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Dr. Robert Sapolsky and Dr. Andrew Huberman discuss whether we have free will and our ability to make choices.
Dr. Robert Sapolsky is a Professor of Biology, Neurology and Neurosurgery at Stanford University. Dr. Andrew Huberman is a neuroscientist and tenured professor in the Department of Neurobiology at Stanford University School of Medicine.
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@HubermanLabClips
@HubermanLabClips 6 месяцев назад
This clip is from the Huberman Lab episode "Dr. Robert Sapolsky: Science of Stress, Testosterone & Free Will." The full episode can be found on RU-vid here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DtmwtjOoSYU.html
@davidsingh6944
@davidsingh6944 4 месяца назад
Why are scientists so ignorant?
@IAmButWhoIsMiltonProstley
@IAmButWhoIsMiltonProstley 4 месяца назад
Dr. Sapolsky’s grave misattributions of persistence and consequentiality demand that he respond in this manner…”He has NO CHOICE but to do so…he can do NOTHING ELSE. His agenda is recognized, understood, noble, and his method to accomplish his goal, flawed. There are no “NPCs” but he is caught in a mosh that he can’t escape. Good luck!!😘
@marcospqx
@marcospqx 3 месяца назад
Ider u believe in destiny or free will, both are impossible to prove one must exist.
@patriciaadducci6549
@patriciaadducci6549 2 года назад
Someone told me that Baruch Spinoza said (around 1650) that people believe themselves to be free because they are conscious of their actions but unconscious of the causes of those actions. Makes sense to me! And I also like how Sapolsky explains it. It's quite liberating, actually. Less internal conflict.
@MiauZi69
@MiauZi69 2 года назад
No. ^^ Its rubbish and makes no sense whatsoever if you think serious about it. And that is also the reason why nearly every philosopher believes it. And just one question to you? Don't you feel that you have agency and freedom to what you choose? So why do you believe the opposite, although you clearly *experience* (!!!!) the opposite every day? And why does he discard those experiences? On what grounds? Only because it conflicts with his materialistic and nihilistic worldview.
@patriciaadducci6549
@patriciaadducci6549 2 года назад
@@MiauZi69 It seems you would agree that our subjective experience is shaped by belief, just as belief is shaped by experience. My beliefs have changed over the years, as has my experience of 'agency' and 'freedom'. Far from a nihilistic worldview, this change has increased empathy and my ability to deal with pain, as the person below states. This change has not resulted in a belief in determinism, and I think that is a crucial point. Determinism implies a self which is a static entity. I've looked very carefully over many years and I see no such self. Do you?
@MiauZi69
@MiauZi69 2 года назад
@@patriciaadducci6549 Yes. Very clearly. And your statement, you don't see /experience your own self and you do not suffer from nihilism, is quite some mental gymnastics.
@patriciaadducci6549
@patriciaadducci6549 2 года назад
@@MiauZi69 The tangled web of lies which has indoctrinated our thinking has us living in a constant struggle of mental gymnastics until we surrender to the obvious fact that there is no independently existing self. Nature simply doesn't work that way. Decisions are made through complex processes which are largely unconscious. Having faith in those processes leads to effortless action. A very nice way to live! What does your 'self' look like? Is it a static entity, a collection of memories, a flow of events which are constantly shifting and changing? Or -- ???
@MiauZi69
@MiauZi69 2 года назад
@@patriciaadducci6549 whatever. You just chose to ignore the obvious fact in front of you, by having trained yourself to ignore and reframe it. I once also believed things similar to what you stated, hence I know I can't reach you.
@yourpersonaldatadealer2239
@yourpersonaldatadealer2239 2 года назад
To everyone who’s read his book, listened to this podcast and Sam Harris’ on the same topic, congratulations on being at a new historical viewpoint, much like the realisation of the earth not being the centre of the universe. I think it’s vital for us to get this knowledge out there for increasing empathy and dealing with pain.
@rohansimon5307
@rohansimon5307 2 года назад
I completely believe this too!
@mr.knownothing33
@mr.knownothing33 2 года назад
So true 💫
@thechrisofalltrades3449
@thechrisofalltrades3449 2 года назад
@guttergrown was here He's only 'oppressive towards muslims' because he uses them as an example (and usually it's extremism). His point surrounding it makes a lot of sense. The general idea being that believing in imaginary things has been a healthy thing for the human species, but today it can be a brainwashing mechanism to do more harm than good, on an objective level.
@thechrisofalltrades3449
@thechrisofalltrades3449 2 года назад
@guttergrown was here I'm pretty sure he wouldn't make an exception for 'buddhist bombers' because they are buddhist and not muslim lol. It's the concept of being able to be convinced of something fictitious that can cause suffering to people that don't have the same beliefs. I'm not agreeing with bigotry either. I see the conundrum where if you don't draw a line somewhere in what people ought to or ought not to believe, it can severely effect the lives of others. He is not using a broad generalization to dehumanize everyone, he is using it as an example of where religion can be harmful and misguiding for humanity on collectively good level. I think it's a fairly simple concept and stands on its own two legs. The fact that someone could be the smartest person in the world, but believe that if they destroy the entire planet they are fulfilling their god's wishes -- this is an extreme example, but hopefully this gets the point across of why there could be a problem here (if religion is never checked).
@thechrisofalltrades3449
@thechrisofalltrades3449 2 года назад
@guttergrown was here I think he's just exploring what he believes to be true. I don't like the idea of picking on a group of people, but it's also not okay for certain things to have immunity to criticism. I see potential for abuse and I think it's better to debate about this topic now than wait for someone to really abuse religion as a way deceive people into harming others outside their tribe (knowingly or unknowingly).
@djEjsrmfldna
@djEjsrmfldna Год назад
"Striving to be better human beings is still a worthwhile endeavor, do I have that correct?" Robert Sapolsky says "Absolutely" to this question. I think Sapolsky should've said "I guess striving to be a better human being is a worthwhile endeavor. But whether you have the desire to strive to be a better human being isn't up to you, though."
@RH-ti2dp
@RH-ti2dp Год назад
Hippies with PhDs wanting to not feel guilty about anything. What a disfuncional world they and the brainwashed lemmings who lap up their ludicrous lies will build.
@brh2222
@brh2222 Год назад
Correct.
@brh2222
@brh2222 Год назад
The guy is so advanced he was probably just humoring Andrew.
@HaycravingHorse
@HaycravingHorse Год назад
Agreed.
@ZiplineShazam
@ZiplineShazam 10 месяцев назад
@@brh2222 Yep !
@Ironeth
@Ironeth Год назад
If I'm understanding this correctly, I cannot simply choose or will myself to feel better, more motivated, etc. However, the RU-vid algorithm that exposed me to Huberman led to the awareness of, for instance, early morning sunlight's effect on dopamine. That consolidated memory may affect my behavior tomorrow, thus resulting in my feeling better and more motivated. Thus, I'm changing my behavior and brain chemistry, but all of it is due solely to external inputs and does not require a will separate from that.
@jondrayper8780
@jondrayper8780 Год назад
Did u even listen?
@susanfletcher5564
@susanfletcher5564 8 месяцев назад
If material reality results from consciousness, and there is evidence that this is so (eg non local perception, near death experiences), then no matter how far back we follow the chain of material causation, we can act independently of it - ie free will.
@honkbrother8000
@honkbrother8000 3 месяца назад
​@@susanfletcher5564????????? Is this implying the universe was created by consciousness?
@satyakisaikia3056
@satyakisaikia3056 3 месяца назад
YES ​@@honkbrother8000
@AllAboutChess1977
@AllAboutChess1977 3 месяца назад
Well, did you listen carefully to the end from 7:09 to the end? I think he mostly plays a word game. We can chose (!) to condition ourselfs in such ways that we will respond differently next time to a stimulus. So because the route to change interjects "self conditioning" then we are no longer talking about free will. Really? I think that is equivalent to saying: Because I can not will my self to become stronger it is not an expression of free will to go the gym and VIA that become stronger. I think the choice to self training and self conditioning IS free will. I understand why 95 procent of philosophers disagree with him :-)
@annaczgli2983
@annaczgli2983 Год назад
Bob's response to Huberman''s question @ 2:51 is my favorite part. 😄
@S-C-Music-Studio
@S-C-Music-Studio Год назад
that's so simple indeed: you are free to learn, once you have learnt it becomes your nature, free will streched over time of life
@danzwku
@danzwku Месяц назад
think you meant 3:51
@weston.weston
@weston.weston 2 года назад
I ❤ this excerpt of the discussion with Huberman and Sapolsky. Huberman is so humble and focused during the discussion and Sapolsky, per usual, is one of the best science communicators.
@anakides
@anakides 3 месяца назад
But… he’s not. He’s just over-confident.
@JTheTeach
@JTheTeach 3 месяца назад
He seems reasonable and to have deeply considered the issue. Is there some glaring loophole in his argument?@@anakides
@anakides
@anakides 3 месяца назад
@@JTheTeach Not a loophole; he just makes unscientific assumptions about the interpretation of quantum mechanics. It is not deterministic as far as we know. In order to prove that, we would need to find hidden variables. And so far, there have been two separate experiments that have shown there are no hidden variables (Bell’s theorem and the 2022 physics noble prize). Also, he seems to have never heard of the free will theorem, which proves that free will is compatible with currently known physics. For some reason, so many educated people are totally clueless on this issue.
@grimreaper8528
@grimreaper8528 3 месяца назад
I was just thinking about this recently, about how indeterministic things get when looking at it from a quantum scale. So far I don't know the surrounding perspectives on it from the scientific community, and it also makes it quite difficult to grasp because I've only been well versed in philosophy and not the intricacies of science.
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf Год назад
Love this convo from two of Stanford’s finest! Thanks for all you both do!
@Ziifit
@Ziifit 2 года назад
Oh my god this was one of my most favourite podcast from the Hubermanlab podcasts. I can't wait to read Determined when it gets published. Thank you Dr Huberman
@gabriellugmayr2871
@gabriellugmayr2871 2 года назад
Whats "determined"? A book?
@Ziifit
@Ziifit 2 года назад
@@gabriellugmayr2871 yes
@KODAMAS
@KODAMAS 2 года назад
@@Ziifit I tried finding it. Cudnt. Would you pls link the book here? Thanks.
@Ziifit
@Ziifit 2 года назад
@@KODAMAS it hasn't been published yet.
@tahoforbreakfast
@tahoforbreakfast 7 месяцев назад
It's finally out! Determined came out today! :)
@intorpere
@intorpere 2 года назад
Striving to be better human beings is a worthwhile endeavor, to the extent that you're capable of learning that, capable of acting on it, and how you do so. Still, it all comes down to circumstances, internal and external, and not some causally independent free will.
@jeffjohnson8624
@jeffjohnson8624 Год назад
i am a firm believer in situational ethics. it is only a matter of which side of a weapon you are on. either way, i will side step out of the way. i mean no one any harm.☮
@jeffjohnson8624
@jeffjohnson8624 Год назад
i am a firm believer in situational ethics. it is only a matter of which side of a weapon you are on. either way, i will side step out of the way. i mean no one any harm.☮
@jeffjohnson8624
@jeffjohnson8624 Год назад
i am a firm believer in situational ethics. it is only a matter of which side of a weapon you are on. either way, i will side step out of the way. i mean no one any harm.☮
@mertonhirsch4734
@mertonhirsch4734 7 месяцев назад
The argument against free will is generally explained as, either the universe is causally deterministic, (the past state determines our "choice") or it is chaotic (our state or "choice" can't have any predictable affect on the future). The problem with this form of the argument is that quantum physics currently only allows the possibility that the future, while limited by the present, can NOT be determined by the present state. The determinations of the Bell theorem demonstrate that there are no local hidden variables present that determine the probabilistic paths of particles through the universe. So there are myriad of different paths that all of the particles in the universe can actually take and the information required to determine those paths is not hidden somewhere in physical reality. If we appeal to non-local hidden variables, then we violate relativity and vivify retro-causality which has the same problem since the paths of particles could be determined by some information that isn't present in the universe "yet". If we appeal to the multiverse model then we can have a physicalistically deterministic manifold, but we can't explain or determine which path through that manifold our conscious awareness will observe. So, our experience of the universe is NOT and can not be physicalistically deterministic. That doesn't mean we have free will, but it does undo the general form of the argument against free will since our state is probabilistically limited by the past AND our state probabilistically limits the future. Our state is not physicalistically determined and our state is not merely chaotically effective on the future. Sapolsky starts with a biased presupposition that our thoughts and awareness is completely explainable by the physical state of our mind which is a) circular (he is using the physically limited mind to prove the physically limited mind) and b) not true, there is randomness in our thoughts that is not determined by the physical history of the universe prior to those thoughts. If Saploski's statement "I don't think we have a shred of free will" is true, then his conclusion was either inevitable, or random. Both of those invalidate the concept of someone having a "true" or "rational" conclusion because it makes those terms logically superfluous. There is no test that Sapolski had been free to perform prior to making that statement that could have distinguished between his statement being "True/rational and inevitable" or merely "Inevitable." Doesn't make it false, but puts it outside of the realm of rationalism. At any rate, he clearly holds to a form of physicalistic determinsim which is excluded by randomness. The real argument against free will is one of agency, but all physical models today make a universe with free will indistinguishable from one without it.
@XHuntinatorX
@XHuntinatorX 3 месяца назад
Excellent!
@emsagro12
@emsagro12 3 месяца назад
Yes, Saploski doesn’t get quantum physics. On top of that, even if free will was an illusion, it does not matter for us as human being. We still need to put hard work in order for our brain to come up with the best ideas.
@JTheTeach
@JTheTeach 3 месяца назад
I don't quite follow some of your reasoning. Using a tool to measure how inadequate the tool is is not circular fallace, its a fact of life that happens and has happened. Thats how we come up with better tools. I understand the analogy was to the brain examining its own processes, but the Premise of this process being comparable to a circular argument is not good in construction. Secondly I don't think your premise that there are random actions of thought in the brain is a given. Every single thought may indeed be able to be traced to first particle movements. I know that would be an incredibly complicated thing to model but it seems computationally possible.
@XHuntinatorX
@XHuntinatorX 3 месяца назад
@@JTheTeach This is something that I used to think about when I was a child “Where do thoughts come from”? I mean that initial spark that sets it in motion. if you trace it back far enough it’s source is undoubtedly immaterial. It is “information”. So then, what is “information”? Whenever I ponder this I am left with only more questions.
@mertonhirsch4734
@mertonhirsch4734 3 месяца назад
@@JTheTeach 1) I am not saying he is using his physically limited mind to deduce a physically limited mind. I am saying that his premise that he is positing that the mind is utterly physically deterministic by positing that the mind is utterly physically deterministic. That's purely presuppositional, but can only be confirmed by showing that the outputs of the mind can be determined by the state of that mind/universe system at any point prior to that output. 2) The experiments regarding the Bell inequality have shown that the state of the universe does not deterministically cause probabilistic outcomes unless they violated general relativity, and also enabled retro-causality (faster than light action). The processes of the mind can be traced to particles, but can not be determined by particles/fields without getting rid of general relativity and requiring retro-causality.
@MarianneHMiettinen
@MarianneHMiettinen 8 месяцев назад
"Either from experience or making to the end of the right neurobiology class has thought you that change can happen within a framework of a mechanistic neurobiology. You are now more open to being made optimistic by the good news in the world. You are more likely to be inspired by this or that. You are more resistant to getting discouraged by bad news - simply because you know understand, it's possible."
@kennethhsu249
@kennethhsu249 5 дней назад
I learnt from Dr Sapolsky that we are still within the grip of mechanistic neurobiology though we can learn to change our response to environmental stimuli. So we have no free will. But it is still worthwhile to learn to change our response. It is enough for me.
@ataraxia7439
@ataraxia7439 Год назад
So much human cruelty could be avoided if we really embraced this idea. Every person whose ever done something bad is on some level just unlucky and still worthy of love and every good thing we’ve ever done isn’t something we need to take credit for as being better but something to be grateful for because of the good luck of having the right combo of genes and environment.
@TheLifeOfNurse
@TheLifeOfNurse 9 месяцев назад
Exactly! It seems so simple to me, but people want so bad to think they are better than others because of "insert answer here", or those people are poor because they didn't work as hard as me...on and on and on. I feel like if someone can understand why more tall people are good at basketball than short people, they should be able to possibly comprehend this point.
@Englishracin
@Englishracin 8 месяцев назад
Why does believing in determinism make people think they will be more empathetic. People still are morally responsible. They made the conscious decision and action despite possibly not having control of what led them to make such decision.
@acfangaming
@acfangaming 7 месяцев назад
This just implies that bad people are bad because they were raised or were in an environment that way. It’s not a far leap to then conclude to eliminate deviants then an elimination of people i those circumstances seem logical
@Rowe104
@Rowe104 7 месяцев назад
How would this end human cruelty? According to this guy- they would have no choice to choose to end cruelty. Also then r we not suppose to punish and jail those who commit crimes
@ataraxia7439
@ataraxia7439 7 месяцев назад
@@Rowe104 Sapolsky still believes people make choices and that the consequences of those choices can have meaningful significance. He just doesn't think people can make choices in a way that's ever not entirely the result of things they had no ultimate control over. He also thinks we can justify punishment when it's necessary for the sake of deterrence or keeping dangerous people away from harming ppl but that it can't be justified on grounds of basic deserts or anything other than the goal of harm reduction.
@not_elm0
@not_elm0 2 года назад
This is the most fascinating freewill explanation I've ever encountered!
@MiauZi69
@MiauZi69 2 года назад
It is utter rubbish.
@raydkii
@raydkii Год назад
Definitely changes the meaning of free will from the individual to a power greater than ourselves
@Sirdud2SickK
@Sirdud2SickK Год назад
@@MiauZi69 because...
@ScienceNerd3336
@ScienceNerd3336 Год назад
@@Sirdud2SickK He can't see how he definitely doesn't have free will. Here, ask him this: "Did you truly feel like you made a choice yourself?"
@icantthinkrn
@icantthinkrn 4 месяца назад
​@MiauZi69 how? Please elaborate. You can't just call it rubbish without a proper argument.
@lewisalmeida3495
@lewisalmeida3495 4 месяца назад
Thank you for having Robert Sapolsky on your podcast. Robert Sapolsky’s insight that we do not have free will and that we are determined is provocative and true. Question for Robert, have you read, studied, and understood Spinoza’s Ethics? I too understand that free will is an illusion. I have studied Spinoza’s philosophy communicated in his Ethics for over 50 years. Spinoza wrote his Ethics during the 17th century; however, his books were banned due to contrary religious beliefs. Spinoza understood that free will is an illusion and that we are determined by the laws of nature. Spinoza’s God is Nature, a non-anthropomorphic being.
@supersaiyanzero386
@supersaiyanzero386 7 месяцев назад
I absolutely adore Sapolsky's book Behave and I am preordering "Determined".
@kali542
@kali542 10 месяцев назад
menopause took me hostage and changed my personality completely. I am a Buddhist chaplain, and I became suicidal and maybe even slightly homicidal when I was estrogen depleted. Now I am on prescription hormones that make or break me. I lost my free will when my ovaries quit at age 43! It really made me question reality in general.
@tb8827
@tb8827 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing. I had similar issues during menopause and have come to understand that prolonged stress leading up to and during the process is to blame (environment plus biology).
@supersilverspacesean3372
@supersilverspacesean3372 Год назад
At seventeen, I seriously questioned free will, and by thirty-six, I knew. After beginning my quest to truly internalize the idea, I moved on to discover we are not separate but one, and not a perceiver but perception itself, a single consciousness being squeezed through the divided pores of water and stardust. Now, to address the Fermi Paradox- they'll come when we're ready, when the large majority of us (as opposed to
@abhijitsikder6578
@abhijitsikder6578 Год назад
True
@petersubbiah
@petersubbiah 7 месяцев назад
Bro what's the purpose of your life and why is it the purpose of your life?
@katehiggins9940
@katehiggins9940 7 месяцев назад
@@petersubbiahthere’s no “purpose”. that’s the freedom! nothing needs to happen.
@whitneykeen3561
@whitneykeen3561 8 месяцев назад
I think there is an omitted strand of the determinist position here, which is that this implied capacity to become "more sensitized to optimistic stimuli" is itself fully determined by the set of prior conditions in one's anatomy (neurochemistry, psychology, etc) in its interactions with the external world. Therefore it's not possible for all, and such experienced optimism is therefore no more a choice than the experienced pessimism that preceded it ( but conditions the shift IN SOME PEOPLE towards optimism). Our desire to feel better about me, about the world, etc is not something I MADE, but something arising in the construction that neurobiology and its environment have created. Those engines are not "MINE" from some supervening place.
@mattgraves3709
@mattgraves3709 Год назад
I agree he has me with the "show me the free will neuron" but as a recovering alcoholic and addict am also curious about how I was able to break those patterns, If not for free will.
@manelsalido
@manelsalido Год назад
Congratulations!! I think that your wonderful and positive change was due to your wish for your well-being and your loved ones was more powerful than the suffering you had to stand for stoping drinking. Same as any other decision, a matter of how strong different impulses are. Congratulations again for your ability, stamina, and ressistance.
@chelseachen265
@chelseachen265 Год назад
Hope you’re recovering well now :) A lack of free will doesn’t mean you can’t desire something, e.g. recovering from addiction and having a better life, it just means that the fact that you have this desire, this determination, is the result of some external influences, as Sapolsky said, changed by circumstances. Basically, you can decide to think/act a certain way, but this decision must be influenced by something before, even without you knowing it. Fortunately you already have this desire to quit! Good luck with your recovery :)
@nickfindsgold9788
@nickfindsgold9788 Год назад
I have a similar history and I like to think of it in this way. Compare the addiction to a Cancer. There are people walking around today with Cancer who have no knowledge of it as it has not yet impacted their lives. I have suffered as a result of my own behaviour. I found help, had my problem diagnosed, then sought treatment. Knowledge of a problem and that it IS a problem is the driver of change. Some things have to be experienced, I hope that doesnt diminish the effort you have gone to, to make such a positive move. Well done for coming out the other side 👍
@thegreen2504
@thegreen2504 Год назад
Were you exposed to any new information, experiences, therapies, help groups, books etc. that helped you achieve sobriety? If you hadn’t had those experiences or been exposed to that new information would you still have gotten sober? It’s not to take away from what you did, as someone who struggled with addictions themselves its definitely not easy but did you choose to become an addict? If not why do you think you can choose not to be an addict? You might have chosen to try a certain substance or behavior, but the vast majority of people who try an addictive substance don’t become addicted. I don’t think the people who do are simply “choosing it”
@mattgraves3709
@mattgraves3709 Год назад
@@manelsalido thank you! I didn't do it alone, and it is a continuous process and effort that will likely never end for me, but my life is so much richer for the true friendships I've gained on my journey. Thank you so much for such a lovely comment!
@gidi1899
@gidi1899 2 года назад
The place of "free will" in our considerations is "holding" 5 thoughts. And while those options and the tendency of choosing any one of the 5 is completely without your control, you do still have a choice. It will feel like a "free choice" or "no choice" depending of the situation and all the way back to the past. So, If you are looking for "free will" you should do the research and look from the now to the past, and learn about yourself and how to encourage more "free will" rather than the other.
@mealtime5091
@mealtime5091 2 года назад
Ok I looked from now to the past and learned about myself and encouraged more "free" will rather than the other. Now what?
@gidi1899
@gidi1899 2 года назад
@@mealtime5091 The conversation should move to "how to encourage?", If you have successfully found a way to generate the auto-feeling of freedom within those 5 options in all situations..... you should (as far as I know) be saturated by "feeling you have options and you are the one making them" -"free will". To the question of how to encourage? 1. consider a repeating situation in life, and one that lacks the feeling of free choice. 2. investigate the event - over the spectrum of influence from the past to the now. 3. maybe you need to fix an "understanding" to feel more free 4. maybe you need to change your behavior within the situation to open up options... myself is still investigating hope it helps
@gidi1899
@gidi1899 2 года назад
I want to add a reference that I feel is one of the keys to be able to generate the feeling of free will: Check out "Hunter X Hunter" chapter 8, "Decision × By × Majority?" Gon & his friends faced a "no good option" situation, Gon mind state provided him a vision of a "new option" that was not only missed by his friends but also they were not open to the possibility of a new option. One can understand something new that completely changes his feeling about being free. amazing human quality.
@AtypicalPaul
@AtypicalPaul Год назад
I always enjoy listening to Robert sapolsky. I would love to hear a debate on free will between him and someone over it.
@RH-ti2dp
@RH-ti2dp Год назад
Why? If life is meaningless, I mean just go tickle yourself, eat, sleep, repeat. No?
@edgarzuluaga4896
@edgarzuluaga4896 Год назад
@@RH-ti2dp 😂 tickle yourself wake up bro it’s yo subconscious that is god mind soul same thing remember your god only you
@RH-ti2dp
@RH-ti2dp Год назад
@@edgarzuluaga4896 free will is a gift from God. But one can reject this “pearl of great price,” as you apparently have. Thus are the dogs and worms, the robots and the clods of dirt.
@dillonsharpton5952
@dillonsharpton5952 4 месяца назад
The knowledge of determinism is very useful and is itself a cause. Once you realize your choices are determined by the your circumstance and more importanyly, the information your brain has, then it can cause you to start choosing better for yourself. It will cause you to seek more information before making a choice. Knowledge is the true freedom we have to gain. Only then can we rise above our lesser and misinformed selves.
@mooseminddayan4650
@mooseminddayan4650 4 месяца назад
Very interesting point.
@Somberdemure
@Somberdemure 2 месяца назад
Not at all. If everything is determined, so as it is claim, then nothing matters and we shouldn't strive to be anything more than what we are "destined" to be.
@dillonsharpton5952
@dillonsharpton5952 2 месяца назад
@Somberdemure Yes I agree that we would still be subject to the circumstances that determine what knowledge we have. Perhaps free will lies in the unsolvable quantum mystery of why electrons appear in multiple places at once. Perhaps free will is nonphysical and our consciousness is what drives everything. Either way, we make choices. Determinism would not make life meaningless. It would just mean that it means nothing to us, but it may mean a great deal to whatever put us here.
@soheylsajadi5494
@soheylsajadi5494 2 года назад
you know these kind of facts at first seem to be disturbing but a knowledgeable person explains these things beautifully you can imagine how much were are connected to this world it is fascinating how our brain just tricks us to change and go beyond limits by just looking at algorithms we in the of video i came up with this idea that our perception of world is very permeable and there is no stop point in getting information from the environment.thank you professor it was the first time i was watching you previously i had listened to your podcasts😄
@bswantner2
@bswantner2 Год назад
It's why we don't consciously observe most of the constant stream of data our sensory perceptions are taking in, at any one time. The external world is perpetual. Thus, your perceptions (even during sleep, except the eyes) are always noticing and sending electrical signals to your brain, which in turn creates the 'world' that you experience. A neato controlled hallucination based on electron transmission, reception, encoding, decoding, recoding, visual playback, pattern insertion, etc. And... we still have no idea how that really works. The Hard Problem of Consciousness. A really interesting, and maybe disturbing, subject matter within neuroscience and philosophy.
@eyaldraws
@eyaldraws 10 месяцев назад
Yes, I believe that circumstances, our past, our physiology & neurology, our genes, our brains, our environment and so on, can boldly influence our choices. But I believe we can always choose unconditional love and forgiveness over fear and hatred. Some people are more ready than others. It may be our only real choice in life. But that choice is our birthright and always will be.
@zonedoyestander
@zonedoyestander 10 месяцев назад
That sounds very nice but just isn't true.
@ZiplineShazam
@ZiplineShazam 10 месяцев назад
Lucky Number 7
@BenjammminC
@BenjammminC 2 года назад
Brilliant - More of these clips please
@houssambouhou7846
@houssambouhou7846 Год назад
I'm really having a hard time determining whether we as a species have free will or not, and I often find myself having a difficulty even at conceptualizing the problem at hand. There is particularly a fact that bothers me, because I know it's true but I don't know what to do with it; it seems to me that the more we see into humans as 'lots of similar selves', which is totally objective for it involves generalisation of the same laws and qualities throughout all the species, we tend to realize an absence of free will, but the more we focus the lens and see into 'ourselves', which is totally subjective, we realize a presence of free will. And I don't know what to do with this fact and where does it fit amongst the other facts surrounding this subject. Also, I find it very difficult to give up my belief in free will. I must be honest but I don't see a way to live fully aware that I'm not free, I don't know if I'm right or wrong, if I'm avoiding the truth or wrestling with it, but I MUST believe in free will.
@basedgamerguy818
@basedgamerguy818 Год назад
Because you can't directly communicate with your subconscious you only have the illusion of free will
@tbwolf
@tbwolf Год назад
Honestly, it all becomes a matter of semantics at some point. The answer to "do we have free will?" heavily depends on what we understand of it as a concept that we humans created in the first place. Personally, I don't believe in "free will" as we understand it since there are always a series of variables that influence your decision-making process at all times. The problem with this idea is that these variables are so many in number and so hard to measure that it becomes impossible to determine the when, how, and what we do when presented a specific situation in life. You may think you are "free" when you choose but in reality you are being influenced by your genetics, your upbringing, your education, your experiences... Hell, you might even be influenced by how you woke up that day and watched on the news before leaving your house. So, are you "free" in the sense nobody is pointing a gun at your head? Yes, but that's about it. If all variables are exactly the same, the outcome will always be the same; we simply don't have the technology to replicate these variables to be exactly the same. For example, if you were able to throw the same set of dice under exactly the same conditions, you would always get the same results, but we simply cannot replicate these conditions up to a 100% accuracy since even the slightest change in, say, your hand movement throwing the dice, may affect the outcome. We would need to have control of these variables to an atomic level. This is also the reason there is no truly randomness in programming, but the illusion of it, and the same happens with free will. If you think of the brain as an incredibly complex computer, you would come to the same conclusion: nothing is truly random, there is always something, somewhere affecting how it works.
@vagrant_dreams
@vagrant_dreams Год назад
I'd like to think of it as, the more knowledge we have on how the laws of nature operate/how our brains work, the more we can have a certain degree of control. And that minuscule control that we have, I'd like to think of that as our "freewill." In other words, the more we expose ourselves to different POVs, scientific concepts, philosophies, etc., the more we can make better, informed decisions.
@emmashalliker6862
@emmashalliker6862 Год назад
Just show an un caused, caused in the brain and bang you've got free will.. Without it, you got nothing.
@benjaminfranklinstyl
@benjaminfranklinstyl 11 месяцев назад
I totally get you and I am impressed that you still challenge yourself :) I have some thoughts you can play around with. 1. Objective and Subjective "Reality" can still coexist. If it feels like you have free will, why bother. Just enjoy the "illusion". Subjectively it really doesn't make a difference. 2. This one is a little crossover to another topic, mainly the definition of oneself. People are often talking about this hypothetical teleport Experiment. If you beam your atoms one by one and you are built apart, at which point you aren't you anymore? So maybe you might think it's just when you hit the nervous system or brain you slowly change into not being you anymore? I think it already begins with your fingernails, perhaps even your Ideas which can spread onto other people. So if you don't really exist at all as you might feel it and you just are a thought, behaviors or a way of thinking... You are not really "trapped" into one organism, you are just one small expression of all beings and possibly even beyond. (Like Stars, Astroids, Galaxies, etc. which slowly but surely change and influence each other) This is a little open ended and probably not really well explained, but maybe it sparkles a great new Idea in someone else :)
@simus9999
@simus9999 11 месяцев назад
I can't really imagine anyone arguing for Free Will, if it is meant to be "to act independently of any sort of environmental or biological determination". But if we define "free will" as the fact that, given the same virtually infinite determined causes, two different actions can follow (and be determininstically explained a posteriori), then I don't see how Sapolsky's last example is not a plea for Free Will.
@sosweetss57
@sosweetss57 5 месяцев назад
Perfect explanation I love this thank you
@sosweetss57
@sosweetss57 5 месяцев назад
There’s a lot of validity in his arguments RE the various contributions to behavior. But his argument doesn’t successfully argue against the possibility of choice simply because one can be aware of the factors making something or someone “determined”. And then it’s hard to distinguish which action is influenced by what, when the elements of consciousness, awareness, and intentional intentionally are brought into the picture. There are more reasons his argument isn’t fully successful, such as what you pointed out. Also being able to break down the elements of behavior to its microscopic parts is fun and all but I’d love to see a similar account of consciousness. Which hasn’t been done by neither philosophers nor scientists. *Which probably means the causation he is so enamored with might not apply in the same way to consciousness and thus decisions*
@Saurabh_Mediyum
@Saurabh_Mediyum 4 месяца назад
True, such debates often feel like a play of words. To reiterate what you said in a different way : if we can choose to be more receptive to positive stimuli, hey, it means there's free will
@Giuseppe11
@Giuseppe11 4 месяца назад
He is saying that the circumstance of you being exposed to the information that change is possible will determine you being more prone to engage in certain type behaviors (eg seeking to overcome certain patterns). This does not mean that there is a separate “you” that can intervene in that process independently from it
@josephrichards7624
@josephrichards7624 3 месяца назад
I think it requires a belief in a diety or a soul. Otherwise your left with a deterministic scientific paradigm that most people have these days and there is no room in that for free will
@treich1234
@treich1234 11 месяцев назад
We may not have independent "free" will but we do have the ability to sculpt our persona (over a lifetime) to become more than the base hand we were dealt....we do have conscious choice
@TheLifeOfNurse
@TheLifeOfNurse 9 месяцев назад
Being able to sculpt your persona is the base hand you were dealt. Seems like a trait which are genetic.
@fredericchopin5224
@fredericchopin5224 4 месяца назад
and that conscious choice has been made by a concoction of your genetics and impact from surroundings. I don’t believe there is any “self” that can have even the slightest bit of impact on choice. What do you think it would be? The conscious choice is directed by your moral compass most often, which you have been given at birth and then developed over your upbringing
@Ashish-nd3xj
@Ashish-nd3xj Год назад
The video that freed me from almost all miseries of life. Thank you both
@LuckyJackson2020
@LuckyJackson2020 Год назад
care to share/help me with the same?
@RH-ti2dp
@RH-ti2dp Год назад
You mean that now you can feel no guilt when you live to scratch whatever itch you may have and eat chips watching football till you die?
@Ashish-nd3xj
@Ashish-nd3xj Год назад
@@LuckyJackson2020 dropped all and any guilts. No free will, not responsible for anything
@angelasands1643
@angelasands1643 Год назад
@@Ashish-nd3xj idk if I'd choose the word "responsible."
@Hormoz.
@Hormoz. 10 месяцев назад
@@angelasands1643in Retrospect no responsibility. For future, We are supposed to be responsible. That’s how we can make it work
@Blue_Gourami
@Blue_Gourami 2 месяца назад
Once you figure out that your choices are predetermined down to the breakfast you ate this morning, a huge sense of weight is lifted off your shoulders as you slowly learn to “let go” and allow the world around you to take form. It truly is fascinating to watch, as I have learned to take a “back seat” role in my life, in some ways at least.
@sohatufail3610
@sohatufail3610 Год назад
People who don't want accountability for their wrongdoings make an excuse of lack of free will to prove they have no fault. Everybody can have two or more options in their mind and they choose to act positively or negatively because they make a choice according to free will. Sometimes free will doesn't exist during unconscious actions and extreme anger but many time free will exists. People will disagree who can relate to it but I won't read replies and engage in futile debates.
@eirikmurito
@eirikmurito 7 месяцев назад
The word "choose" preassumes that theres no chain reaction that led to the crime, so just by using that word youre blocking your own understanding. Dont worry about it its not your fault ;)
@epicbehavior
@epicbehavior Год назад
It’s not about our ability to make choices. We WILL make choices regardless.
@honeyspoonbeewrangler4550
@honeyspoonbeewrangler4550 Год назад
Yes, but it doesn't mean the choice wasn't a perception created out of illusion/delusion from the constant deceptive information pushed as truth.
@terrykrow7820
@terrykrow7820 6 месяцев назад
But the choice was constructed of before the thought. Maybe even by a randomness of choice? This can be programmed also.
@MultiMagnumforce
@MultiMagnumforce 9 месяцев назад
Love this thank you about Free will education.
@danielcartwright8868
@danielcartwright8868 Год назад
If determinism is true, the way that you interpret any peice of evidence is predetermined by factors outside of your knowledge and control, which means you can never be sure that you are interpreting any given peice of information rightly, which should undermine your confidence in any conclusion you come to, including your belief in determinism. Appealing to evidence to prove determinism is self-defeating.
@kaiserkong6587
@kaiserkong6587 10 месяцев назад
LOL good point
@uprate2564
@uprate2564 4 месяца назад
Sadness
@JTheTeach
@JTheTeach 3 месяца назад
yes but thats not contradictory at all. Thats all of science, believing in something until you find a better explanation with the understanding that your initial idea is probably incomplete.
@SvjetaakJEDNA
@SvjetaakJEDNA 2 месяца назад
solid mental gymnastics
@meltygear5955
@meltygear5955 Месяц назад
"rightly" feels like a loaded term. Who defines what's the right if you can never be sure of that you are interpreting? :)
@danish.imran10
@danish.imran10 11 месяцев назад
I don't understand the last part of the video. Can somebody explain how can one become more optimistic by knowing that its possible? How can one possibly influence change by just knowing that change is possible?
@jasongravely7217
@jasongravely7217 5 месяцев назад
I think it’s the fact of knowing it is possible changes the behavior once we know the fact that it’s possible.
@heinzditer7286
@heinzditer7286 Год назад
As long as we dont understand the brain, we cannot say if we have free will or not. Even when it sounds super logical to not have free will. We cannot prove it.
@crazy1gadgets1
@crazy1gadgets1 4 месяца назад
And as long as we cannot "predict" what someone else's behavior will be even if we were by some unfathomable miracle of modern science (or otherwise) have access to all (or even a fraction of) the data necessary to lay out enough causal chains leading to what their "next step" will be, we must act as if that other person has "free will" and that they alone are responsible for their actions - to the extent that it would be indeed foolhardy, or even potentially deadly otherwise. Any other argument seems merely academic, and has no utility whatsoever. I don't even think we know what "free will" is, for that matter, let alone how the brain or consciousness works. Anybody who takes a firm stance on these issue is, in my opinion, merely doubling down on their own self-serving entrenched beliefs on the matter.
@TeChNoWC7
@TeChNoWC7 4 месяца назад
We kind of can, because the concept itself makes no logical or consistent sense, even on a philosophical level - and when you introduce materialism, it just compounds the issue.
@crazy1gadgets1
@crazy1gadgets1 4 месяца назад
@@TeChNoWC7 this is at it's essence the "hard problem" of consciousness - I cannot know your innermost endogenous experiences, including your thoughts (and you cannot know mine) no matter how many empirical measurements you can make if you take a strictly materialist/physicalist view You may be able to make a "statistical" prediction, but no more - after all, what is the length/mass/electromagnetic frequency and amplitude of my experience of the color blue, or my insightful thought? Bernardo Kastrup goes into this at length.
@TeChNoWC7
@TeChNoWC7 4 месяца назад
@@crazy1gadgets1 totally agree with your definition of qualia essentially, but not sure what that has to do with free will being an impossible concept.
@crazy1gadgets1
@crazy1gadgets1 4 месяца назад
@@TeChNoWC7 I am still wrestling with this, I admit. What might be closer to the truth is that while I don't have personal "free will", and neither do you, it is effectively "impossible", even in principle, for either you or me, to know the other's thoughts or qualia, making pursuit of the concept of "free will" impractical and meaningless, like chasing after the wind, in my opinion. What we are left with is that to function in this world we must act "as if" the other has free will, otherwise we may not thrive, or even survive.
@wyattoutlaw2370
@wyattoutlaw2370 Месяц назад
A friend of mine changed his whole life path from a decision of his own free will. He was a drug addict for 10years and decided to change his life. Now he is a millionaire with a beautiful family. Imo he was literally pre-determined to be junkie and end up dead or in jail , but he made a choice to change his circumstances of his own free will. Many of his friends from that neighbourhood ended up in jail or dead but he chose to change his life.
@silrak5405
@silrak5405 Год назад
excellent interviewer
@williamadams4855
@williamadams4855 Месяц назад
Saplosky's ideas are A. Based on anecdotal evidence. B. Incomplete science. But that doesn't stop him from selling them as truths.
@SS-wysiwyg
@SS-wysiwyg Год назад
Swami Vivekananda defines a free entity in the following sentence: “Who is free? The free must certainly be beyond cause and effect.” For an entity to be free, it must not be caused by something. Why? Because if it is caused, it is then bound by the cause. The effect can be nothing apart from the cause. With clay as the cause, one cannot get a golden pot - it is bound to be a clay pot. The cause being there, the effect must follow, there is no other way. The unity of the cause and the effect is an accepted fact in Vedanta philosophy. Thus, as long as a thing is within the realm of causation, there is no freedom. We may talk about freedom in the relative sense. For instance, we may say that a man is more free compared to an animal, as he is less influenced by his surroundings than an animal. However, the same animal is more free compared to tree or stone. Relative bondage or freedom is a matter of perspective, it is not absolute. What is freedom from one point of view becomes bondage with a change in perspective. Thus, that cannot really be called freedom. As said by Vivekananda, only that which is beyond causality can be free. That is the contextual definition of freedom. So when we are talking about freedom of the Will, we are seeing if the Will is an uncaused phenomenon, for only then can it be free." Quoting - N Krishna Bhardwaj - Dept of Yoga, SVYASA Bangalore
@cabellocorto5586
@cabellocorto5586 Год назад
Very based. I definitely agree with this. You cannot be free as long as you exist within causality. It doesn't matter how free you feel, no matter what, something influences what you do, which makes any action you do not free from those circumstances.
@stephenpain342
@stephenpain342 7 месяцев назад
Fascinating - I guess there are a million questions. Firstly the connectionist/genetics framework in a discussion of levels of cognition and behaviour. Secondly and more importantly the notions of freewill and determinism. Was it George Lewes who came up with the compatibilist image of a drunken sailor free to wander erratically aboard a ship that had a fixed course?
@Fitandover40
@Fitandover40 3 месяца назад
This is so interesting! The professor has a really strong point
@voicemonkey3886
@voicemonkey3886 6 месяцев назад
Whether or not I do or do not have free will is irrelevant. I am conscious and self aware. I perceive myself as having free will. I perceive myself as being in control of my actions and choices.
@coachafella
@coachafella 6 месяцев назад
It can make a great difference in how we emotionally react to the actions of others, and as a society how we treat them when their actions are unacceptable. We don't get angry or seek revenge against natural forces regardless of how harmful they might be. We no longer burn witches for being possessed. Understanding the causes of behavior can allow a more humane society.
@HASHHASSIN
@HASHHASSIN 9 месяцев назад
"Although Sapolsky highlights the influence of neural processes on decision-making, the brain's complexity can also contribute to the emergence of novel thoughts and actions. The brain's ability to integrate information from various sources and generate unique patterns of thought might be a source of human agency and free will."
@smeeself
@smeeself 8 месяцев назад
Information from various sources is a cause.
@fredericchopin5224
@fredericchopin5224 4 месяца назад
This exact same thing could be said about an AI. The only difference in humans is the personal moral and ethical background they have from their upbringing or even genetically.
@BethBarany
@BethBarany 7 месяцев назад
Sapolsky and Lisa Feldman Barrett are in alignment. essentially, if you give yourself a new stimulus from the environment that supports a new way of thinking, your biology will align in that direction, your neurology will align in that direction. From what I understand.
@rajs6804
@rajs6804 9 месяцев назад
Good one! Rings right!
@AlvaroPeralta
@AlvaroPeralta 2 года назад
Is there language missing here to describe the semi-conscious capacity that humans have to impact and take part in the process of 'choice'. In listening to both Dr. Huberman and Dr. Sapolsky, perhaps we need to consider taking a species within this environment approach. As a collective, our choices over time in the environments we inhabit create a genetic change...and perhaps in this we have conscious influence? Would this require to consider our neurology working together in a collective level as opposed to the individual level? Do we have a greater impact on the evolution of our wiring as a collective than as an individual and if so, over what periods of time for what types of changes?
@bansheeofinisheerin
@bansheeofinisheerin 2 года назад
No.
@AlvaroPeralta
@AlvaroPeralta 2 года назад
@@bansheeofinisheerin No to which part? And why 'no'?
@bansheeofinisheerin
@bansheeofinisheerin 2 года назад
@@AlvaroPeralta There’s no language missing. We don’t really have free will but outside stimulus can influence and change us. Free will is an illusion.
@AlvaroPeralta
@AlvaroPeralta 2 года назад
@@bansheeofinisheerin if outside stimulus can influence and change us, is it possible that we can be the stimulus for change and influence for extremal and internal things as well?
@AlvaroPeralta
@AlvaroPeralta 2 года назад
@@bansheeofinisheerin my suggestion here is that the use of 'will' is blinding us to potential that does exist. 'Will power' and 'free will' are archane ways of articulating how we make sense of the world... like a flat earth that is the centre of the universe.
@y37chung
@y37chung 10 месяцев назад
He forgot that thoughts and neurons can be the environment/circumstance/influence of another thought and neuron. And then some of those neurons basically embody "you". That's where the "degree" of free will come from. That's why people who are known to be brainy give the impression of possessing more free will.
@supersaiyanzero386
@supersaiyanzero386 7 месяцев назад
I love the answer to the long question "nehh!", followed by brilliance.
@bparcej6233
@bparcej6233 10 месяцев назад
‘Will’ is pre shaped by bio psycho socio human elements…free will requires self awareness and motivation to do what we determine to be of highest value. ( master or servant)
@chad.williamson
@chad.williamson 2 года назад
This is such an interesting topic. If we have no free will, wouldn't that mean the entire planet and everything about life is 100% deterministic?
@neilcreamer8207
@neilcreamer8207 2 года назад
Yes. Entirely deterministic but so complex that it is unpredictable. I think even the idea that QM is not deterministic comes from our ignorance about mechanisms at the subatomic level.
@ryandubois7419
@ryandubois7419 2 года назад
No, I don’t think so: Not having free will does not imply determinism (the inverse, however, is true). Counterexample: if everything in the universe was completely random, we wouldn’t have free will then either.
@AlexanderSanz2008
@AlexanderSanz2008 2 года назад
That's the topic of his next book.
@iamduck.203
@iamduck.203 Год назад
So if we have no free will, then who's talking and why and how are we talking about free will ??
@Gingnose
@Gingnose Год назад
@@iamduck.203 Your brain but doesn't have freewill is talking about free will
@d.h.9965
@d.h.9965 2 года назад
sentience and consciousness arent well understood. its probable that free will (if it exists) is an emergent phenomenon, not a fundamental one... so its not likely you would find a special cell or sub-structure that mediates free will
@neilcreamer8207
@neilcreamer8207 2 года назад
Since there's no evidence of free will it's more likely that the idea is a compelling illusion. If you think there is free will try to control which thoughts you have.
@SvjetaakJEDNA
@SvjetaakJEDNA 2 месяца назад
I think realizing that free will is an incoherent concept can help clear things up a lot
@fishing.on.saturn9833
@fishing.on.saturn9833 4 месяца назад
I’ve thought for a long time that we don’t have free will. I had a really vivid lucid dream one night where I was very conscious of what I was doing and felt like I was in control. Then when I woke I realised it was just like any other dream. The consciousness of the dream was just part of the story like any other dream and I thought this is how waking life is too.
@SanderBessels
@SanderBessels 3 месяца назад
He just says that whatever happens now is a consequence of what happened before. And in that sense it’s obvious there is no “free will” in the strict sense. We cannot “will” our way into a certain behaviour and violate the laws of physics, when they would predict a different outcome. The only fundamental uncertainty might be in quantum mechanics, but it’s impossible for a “soul” to steer your body into certain behaviour by determining the quantum outcomes of particle interactions. The interesting thing Sapolsky says is that he believes we are determined, not just on a particle scale, but by our biology and psychology. Our current self is an inescapable product of our past. Even when we are born, we are not a blank slate, because of the species we are, the genes we inherit and the culture we are born into. We are determined. Fully. On the other hand, there is chaos and undetermined, or rather unpredictable, outcomes because of the complexity of things. If we roll a couple of dice, we don’t know the outcome. We can never fully know or understand our past and the illusion of free will is created because our brain is constantly in a state of unstable equilibrium. Our thoughts can wander one way or another. This keeps it interesting. I think chaos leads to the illusion of real chance, of real undeterminism and of free will, but in fact it’s just practical unpredictability.
@vadimchevvie
@vadimchevvie 8 месяцев назад
Hi Dr. Huberman, I am a C2 ESL Ukrainian, in Ukraine since day 1 of the war. Plugging into your topic of the brain being influenced by environment and uplifting/depressing news - does feeling hopeless living under the risk of death from rockets and being unable to leave build and deepen my neural circuitry in the direction of perceiving life in general as traumatic and option-less? Would I have to rework myself again after the war? I feel stuck in limbo without feeling the world outside. Feeling a direction and being motivated is hard under these circumstances. Thank you.
@soumendrapatra2342
@soumendrapatra2342 2 года назад
This is what hinduism and Buddhism have been saying thousands of years ago. There is no personal ego...
@cabellocorto5586
@cabellocorto5586 Год назад
Turns out Buddhism and Hinduism were the right religions all along.
@youngnbored
@youngnbored Год назад
@@cabellocorto5586 Christianity points to the same thing. It's been misunderstood.
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 11 месяцев назад
@@youngnbored Augustin literally made up free will to make up excuses for the Christian god.
@mmnnmt
@mmnnmt 5 месяцев назад
I'm trying to read 'Determined' at the minute. I'm finding it challenging and disturbing. It seems obvious that the cocktail of our background informs our actions and ideas but, why are we so willing not to credit that the brain's freewill works in the background, quickly, at times. Like reflex where you catch something in a complex movement. Some free will decisions we postpone to gather more information and some we make fast in the background. Think about the Ai computer that impossibly beat the world champion in a complex strategy game. 3 times, using prior knowledge and expectation. The human then did something completely unpredictable and the Ai machine couldn't cope and lost. In my life I've had moments where I was effectively watching myself behave in a stressful situation. It helped the outcome based on my decisions. Anyway, thank you for the stimulation even though I don't like it 😅
@pl5227
@pl5227 7 месяцев назад
Free will does not need a requirement not to be influenced by something else.
@fredericchopin5224
@fredericchopin5224 4 месяца назад
What he is arguing for is that everything you do has been determined by something else (brain chemistry, surroundings etc.), which is quite literally the definition of not having free will, aka determinism.
@coin321ify
@coin321ify 8 месяцев назад
I am willing to accept this largely because Dr Saplosky descriptions are understandable if you possess the vocabulary you know what he knows. I used to work in corrections. I retired there. I am now thinking about the interactions with these insights, and it makes a lot of sense.
@MsCankersore
@MsCankersore 2 года назад
So first he says you can't change volitionally but then says you can because circumstances do change?
@joshchapman4753
@joshchapman4753 Год назад
No he’s saying circumstances change you, not you change circumstances.
@NuYiDao
@NuYiDao 2 года назад
It should come as no surprise that metaphysics makes use of physical materiality. Knowing the frequency of every note in a musical score does not demystify the original process of composition.
@patricksimon1846
@patricksimon1846 8 месяцев назад
It seems for me that we are an expression of the univers and we are going in a direction. And more you are align with where the direction goes, more you feel a fulfillment. And as a individual human being we haven’t chose this direction.
@emailaccount4483
@emailaccount4483 5 месяцев назад
The alignment, desire to align or the actual practical action of aligning is also predetermined.
@patricksimon1846
@patricksimon1846 5 месяцев назад
@@emailaccount4483 yeah to feel the fulfillment is to recognize that you are the expression of the universe itself. Go with the flow ! Yet we may not be intelligent enough or wise enough to really understand how prédétermination and freewill work who knows.
@INTERNATIONALvids
@INTERNATIONALvids 9 месяцев назад
Sapolsky is a Legend. This video is only a tiny spec what this man contributed so far.
@Andrew-dg7qm
@Andrew-dg7qm 3 месяца назад
My first exposure to him. What do you recommend?
@user-wy7ml3sd2m
@user-wy7ml3sd2m 6 месяцев назад
It doesn't matter whether we have free will or not. We still feel like we make choices, and those choices decide how happy and healthy we are. Just teaching logical thought processes to children would lead to a happier world.
@waylonbarrett3456
@waylonbarrett3456 5 месяцев назад
You don't feel strange just boldly asserting what matters and what doesn't? We're out here in this universe, too, ya know? 😂
@hmind9836
@hmind9836 4 месяца назад
@waylonbarrett3456 He/She is just at a point in their life where they have a certain level of consciousness that focuses on themselves and their needs, and you're at another point, where you take into account other people's needs and opinions and carefully think about your points because you know they have an impact on the environment around you. That being said, 3 years from now, you might change your point of view due to a traumatic experience or something similar, and they might change because of some meaningful conversations with other people. Being aware that everybody is constantly changing and in a different state of consciousness is also another level of consciousness. I hope someone replies to my comment saying that there's another level of consciousness that takes into account even more stuff, then we can continue this trend forever.
@GrubKiller436
@GrubKiller436 4 месяца назад
It matters that we present the truth to minimize confusion.
@rysw19
@rysw19 3 месяца назад
To me the question of free will has more to do with the question of what “I” am. I’ve always seen it as a question like, “Do I have control over my decisions?” And taken “I” to be a persistent agent composed of the matter in your person and especially your brain, the answer is usually some degree of yes.
@user-vs2df5gc8e
@user-vs2df5gc8e Год назад
There is Freewill. Martin Heisenberg in his Essay ‘Is free will an illusion?’ (Nature 459, 164-165; 2009), argues that humans must have free will because freedom of action has been demonstrated in other animals - including those as small as fruitflies and bacteria.
@szilardoberritter4135
@szilardoberritter4135 Год назад
In my opinion the question isn’t wether we have free will or not, but rather how much do we have? I think everything that every happened to you has an affect on what you choose to do next and it’s sort of built into you. The structure which was built from the ground up is what controls you for the most part and decided who you are to some degree. But you can break out of this structure at will and with sacrifice and suffering! Your structure that likes to control everything loses control and fights inside you. Your free will is your mind/soul and it’s limited by your body. I think it’s too pre deterministic to say everything just happens on accord and it’s all ‘written in the books’ meaning everything that happens was just supposed to happen and nobody could have ever controlled that. It’s easy to say this because we always see only one outcome and not the rest. Like what the God of War Ragnarok game teaches you: you can’t rely on profecies! You must write you own story in between the borders you are limited to!
@nnanwa529
@nnanwa529 Год назад
Exactly. I think saying there's no free will is silly IMHO. On the one hand, he says we can't change ourselves, because there's no freewill. On the other hand, he says we can be changed by circumstance. It seems to be that the second statement is antithetical to the first. Most behavioural scientists agree that changing the environmental can help us change our behaviour and habits. And if this were possible, then it should be possible for one to choose to change their circumstance in the process or for the goal of changing themselves.
@AbOveandBeOnd1
@AbOveandBeOnd1 4 месяца назад
I always say we can do what we will, but we cannot will what we will.
@woodysep
@woodysep Год назад
"Change can happen but where people go off the rails is translating that into: we can change ourselves. We don't. We can't. cause there's no free will. however we can be changed by circumstance." Beautiful
@nnanwa529
@nnanwa529 Год назад
I think saying there's no free will is silly IMHO. On the one hand, he says we can't change ourselves, because there's no free will. On the other hand, he says we can be changed by circumstance. It seems to be that the second statement is antithetical to the first. Most behavioural scientists agree that changing the environment can help us change our behaviour and habits. And if this were possible, then it should be possible for one to choose to change their circumstance in the process or for the goal of changing themselves.
@sbh0892
@sbh0892 11 месяцев назад
@@nnanwa529 Follow up question : what motivates a change in environment? Follow up to the follow-up question: What motivates the person(s)' motivation to change the environment? We can regress infinitely in this vein.
10 месяцев назад
I had a spiritual awakening one evening. Absolutely nothing changed outside of me or in my life, but everything changed inside of me.
@TheLifeOfNurse
@TheLifeOfNurse 9 месяцев назад
@egonmaric So your brain thought of something and you felt good about it? Those are called emotions, and they are caused by hormones and neurotransmitters like dopamine. Usually things like "spiritual awakenings" are during development of the brain when hormones are flying all over the place left and right. So this example really just furthers the point that we have no free will. This awakening that you had no control over, could determine the trajectory of the rest of your life.
@Cheximus
@Cheximus 5 месяцев назад
I stumbled upon this realisation quite late actually (mid 30s). Despite interest in philosophy and religion since I was a teen, I never thought much about free will. It seems so obvious now.
@daviddeida
@daviddeida 4 месяца назад
Me too,its so obvious
@Andrew-dg7qm
@Andrew-dg7qm 3 месяца назад
So there is no free will. Isn’t this an easy argument for forgiveness and compassion? Acceptance of human kind, openness to our frailty and fallibility,…the notion that we can be vulnerable and creative and open to criticism…?
@poksnee
@poksnee 3 месяца назад
Excellent dialog...I agree with Sapolsky.
@wellnessdesignsarah
@wellnessdesignsarah 7 месяцев назад
It's interesting to hear Dr Sapolsky suggest we have no free will and to some extent, I think he’s right. Unless we have the intention to change. To dig in, explore and shift how we’ve been experiencing our worlds. To create better stories. That process of what Jung called Individuation is challenging yet possible.
@johnnyjustice
@johnnyjustice 6 месяцев назад
It means that most people have the potential for free will, they don't have it easy/ right off the bat. It needs to be activated.
@steven3837
@steven3837 5 месяцев назад
​@@johnnyjustice please elaborate
@emailaccount4483
@emailaccount4483 5 месяцев назад
The desire to "Dig In" is also predetermined.
@Satya-gk7hz
@Satya-gk7hz 10 месяцев назад
Mechanistic axioms lead to mechanistic conclusions. If anyone agrees with this, try treating yourself or a loved one like they're a product of circumstance and incapable of change or independent choices. See how long that works. Really disappointing that all that external knowledge hasn't led to any looking inward and understanding what it means to be human.
@chase_modugno
@chase_modugno 10 месяцев назад
Having no free will is essentially saying choice is an illusion because a person will always default to their best choice. This is not true anytime someone makes a choice that goes against their better judgment.
@smeeself
@smeeself 8 месяцев назад
When you go against your "better judgement" ( a vague expression) you are still doing so for " reasons"
@goodnatureart
@goodnatureart 2 месяца назад
Reading Sapolsky's Determined-- great reading.
@kellyallen5684
@kellyallen5684 2 года назад
So, we have free will within the confines of our biological, hereditary, cultural, and circumstantial situation.
@tess55
@tess55 2 года назад
Which is to say - we don’t have free will
@ndndndnnduwjqams
@ndndndnnduwjqams 2 года назад
That's not call free will. It's literally not having free will. It's just will. Choice.
@susabobus
@susabobus 2 года назад
@@tess55 we have will, but it's not completely free. But what is free at all? What truly does not exist is freedom. But it doesn't mean we can't affect our choices by our rationality. The will is not free but not determined either. At least for subjective point of view. If choices can be affected, then they do exist. And if a human has ability to choose, then they can do it with rationality, and thus, responsibility, morals and etc do exist and play a big role in what happens. That's the thing: freedom does not exist, everything happens for a reason, but humans can use rationality to affect it. That's what we call free will. But i think not many people actually think freedom is possible. So it's just about wording, not about concept. We have will, it's not 100% free, but it exists and morals exist too.
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 11 месяцев назад
No. There is no confines. There is causes of choices.
@christophertilleman4170
@christophertilleman4170 2 года назад
But who is "You" in this equation? "You" is a section of the universe. That section has a lot more of what we call "free will" than a rock, a star, or pretty much any other section of the universe, all of which is ONE THING. No?
@jaythenihilist4689
@jaythenihilist4689 Год назад
Does an ant have free will?
@Basilfilmer
@Basilfilmer Год назад
@@jaythenihilist4689 relative to a pebble, absolutely!
@cabellocorto5586
@cabellocorto5586 Год назад
The reality is that there is no 'you'. The capital S Self doesn't exist as an entity. It is a stream of processes.
@Basilfilmer
@Basilfilmer Год назад
@@cabellocorto5586 When I say "I" and when you say "I", isn't that The Whole Universe referring to itself? Isn't That the "Self"?
@cabellocorto5586
@cabellocorto5586 Год назад
@@Basilfilmer I don't believe so, because we consider ourselves separate entities from a whole. So I don't believe the concept of the Self can coexist with the conception that we are all part of the universe. I don't know if it is possible for us to really see things the latter way experientially due to the way our egos are wired.
@phatlam9064
@phatlam9064 8 месяцев назад
Robert Sapolsky answer the question Directly. Yes or No! Not like other speakers! And I LOVE IT!
@Andrew-dg7qm
@Andrew-dg7qm 3 месяца назад
Haha. You love clarity? Doesn’t everyone, especially when we’re talking about such a confusing and controversial subject as free will? Me too.
@greatergood9942
@greatergood9942 7 месяцев назад
Free will has nothing to do with actions you do or do not take. We have an infinite number of realities that we can experience. Free will is is making that choice. It's made by our non physical self , the real us.
@dm3199
@dm3199 Год назад
Basically the moment you deny free will you deny existence of God, soul and consciousness, to me God, soul and consciousness is the same, that is the agent of free will. Of course they are going to claim that consciousness comes from the matter, the matter has to arrange itself randomly into a very complex and complicated way to form a conscious brain, what are the odds for it? But if we consider consciousness to be precursor for all of it, it solves all the problems.. Conveniently for them they ignore the problem of Consciousness completely
@willp9226
@willp9226 Год назад
For the most part he's correct in that our brain's are just running scripts based on all the factors he says. But, we do have free will to chose right from wrong and other choices too. It's just that in some instances it is really hard to do so. As we are so heavily influenced by those neural circuits.
@hevelish3242
@hevelish3242 Год назад
No disrespect, but apparently you didn't get the point of the guy in the video because free will is not about you making choices, but about the WILL itself behind it. As he is asking in the video, what is it that is left if you leave out your biology (like genes, hormones etc.) and your environment (like how you were raised, which experiences you made etc.)? His and the answer is there is nothing left. The problem which most people are having when they're advocating for free will is, that it feels intuitive to believe we have it and it feels wrong/counterintuitive to believe that we're just like passengers of our own brain. Of course it's also a question of how you define free will, but his point is that having free will would mean that we can choose to want what we want. Which we simply can't. You could say we can decide to follow or not follow these desires, but then again, it's just about how much you want it and/or how much you don't want to experience the consequences. To put it simple: person a decides to rob a bank, person b decides not to. What was the difference between those 2? Person a wanted it more and this desire was bigger than his desire not to be criminal. Person b was the opposite. He maybe wanted to rob the bank as well, but his will not to be a criminal was stronger. But both couldn't choose which desire of these was stronger. That's what it's about.
@willp9226
@willp9226 Год назад
@@hevelish3242 Thanks for the interesting comment. Free will is defined as voluntary choice or decision, and/or freedom of humans to make choices that are not determined by prior causes or by divine intervention. From that, we do have free will. And it seems more like you're talking about and maybe the speaker in the video too, about not having a solid identifiable self. Which, I don't think we have. So, there's no self that actually experiences the free will. to me anyway. But from the definition of free will, we do have it. If he chooses to redefine free will, then that's not free will that he's talking about.
@hevelish3242
@hevelish3242 Год назад
@@willp9226 it's definetely about how you define it. But making decisions comes down to what you want more. let's call it the volume/power of each of your desires/fears etc. You can't choose them. That's your will. And the question no free will advocate is able to answer is: what is it that makes you want things other than your biological and your environmental factors? What is left to be called free will? Which part other than these 2 can you point to? A funny note: I don't blame anyone who believes or doesn't believe it. You simply can't help it :)
@willp9226
@willp9226 Год назад
@@hevelish3242 I think for the most part there isn't really free will, no matter how its defined. As many people tend to go off something other than the rational choice, when making a decision. Most are controlled by other factors. I also don't believe there is a solid, unchanging self. Whatever a person wants to call it. Which seems related to the lack of free will we have. But, as you say with free will, its something that seems to exist or humans feel it exists. I believe the brain fools the individual into believing there is a self, (and free will) but more so with the self, as a preservation measure. As for free will, people often express their inability to make a decision, and just go along with the same old. It happens socially, culturally, politically, pretty much everywhere life is. Which again, suggests free will is lacking.
@rolodexter
@rolodexter 9 месяцев назад
Both Dr. Sapolsky and Dr. Huberman are prolific authors and lecturers. They have written several books and articles on their research, and they give talks at conferences and on podcasts. They are both passionate about using their research to help people understand and manage stress. I think that both Dr. Sapolsky and Dr. Huberman are doing important work in the field of neuroscience. Their research is helping us to understand the biological basis of stress and its effects on the brain and body. This knowledge can help us to develop better treatments for stress-related disorders and to prevent stress from causing damage to our health.
@archangelarielle262
@archangelarielle262 5 месяцев назад
Huberman is a sophist and charlatan.
@spencer1854
@spencer1854 3 месяца назад
Many things influence our behavior, but I think we still have free will. We always have a choice. To think otherwise is extremely dangerous on many levels
@PedroContipelli2
@PedroContipelli2 Год назад
True or not (likely we will never have proof either way). Pragmatically, the belief that one does not have free will over their own actions is extremely harmful to our everyday lives. It can be used to excuse ourselves from chasing goals, setting goals, or even behaving in whatever neurotic way leads us into despair. This is an important feature that is often left out of the philosophical debate. Not to mention, determinism is absolutely contradictory to the entire field of ethics. Should rapists and murderers be excused for their actions? Since after all, they did not have a choice. Are racists and nazis simply unable to break free from their psychopathic behaviors? Or is it more likely a plethora of societal conditioning that one needs to CHOOSE to break free from.
@TruthDissident
@TruthDissident Год назад
No. You absolutely cannot blame any of those people because free will doesn't exist and the universe is always in flux.
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 11 месяцев назад
The only thing belief in free will gives people is pride and hatred.
@brunoserafimovski1903
@brunoserafimovski1903 4 месяца назад
If you don't believe in free will you also would believe that people have no choice but to hold you responsible for your actions. Idk why everyone misses that part
@matthewstroud4294
@matthewstroud4294 10 месяцев назад
Imagine that you have a rock. You hit the rock and split it in two. Inside, you see a message. It could be any message you like, perhaps it says "free will is a myth". Does this image that you recognize as a written message have any standing as evidence about what the message purports to be about? Remember. This in an inanimate rock, formed by natural processes, stacked one on another since the beginning of the universe itself. If the message has no standing (which it doesn't), then the same applies to anything else in the universe, including the thoughts and words of Dr Robert Sapolsky. This is the fallacy of self-exclusion. Where in this case, we try to reason that something cannot exist by using a method (reason) that relies upon the very phenomena we are attempting to refute. The rational animal trying to prove that he is not rational.
@bjornnilsson7982
@bjornnilsson7982 10 месяцев назад
Yee, we love the good guys, and the happy world
@tontolinification
@tontolinification Год назад
Two very intelligent men
@sqinisekomajola1512
@sqinisekomajola1512 2 года назад
This says nothing about our soul. It only speaks to our biology.
@TerriblePerfection
@TerriblePerfection Год назад
I don't think there's a ghost in my machine.
@cabellocorto5586
@cabellocorto5586 Год назад
You didn't pick your soul.
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 11 месяцев назад
In fantasyland free will can't exist either.
@usenlim
@usenlim 2 года назад
One word in 3:49 summarized all the talk.
@TransferOfAwakening
@TransferOfAwakening 11 месяцев назад
From a scientific standpoint, colors do not exist independently, but are instead creations of our own brain. However, given the reality we perceive is filled with colors, it is reasonable and enjoyable to appreciate and present vibrant red roses, pure white pearls, and marvel at the stunning beauty of azure skies, fluffy white clouds, verdant grass, and lush trees. Indeed, the scientific fact remains that the sun is perpetually shining and does not actually descend. Nevertheless, due to the Earth's rotation, we experience phenomena such as sunsets, sunrises, days, and nights, along with varying intensities of sunlight. Acknowledging and respecting these experiences and living as though sunrises, sunsets, days, and nights are real is a sensible approach. It is a scientific reality that both iron and oxygen are primarily empty space with a small portion of energy. However, considering their unique properties and the distinct ways we experience them, it makes sense to interact with them differently based on their observable traits. Scientifically speaking, there is no concrete "I" or self. Yet, to successfully navigate daily life and foster meaningful connections, it seems practical to behave as though there is a definite "I". In a similar vein, while science tells us there is no actual "free will," in our present experience, it seems judicious to act as if "free will" does exist to make choices, assume responsibility, and engage with the world. Comprehending the scientific truths behind these phenomena doesn't diminish the significance of our experiences and perceptions. It is crucial to strike a balance between our scientific understanding and the pragmatic aspects of existing in our perceived reality.
@EricHart-il2sz
@EricHart-il2sz 6 месяцев назад
Can I choose to read a book to get knowledge so I become more hopeful and more accessible to being changed? It feels like I am choosing knowledge, and learning, and not that my learning is deterministically happening to me. Hence my belief in limited free will.
@DeeperWithDiego
@DeeperWithDiego 5 месяцев назад
I like this guy. No one is responsible for their actions, because the notion of responsibility requires morality, which if one were to understand good and bad for a living organism, as life as the standard, then nothing nature does ( I can't say you do because there is no you, remember ) is just what nature does. You're simply a collection of atoms, determined by some superior thing ( god, nature, movement, etc ) to act the way you do. So this professor is letting everyone know that loving and killing is the same thing - nothing but a breeze on the back of you head. If you attend his lectures and go to his college, just don't pay. Show up, and sit in the class. You didn't choose to do that. Put you money where your mouth is, and "do whatever nature forces you to do".
@pie-eatingant6432
@pie-eatingant6432 3 месяца назад
Spot on with your reductio ad absurdum of Sapolsky.
@george2916
@george2916 Месяц назад
Clearly the professor is NOT saying loving and killing are the same thing. That's you leaping to an unfounded conclusion. Clearly the takeaway is that some set of conditions facilitate love and a different set of conditions make it possible for one to kill. The whole point being that we don't get to choose which conditions we're saddled with.
@christopherellis2663
@christopherellis2663 4 месяца назад
That's a nonsensical question. How could we know? What difference would it make if we could?
@KyleBenzien
@KyleBenzien 2 года назад
Nice video, thanks!!
@keganoldenburg1572
@keganoldenburg1572 5 месяцев назад
This is exactly where science hits its limitations. The "scientific" answer is we don't have free will, because you can trace every decision back to a cause other than you. Okay, but we don't live in philosophical conundrums or do our brains work dissected according to science. We live in a subjective conscious experience. From a phenomenalogocal perspective, we all have had the experience of making a "choice" that was more difficult to make than another. We also have had the same experience making the easier choice. The actual experience of choosing is undeniable. The real question is does BELIEVING in free will change your decisions.
@Cheximus
@Cheximus 5 месяцев назад
You answered your own question in your first few sentences. You were always going to make a certain choice because of what happened exactly (or a long time, whatever) prior to that. I don't really understand how there is more to the discussion than this.
@keganoldenburg1572
@keganoldenburg1572 5 месяцев назад
@@Cheximus The question of free will is just mental masturbation. "I'm right about free will.". Great, grand, wonderful. The point is does the belief in free will actually alter your decisions. Of all the past variables that go in to making a decision, the belief in free will is one of those variables. Again you can make a rational, scientific argument for determinism, it doesn't play out the same in application. You would essentially have to give full empathy to every murderer, rapist, child molester, and terrorist. Because well "they couldn't make any other choice.". You can tell yourself that you are completely determined, but yet you will still be forced to make "choices" everyday of your life. Again you can't rationalize your way out of actual human experience. You should just accept everything everyone does because "they couldn't make any other choice." But nobody treats people like that and nobody wants to be treated like that.
@Cheximus
@Cheximus 4 месяца назад
@@keganoldenburg1572 yes, we should give compassion to them in the basis that they didn't choose to be like that. On the other hand, we should be smart about it, and keep them separated from society so they don't continue to harm and spread trauma.
@gryphonmacthoy
@gryphonmacthoy 7 месяцев назад
Lack of Free Will is not Hopelessness. Having Free Will does not provide Hope.
@mn5499
@mn5499 4 месяца назад
Free will is self evident, what’s also evident is the shirking of responsibility that people can do by saying we don’t have free will.
@daviddeida
@daviddeida 4 месяца назад
Of course you are free to will all you want,how much plays out?
@mn5499
@mn5499 4 месяца назад
@@daviddeida If you mean are a persons goals successful that they pursue through there own effort of will. then i would say it is about considering all factors when setting out on a goal. The fact that some people fail doesn't demonstrate that free will does not exists. It just means we lack knowledge or take risks that are not in our favor.
@brunoserafimovski1903
@brunoserafimovski1903 4 месяца назад
​@@mn5499 If you think factors can predict outcomes that is pretty deterministic. Cause and consequence. The outcome is like that because of those factors. No person would take a risk if they knew it wasn't in their favor which again goes to lack of knowledge and no-one would do something if they thought they could get better results by obtaining more knowledge and if they knew how to do that so it leads to them being unaware of their lack of knowledge and how can you be aware of what you're unaware of? So while the choice is not directly predetermined, there are factors and events which led to the person not having been aware of their lack of knowledge which caused them to make a bad choice. No-one is saying people are forced to do things. They're saying their choices align with how they think and how they think(how they calculate those factors) is caused by what they've experienced, how they've processed that experience, their innate traits and their circumstances. If that wasn't true it would mean that the way they think is random which goes against what you said about factors determining outcomes. And idk what responsibility has to do with it. If I don't believe in free will, I also don't believe that other people have the option of not holding me responsible for my actions. Excusing my actions would only work in a world where I only didn't have free will
@JohnDoe-qm8ns
@JohnDoe-qm8ns 2 месяца назад
Free will is not self-evident. Sorry.
@daviddeida
@daviddeida 2 месяца назад
@@mn5499 So my reply was deleted,a good example of case in point.Nothing is in our control,not even what we will.We just claim authorship after the action is already decided.
@alexgoslar4057
@alexgoslar4057 2 месяца назад
Intuition sparks revelations, inspirations, and, insights. Intuition is the mother of everything. But how does intuition emerge? What does it influence and how does it vanish?
@szilardoberritter4135
@szilardoberritter4135 Год назад
inventions are a total game breaker for those who say we have no free will! If everything is pre determined and all we know comes from something we experienced then how should we be able to create new stories and technologies?
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