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On Get Up, Andraya Carter, Jay Williams, Chiney Ogwumike and Zach Lowe discuss how several coaching changes may affect Kevin Durant's legacy after it was announced the Phoenix Suns fired head coach Frank Vogel after one season and are targeting Mike Budenholzer as his replacement.
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@jonathangodsall3010
@jonathangodsall3010 Месяц назад
KD has a complicated legacy. Lebron won a title without D Wade; D Wade won a title without Lebron; Steph won a title before and after KD; Kobe won titles without Shaq; Kawhi won a title without the Spurs Big 3; heck even Olajuwon won a title without Drexler. Dirk, Giannis, and Jokic all have titles that will be forever tied to them and no other superstar. So where does that leave KD’s legacy since it will always be tied to the Warriors dynasty?
@SaucyJellyYoutubeGaming
@SaucyJellyYoutubeGaming Месяц назад
This is facts
@yunglardastar5366
@yunglardastar5366 Месяц назад
Now dat hurts but it's true 😓
@Nyualum21
@Nyualum21 Месяц назад
I don't think its complicated at all. He is a great individual talent but he has 0 leadership skills and is not enough to be the best player on a championship team without fully stacking the deck in his favor. He's got all the talent to be a top 5 player of all time, but doesn't have the intangibles. Just like Charles Barkley said a few years ago, "he's a bus rider not a bus driver".
@pauldg913
@pauldg913 Месяц назад
durant is good player but not that special. people forget about dirk, what kd doing now, dirk has done it before. kd is just flashy with his eurostep.
@melvinhhcp3615
@melvinhhcp3615 Месяц назад
Steph's 2022 title wouldn't exist if KD had opted not to do the sign & trade, when he left GS & went to Brooklyn. Recall, GSW flipped KD into D'Lo, then D'Lo into Andrew Wiggins & draft picks (one of which turned into Jordan Poole). Maybe KD should have left them with nothing. After all, both Draymond & Bob Myers took public shots at KD after they called him first & helped turn them into a dynasty, but only SC30 gets credit for it.
@gravydoors
@gravydoors Месяц назад
Nowitzki’s ring is more meaningful than KD’s two.
@melanatedgod5337
@melanatedgod5337 Месяц назад
Facts!
@2cents250
@2cents250 Месяц назад
@@melanatedgod5337lucky for dirk that lebron choked in the finals 😂 kd didnt have that same luck in 2012 when he averaged 30 ppg in the finals. but up dirk’s stats vs kd’s 😂😂😂😂
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 Месяц назад
Not true and he played lo gest with 1 team only got 1
@yonglightning8907
@yonglightning8907 Месяц назад
It's more meaningful that the Heatle's two rings
@shawnchia3611
@shawnchia3611 Месяц назад
As far as I’m concerned, KD has zero rings
@gbone1812
@gbone1812 Месяц назад
Obvious answer Yes. Deep down I’m sure KD wanted to win without Curry. KD will always remember Draymond Green telling him we don’t need you and won without him twice
@BillyBob-ti2fz
@BillyBob-ti2fz Месяц назад
Green was speaking facts
@alvctr
@alvctr Месяц назад
We were winning before you came - add green to durant
@RD-zx6py
@RD-zx6py Месяц назад
@@BillyBob-ti2fz it's funny that it was Green who said that considering it was him who was so shook of Lebron's Cavs that he rang up KD and begged him to join them in the first place.
@noleyestoad4477
@noleyestoad4477 Месяц назад
@@BillyBob-ti2fz green was in his feelings! hes displayed that multiple times he a headcase! draymond was one of the players asking him to help with lebron you do realize that!
@BillyBob-ti2fz
@BillyBob-ti2fz Месяц назад
@@noleyestoad4477 the warriors won 2 rings without Durant they didn’t need him, but keep defending an overrated loser with a bold spot on the back of his that’s size of Texas who makes fun of little kids on twitter and can’t win anything without a 73 win super team
@quirinogarza7381
@quirinogarza7381 Месяц назад
Durant had THE team and left it to join the TEAM that beat him... That's his legacy!!
@louiehernandez1477
@louiehernandez1477 Месяц назад
That's like if Jordan would've joined the Pistons in the late 80's.
@jopinscott1777
@jopinscott1777 Месяц назад
​@@louiehernandez1477; I've said (and continue to think) exactly this.
@arthurwright255
@arthurwright255 Месяц назад
KD does not belong in the HOF.
@Snipergange
@Snipergange Месяц назад
@@arthurwright255kawhi better Then kd
@shawnchia3611
@shawnchia3611 Месяц назад
@@louiehernandez1477more like LeBron joining the Celtics and join forces with Pierce, KG, Allen and Rondo.
@agentcodybanx8909
@agentcodybanx8909 Месяц назад
1:25 Tell him Greeny. People need to stop making excuses for KD
@duffman1876
@duffman1876 Месяц назад
Thank you!!! S/O to ya C😎🍻🍺
@DrmKing11
@DrmKing11 Месяц назад
Facts!
@SPACEKNOCKERZ76
@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 Месяц назад
Hestgood. 2 Finals mvps
@goodlookinghost8364
@goodlookinghost8364 Месяц назад
Crazy man, KD has as many coaches since he left GS as Lebron ever had but somehow Lebron is coach killer and we should feel bad for KD 😂
@maceel313
@maceel313 Месяц назад
KD is player who played SF for Warriors dynasty between Harrison Barnes and Andrew Wiggins.
@2cents250
@2cents250 Месяц назад
and back to back fmvp, mvp, rookie of the year and 4 times scoring champion 😂
@doublez_
@doublez_ Месяц назад
@@2cents250that’s all good but he stole those 2 final mvps and rings
@jg4992
@jg4992 Месяц назад
The worse thing that happened to KD was leaving the warriors
@gforce55
@gforce55 Месяц назад
as crazy as this may sound because of what he accomplish at Golden State, I think a worst move in regard to his legacy was going to the Warriors. He should have stayed in OKC. That team was very close to winning a chip or 2.
@hortonc20
@hortonc20 Месяц назад
How do you leave golden state
@BillyBob-ti2fz
@BillyBob-ti2fz Месяц назад
Yep because he can’t win anything without a 73 win super team
@wilhelm4321
@wilhelm4321 Месяц назад
The worst that happened was him going to the warriors. Man will get clowned for that for the rest of eternity
@lavellesogucc1
@lavellesogucc1 Месяц назад
*Joining. should’ve never left OKC russ ending up going crazy with the triple doubles Kd needed to take a step back but wanted to be the guy. He missed Westbrook Best years lmao
@JonCom3dy
@JonCom3dy Месяц назад
If OKC Wins the title, that probably earns KD more roasting also lol
@youhoopman02
@youhoopman02 Месяц назад
And when they don’t? 😂
@melanatedgod5337
@melanatedgod5337 Месяц назад
​@@youhoopman02that part.
@noleyestoad4477
@noleyestoad4477 Месяц назад
so you want KD to get roasted because a team he left almost a decade ago MIGHT win a title!?!?! jesus some of yall are really weak minded punks!
@PWCDN
@PWCDN Месяц назад
I'd roast Clippers sooner for trading SGA for PG13 and Clippers haven't even seen an NBA finals.
@adeadele-nz6xt
@adeadele-nz6xt Месяц назад
​@@noleyestoad4477lol they just stay hating for no reason . Even when dude left GSW dey felt it for years before they won again .
@cautionigetit2436
@cautionigetit2436 Месяц назад
KD can't do it without the warriors
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 Месяц назад
Curry won nothing with durant. Every other year he just had better teammates
@Cloudcity20
@Cloudcity20 Месяц назад
he did tho lol. Ur braindead lol​@@xavierb9061
@ctd4sure
@ctd4sure Месяц назад
@@xavierb9061 Give me what you're smoking. Lol 2022 - Curry won a chip with Andrew Wiggins & Jordan Poole! Think about it. Klay was averaging 14 ppg. Better teammates. Give Curry Beal and Booker currently and see him win another chip. Y'all don't understand the impact of Curry in a basketball game
@TopDrifter203
@TopDrifter203 Месяц назад
⁠@@xavierb9061yeah keep telling yourself that clown 🤡 😂😂
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 Месяц назад
@@ctd4sure curry mvp fmvp, with durant he won nothing durant better than him ever year on same team. So only better teammates reason he won
@chiefsandwarriorslover1543
@chiefsandwarriorslover1543 Месяц назад
KD still hasn't won a ring without Steph Curry😂
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 Месяц назад
I doubt he ever will
@natureredux1957
@natureredux1957 Месяц назад
@@Nostalgia9478 So that's like saying Steph has never a won a Ring without a given Coach or all the other players on a given team he has played with. The moment KD got hurt, he was likely never going to get another Ring. However if that never happened, I assure you he would won at least 1 more. If not 2, without choker Steph in more than just 1 NBA finals.
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 Месяц назад
@@natureredux1957 Is that you, LeSkippy Bayless? Still pretending that the 2022 Finals never happened?? lol
@hortonc20
@hortonc20 Месяц назад
⁠You 🧢… 🤣🤣🤣
@ruchyl1
@ruchyl1 Месяц назад
@@Nostalgia9478 He will join his biggest fan in Minnesota.
@GeoDude24
@GeoDude24 Месяц назад
Crazy how these guys from the 2010s we grew up watching are almost at the end of their Career
@djturner-smith6380
@djturner-smith6380 Месяц назад
7:42 This is the whole point. You can't demand a trade to an organization, not deliver, and blame the lack of pieces around you for the failure. Organizations are making the trade in hopes that you make them better and deliver results. It's entirely on you.
@havefunoutthere6378
@havefunoutthere6378 Месяц назад
I'm a Warriors fan, and I certainly give him credit. He was AWESOME! Thank you Kevin Durant.
@thelonewolf7443
@thelonewolf7443 Месяц назад
Mad respect to you over there! I’m a Seattle SuperSonics fan (also been a Golden State Warriors fan since about 2004-05 & yes you can be a fan of multiple teams at the same there is nothing wrong with that). I remember the day Portland drafted Greg Oden over KD, when Seattle chose him at #2 overall and won ROTY I knew he was going a special player back in 2007. The Warriors will ALWAYS be Steph’s team, BUT during those 3 years Kevin Durant was the player on the court for them. Lastly, Jason Richardson is a legendary dunker check out his contest highlights it’s super cool and I kinda wish the Dubs would go back to their old logo with the superhero holding the lightning bolt those colors were really neat!
@NoMansLand24
@NoMansLand24 Месяц назад
This is why I can’t understand how people say he’s better than curry. Curry is the only player in this generation that has 4 rings with the same team. Lebron and kd moved around so much to be champions. Curry stuck it out with his team and won his 4th ring with his team. Curry literally changed the whole game of basketball and has a better finals record than everyone in his era. Make it make sense. Curry is the best player in the lebron era 😂😂😂
@user-lc4xh9lh7o
@user-lc4xh9lh7o Месяц назад
Because you picked up generational talent thru the draft doesn't make you better than a team that builds thru trade. Same thing happened with Jordan. They picked up Pippen and traded for Solid players. Those organisations wanted to win so they traded for Solid pieces and kept their core because their core were excellent. You think they want to pay Klay 35m this coming season? They're trying to replace him with a better player
@melanatedgod5337
@melanatedgod5337 Месяц назад
Curry will never be LeBron. I'm not a huge fan of either, but I know that.
@ctd4sure
@ctd4sure Месяц назад
@@user-lc4xh9lh7o Generational talent is a stretch please. Klay is a great 3 and D catch and shoot player. Draymond is a great defender. Good solid Robins. Curry has only played with one superstar, 1 NBA top 75 in his whole career. He makes life easy for the other guys on the court doesn’t mean they’re generational talents. When he doesn’t play, you clearly see the huge drop
@NoMansLand24
@NoMansLand24 Месяц назад
@@melanatedgod5337 so we agree 👍🏾
@victorm.mendezmedina9674
@victorm.mendezmedina9674 Месяц назад
Darvin and Vogel had the same situation. First year swept. Only difference is the Lakers gave Darvin slack since they changed the team mid season.
@I.am_Groot
@I.am_Groot Месяц назад
Ham led the Lakers to the conf finals in his first year.. Then the Lakers did another 1/2 team roster swap and never recovered. I think by the end of this season LeBron was trying to run things again and Ham lost his mind. Vogel is really the victim of a dummy owner who thinks 3 max contracts = winning
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 Месяц назад
@@I.am_GrootBron/Kyrie carried Dopey David Blatt to the 2015 Finals in his rookie year as a Nba head coach. He got fired 6 months later and hasnt gotten an Nba gig since Keep pretending that getting carried to the WCF by 2 superstars made Dopey Darvin a competent coach Try again, LeSkippy Bayless Jr lol
@justified004
@justified004 Месяц назад
The difference is Ham had more of a chance and doesn't have a chip on his resume. It's more of an LA decision than a LeBron one. LA has been going through coaches every other year for over a decade. The fact that KD has gone through more coaches than years he has been away from GS is horrible.
@NewWorldDreams47
@NewWorldDreams47 Месяц назад
​@@I.am_Groot Darvin also led the Lakers to a 2-10 start. He also had the Lakers in the bottom of the conference the majority of the year because he doesn't understand line ups and rotations. He also doesn't like to call timeouts or use challenges. Nobody in their right mind would blame LeBron for taking over, because he gets results. Unlike Darvin Scam, who Lakers fans didn't even want in the first place.
@kylebjr
@kylebjr Месяц назад
Anyone saying D ham was a good coach isn’t watching lakers basketball or just choosing to be ignorant.
@CoachRJ334
@CoachRJ334 Месяц назад
Didn't KD have the Warriors 3-1 just asking .....
@treezy7593
@treezy7593 Месяц назад
Ya they did
@natedogg890
@natedogg890 Месяц назад
More than 30 years watching the NBA and I've never actually looked forward to a player being out of the league until Durant
@XYZ_55
@XYZ_55 Месяц назад
In my opinion he was so likable in OKC. Why would he do this?
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 Месяц назад
Thats how i feel about WestBRICK lol
@MattttMan
@MattttMan Месяц назад
I feel that way about LeBron too, tired of the same narratives. Looking fwd to new ones
@jetsettech8804
@jetsettech8804 Месяц назад
​@@MattttMan you'll miss him when he's gone
@wilhelm4321
@wilhelm4321 Месяц назад
​@@MattttMan You goofy af
@carrastealth
@carrastealth Месяц назад
I think he'd regret leaving. If the Warriors came back after the injuries to him and Klay and won a Championship again when they were older like Steph did, the stories would have been changed because the comeback would have been seen a lot more difficult and against a younger NBA. Steph accomplishing it without him and KD not winning it in Brooklyn is what brought the conversation back. But if that Warriors team had stuck together, had those injuries and made their comeback to eventually win a title again, the storyline talking points would be a lot different.
@shawnchia3611
@shawnchia3611 Месяц назад
Nah he won’t regret it. He really wanna win without the warriors after hearing so much cos he know he can never live it down if he can’t win with his own team
@brooklyndecember
@brooklyndecember Месяц назад
KD got tired of fans and more importantly NBA legends saying his ring with GSW didn't count. Imagine people you look up to publicly clowning you? He said he always dreamed of playing at the Gatden as a Knick, Dolan was ready to do a rebuild around him. Kyrie said rhe same thing. But Dolan didn't want to deal with Kyrie so KD walked away and went to BK. That's when I knew he could never be a leader or a franchise player.
@carrastealth
@carrastealth Месяц назад
@@brooklyndecember If KD had stayed and they'd won 4-5 rings it wouldn't matter what the "Legends" say. They say Bill Russell doesn't get the respect he deserves because of all his rings because he had 8 hall of famers on his team but then turn around and do the same to KD. But if you keep winning, stories change over time, especially when out of your prime. Eventually they'd have been celebrated. All KD did by leaving was give them more ammo. And NOW they are saying he shouldn't have left Golden State... funny how that works isn't it?
@CA-tk8yn
@CA-tk8yn Месяц назад
The biggest problem KD has created for himself is demanding to be traded. When a team has to give up that many assets, they become thin going forward. He's now just a performer to sell tickets and merchandise, because the team can't build a proper threat around him to challenge most of the playoff teams. If he didn't know it then, I bet he's figuring it out now. He could have won a title with the Nets, but he had very emotionally challenged stars with him. He needs to remain patient and just hoop as he says. In time he'll be a free agent and then he must not do a sign and trade, because that is just as detrimental to his new teams ability to form a championship contender. It's either the most money, or a lot of money and a chance to win it all.
@ArmondJames-tk5dn
@ArmondJames-tk5dn Месяц назад
You guys should really start changing the narrative more. The entire NBA is shifting in the craziest ways and were talking about KDs coach
@etuboldon
@etuboldon Месяц назад
Kevin Durant joined a 73-9 team which had made back-back trips to the finals, having won it all the previous yr, and had beaten him in the conference finals when he was up 3-1 in the series, and was led by the back-back reigning MVP, who happens to be the best three point shooter of all time, and was paired with another all time shooting aficionado in the back court. Yep. That was the team KD joined.
@BigGroovyOg
@BigGroovyOg Месяц назад
Now if this was Lebron yall would be destroying his name. 🤦🏾‍♂️ I can’t stand social media
@jameskent836
@jameskent836 Месяц назад
They hate the greatest that’s how it is
@Heatpad.Murray1
@Heatpad.Murray1 Месяц назад
@@jameskent836what greatness? 6 finals losses?
@jameskent836
@jameskent836 Месяц назад
@@Heatpad.Murray1 a finals mvp on 3 different teams not to mention he made a 73-9 team go run to grab another league mvp player just to beat him
@alananderson7903
@alananderson7903 Месяц назад
@@jameskent836 Cavs didn't beat a 73-9 team. -Draymond suspended Game 5. -Andrew Bogut injured and out Games 5, 6, 7. He was their starting center. -Andre Iguodala hobbled Games 5, 6, 7. He was Finals MVP the year prior. 2016 was The Stimulus Package championship.
@jameskent836
@jameskent836 Месяц назад
@@alananderson7903 excuses they beat them in Oakland
@lucianharmon467
@lucianharmon467 Месяц назад
Good ball talk ‼️✔️💯
@davidfelizzatto6662
@davidfelizzatto6662 Месяц назад
Probably one of the very few times I 100% agree with Greeny
@jorgethegreat
@jorgethegreat Месяц назад
It will always go back to what Chuck said on who the bus driver/rider analogy..
@dre9900
@dre9900 Месяц назад
KD will forever be known as one of the great scorers in NBA, every other part of his legacy will be debated on forever
@bruno3
@bruno3 Месяц назад
Joining the Warriors brought him 2 championships and two finals mvps. Why would he regret that? He should regret leaving the warriors. Even with the injury, if he had stayed, he would've won at least 2 ou 3 more chips and 2 finals mvps. It was the worst decision ever.
@BillyBob-ti2fz
@BillyBob-ti2fz Месяц назад
Because it tarnished his legacy. His rings are tainted and the warriors would’ve won those rings without him. He’s a bus rider for a 73 win super team
@duvalwilliams1555
@duvalwilliams1555 Месяц назад
​@@BillyBob-ti2fz yea but what he is saying is nobody would have ever figured it out if he had stayed. People would still somehow think he was the best player and give him all the credit.
@SunniMerlot
@SunniMerlot Месяц назад
Because humans are social beings and no one really gives him credit for joining the Warriors. Who wouldn’t want others to praise their accomplishments? No matter the success he’s had the reason you’ve heard that said since it happened is because of what other humans value.
@joellejenkins9492
@joellejenkins9492 Месяц назад
@@BillyBob-ti2fzthe rings are only tainted now because he left and has been terrible with the big 3 teams he left to. If he stayed and kept winning nobody cares about none of this lol
@bruno3
@bruno3 Месяц назад
@@BillyBob-ti2fz And LeBron joined a team with 2 other superstars. Also needed a big 3 to win a chip. Why do people keep talking about the 73 wins if they lost the finals that year? It was a team that needed him to win consistently. They could win without him, just not nearly as much. So if that's tainted, let's all agree LeBron's legacy is also tainted.
@tony1876
@tony1876 Месяц назад
Durant would be ringless if he hadn't hopped on the Warriors superteam bandwagon
@OGGOAT23
@OGGOAT23 Месяц назад
Espn tried so hard to break up the warriors i still remember...same with pushing AD from the Pelicans to LA
@wilhelm4321
@wilhelm4321 Месяц назад
They should have been broken up. It was unfair
@OGGOAT23
@OGGOAT23 Месяц назад
@@wilhelm4321 and leboobs playing with 2 All-stars not? Wade bosh kyrie love
@wilhelm4321
@wilhelm4321 Месяц назад
​@@OGGOAT23Bro, I love Miami and Wade, but stop pretending they won 73 wins😂😂😂😂😂. You all need to stop bringing up Bron cause in noooooo way is what he did in Miami, Cleveland, or LA comparable.
@melanatedgod5337
@melanatedgod5337 Месяц назад
​@@wilhelm4321at all.
@OGGOAT23
@OGGOAT23 Месяц назад
@@wilhelm4321 no they just won 27 in a row 4 finals superteam not 1 not 2 not 3
@chasenickles260
@chasenickles260 Месяц назад
Draymond already clothesline durant with the, we already won a ring without you and we will win another ring without you... Can you imagine how kobe career would be looked at, if he didnt win a ring without shaq, especially since shaq ended up winning another ring with wade....
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 Месяц назад
Imagine if Bron never won without Wade
@NasirLawson-si5pu
@NasirLawson-si5pu Месяц назад
@@Nostalgia9478straight slaughter from fans, they would say wade was the better player cause he already had a finals mvp. Tbh wade was still the better player that first year in Miami, but injuries made him defer to bron.
@richpaydirt
@richpaydirt Месяц назад
Most ring chasers end up tarnishing their legacy with fans but couldn’t care less. A ring won by any means possible gives more endorsement value after they hang it up and a ring is a ring to just about any player.
@coleprivott6140
@coleprivott6140 Месяц назад
I like Andrayas point about superstars going to teams with winning cultures vs just any team
@LawezeanaS197
@LawezeanaS197 Месяц назад
Only on ESPN
@jakehm3678
@jakehm3678 Месяц назад
But lebron having 7 coaches over 21 seasons vs KD having the same the last 4-5 years isn’t as big a deal 😂😂😂
@scruffd0g193
@scruffd0g193 Месяц назад
Oh no, KD should of never left Golden St
@philb.1502
@philb.1502 Месяц назад
The Suns' owner didn't want to hire Vogel in the first place. Vogel wasn't his first choice. Vogel knew this and after the Suns' brought in Beal the expectation was to at least get to the finals. Once they got swept in the first round, Vogel knew he would get let go.
@jlroberts328
@jlroberts328 Месяц назад
First off if no one is identifying the issues with these coaches, then how many coaches someone had shouldn’t matter.
@samikhalifa6021
@samikhalifa6021 Месяц назад
“Tell me more” 😂😂 Chiney hilarious
@knell7900
@knell7900 Месяц назад
They gave dham a rookie coach a shot for 2 years but not a championship coach
@TeamDaemon1980
@TeamDaemon1980 Месяц назад
Biggest game of the season for Denver tonight. I believe if they win tonight, they can still win the series regardless if they lose Game 4. Anything is possible.
@OG725
@OG725 Месяц назад
Pat4Clippers you’re only saying this cause of your flip flopping predictions. Eddie Mush 👴🏻
@PWCDN
@PWCDN Месяц назад
looks bad losing both home court but yeah anything is possible but they'd need to win both on the road. Unless Jamal is healthy, odds aren't good for them. Odds have never been good for this team without a healthy Jamal. Guess Jamal won't be playing in the Olympics either.
@Jgift_9x
@Jgift_9x Месяц назад
KD to Warriors run it back before retiring.
@robinshaul4069
@robinshaul4069 Месяц назад
Go to the heat
@nixynox6359
@nixynox6359 Месяц назад
People can see that it’s almost certain KD would not have won a championship without one of the best teams ever assembled.
@stevechen1991
@stevechen1991 Месяц назад
Chiney is fireeeee🔥🔥🔥
@albin123003
@albin123003 Месяц назад
Alot of stars nowadays are not well educated on the trading mechanisms nor are their agents spending the time to explain it to them. What's the issue you might ask? Trading requires the matching of salaries. These stars simply think that they can name a team that they want to be traded to, and the team will insist on a low-ball offer to get their hands on the star player. It doesn't work that way. Most times, the star play is on max salary which is close to 25% of the salary cap. The team have to match that salary before they can initiate the trade! They have no choice but to gut their bench to get you! If the team was known for its bench depth, you coming in have to make up for the production, not just bringing your production but increasing it.
@AnthonyTaylorJr210
@AnthonyTaylorJr210 Месяц назад
Where was Zach when they were talking about Bron and his coaches 😅
@user-tf9tl7ew1h
@user-tf9tl7ew1h Месяц назад
Kevin Duran did what was necessary and good for him, he is a 2 time champion and nobody can ever take that away from him.
@nbarealtalker
@nbarealtalker Месяц назад
KD comes across as somebody who regrets everything. I wish he never found Twitter. Even if he’d made the same decisions and had the same career, it would’ve looked way different if he never had the time, and the burner.
@freedagod7558
@freedagod7558 Месяц назад
At this point the nba needs a coach's union for job protection from getting fired
@ryuken7999
@ryuken7999 Месяц назад
Kd is looking for another super team this summer.
@robinshaul4069
@robinshaul4069 Месяц назад
Miami heat
@robinshaul4069
@robinshaul4069 Месяц назад
Trade butler for kevin
@a.visitor8148
@a.visitor8148 Месяц назад
Anyone remember when KD was arguing on Twitter about how defense doesn't win you championships
@Millertyme233
@Millertyme233 Месяц назад
lol where's the Darvin Ham energy for Frank Vogel?
@iwishiwasthomasshelby
@iwishiwasthomasshelby Месяц назад
Only Lebron's coaches get crapped on because it's then that get blamed. But when it's Kevin Durant or anyone else, it's the player's fault.
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 Месяц назад
@@iwishiwasthomasshelbyIf the Suns players are the ones getting all the blame, then why was Vogel FIRED?? Please make it make sense, LeSkippy Bayless Jr lol
@iwishiwasthomasshelby
@iwishiwasthomasshelby Месяц назад
@@Nostalgia9478 are you stupid or something? Ishbia was clearly gonna die Vogel and he can't fire players under contract.
@iwishiwasthomasshelby
@iwishiwasthomasshelby Месяц назад
@@Nostalgia9478 I can't fix what you have smh
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 Месяц назад
@@iwishiwasthomasshelby"Only LeBron coaches get crapped on" So Vogel getting FIRED after one season isnt getting crapped on??? Lol.. Whatever you say MENSA
@testing52009
@testing52009 Месяц назад
basketball is a competitive sport, what is puzzling to me is how a guy who ran to join a 73-9 team which beat him has any fans left, it's just pathetic
@dannyblau3850
@dannyblau3850 Месяц назад
No I find it highly unlikely that KD wouldn’t go to Golden State if he had to do it over. I think the only things he really probably regrets or doesn’t look back fondly on are the initial criticisms of the decision and how things went and ended that final season. He got 2 seasons of being on one of not only being on potentially the best team ever assembled, but two rings, two finals MVPs and what’s more, the exact thing he had been looking for and wanting on a roster on the floor and seemingly what he has been looking for since. The unselfishness, the ball movement, the not having to just put everything on his shoulders. Enough so that he had the backing and energy on the floor to show he could be an elite defender.
@Veda30915
@Veda30915 Месяц назад
ESPN, you can do better than this.
@russiadavidson3990
@russiadavidson3990 Месяц назад
I applaud the suns for admitting Vogel was not the answer; which lakers' fans already knew👏🏾🖤💜💛
@toomuchdrivetothrive
@toomuchdrivetothrive Месяц назад
The funny thing about all these ring chasers - Lebron, KD, Harden, Westbrook, Irving, and Love is that they will all be out of the playoffs and the finals could be Cleveland vs. OKC. That would be the most poetic justice ever.
@cedrickcarson
@cedrickcarson Месяц назад
A famous poet once said “No matter where you go there you are.”
@key-tg1ih
@key-tg1ih Месяц назад
im not a kd guy since his next chapter but this coaching changes affecting his legacy is so idiotic
@Bman32x
@Bman32x Месяц назад
You can’t join the all time winningest regular season team the next season. You just can’t do that. Had he stayed and won 1 ring with OKC w/Russ, we aren’t having this convo or questioning his greatness. But OKC was not helping them. Only recently were they able to re-tool and get lucky with these great young team players.
@eugeneberotte739
@eugeneberotte739 Месяц назад
This should say does he regret leaving Golden State??
@MichaelRucker-ns5po
@MichaelRucker-ns5po Месяц назад
The Miami Heat, although out of the playoffs now. Have proved that it's better to not overpay for a superstar player. And field a competitive team backed by a good culture and good coaching. Even if you don't have enough to win it all.
@robinshaul4069
@robinshaul4069 Месяц назад
Durant plz come to heat , heart of champions
@balad.9757
@balad.9757 Месяц назад
I always felt like Frank changed the team culture. I never felt the comraderie in this team, or the excitement in the locker room as I did with the last coach. Just an observation.
@jopinscott1777
@jopinscott1777 Месяц назад
I truly wish he had avoided going to GS, at least adopted a "I'm going somewhere to beat you" mentality, went to San Antonio, and convinced Kawhi to stay. I'm not saying they would have won a championship, but that would have been fun to watch.
@ababiogodfred4307
@ababiogodfred4307 Месяц назад
That lady in green is always off topic 😂😂😂😂
@MrRicklynch57
@MrRicklynch57 Месяц назад
KD, needs to watch that movie, "It's A Wonderful Life". He truly did have everything he needed and wanted with the Warriors. Steph stepped back as a scorer and Kerr's offense opened up easy baskets for KD. Every player in Golden State had a role and only Klay and KD were looking to score every time they touched the ball. In Phoenix all 5 players were trying to score 60 every night. Durant only had to ball on the Warriors and Steph would be the leader. Phoenix was a bunch of ballers with no path. Phoenix was so disfunctional no one wanted to play there, and the Warriors were able to remain deep with veterans like Cousins, West, and Livingston. People like Charles Barkley got in Durant's head by saying he rides the bus. However, no one has won a championship on their own. Jordan had a Big 3, Magic had a Big 5, Russel had a Big 10, Bird had a Big 3, Isaiah had the Bad Boys. He should've just stayed with the Warriors and embraced being a Warrior like Kareem embraced being a Laker.
@alexpereira6528
@alexpereira6528 Месяц назад
Good ol JWill always protecting the players
@iamlegend1482
@iamlegend1482 Месяц назад
I think he regrets leaving the Warriors, that was the perfect fit. the media and everyone else beat him down for it
@brewer921
@brewer921 Месяц назад
The grass is not always Green(berg).
@omarp2207
@omarp2207 Месяц назад
Should've went to Miami in summer of 2016, He would have 2/3 rings by now
@robinshaul4069
@robinshaul4069 Месяц назад
He can still come
@omarp2207
@omarp2207 Месяц назад
@@robinshaul4069 I would trade everyone except Jimmy and Bam for him
@xypher321
@xypher321 Месяц назад
if kd stayed in okc, he woulda had at least one solidly earned ring. if he stayed in the bay, he might've won a few more and entered the top 10 debate. if he stayed in brooklyn, after chasing a super team in golden state now in brooklyn, he could've maintained some of his dignity by trying to do something there. but nope. he chased a THIRD super team with the suns and failed miserably. He has forsaken every good thing he ever had, and deserves his purgatory in phoenix.
@HumbleBeatsforeveryone
@HumbleBeatsforeveryone Месяц назад
A lot of the stars don't care about winning as much as we may want to think. A majority of the stars want their cake and to eat it too with coming over to a new team to "win a championship" while taking up 70% of the cap space for their team and wonder why come playoff time they're the only ones putting the ball in the basket.
@galexcabrera3449
@galexcabrera3449 Месяц назад
why aren't they talking about james jones? in any big business its the senior executives who usually get the axe when things go wrong. in the nba setting, that's the coach and gm, one is given quality players to win while the other one put together the team and managed the budget. also in the nba setting, teams can't just "terminate" a player's contract and trading away a player doesn't also guarantee that they will get equal value in return. believe you me, if these multi million player contracts weren't guaranteed then one of the phoenix big 3 would've been "FIRED" by now.
@shawnchia3611
@shawnchia3611 Месяц назад
Nah it’s all down to KD. U request a transfer? U wanna force ur way to the Suns? U wanna play with another perennial all-star in Booker? U wanna have a big 3 that takes up most of the cap? All done. Ultimately, he did not fulfill his part of the bargain. That’s all there is to it.
@Acom987
@Acom987 Месяц назад
Why we would regret winning ? Why he would regret playing in a good franchise for the only time in his career? Why he would regret being a champion? Seriously i think he does not regret any of these.
@brewer921
@brewer921 Месяц назад
If Greenberg says something is fascinating, then it's not.
@0492panda
@0492panda Месяц назад
At 7:38 greeny finally taking a pause on his ridiculous thoughts
@erik3205
@erik3205 Месяц назад
ESPN slick, they added the coach from his rookie year as part of that list. They really hate that dude.
@gmailgmail6234
@gmailgmail6234 Месяц назад
Does that not count ?
@_pinkpatek
@_pinkpatek Месяц назад
Gotta have a legacy in the first place
@gachatubers4603
@gachatubers4603 Месяц назад
The owner is aware that the coach is not at fault. He has to show the fans an immediate change to keep them engaged and firing the coach is the easiest for that .
@jonathancruz7848
@jonathancruz7848 Месяц назад
Kevin Durant is Charles Barkley if he never goes to golden state. It’s undeniable now. No chips without Steph . Bron has won ( and lost ) every where he went , with players like kyrie Irving , Dwayne wade , AD , and also bags of potato ships . KD has never taken a bag of potato chips to the finals.
@doublez_
@doublez_ Месяц назад
Jay Williams licks kd’s boots man. Man defends him to no end.
@gmailgmail6234
@gmailgmail6234 Месяц назад
😂😂
@sosarene
@sosarene Месяц назад
What legacy?
@christophers7160
@christophers7160 Месяц назад
How many times are yall gonna do the same slanderous hit piece? Oh I know….untill it sticks right. KD isn’t the only NBA player that lost in the playoffs this year and your golden boys that yall say he he shouldn’t have left, have missed the playoffs two of the last three years but Curry gets no heat for completely missing the playoffs right? That doesn’t affect his legacy
@duvalwilliams1555
@duvalwilliams1555 Месяц назад
Lol he just won a chip 2 years ago almost by himself. If K.D had done that nobody would be talking about him like this.
@JGROVES716.
@JGROVES716. Месяц назад
Durant to the Lakers!
@klemziusklm7248
@klemziusklm7248 Месяц назад
Zach doesnt like BS narratives...love it !
@DBToy
@DBToy Месяц назад
Two titles are something people dream of there’s no way you regrets going to the Warriors, and a comparison to Kevin joining the them back then would be like Lebron joing Denver next year.
@igit_7296
@igit_7296 Месяц назад
Enough about these old players. I know they make great storylines, but people like this have nothing to do with what’s going on at the top levels of professional basketball.
@jimmyconway6080
@jimmyconway6080 Месяц назад
Phoenix had a nice squad before the KD trade. All they had to do was swap out Chris Paul for a younger point guard
@piphuntington2233
@piphuntington2233 Месяц назад
The Wolves are looking like they are about to sweep the defending Champs, Sun's getting swept isn't looking so bad anymore. Give the Wolves and Ant they credit.💯
@Yajeeb
@Yajeeb Месяц назад
FYI Search *"Ryan Davis"* response to KD, and you'll be mind blown at how accurate he was about Durant 9 months before this stuff💀. They had online beef because dude told KD he doesn't know what it takes to win. KD trashed dude, so Brodie went on a 5 minute surgical roast spree that was proven true after this embarrassing loss
@charleshowardiv
@charleshowardiv Месяц назад
not true, many successful business people are successful because they are willing to take risks and not seem patient...
@haniffkhan1700
@haniffkhan1700 Месяц назад
The question is why did kd leave warriors when warriors did so much for him
@Food-is_Life
@Food-is_Life Месяц назад
These people making excuses for KD. If this was Bron they be killing him.
@knell7900
@knell7900 Месяц назад
Greeny I love it hold them accountable
@yemimatthews7110
@yemimatthews7110 Месяц назад
He should have gone to Miami on two occasions.
@meyou8141
@meyou8141 Месяц назад
This is what happens when people care more about ESPN talking points than watching sports.
@seemooremutts
@seemooremutts Месяц назад
Of course he does. He'll never say it out loud or in his burner accounts.
@henrycastellon4397
@henrycastellon4397 Месяц назад
J will desperately trying to get in good graces with KD again.
@lightsout6552
@lightsout6552 Месяц назад
The bucks issue is Gianni’s was injured. If healthy they are still playing
@jedthezed3599
@jedthezed3599 Месяц назад
They were up and down the whole season. They ran into a juggernaut that totally out played them. Which Minnesota is out playing the defending championships. I think Vogel should have had another shot at it personally.
@tdmainevent
@tdmainevent Месяц назад
Playing and winning a title with the Warriors both helped and hurt KD. He’ll undoubtedly go down as one of the greatest players but he didn’t have a choice but to leave. He had to prove himself again. The coaching changes…that’s a whole different story. He’s going to get fingers pointed at him but that’s the responsibility that comes with being a Hall of Fame type player
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