Do or Don't: Warhammer The Old World 

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The biggest pro of Warhammer Fantasy is that the Emperor actually has a Warhammer

Oh mighty, Settra... Great King, the Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of Nehekhara, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Steward of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Emperor of the Shifting Sands, He Who Holds The Sceptre, Great Hawk Of The Heavens, Arch-Sultan of Atalan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of the Desert Gods, Breaker of the Ogre Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnal Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Unliving Jackal Lord, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer off Reddittras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of Usirian, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Khemri's Legions, Seneschal of the Great Sandy Desert, Curserer of the Living, Regent of the Eastern Mountains, Warden of the Eternal Necropolis, Herald of all Heralds, Caller of the Bitter Wind, God-Tamer, Master of the Mortis River, Guardian of the Dead, Great Keeper of the Obelisks, Deacon of the Ash River, Belated of Wakers, General of the Mighty Frame, Summoner of Sandstorms, Master of all Necrotects, Prince of Dust, Tyrant of Araby, Purger of the Greenskin Breathers, Killer of the False God's Champions, Tyrant of the Gold Dunes, Golden Bone Lord, Avenger of the Dead, Carrion Master, Eternal Warden of Nehek's Lands, Breaker of Djaf's Bonds, and many, many more...

Hey Beastmen fans, look! It's your new game system (I am so fucking sorry)

PancreasNoWork : Nagash is great! Settra's Model : So... You have chosen poorly glued death.

"One wrong, put right." -thorgrim grudgebearer

Even during a demon apocalypse Lord Kroak just did his thing. Deciding dying was cringe and returning to shove miniature suns down the throats of demons as easily as popping skittles into his frog mouth

So much Bretonnia art in this video. This must be your favourite faction...

Man pancreasnowork. You are truly the warhammer fantasy. The ghal maraz

With Warhammer fantasy revived will we ever get a video on Vlad Von Carstein?

GW going back to Old World like EA going back to Steam. "Where did that bring you? Back to me."

"But wanted to do that with Charlemagne and Legolas." Pancreas UNDERSTANDS me.

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Pancreas will like Old World's good guys, because they're 2/5 Elves. On the other hand, they're also 1/5 Bretonnians, so I don't know

The release of the old world had me refresh the paint of my Bretonnians (the superior army as you know), and invest €100 in base adapters and materials to make glorious new movement trays. And I hadn’t even procured the books yet.

The acknowledgment of the sleeper in the gotrek and Felix book made me so happy. I have always wondered what that horrifying thing actually was

As someone who missed the days of Fantasy but fell in love with the Tomb Kings lore, the release of The Old World fills my cold, mummified heart with joy.

22:58 The sleeper was one of those things that, when I read, felt that every attempt to imagine it would require a trip to a mental hospital

"Have to go thru thousands of drunk winged hussars" it's not only an accurate description of Kislev, but also a decent part of Polish history.

I think one unaccounted for lore con for the Old World is that is it SO jam packed with stuff, there is little room for making something new. "Oh you want to create your own homebrew force within the Empire? Sorry, that small plot of land is actually occupied by Sir Shittenfarten, Twelth of his name." Now since it is a prequel this is less of an issue than the old fantasy setting, but it's still far harder to insert your custom force or custom campaigns in such a small (comparatively) world that already has a lot of lore.

You probably know this already but the only other bit of Araby lore that I can think back to is that one of their sultans at one point was named 'Jaffar', who summoned genies to maintain his power. Also, apart from being where Clan Eshin was trained and where Grimgor wrecked the 'Dragon-Fleets' or whatever, Nippon is also known for having characters called 'Sanyo Kawasaki' who wields a sword called 'Toyota ', and his dear friends 'Nissan' and, I shit you not, 'Honda Suzuki'. And that's not even mentioning the 'Pygmies' Jesus Christ!

"Who is the lady of the lake?" *Laughs in elvish*

How to assemble metal models: Step 1: Acquire Drill Step 2: Acquire Pins Step 3: Learn what a Dowel Joint is and love it because that is your life if you want this model to stick together.

HAIL THE MIGHTY! WITH TATTERED SAILS AND INCREDIBLE TALES! LUTHOR HARKON SHALL BE REBORN AND BRING ALL HIS GUNS AND SONGS TO OLD WORLD AGAIN!

oh cool a new video "sees length" well there goes my evening

Bro, one "forever patient" to another, I fucking feel you on that not built for fightin' an winnin' bit.

"If you play Bretonnia I think less of you" What's that? I can't hear you all the way up here on my flying griffon. :)

you specifically pointed out that its DWARFS not DWARVES and then proceeded to use dwarves repeatedly less than a minute later simply amazing

8:00 the dwarfs still mastered the winds of magic. Instead of channeling it through people (which is highly volatile and dangerous), dwarfs bounds the winds of magic in the form of runes. This mastery led to creating of protective wards that could dispel magic within an entire city or fortify city walls to enchanting powerful armors and mighty weapons, including one of the most powerful weapons of the Old World... Ghal Maraz aka Skullsplitter aka THE Warhammer.

17:39 that Mori Calliope horse meme was uncalled for bro😂

I assume the Don’t section will consist entirely of “play Bretonnia”

24:13 A dwarf with a rocket launcher is a simultaneously hilarious and very concerning concept. 🚀🏃‍➡️

You didn't do Lord Kroak justice lol, but God it's good to see Fantasy again

Time for Brettonia to retake the field.

0:42 "have sold out almost entirely immediately" - and then immediately sold on ebay by the scalpers.

Orcslayer was my first Black Library Novel. 'Fall in sons of Karak Hirin, there's sad work to be done' still gives me chills.

I’m suprised that they brought the Old World out with the neutral faction (Tomb Kings) fighting the only faction more evil than Chaos: the French.

The fuckin mori calliope image got me wheezing

For the Lady! Bretonnia is back!

I've played 4 games of ToW so far after only a year of playing "table top wargames" in the form of 40k. Which, admittedly is a very small amount. This 4 games are some of the most fun I have had in a tabletop wargame.

My only hope is that the Old War brings more nuances to Chaos. The original Warhammer fantasy Chaos Gods were actually complex. They weren’t one-sidedly evil. You actually saw the good sides of the chaos gods. Khorne had a WIFE and wasn’t a mindless butcherer. He preferred blood to be spilt in battle rather then in the massacre of defenseless civilians.

"You're also not a Tyrannid... I hope." *nervous chittering noises*

Pancreasnowork makes a video on my sick day? Such is the power of Nagash.

The Old World coming back is like my childhood giving me a hug. I absolutely love it.

I'm looking at that Ork kit and my brain says "Combat Patrol: Snake Bites is fucking crazy dude" and now I wanna start a green tide army.

Just when I had forgot the Mori horse thing im reminded in a warhammer lore video of all places

Bretonnia rocks

The bear cavalry was something invented by Total War the terracotta were also smaller in older lore. Also it wasn't just Estalia that crusaded against Araby but Tilea and the Empire too. Estalia also has pirates. I also think it's frustrating how they dumbed things down to just good and evil in Old World when it was far more nuanced with good people in surprising places.

Howdy Mr.@PancreasNoWork. I've been a big fan of your videos for a while now. They remind me of the humor from old 1d/4chan where I'd originally read up on Warhammer lore. I'm curious if you'd ever make Any Do or Don't videos' on these factions?: .Chaos Daemons in 40k on tabletop. (I know you don't like Khorne on tabletop, but it would help some of us Daemons players who like mixed daemons). .Hedonites of Slaanesh. .Death Guard. .Leagues of Votann (not sure if you'd covered them, and I know they're newer, but hey). .Necromunda .Sisters of Battle. These are merely suggestions however, I do enjoy your videos so keep up the good work!

Honestly at one point it felt like GW was trying to smother Old World in the cradle. Hopefully it selling well will stop that.

"He died! He just decided that wasn't important and just kept on truckin' " had me in stitches!!! Great vid as always!

I had the OG Tomb Kings, and I couldn’t help but fear the future. Given that it’s GW, and what they did to my sigmarines, it’s a fear that doesn’t leave me

Nice! Maybe do Sisters of Battle Next?

"I just can't seem to be able to glue Settra's model together!" _Such is the power of Nagash!_

17:42 damn, had to do it to the reaper

That Mori reference was gold lol

17:37 Molesting horses. Mori. That checks

A cup for old world.

fell in love with it when you first spoke about it, but by the time I could buy minis, they moved onto age of sigmar, so I got my fix with warhammer total war. now that its back, I can finally see high elves kick the teeth in on mommy morathi and her burn patient son

I liked your bit about the fact that you know the end times are coming and will end badly is like Star Wars. The only thing I would say is it’s not like watching the clones wars even though you know order 66 is coming, it’s closer to watching Luke saving the galaxy knowing that 7,8,9 are coming

This is like WOW releasing classic and I’m here for it

In relation to the War in Heaven, I have a question for you as well as anyone who wants to answer. Do you think that writing what happened would benefit the setting or worsen it? My main concerns are this: 1: This is the company that wrote the Endtimes but also turned the Horus Heresy into basically a breakdown of "everyone has daddy issues so now we must fight" and I'm not sure I trust them to do justice to something like "the reason everything in this setting came to exist". There's no way anything they do will live up to the hype. 2: I learned recently of a term I have come to like, called the Noodle Incident trope. Based on a small series of comics from Calvin and Hobbes where the author never actually said what the noodle incident was but showed how terrified Calvin was of people knowing about it happening as well as being punished by his parents if they found out. The author noted that any explanation of what actually happened would lower the effect of the joke because the fact we don't know means our imaginations can run wild on what could make Calvin so upset. So the power of the unknown is rather powerful in defining something for us that can turn into personal narratives on how important or devastating something truly was. Could the same principle be used for the War In Heaven, that us not knowing keeps the possibilities open? 3: The movie Han Solo is a full detailed breakdown of all the cool things Han Solo did that he referenced casually in the original films. And all of them are lamer than the implications. Now that we know about it, it also sadly undercuts how cool Han is because we know through a lot of his stuff he was scared, young, and kinda an idiot rather than a badass doing stuff because he knows he's got this. If the War In Heaven has similar stuff for say, the birth of Khorne happening during the War In Heaven, wouldn't that damage Khorne in his modern setting if his creation was kinda just...lame? But these are general questions, I'm curious as to what everyone else thinks. And if you want to discuss them of course but I doubt it. Either way, I'm really glad the Old World is around again. It's good to see these old factions, and I wish it nothing but success.

Metal models require more prep than plastic. Lots of soap + water + toothbrush. You will also need to pin many metal parts to one another, otherwise many bonds can be strengthened by hiding some tissue/toilet paper in a space between them as a "cement/grout" between the parts. Superglue + baking soda is also amazing, but will leave a messy texture so should be used for gap-filling in less-visible parts of the model. Putty is also your friend. Good luck! PS: Painting metal is not unpleasant if you correctly clean/prep and *prime* the model. The only issue is how easy the paint is to chip off... but the solution to that is good varnish.

I really hope they go with 2 timelines where chaos failed and one where it leads to age of sigmar

Okay serious question how much money for you to do a video about coveant verse helldivers 2

For the first time in a while I can stand behind Pancreas's arguments. Welcome back Pancreas. The subs didn't taint you.

If you're having problems gluing you metal minis together, you can scratch up the connection points with a knife tip or file. That helps them glue together a lot easier.

Today was my birthday and this was the biggest possible coincidence of a video

I'm hoping CA just goes with timeline plots and essentially have Fantasy reach the end times but this time Carstein isn't an idiot and the forces of order/destruction defeat Chaos, preserving the world and characters so they can have their wars/conflicts continue with the remnants of Chaos still existing but this time actively have to try to win rather than being given all the god-powers as they are actively cut off from those gods now. They can still have AOS in the "timeline" where chaos wins, and another one where they lose.

Settra would like to remind everyone that he's not done running over Nagash with his chariot like a Grand Theft Auto civilian yet as Nagash obviously doesn't have enough skid-marks on his face and also has the most punchable face (Barring Manfred, who is also a problem caused by Nagash's face) in the setting according to Settra.

Snorri wants beer actually makes me cry…

All hail Setra! He has returned!!

The Old World still has no Dogs of War...Until the day it does, I shall be a disappointed man.

Im not surprised fantasy sold so fast. Sonetimes just sometimes people prefer generic fantasy like classing mountain hold dwarfs, high elfs and such.

This video makes me want to kickstart my Old World army(ies). Was going to wait for the Empire and see if a majority of them would keep their pre-Cities army refresh prices (most were under $35), but maybe speed up getting square bases for my Beastman and finishing them. So many decisions to make and all thanks to this video.

Fuck man, this was a great video. I've been walking the sideline lately about getting into Warhammer as my adult hobby since being enthralled with it as a young teen. Now, 37 and with a mortgage, I think im ready to take the leap into Fantasy Warhammer.

23:15 Another one the End Times kinda screwed up was if Sigmar is actually a god or not.

I was going to say you missed Nippon, but their lore can be summarised as "A bunch of weirdos in the east on an island of warlords".

Try pinning and greenstuff when assembling metal minis.

the age of mythology OST in the background is a nice touch

17:38 Is that the second holotuber we’ve seen on this channel so far?? And no Skaven Bae??

Love the whole video

I'm grateful that I'm taking Orcs instead of Tomb Kings. I even managed to start it by buying the Bonesplitterz units. Though mostly the savage orcs and two shamans were on the Warhammer site since the pigs and Big Boss were already out of stock, I did get the Big Boss through other means, thankfully.

I will say aos chaos dwarves seem pretty likely in the future, which might be why they're legends- like the demon, lizardmen and skaven. (coping wanting a good aos dwarf faction)

26 year old dude here. They took my childhood game from me. I was 11 when i started, 16 when i lost it. _I'm not sure they deserve my forgiveness._

Its funny GW deleted the old world out if percieved lack of popularity. Only for the videi game versions to sell so well they rerelease them. Makes me wonder ifcit wasn't m9del price instead affecting sale's.

Dude I’m so glad this game came back The war of the beard would make an amazing movie/show

I’m going to need to request more Athena cameos in your videos from now on

As an old grognard who grew up with metal models (pinning Lich Lord Terminus, hell, most of cryx's early multiparts was an ordeal) I think it's likely a skill that has withered due to plastic production, but should be learned. Kids these days *shakes her fist at the sky* Also, for proper sweeping battles, I suggest you look into Warmaster. Epic but for fantasy (and wonderfully supported by the 3d printing community)

Such is the power of Nagash

I feel like I speak for a lot of us when I say your videos are the highlight of my RU-vid day

Its really cool to hear you going on about how you thought you'd missed out on fantasy because i was in the same boat, only got into warhammer during 2020

I could never like 40k more than fantasy, because 40k doesn't have skaven.

I was there when GW burned Fantasy to the ground. I was overjoyed when I learned about the old world's return, until I realized that my two main armies are on the 'legacy' list. Needless to say, my disappointment was immeasurable and my wallet will remain closed. Hope the rest of you have fun with the setting, tho. You really can't go home again.

My favorite fantasy/aos faction is the cocaine rats with laser guns that at best have loose aesthetic ties to WWI......that probably says all it needs to abt how much of a history buff I am, probably won't pick this up but, I'm glad it exists for people who will enjoy it

Just stumbled across your channel with this video, great Old world video!

Ah, yes, the return of the SUPERIOR Warhammer!

For the legacy armies, most of their models are available through age of sigmar, Chaos dwarfs being the only real outlier. As for rules? Pretty much every tournament outside of Games Workshop is electing to ignore the legacy restriction and allowing legacy armies to play same as everyone else. Because making legacy factions was stupid. And yes, building Settra is pain.

Damn! Your videos are bloody good! Informative and entertaining as hell.

I think the biggest lore positive for The Old World is the possibility of the End Times being revisited. Thanks to Total War Warhammer, Kislev and Grand Cathay have become major factions that play an integral role in the setting. They now can't simply be killed off within a few paragraphs like they were originally. Unlike the Horus Heresy, there are plenty of other factions that were originally obscure in the lore can be expanded upon as a way to prolong the game's lifespan, such as the Snakemen of Kuresh or Tilea and Estalia to name a few examples. Plus, with more Fantasy characters making their way into Age of Sigmar, it would be of GW's best interest to create a coherent plot that can act as a proper transition to Age of Sigmar while also leaving enough room for new factions and characters to be brought in.