That was different bro, this is about roads, where people dont move at the same speed always and have to stop at intersections. Not like Rapid transit like trains.
India is building simultaneously everything not just one mode. China did the same thing 20 yrs ago and now we are doing it as well. These people may criticize Mumbai coastal and Delhi ring expressway projects but casually choose to ignore the much larger scale expansion of Mumbai metro(146 km) , Delhi metro phase 4(127 km) and Rrts(188 km). Hyderabad recently announced bids for another 274 km metro and Chennai is going for additional 93 km in already 119 km underconstruction phase 2 metro. We lacked every mode of logistic and transport infrastructure for decades and now we are doing every simultaneously to catchup.
Also only thing needed in urban infrastructure spending is aesthetics, maintainence, public utilities like footpaths , parks , cleanliness mechanism and drainage system.
@@programmingwithsunny6121 I'm talking about our city infrastructure. We don't have basic footpaths, lane markings and open drains. Our cities look as bad as African ones on ground except few planned townships. Jakarta did a good transformation of city with public infrastructure, road markings. Blind paths etc which we need to replicate here. Mumbai need lot of multi level parkings and hawker management
@@bpvineethkrishna9553 clean or not footpaths and markings are important. Also cleanliness maintainence mechanism. Cities like Istanbul , Jakarta and Bangkok get dirty by their crowds from time to time as well but their cleanliness mechanism keeps it well intact. Combination of both effort from public and gov would be best like in Indore.
Why don't people understand that this road is not a singular project, but a very important part of Mumbai Ring Road Project 😑. Without this Coastal Road/Mumbai Western Freeway, the Ring Road cannot work!
A simple case study Top 5 economies USA - better infrastructure China - better highways and High speed rails Germany - Autobahn Japan - better highways and high speed rail So for better economic activities we need better infrastructure. Considering indias population we can employ European model here
wong, we should apply all types of models, it totally depend on the state, some state like north easter or some where we have less population by okayish land mass, we can apply european model but UP or mumbai where we have more population in contrast to land mass, we can apply chinese model of skycrapers and highways
It also depends if we want to be car centric like USA, we would need a lot of roads If we want no cars, then trams-metros-buses can work which i find better than cars Forget infrastructure did you saw the news of UP 😡 "DM transferred after she brought water pipeline in the village for the first time in 75 yrs" F for BJP, BJP should be cursed because only they listen to what people demand, they will become a monopoly if you can't hear bad things about them, go see the news first, a true shame that she got transferred for bringing development.
@@peak_911 I guess it's working as you are saying Road transport is very much a state department and the interstate highway is Central so it's working like that Interstate highways are necessary for logistics
@@peak_911 as Indian economy is rising it will be car centric You can't stop people from buying cars. About UP First BIMARU states are always against development Before F BJP you should say F parties who ruled UP before BJP as what were they doing for 75 years that villages doesn't have even water
We are forced to use personal vehicle because public transportation is so poor. In places like Japan, you can just use public transportation to reach anywhere quickly.
@@black_dragon55ya but they still use privet transport mainly and if they use public transport it's only and only because it's cheap nothing to do with ease of use . 😂 Not saying they don't have good public transport but having them doesn't fix much .
@ind-rishiyt1600 In developed countries like Japan or some western European cities, car ownership is prohibitively expensive. A commoner will be able to afford a battery cycle at the best. So I agree with you that it's because of cost that people use public transportation. But, this helps reduce traffic congestion and keep cities cleaner. Good public infrastructure in cities means we can get to within 2 km distance of most places using the metro. Public transport infrastructure also include paved pedestrian paths on roads where we can walk safely.
The problem of difference in quality between national road projects and local projects is administration, while projects under center are finishing within deadline with good quality, we see poor road quality in towns which is not directly under center or state but local municipality. A single administration for all kinds of road with decentralized management might work, also an online complaint portal where people can click a photo of any problem on road or any transport facility and file a complaint would help to put pressure of local administration to work properly.
our main road(municipality) was build few months back(it took around 2-3months construction to make smooth roads), now again potholes, uneven road surfaces are occurring again - road quality going downwards again. our town will again see traffic congestion in next few months.
I think once enough infra built on national level , oue centre & state govt can more focus on towns, or they(Nitin Gadkariji) already studying all the aspects of the same issue, so don't be surprised in future any law made on the same issue i hopeful, Bharat/India lagging only in this factor
All things considered, it is refreshing to see an Indian infra youtuber talking about good "people centred" infrastructure planning instead of the usual glorification of car-friendly multi-lane sprawling highways which, in my view, will only make the traffic problems worse in the long run. So kudos to Powertrain for being a trend setter in this regard.🎉
how can you say this will only make the traffic problems worse in the long run, it may have problem but it can't make our traffic worse, please remove your glasses and see transparently
@@prakharshukla2775 there is something called "induced demand". Please remove your glasses and look it up on the internet. Yes, in the short time it might be helpful to create more highways inside the city limits but in the long run it will surely cause problems. The only solution is developing mass transit system like trains, which take a lot less space and are faster and have more passenger carrying capacity.
I don’t think you understand. The reason it will make traffic worse is because it will incentivize people to drive instead of taking public transit which will cause more traffic demand. Driving cars are very inefficient compared to other modes of transit bc they take up more space while transporting less people, and they require more energy per person.
Sir Delhi has the most efficient footpaths, ISBT, metro system in india as well as in world but still it faces traffic jams. I think induced traffic goes for public transpoert as well
That's true. Here the question comes to the overall designs of our cities. If, a city, even after an extensive road as well as transit network is still congested, then the problem is not the lack of infrastructure. The problem is that, people have their works far from their homes! And sadly, this is not a story of a single household. This might be the story of 50-60 percent + households of Delhi. (Sorry, no source)
As a Transportation Designer, I have to say , we as a state needs to invest a lot in the study and research of our transportation systems . India is a totally different country as compared to west , yet we are emulating everything what the west or developed nation has done , and if we don’t do those things we are saying it’s not developed. While I agree roads are important but one needs to see where,how and what public use these systems More than 60% population in India use streets to walk , or use public transportation and yet we spend more on developing roads . Metro is not the only solution , we have to invest in better buses , better ride sharing vehicles . We are just focusing on the rich, but we have to bring the rich to use public transport. We should build more railways and high speed trains instead of just expanding highways . We always look into US or Europe but we really should look into cities like Tokyo , a city which is similar to ours in terms of population, yet there are hardly any problems people face in terms of transportation
@@jestinmathew4503 all old cities in India are unplanned and very congested yaha india mai jo choote & medium size ke colony ke malik rehta hai jisme pass cities mai alag alag jagah zameen rehti hai bo bohot bekkar plot cutting karte hai jis se sara infrastructure kharab ho jata hai or wese he expand hone lagta hai pura chota city isliye chote colony's ke maliko ke liye rules and regulations laana chhiye proper greenery maintained hona chahiye and pedestrian walking tracks , wide roads , 1-2 gardens banana compulsory karna chahiye or congested house construction karna band karna chahiye tab kuch hoga
Rail projects are time and resource consuming but effective everywhere, will exist for a long long time. Road projects are economical and need a lot less time to be completed and are flexible, despite of the terrain. With such a humongous population of India, you think we could fit everyone into those public transports ? No ! Road infra development is going great, metro and rail projects are also doing good. As you mentioned; we are neither Asian Countries nor Western Countries, on that note we should be focusing on all types of Infra, which we've been since recent years. Afterall, "We shouldn't put all our eggs in one basket."
Haha present time we talk about infrastructure and development but in the past it was not even a debate . Because there was no infrastructure and development 😂
India got its indepwndence in 2014...From IIMs, IITs, AIIMS, ISRO BARC, PSUs, all highways, rural roads all got formed aftee 0214... Kuch 🐷 ke pile ayenge gyan dene for sure... 😂😂
@@yt98833 do you know how much effort they put in to get their dream college and dream job . Stop spitting shit they are still happy and living a better life than you
They will try everything to hamper India’s growth which they are doing for years. But strong public support and government stability will ensure development.
Hayden wasn't trying to downgrade us. He was just saying we should build better public transportation instead. He maybe wrong, but he had no I'll intention. Most people living in the doesn't hate us. This isn't the colonial era.
Hayden is not right but also not completely wrong. This coastal road project will affect the coastal ecosystem negatively but at the same time it will proved relief to a lot of people getting stuck in traffic.
That's what those who opposing him arguing. They developed themselves by destroying and not focusing on ecosystem and now if we do it they talks craps about
A long metro neo can be made on the edge lanes of the freeways. This will deconjest internal roads and internal roads can be used to improve walking sidewalks.
Short answer:- No Long answer:- It depends but majority among them says that making highways inside cities and stuff is generally bad idea. Most comments are made by Americans who experienced this mistake firsthand that single-handedly destroyed the train infrastructure and make it very expensive in repairing the infrastructure, not just roads but all of these due to dependency on roads, they are warning us not to do it and to be honest we need to be listening it
The problem in America is that development followed the highways, once the highways were built people starting building houses in suburbs farther and farther away from the city because they could drive to work in the city. But in the case of the Coastal Road, it's simply connecting already populated areas that have poor road connections.
India can't really follow America because our urban planning is completely different. It's divided very plainly into subrubs and the downtown while India is a very dense mess. Our main problem is the poor walkability in cities and weak last mine connectivity in metro cities.
Its too simple:- Focus on building Public infrastructure more than roads. But this doesnt mean don't build roads. Only the focus should be more on Public transport.
living in mumbai what I hate the most is blockades on road contruction for metro, just imagining the headache a redevelopment of any patch of road will cause is painful. I hope these seaways will provide alternative road while we redevelop existing roads.
Public transit RU-vidrs usually hate highways and roads in general, not just in India. However I do agree that people (many not all) outside india really hate anything related to Indian growth. Any infra project you do- we did it way ahead, it’s not that great, you build digital infra (UPI)- the govt is trying to control money, cash is best, you grow in space science- first build toilets. 😐 We can’t please everyone, might as well focus on ourselves 🤷🏻♀️ 😌
Most of those commietubers are from Anglo countries with disproportionate influence of cars and road transport. People don't even use bikes there. You won't see Europeans, Japanese or Koreans talk like that since their countries balance highway growth with public transportation.
Your thoughts shared in video are quite right. We should make cities more and more public transport centric with decent todays for exit of city, while outside cities should be more truck or car centric (not completely of course) to travel between cities and regions. Reduce car use in cities and maximise it outside cities.
@@ananditasaxena1411 maximize for freight and logistics transport capability and increase good’s delivery speed to ports, rails and airports. U can look at examples of china, usa & europe.
American cities is the perfect example of car centric planning. Almost there is no public transportation services in USA compare to other developed countries.
I think this video has hit the nail on the head. I don't think till a criteria of 2 ready-to-use public transport projects for every road project is set we will see a difference.
5:55 I Agree PT because, in Bangalore ORR, old airport road are best example, in fact the choking is due to road suddenly getting narrow and wider instead of being proportional everywhere.
problem is ki internal roads,footpaths local corporators banata hai jiske upar jyada dhyaan nahi rehte toh waha corruption easily hota hai. jabki bade projects pe sabka dhyaan hota hai toh usme corruption bhi hard hai aur time delay pe bhi log question karte hai isliye wo ban jaate hai. so ek naa ho paye uske liye ham dusra bhi naa kare iska koi sense nahi banta
Hnn bilkul sahi kaha city wagare mei new road bhi bnne chahiye but public transport per jada focus karna chahiye kyuki new road kuch time tk rahat degi traffic se phir 10-15saal mei situation wahi traffic wali aajaegi
Main problem is will power of state government. Central gov showcasing will power and had security of power that's why they are developing big project with long term view
In Mumbai govt need to stop giving permit for personal cars.. that goes for Bangalore, Delhi and Hyderabad also. Beside mumbai need faster rail connectivity with thane, kalyan, Navi Mumbai, Virar etc for which semi high speed trains are needed. Flyovers for congested crossings absolute necessity.
India is a developing country, we'll have more car owners in next few years because of the our increasing middle class people. We must need these roads, flyovers and expressway, No other country on the planet can understand our scenario. We are with 2% of total land of the glob with 17% population.
We shouldn't see new countries like the USA, we should look at Japan or Europe for ideas. They have older cities, these countries have these freeways, highway infra and great public transport (something US doesn't). Indians don't have problems like Americans, who are too much in love with cars, Also Newer transit systems are way better than any public transport in the USA, and most importantly clean and safe. Also, there are continuous plans to improve the suburban rail in Mumbai and other cities and new suburban systems in Bengaluru are going to be modern. Let's, learn from other's mistakes and DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO AS PER OUR NEEDS. Also, note that the US is undergoing an anti-car infrastructure "cultural" revolution, where their public transport activist simply declare their interstate systems as some kind of evil (in certain ways YES) and overestimate public transport.
Agree!! They won't ever tell how amazing the road infrastructure in Europe actually is!! Germany is actually super attched to cars obviously, but still has great infrastructure. The main problem with USA isn't even the highway and car, but the parking spaces allotted to cars which Mumbai simply doesn't have. Driving a car in Mumbai sucks and that alone makes people use the local rn. There is also almost zero parking in Older regions. We simple cannot be car centric in Mumbai, we just don't have the space to be😂
U said about the speed of the projects. I will share information that Greenfield has fast land acq. And less constraints rather than brownfield. One of the major issues is to get all the clearance for the projects.
Our priority is to congest traffic not to develop sight seeing infra it seems ridiculous it’s only going to effect those who are at top but the congestion reduction is going to help everyone.
Just make fantastic, vast rrts and metro system throughout metrocities and tier 2 cities in India to get the traffic out of roads so the logistic vehicles get friction free journey. Also deploy high level public transportation system like E buses so that people prefer those over personal cars
Actually even the "induced demand" theory is disputed. For more understanding checkout the "the two big economic lies you still believe" by economic explained video published on 17 april.
one thing is for sure though, roads are needed but the speed that metro lines are being completed is terrible... there needs to be more investment into expediting train lines because the need is so great... thousands of people die every year due to the unsafe and inadequate reality of mumbai's trains... this needs to be fixed first as a priority
i live in hyderabad and i totally agree with you here we had the PV narsima rao flyover a 11 km long flyover built way before basic bridges across roads so usually big expressways are bult before basic roads and the mess that is created while building these bridges and flyovers are another story
I will highly suggest my Indian brothers to not take these trolls seriously and argue with them pointlessly. They won't try to understand no matter how much we give them straight facts,let's use most of our energy in transforming India and fully help india to be a golden bird. The dogs will bark while the tiger is asleep 😀
Bhai aap samajh nahi raha hai. No matter how many highways we build it will be crowded if we don't build public transit infrastructure. Besides look at that abomination, we could've built some nice beach view infrastructure where we could spend some time. Instead, what is this monstrosity we have built
@@Neethinify Marine drive ka naam suna hai Juhu beach suna hai Bandstand suna hai Bhai public transit bhi hoga ye shuruaat hai Baaki agar mumbai me car se travel nhi Kiya to shant rhne ja
This moment I would appreciate BCLL (Bhopal City Link Ltd) ,, they've really improved public infra too much and MC had equally focused on Roadways also
Man I wish Mumbai to get developed similar to how Amsterdam, Netherlands has done their urban planning with Public Transit and People friendly walkways, regulated 20mph E-bike and cycling lanes. I feel that Amsterdam's urban planning is the most practical especially for densely populated areas as cars won't takeover and spaces can be conserved rather than it being reserved for planning an unproductive space for a car parking lot and other complications that burden people who don't have car. I personally feel that car centric cities fail economically as people don't go ever even notice local shops and businesses while in their car they go to and from one planned place to other and a car effectively transports one to four people while majority of others become second class citizens within their own cities as they don't own a car as cars are expensive, traffic is insane and overall it is a a lot of vehicles are a burden for the future residents and the future urban planners as they would scratch their heads on how to divert and solve traffic Traffic congestion as nothing would work because every last method has been applied and more properties demolished to widen up the road but the problem itself car-flation. Logistics also get affected as trucks are stuck for hours and hours in car traffic. Car centric cities overall are bad. Roads are good for solving logistic issues and goods and material transportation and for emergency situations like ambulance and fire department but for every individual to drive car is overall a bad decision. I am not against roads but against car centric cities.
This won't happen since Indians are the biggest Ameriboos. Its somewhat of a "America has the best paying jobs in software engineering so America must be perfect / idolized for everything". This is a flawed thought process / mindset.
Dude Mumbai cannot be a car centric city even if the BMC wants it to be!! Because for car centric you need one thing- parking. Parking is the worst in the SoBo! I have literally taken cabs multiple times even thought I had a car parked downstairs. But Mumbai traffic and roads are very bad and western line did need a direct route.
We need Better Trains ( High speed , Metro Trams ) . Highways are like Paisa , jitna banao utna kam . Trains are the best . Build more & more High Speed Trains like China. We don't need more Pollution . Look how Delhi's AQI dropped to 40 when G20 was happening
Train for citizen and road for private like Japan with nice planning it was good😊but our city and town are not well plan now but i hope our city well plan in future for good ❤
One problem with our road engineers is that they change the turning radius of road very abruptly. And also they change the height of the road according to the terrain and doesn’t keep it consistent.. They must instead design in such a way that there should be long radius of curvature along with the perfect banking angle for designed speed and also for future high speeds.. and the must keep the level of the road constant from source to destination and also keep in mind the low lying areas so that the road height from source to destination is always a few metres above the low lying areas in the path.. And most important off all, the road markings! We tend to not mark the road accurately and also we mark expressways with short lane markings… short lane markings will make us feel that we are moving very fast and doesn’t provide the comfort of safe driving at high speeds.. so that also must be properly marked… And it’s safe to give buffer zone beside the road so that if a vehicle loses control then it must not go and crash into a tree or a divider.. instead it must move on a rough path or grass so that eventually the vehicle must stop but not abruptly. And finally we must use high strength concrete and steel i section beams instead of concrete ones.. so that they look beautiful and minimal rather than huge concrete pillars with concrete I section beams.. If all these principles are followed then out roads will look world class.. like autobahn
The infra that will affect most people should be the one that needs to be prioritized and put on a fast track. Things such as upgradation in rail network, metros etc, are lagging behind the development of national highways and roads. One can argue that at a city level, roads will benefit the upper strata of the society more, but at a national level, highways are very important for transporation of goods, creating hubs, and help in creating small economic parcels. There's no doubt, basic infra development is lagging behind, as internal roads, paths and the likes have taken a back seat. And as long as this is not improved, congestion will remain a problem.
I am an ardent fan of driving and cruising at high speeds all day long. Inter city travel especially between important cities has improved a lot but i agree, we cant keep all eggs in one basket. I would take example of Hyderabad and its outer ring road. Unlike other cities, this one's actually on outer perimeter of cities hyd and sec. City has come up with great infra over the years and delivered projects pretty much on time. But here is an observation, road traffic has incresed exponentially as well. Anyone who has been livingbin hyd will agree that area near IT belt- gachibowli, fin city, kondapur, hitex, madhapur and kokapet need a robust metro which is like rapid metro of Gurgaon. The roads in these areas although broad get traffic congestion. Today, to avoid this congestion, if we take ORR, its takes 40 mins to reach office (27km) which used to be about 28 mins just 6 months back. Progress attracts more adopters and that then leads to new infra projects to tackle it. The loop goes on.
In view of Largest and Highest Population density, Integrated water management and land development is required. Protection and conservation of fertile and irrigated both agricultural land need priority.
Boston had this sort of coastal roads but they demolished these roads and Shifted traffic underground. So that, Boston citizens got clear waterfront view and wind coming from the sea. It’s healthy & sustainable unlike Mumbais new development.
Boston is tiny compared to Mumbai, there is no comparison in the traffic issue. If you can save 30 or 40 minutes of driving time daily for 1 or 2 million people, that is more than worth the cost. Also there will still be a shore promenade.
Even being an Indian, I hate that fucking monstrosity they did with Mumbai's waterfront especially that big ass interchange near Haji Ali. The entire project should have been underground and use the land reclaimed from sea as public space also since it's reclaimed land it wouldn't be that costly either because you can always use cut and cover method.
What we need is a unified navigation system that streamlines traffic via inter-coordination between decices. They will suggest the speed that the driver should drive his vehicle.
In India, even the most isolated villages are linked by various forms of transportation. If there's no train available, there's usually a state-operated bus connecting these villages, even if it runs just once a day. And if not a bus, then there are alternatives like hand-pulled rickshaws or even bullock carts! This level of connectivity contrasts starkly with the situation in the US, where not having a car can severely limit your mobility options.
Mumbai has over 2.5crore population. We need such infrastructure asap. Also being the financial capital we need such roads. Also there need to be more coaches in suburban railway/Mumbai local and Metro
Anyone who thinks building a highway in Mumbai is "excessively car-centric design" knows very little about Mumbai's circumstances. For a city of this size and density a minimum amount of road infrastructure is an absolute must, it looks excessive to an American but that's because no American city comes close to the density of Mumbai, which is 3 times that of even NYC
India Must and actually is focusing on multiple things at once, you also see a lot of development in public transportation section. Which is needed, slowly however I think we need to move from private car ownership to AUTOMATED, On demand vehicles, LIKE Share cabs etc, that will be highly premium public transportation on roads. Which will replace the private car phenomenon. This will prove to be affordable as the service, maintainance & fuel costs Will be imposed on the service providers & riders can get subscription based rides.
What India needs is, actually a right proportion of Public Vehicle and Private Vehicle on such infrastructure! And guys, not all foreigners are like this. There's just a new trend where people want "walkable" cities. A lot has been there on YT And Yea... I feel myself a bit inclined towards walkability. I do think that construction of highway will result in a denser car centric society. But I also think that the projects which have already started should not be stopped like this. I mean, what's done is done, LET'S PLAN THE FUTURE!
India which is a densely populated country with limited land, needs walkable roads. We also have to invest more in public transport such as metros and buses and make roads for walking too.
@@shatzco Agreed. But that's not the only thing we should be focusing on, in the urban design. Today, we can see Delhi, where there are a lot of wide roads, expressways, peripheral highways etc, and also has a very extensive transit network. Yet it suffers from congestion. The reason is : People live very far from where they work. People have to travel 8-10 kms to get to their workplace. And this fact, generates the need of transportation. Making homes near from the workplace, will reduce the need of transportation to some extent.
@@dakshhcr2574 see you must understand, if someone lives in a city we should be able to walk, if we build roads like USA we will end up building more houses by the roads thus causing more longer distance, the problem is India is inefficient in everything. Look at China and the Marvel of metros and buses, they plan ahead but Indians plan for today. If fancy roads like coastal are built the rich will buy more cars to enjoy the roads rather than taking a bus or train. If India wants to develop we should first add more buses so traffic is less and make those buses air conditioned, same with trains and metros, the cost will eventually even out and turn profitable. And even if it's not profitable, this public transport system will help the GDP grow as people will travel for work etc and also not harm the environment due to car pollution if an individual travels.
@@shatzco I completely agree And at this point I completely bet that you also watch 2 or more RU-vidrs who make content on walkability 😂. I am also against usage of cars and I also understand how cities become livable after cars are removed. AND I ALSO WATCH RU-vidrs who support walkability. I just low-key support Mumbai Coastal Road because... Well, Opposing it after construction is almost completed, doesn't make sense. But yes, We can surely oppose the future ones, and also appeal to govt to not go the wrong way, by just investing in road infrastructure. I really appreciate you writing a complete essay on that anyway. Thanks. Also, wanna become friends :) ? (Obviously just casually, I won't be sharing my social media IDs or phone numbers )
They juxtapose their views on US's car centric ecosystem to India. I dont think they hate India or anything, just that they hate highways.... Though India is working on roads as well as train simultaneously, both of which are important....
The coastal road project phase 1 should have been Bandra to Kandivali.... Most companies have moved away from South Mumbai... The major traffic in the rush hour is between Borivali to Bandra.
We need everything to succeed. Good metro won’t work with good last mile connectivity on road. Good road connectivity where public transport won’t work. Build roads, metros, local urban trains, buses, footpaths/bridges/crossings, cycle paths, dedicated bus lanes. Even then traffic will never reduce, it’s just that there are more options now.
Usually highway within city causes induced demand, which gradually start choking connecting roads. US had seen it already and now started dismantling it. Check Alaskan way viaduct in Seattle. They now dismantled it, brought it below surface and revived seafront for general people. Currently in Mumbai most internal roads are already choked and coastal road will be an alternative. This will be supporting for not very long period and it will again have all the problems of Western express highway. Internal roads are to be corrected, should not allow sky scrapers where connecting roads are not sufficient and need more public transport. Also Mumbai need to make more east west connectivity rather than focussion in north south .
About Railways in Mumbai, I have a small peeve. Railways and Roads are not really built in Mumbai to complement one another . neither are most bus routes built in sync with railways. eg Dadar Station is a Major Station on Both Central as well as Western Railways but till recently, there is no bus service which ran perpendicular to the train routes, forcing most people to use Taxis. now there is just one AC bus from west side station premises towards Worli depot. else there is no direct bus service from Station premises to Siddivinayak or Chaityabhoomi. one has to walk out of the station, walk through crowded spaces to reach the bus stop.
@anuragxthakur share taxis ( Dadar St - Siddivinayak) charge Rs 10 per passenger, they carry 7 passengers ( eeco version of regular mumbai's taxi) so fare is 70 bucks per trip. so if one takes a regular taxi, the fare is barely above the minimum fare ie 28- 30 rs so these taxis are literally earning 40Rs extra per trip. agreed that 7 passengers does cost extra in CNG usages, but still, 40 bucks per trip is quite a lot considering that at peak times, they can have 20-30 trips per day. one can be sure that there are a lot of extra people who take a cut from the earnings of these taxis. if a bus service is started at Rs 5 per ticket, all these extra earnings will be lost. so no one is bothered about starting a Bus service on that route.
Dude, expressways are needed for the industrial development of the country. The Golden Quadrilateral provide benefit to the Delhi NCR region, You can compare it by the last 20 years' GDP growths, Industrial output, job generation or any development parameters. But continuing development only on Delhi NCR or Bengaluru or any already developed urban clusters will just increase the living cost of those areas. Now, it is time for us to utilise our skilled workforce who live outside those areas. For that, we need to develop new infrastructure like roadways, expressways, logistics parks, DFCs and other means all across the country. Like, We already have good road connectivity between Delhi and Mumbai but we still to develop the Delhi-Mumbai expressway because it passes through one of the most under-developed regions of the country. By doing this you bring the industries to them and development can spread out all over the country.
Exactly, public transport is very important, but if you can't drive around a city without wasting 1 hour in traffic each time, that city is going to be hindered in terms of development and economic growth.
public transport is improving with so many planned metro stations, which will reduce congestion. for city like mumbai which has not many options, coastal road is the only solution. coastal road will also take the inner city traffic, so inside the city it should be much better after all these projects are done
In last 9 years current indian government doing fantastic job towards development of roads railways air water ways energy and defence sector is key for industrial revolution logistics. Digital economy is one of best work done by current indian government. Digital economy Electricity @ railway Vande bharat Port development Border roads Varanasi mathura agra tourism development 17 cities now have metro , DFC Airport development Good work list is endless Good work by current indian government Before 2014 rate of infrastructure development was slow. New express ways
Roads are not just for private vehicles to move around. It is required for industry. We have much higher logistics cost than other countries. Rail and waterways are cheaper but more complicated to incorporate in your logistics. Good roads level the playing field within India and between India and other countries.
You forgot about logistics, uf we dont have infra how are we going to trabsport all goods from one place to another? Infra directly impacts employment in a city. Cimpare employed people 15 years ago and now. How many industries were setup post infra push. Have we been able to reduce overall cost of logistics in India?
I’m not sure about Mumbai but I’ve seen roads being built in last 7-8 years where there was not even a proper kaccha road for last 50 years. The penetration of roads have drastically increased in Indian suburbs and remote areas.
Biggest problem is you have zero traffic rules. on top of having few options for travelling. Walking and cycling are not viable options in most of India due to the lack of road safety. So you have to use auto's, scooters, etc. There's even zero viable foothpaths with good connections. If they are there, street vendors, bikes, cars, etc. take them up. Or they are filled with trash. There's 2 very good options for reducing traffic gone right there. Metro's are excellent but once again, lack of sidewalks means there's times where you have to take auto's or something just to get to your final destination when you could've walked there had there been proper sidewalks. There's nonsensical driving. If you have no rules that you follow while driving, how can you expect traffic jams to not form? And then you also have people just buying more and more cars. The roads are still not well maintained or planned well. On top of having no pedestrian infrastructure, people are forced to cross the roads at peak hours causing further jams. Then those road cleaning trucks clean roads at the worst times possible.
I think this one sealink should be enough for mumbai after the sealink mumbai should add more metro and BRTS with functional underground areas when reaching an intersection
Being a Mumbaikar...I am happy that the goverment is coming up with multiple ways of transport as till now the Only to ways to reach mumbai was local trains and Highway...which are already choked to the neck
Yes, i agree with the fact that our country requires more and better quality road in local areas of the city. I do agree that we need public transport in more no. and efficient. We need to make this type of overbridges and free ways as Indian GDP And population is increasing and more purchasing power than earlier. Middle class has more money than earlier and we need more roads for easier access and smooth transit. Govt. Need to equally focus on these areas.
I don't know why many people think that this road will only benefit car owners. In MMR we have BEST, TMT, KDMT, VVMT MBMT which are public bus transport systems of various municipalities. On top of that we have private buses taking commuters to work. One of the biggest issues in MMR is transport trucks congesting inner city roads and such coastal roads will ease that traffic for sure.
24x7 Service of public transport is the solution to traffic jams and reduce private vehicles. So that service is available at any time to any location.
Well Take Netherlands for example!! Focus on Public Transport which in really not tha bad here, Make Suburban areas walkable so less people use their cars or bikes, and in the end work on metro or a on time public transport.
I agree ki Coastal Road, MTHL important hai mumbai ke liye lekin government ko aisa bhi ek rule rakhna chahiye ki Public transport bhi inka use kar sakti hai. Mumbai me har kisim ke pass apna khud ka private vehicle nahi hai aur agar hota to trains aur buses itni rushed na rehti. Agar itne bade bade construction mumbai ke public ke liye plan ho rahi hai aur woh mumbai ki public transport use nahi kar paa rahi to woh kis kaam ki. For e.g. Bandra-Worli Sealink par itne saalo ke baad kuch Buses chal rahi hai jo ki public ki demand bhi nahi hai woh bus bhi ek premium service hai jo mumbia ka har ek aadmi uska faayda nahi utha sakta. Wahi agar sirf private vehicles in sab plans ka use kar sakti hai to Local trains, Bus rushed rahengi hi.
