestercaldera3776
@lestercaldera3776 12 дней назад
Coach killer 😂
@EPP-TV
@EPP-TV 12 дней назад
Might as well come back to golden state lmfao
@RolandBullock-ej8wl
@RolandBullock-ej8wl 12 дней назад
Dude is just a moody and sensitive guy.....He's just trying to be like his boy Lebron!
@44blinkley
@44blinkley 12 дней назад
KD and Lebron are spineless ring chasers. Their careers are jokes
@HesiPullUpJimbo
@HesiPullUpJimbo 12 дней назад
Lebron dragged the 2007 cavs to the finals. What more do you want from him? If the front office failed to build an adequate team around him, how is that on him? Especially with how the media and fans constantly talk about how only RANGZ matter.
@44blinkley
@44blinkley 12 дней назад
@@HesiPullUpJimbo They built great teams around him he just failed to deliver. The 09 Lakers were worse than that, the 2010 mavs were worse than that and beat Lebron’s superteam lol
@franekbukowski5640
@franekbukowski5640 12 дней назад
First
@9663mu
@9663mu 12 дней назад
You get a lifetime achievement award! What a huge accomplishment posting first! Man you must be so proud. Awesome. Good for you.
@justaction
@justaction 12 дней назад
Yawn
@stevecurrie5632
@stevecurrie5632 12 дней назад
Bron a cry baby
@17desdes
@17desdes 12 дней назад
These people have no ideas how organizations run. Owners set cultures and organize the team not players… Lebron is awful at trying to do everyone else’s job. Look at how he wrecked the Lakers. He will never win another championship.
@xXBlackMambaxX24XX
@xXBlackMambaxX24XX 12 дней назад
Lebron led mo Williams and ilgasuskas that’s why he the goat
@nathanwills2585
@nathanwills2585 12 дней назад
Wow... they're really trying to be easy on K.D. Unlike with King James. They killed James, blaming him for bad coaches and coaching changes. James is still the G.O.A.T.
@andrewdurand3181
@andrewdurand3181 12 дней назад
KDs will be forgotten for the most part in 30 years. Old heads will say, "remember that dude that joined the team that beat him in the finals? what was his name again?"
@connorleary3080
@connorleary3080 12 дней назад
worst take lol
@HesiPullUpJimbo
@HesiPullUpJimbo 12 дней назад
Yes, the 7 footer that hit pull up jumpers over everyone hitting 50-40-90, MVP, multiple scoring title winner, and multiple time finals MVP will be forgotten about
@andrewdurand3181
@andrewdurand3181 12 дней назад
@@HesiPullUpJimbo you already sound like an old head
@TheKennyGM
@TheKennyGM 12 дней назад
They fired Monty Williams because it was hes fault they fired Frank Vogel because it was hes fault.... NBA is quickly becoming a joke....
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