Do You Have a God Shaped Hole? 

Even with all this talk of holiness I really wasn't expecting the line "Nietzsche wants to destroy your hole"

"I have come to destroy your holes." -Nietzsche (This might not be exactly how he phrased it.)

I'd heard of the Gay Agenda, but I can't believe this is the first I'm hearing of The Gay Science. Boy, have I still got a lot to learn.

The original quote is: "God is dead, and we have killed him" it was a satirical story as a critique of modernism and the death of mystery.

I've said this for years that people get Nietzsche wrong. Excellent job.

7:56 Nietzsche wants to destroy your hole. Perfect Michael 😂😂😂😂😂

Hey Michael, check out (if you can) John Caputo’s chapter in Zizek’s book “Hegel and the Infinite: Religion, Politics, and Dialectic.” I find this piece directly addresses the consequences of the death of god and is one of the few articles that has truly inspired me/overwhelmed me with emotion. I hope it gives you inspiration for a follow up to this video!

"I don't believe in God, but I am not an atheist" - Albert Camus

Gotta admit, I did smash that like button after being informed it was worth a prayer.

It is strange that Atheism is categorized the same way as something like Christians. It is actually better categorized above theism. Like you wouldn't categorize non-stamp collectors and collectors of American stamps at the same level, and you wouldn't categorize all non-stamp collectors on the same level as stamp collectors. Theism is belief in a ideology which contains one or more god like beings. Like you could have a category of sandwiches which contain pickles. A god is one part of the ideology as their reason for claiming they are right. Why do people group every possible ideology that could exist which does not contain the specific feature of godlike beings the same way they group a specific religion like Christianity? There are even some people group it the same as a sect of Christianity like Catholics, which seems ignorant to me.

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Nietzsche being a madman running around the square: "IM LOOKING FOR THE UBERMENSCH! IM LOOKING FOR THE UBERMENSCH!"

That was a good listen, I didn't consider the "finish the job" kind of mentality in finding new ways and meanings when it comes to existing after the idea of Gods. We tore god out of us and now we're infected. It helps explain the types of people who are a bit rampant in their view of "how can you go without hurting people without god." I think they do help show how we haven't done our due diligence to really enshrine humane yet secular ethics in our existence. Thank you for this.

This was one of your best “reactions”. Thank you for this philosophical insight! This is definitely post-grad understanding. Cheers!

Personally, I just want people to take responsibility. No more allowing God to be used an excuse. There is no divine justice or forgiveness, no ordained ethics, and if we want them we must enact them ourselves now. Nobody will work on us for us. That's for us to do as a part of our own life's journey of struggles and lessons.

I've come to make sure Michael isn't fading out of existence again.

Lol! I'm a priest, and the algorithm suggested this to me on a Sunday morning! 🤣 (I have a lot of time for Niche, BTW, he has some excellent clarifying critique that could help to make the cultural phenomenon of Christianity more in line with a compassionate suffering creator/saviour. 😊👍)

I haven't read very much of Nietzsche, but this really proposed some interesting ideas to me. Leaving the evangelical church had social, political, and even economic consequences for me. I lost many friends, my job (gotten through the social connections of* the church) became less stable, and as my values abandoned conservatism I shifted dramatically left. The creation of the "god shaped hole" wasn't purely a mental construct, but also a materially consequential aspect of my life at the time. This is the first time I've heard an espousal of the idea that "killing god" must be an inherently nurturing act in relation to the human spirit, rather than a violent act of oppressed in relation to the oppressor. Cheers!

Hilarious timing on this video. I’m literally on set filming behind-the-scenes video on the movie God’s Not Dead 5 right now…

(your) God is dead And no one cares If there is a hell I'll see you there -NIN

Spends 20 minutes talking about the death of God. Ends video with "God bless."

8:59 Nietzsche was not a No Nut November enjoyer.

I think Nietzsche's words that most resonate with me are about being poets of our own lives. So many people equate Nietzsche's work with pessimist cynicism associated with nihilism when his philosophy tends to be much more inspiring. To not live empty lives when faced with religious or idealistic failings or absences, but to embrace the beauty in life's even most mundane aspects.

I think you misspoke. Nietzsche published "The Gay Science" in 1882, not 1822 (before he was born lol) where I think first used the line.

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"By the time I was getting ready to graduate from high school in 1966, _Time_ magazine, of all publications, caused me to reevaluate my tenuous belief system with one splashy and provocative headline. Written in large red block letters on a stark black background, a headline in the magazine posed the following question: IS GOD DEAD? What the hell! The Yahweh I had been introduced to was supposed to be immortal. But maybe the editors of _Time_ were on to something. One must remember the times we were living in. In the late fifties and the early sixties, the country seemed to be living on the brink of nuclear holocaust. Those were simpler times, and America had only one real enemy, the Soviet Union. The Soviets had tons of nukes aimed at us and we had tons of nukes aimed at them. Many people in this country spent their weekends building and outfitting bomb shelters in their backyards just in case the Commies dropped the big one on us. In retrospect, it was more than a little ridiculous. (And it became the basis of one of my favorite movies, _Dr. Strangelove.)_ These were the conditions that led many to feel that God must be dead. (Or maybe he just had a great sense of humor. Nothing creates great comedy like tension.) In the year leading up to the headline, we were inundated with even more bad news. The war in Vietnam was escalating with breathtaking speed, hellish images of civil rights workers being beaten in the South filled our TV screens, and the assassination of black activist Malcolm X, tragically and ironically, kicked off 1966’s National Brotherhood Week. With all of that going on, why not a dead God? In fact, a better headline might have been DID WE KILL GOD? Let’s face it, if God was, in fact, dead, he did not expire naturally. Just as Christians are told that Jesus died for their sins, God obviously suffered his fatal collapse under the weight of America’s collective, misguided savagery. Either way, I remember thinking at the time, even if I don’t believe in him, a dead God isn’t good news." - Lewis Black, _Me of Little Faith_

I haven't seen seventeen in forty years, my animosity to religion has nothing to do with philosophy. I find that the inability to engage in critical thinking in many cases have a direct link to lifelong acceptance of religion.

I think there's a new God's Not Dead movie that you haven't done a video about yet. Can we get that as a Christmas present?

For the last time: science doesn't have all the answers, but the answers it gives are solid.

money is the new god... god is subjective.

Where was this video 13yrs ago? Awesome vid as usual. Its still revelatory to me that people were using an unfinished quote that, “God is dead…” They always used it in with passion instead of neutrality.

This reminds me about how a person with an addictive personality will ditch cigs to start drinking and stop drinking to start coping with food-in all honesty I am a hardcore atheist who struggles communicating with religious individuals about religion bc I few it as the Flying Spaghetti Monster idea-and as a side note I have read Nizches full God’s Not Dead but goddammit it never clicked until you brought up the Q Anon analogy and now I need to think a bit more thoughtfully about it I think- good job Wisecrack! You always help communicate these old big ideas in a way I can better understand and appreciate :)

People are so lazy with their Nietzsche reading it drives me crazy. At the same time, it's probably intentional on Nietzsche's part 😂

Interesting point about the link between Bill maher, Jordan Peterson, and using their beliefs as a scapegoat for prejudice. Ironically. the latter was on the former's podcast.

Every time I hear Gods not dead, I picture an angel finding god dead, and trying to cover it up with a few of his friends, weekend at Bernie’s style.

I take the phrase "god is dead" less as a proclamation of victory, and more like a call to responsibility. If god is dead, then it falls to humans to keep humanity alive. Like a child growing up only to bury their own parents, and will in turn be buried by their children. If you wanna take it to the logical conclussion, I'm basically saying Therapy is a replacement for Religion, but that doesn't mean something else won't eventually replace therapy.

First thanks for the video, love it! I was always more in tune with Spinoza than Friedrich, but respect! Let's say I would try to do as Friedrich enjoins. I would elevate above socially imposed beliefs poised to renew some godhood. Then I would choose my values in a way that would make me closer to my part of humanity and humankind. Then how would this new corpus of values I would adhere to not become a new divine figure for me? Iguess in that it would not demean humans. So humanity and nature are the central point of this new corpus of values, this is getting quite close to Spinoza's definition of God. Am I missing something?

“Nietzsche wants to destroy your hole.” 😂😂😂

Hey Michael's daughter in the future, post embarrassing videos of your dad on RU-vid!

Thank you so much for crediting the clips you use. There have been a number of times where I can't recall where I've seen a thing, or I know it from somewhere, but haven't seen the source material and want to.

I deeply fear anyone that reads Nietzsche as a nihilistic atheist.

Awesome video! Thank you so much for all your work. I have 2 thoughts on the topic: 1. I always feel like the issue with modern atheism is not only this god-shaped hole, but also the neglect of the history of religions. Surely, nothing good can come of it since the premise is all wrong. But that both dismisses the origin of religions, a sense of meaningfulness and purpose in a complex world, as well as any accomplishments made in the name of religion along the way. I at least imagine that I can sense that in today's capitalistic system. Very often, any bit of christian morality is eschewed because of the whiff of religion for a "better" measure of numbers over everything, completely forgetting that those numbers were made by people and are often taken on faith. 2. 17:30 I think this is an extremely idealized version of the fight between theism and atheism. I feel like, on average, humans are not that rational or malleable. It does not matter if the new and improved Nietzsche-atheism is more logically and ideologically grounded. Religion exists for a reason. Humans want to believe in stuff. So it's gonna be really hard to continually convince them of the superiority of this Nietzsche-atheism. So I don't think this fight is won by improving atheism or if it even needs to be won since, in the end, the motivation behind becoming a morally upstanding and healthy individual kind of does not matter. That being said, it's obviously extremely important to know about these glitches in our perception and thinking.

We're all pretty sure we're gonna die, and most of us would like to feel like we're spending our alotted time wisely, or at least blamelessly. That's where the real friction comes in when you kill religion. I myself use the "I'll find out when I get there" cop out. I don't figure any current human religion has the correct answer and science frankly can't ask the right questions, so I'm stuck following my heart, doing what I think is right and being prepared to demand answers if I ever find myself before my creator. I also realize that it's just my own way of whistling past the graveyard, but I figure everyone needs something to deflect existential dread, as long as your way doesn't interfere with mine it's none of my business.

Thank you. As a Christian, I feel like his work is very misunderstood but incredibly valuable to believers and non believers alike. I've always seen his writings as an observation on the effect of a lack of faith on a people, or rather .. pointing out that people do need purpose, meaning, and we'll seek it out anywhere which leads to problems. Our world , even in his time I think, seems to be determined to belittle the humans deeper needs because.. hey, peasant, get back to work. There's no time for any of that fluffy self improvement or nurturing the soul/psyche stuff. And it's all but impossible to talk to other Christians about him without them acting like i just kicked a puppy lol.

1:11 Thats part of the reason, besides loving the content. That i made sure to show support for you man!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

This was really thought provoking. I’d considered the idea of God being replaced by celebrity, media, etc, but not the idea that it had to be killed and the process completed, lest the cycle repeat endlessly.

I just had this conversation with someone over Christian nationalist. Someone tried to dismiss them because they are contradictory with in our political system but I tried to explain that assuming the common follower of the ideology is understandable because so many are secular and have not created a sound moral and ethical system which creates many different problems like aligning our selves with the ideals of consumption, capital and presentations in the media rather more of aligning our selves with an altruistic, forgiving powerful, and knowledgeable ideal. They want more people to have a moral foundational basis but I think it's just simply that it is theirs not one based on ethics, reason, and self exploration. Interestingly enough those things are undervalued and cut from our schools focusing more on hard skills and jobs skills rather then being moral ethical and informed civic body. I think they recognizd and concerned about a reasonable problem but aren't not trying to solve it in a good way. That's all assuming that they aren't not trying to use religion and moral high ground for power grabs and discretion lol, which is likely

Dropped this legendary line in .... 1882 🤘☮

18:33 ways of life that are totally indifferent to gods past present or future? Thats literally what science IS. And yet you spent this entire video completely missing that point and for some reason insisting that science is just something to replace god? Idk how someone misses the point that hard. I normally love your videos but when the topic is religion you just stop making sense entirely. The reality is the vast majority of people arent obsessed with god (living or dead) and live their lives without ever even thinking about it. Like, at all. Idk why you have this obsession with the idea that people will always replace god or religion with something else, but they dont. Most people had an imaginary friend when they were little... But when you grew up, did you "replace" that imaginary friend with something new? Or did you just move on and live your life like an adult and just not have an imaginary friend anymore? Its the same with God. Nobody is gonna go around and replace old beliefs in god with beliefs in something new; they're just gonna leave that stuff behind, and not have it be part of their life anymore.

My favorite band is Bad Religion and they have made a DVD of their earliest shows (early 80s I think). They explain what "bad religion" means and I think they must have read Nietzsche because, despite their logo being the cross buster, they say it isn't about being anti-religion it's about being anti-thought that can replace religion.

"Parasocial Heaven" You come up with the greatest band names.

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People misuse the idea belief, they equate it with trust. Belief is unearned trust. I don't believe in either religion or science, but I do trust science.

Would love to see Michael continue on this topic responding to someone like Sam Harris (and accusations of his islamophobia) or one of the many (hair pulling inducing) discourses between Harris and Peterson. (And to answer Michael’s question at the end, I think it’s harder to kill God or ~God’s shadow~ than Nietzsche implies… filling that hole left by religion or scientism with “building unique values” or “self affirmation” just sounds flaky to me and ultimately gets you back to the initial problem of finding meaning. If it’s not meaning beyond yourself, how great can it be? Nietzsche’s perspective seems somewhat individualistic and at odds with one of the pro’s of God-holes/religion: communion with other people/nature. I’m partial towards Michael’s suggestion at the end that it’s hard to wrap our heads around value and meaning outside of some sort of God-shaped hole.

Ah yes. The most misquoted line in modern philosophy. Can't blame people tho, the phrase is catchy. Took me years to read it full, in context and understand it... While I do not disagree in his life-affirmative philosophy, I think his proposal of lifting ourselves by our bootstraps, by creating something new by ourselves, is impossible. There is never nothing new under the sun. And still, even if Nietzsche critiques and laments that "we" have killed the holiest of holies, I can't help but think that he maybe overstated and exaggerated the demise of the sacred. It is so alive that evangelical republicans (falsely) claim it as the ideological base of their (false) moral superiority, and even if you are not the biggest fan of Jesus, a war in the middle East is brewing as we speak, predicated on the concept of a holy war. How do you "kill" such a stubbornly rooted idea? Taking it in the most literal and simpleton way to understand the phrase, turns out that you can probably kill a "god" by simply not adoring it anymore, by realizing that it was fake and just a projected figment of the psyche. But killing the deeply entrenched human NEED to believe in something transcendental to the material world? Even the most rational minds can't help but feel that stuff like numbers have a sense of reality to them. The urge to believe in the transcendental immaterial is Impossible to kill because it is probably the most real of realities. And if God really exists, even more impossible. How do you even "kill" something that is beyond eternal? If God is like a person, it probably is laughing from us thinking such a silly thing; forgiving our ignorance and arrogance in believing such an absolutely impossible thing.

1822? He was born in 1844, so how does that work?

Now, I am Christian (obligatory disclaimer achieved), I don't believe in God because of some promise of Heaven or something like that although I believe in a new life after this one, I believe based on various life experiences, lots of historical research, and maybe, just maybe a little bit of what people call "blind faith". I'm not here to argue my beliefs though but rather I just want to comment on what I perceive to be a huge problem in both atheism and theism, the idea that believing in God somehow makes you a "good person" when in reality that's hardly true, not just biblically but in our daily lives. I've read a post somewhere about a waiter in, like, a Waffle House or something who said that the Sunday after church crowd are some of the rudest, most entitled people they've ever seen! It's a critique that a lot of hard-core atheists like to bring up, a Christian's tendency to have a "Holier than thou" attitude as though their belief in God makes them somehow better than everyone else. I've heard people say that their main reason for not believing in Christianity is because of the attitudes of the people within it. It's sad and frustrating to see so many people who are taught to "love thy neighbor" doing basically the exact opposite. I think that's what happens when your belief system is solely based on the promise of an afterlife in paradise. Another thing is I don't see humanity "Killing God" any time soon, I live in the south, Kentucky to be precise, and there's a lot of.... conservatism here. A lot of backwards ideologies run rampant including racism and homophobia which, again, negates the whole "love thy neighbor" thing. Aside from that I believe that the "God-shaped hole" is evident in our very nature as human beings and our seemingly hard-wired desire to find purpose. I've found that everyone, EVERYONE has an opinion about purpose, and if you ask them, nearly everyone will gladly go on a whole rant about why they believe or don't believe in this and that and whatever. Many people who don't believe that the universe has any sort of real purpose are never born like that but rather come to that conclusion later in their lives. Many could argue that it's simply because they've been told to believe in God since early childhood and then later come to the conclusion that that's all just nonsense but in recent years more and more people are being born into Atheistic households and yet the pursuit of "purpose" still lingers in their minds somewhere, even if later in their lives they decide that it's pointless to try and find said purpose, the desire to do so had to be pushed aside at one point or another. Even if I wasn't Christian I'd still find this absolutely fascinating. Maybe it's just an evolutionary means of survival that we try to find purpose in things, why we as a human race are so fascinated by the universe, science, and generally just trying to figure out how everything works and why it works the way it does. But we've never really figured out the "Why" part. Why, for instance, do two hydrogen atoms and an oxygen make water instead of something else and why is it so consistent? A belief in God certainly seems like an easy answer. It's as though it was simply "programmed" to do so. But let's say there is no "programmer", does that mean there is no "Why"? That that's just kind of the way it is? If we assume there is a God, is there a "Why" to him? It seems to me that no matter how you look at it, eventually you'll come to the conclusion that some things are just arbitrary, but then again, maybe I'm wrong. In fact, I've found that, due to our limited squishy gray-matter tucked away nicely within our skulls, it's likely that we're wrong about just about everything. Anyone who's familiar with Darwin's doubt will know what I'm talking about (if not, look it up, it's super interesting). I don't really have a point here, I'm just spouting random philosophical nonsense that I think about a lot. I suppose if I have any conclusion to make here it's that the universe is so massive and complicated and we as humans are fascinated by it on a genetic level. Regardless, no matter what you believe or don't believe in I think it's better if we come together to discuss and share ideas rather than argue about them. It's frustrating to me to see the echo chambers of the internet go at each other's throats over things none of us really truly understand. It's even worse when it becomes real-life drama. Just.... try not to be a dick, that's all.

I can’t believe that Neitzche would be misunderstood and taken out of context, next are you going to tell me that there are people who completely missed the point of Machiavelli ❤❤❤

Gpt : Certainly, I can provide you with a list of criticisms against Nietzsche's views on God and his book "God is Dead." Please note that this list will be comprehensive and not necessarily reflective of my personal beliefs or opinions: 1. Nietzsche's claim that "God is Dead" assumes that God was once alive or existed in the first place, which lacks evidence. 2. The concept of God's death implies that there was a time when God was alive and actively involved in human affairs, which is based on theological assumptions rather than empirical evidence. 3. Nietzsche's argument does not consider the possibility that God's existence or non-existence is beyond human comprehension and cannot be definitively proven or disproven. 4. The claim that the decline of religious belief signifies the death of God overlooks the possibility that religious experiences and spirituality can exist independent of organized religion. 5. Nietzsche's assertion fails to consider the diversity of religious beliefs and the existence of multiple conceptions of God, which may not be affected by the decline of specific religious traditions. 6. The argument that the death of God leads to nihilism overlooks the potential for individuals to find meaning and purpose in secular philosophies, ethical systems, or personal beliefs. 7. Nietzsche's belief that the death of God would lead to the collapse of moral values neglects the possibility of moral frameworks based on reason, empathy, and social consensus. 8. The claim that the death of God necessitates the creation of new values and the emergence of the "Ubermensch" overlooks the potential for individuals to find moral guidance and purpose within existing philosophical and ethical systems. 9. Nietzsche's view of God as a projection of human desires and weaknesses neglects the possibility of a transcendent, divine being that exists independently of human perception. 10. The assertion that the death of God leads to the loss of objective truth fails to consider alternative sources of truth, such as empirical evidence, logical reasoning, and scientific inquiry. 11. Nietzsche's argument does not address the potential for religious belief to evolve and adapt to changing social, cultural, and intellectual contexts. 12. The claim that the death of God leads to the dominance of the will to power overlooks the potential for individuals to prioritize cooperation, empathy, and ethical behavior. 13. Nietzsche's view of God as a hindrance to human progress neglects the potential for religious belief to inspire positive social change, moral development, and personal growth. 14. The argument that the death of God leads to the rejection of absolute values fails to consider the possibility of subjective moral frameworks and the existence of shared ethical principles. 15. Nietzsche's claim that the death of God is a necessary step towards human liberation neglects the potential for individuals to find meaning, purpose, and fulfillment within religious traditions. Please note that this list is not exhaustive, but it provides a starting point for further exploration and discussion of Nietzsche's views on God and his book "God is Dead."

The only way a person has a god-shaped hole in their heart is if god is shoved into them at an early age and their heart grows around it.

Really missed a chance to use an Always Sunny clip about “god-holes.”

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Seems like the answer to Nietsche is relatively simple. Embrace science and philosophy but reject scientism and domatic religion.

My new value in life is to keep watching and enjoying Wisecrack videos on philosophy. I hope Nietzsche is proud of me...for real though I love this channel ;D

All I know is my god can kick your god's ass.

I have to admit, while the idea of creating one's own meaning and may sound very life-affirming and empowering, I can't actually think of how one tackles this problem. Like, where should one start? In addition to this, it sounds pretty hyper-individualistic, and if everyone actually follows this to the letter, I think it would get us to a very tribalistic world at the point of mutual annihilation at best, in my opinion. Of course, this probably wouldn't happen, because research (Shalom Schwartz's work, for example) shows us that people in general value pretty much the same values. This doesn't, however, explain why our world is still divided into moral communities of global and local religions, as well as different denominations, yet this may point to some kind of common ground between humans. And maybe the search for the transcendental meaning and values is present because there is something transcendental, but why does it hide? Of course, someone would say something like opening my heart for the Jesus or anything like that, but... bruh really?

people constantly misunderstand philosophical atheism. There is a huge difference between the concept of god and 14 year old atheism. Sociology of religion is also heavily misunderstood by religious bigots

I don't know much about atheists or what their arguments are, but that would be normal, I guess, as an atheist myself, there is nothing to talk about. You speak of atheists like they are actually active in some way, digging in with theories and arguments, but that is not my experience, because I can't talk about something that has no consistency in my mind. In fact, I do know some people who, like me, don't believe, but that's that, there are no discussions, what's understood is understood. It's a clear fact that religions were born out of what humans thought and perceived of the world that surrounded them with primitive explanations of what the elements are and how they work. Unfortunately, these beliefs lasted many centuries and permeated our consciousness to the point where it seems crazy and outlandish to cast them aside and move on into a better and superstition free understanding of things. People find it hard to give up the Idea that there has to be a meaning to our existence, it makes them uneasy.

Betterhelp is awful. Wisecrack's advertising department is morally dead.

As an agnostic: Eh, its a possibility.

Why da flark would I care about Nietzsche? My lack of belief has nothing to do with him. Nor do I seek to replace it with scientism or anything else.

In my defense, thus spoke, Zarathustra is incredibly difficult to read

You need to remember to distinguish the western (european) idea of God from the rest of the world. Christianity never had any prominent influence on the muslim world and especially eastern cultural hemisphere to the point that the death of God (which is uniquely Christian imo) was never really felt there.

"Do you have a god-shaped hole?" Not yet, but I'm hoping one day.

sartoric goth teens hanging out at suburban malls how dare you call me out like that.

I feel like Neitzche would been pretty down with Neil Gaiman’s “American Gods”

What a twist, haha. I wasn’t expecting “finish the job” as the conclusion. As others are pointing out, though, even if we do manage this feat (and as you sort of touched on in the video) while a version of the Christian tradition’s image of God may be died or dying, humans do still have ideals and values. It’s a fundamental and even inescapably pragmatic human tendency to make value judgements. Even if the old supreme value dies, there won’t be a god shaped hole for very long before it’s inevitably filled with another supreme value, whether consciously or unconsciously. Whether we want the Christian God or not, we’re inescapably confronted with the question of which god we do want to orient our values around. Do we want that god to be ourselves (“human flourishing”)? The planet Nature? Technology? What is the most important thing for humans to orient their attention and value systems around? Or is the true death of God a complete obliteration of the concept of making value judgements at all? Or is it simply indifferences about the fact that humans tend to worship gods?

I love the poking at the conspiracy theory that paul is dead. LOL Awesome job.

I love how everyone forgets the rest of that quote; god is dead and we have killed him. We,the humans who invented gods in the first place. If we can create a thing, then we can destroy that thing.

I have complex feelings on this that I can’t completely explain here. But, Nietzsche is hard for me. I agree with a lot of what he say’s especially when talking about Christians carrying more about the afterlife than this life. I am religious though and a lot of my favorite theologians specifically talk about that. That the most important thing about religion is how it affects your life now. Sometimes it feels like Nietzchsche doesn’t consider that side of it

That God Shaped Hole bit gave me whiplash with how quickly I transported to childhood

Nice clarification. God is not real. Religion holds on to philosophy like a weightlifter holds on to a helium filled balloon.

You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, The universe is laughing behind your back. -Deteriorata

Other things only replace god if we idolize/worship those things. Humans can be non religious(daily habit of exhalting something) and spiritual(acknowledging that there is more than just this physical realm we perceive) at the same time. Humans just need to understand that these god-replacing ideas are only tools that should be used to improve human understanding rather than an alternative to salvation. What we need to study is the reason why humans feel the need to worship something.

🎉 epic thank you brother

The cries against so called "scientism" are often made by lazy metaphysicians who have prematurely given up or ruled out a scientific explanation. Some things are almost certainly beyond science, like morality and ethics. There are legitimate realms which science has no answer, but we should not rule out science without a rational explanation as to why it is unsuitable. So I see the other side of the argument as just as relevant today. There is a lot of ant-science attitude going around. "In the conditions of modern life, the rule is absolute: The race which does not value trained intelligence is doomed … and there will be no appeal from the judgment which will be pronounced the on uneducated." ~~ Alfred North Whitehead

"God is dead. God remains dead! And we have killed him! How can we console ourselves, the murderers of all murderers! The holiest and the mightiest thing the world has ever possessed has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood from us?"

I am the bone of my sword.

watched the full video and still think it's a dumb idea, sorry, theists.

The more i learn about nietzsche the more i believe he was just an insufferable pedant

I disagree with the idea that "science" or anything else you mentioned is treated like "God ".

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Something that doesn't exist can't be alive or dead.

If you have to think about Nietzsche to be an atheist, then you're not a very good atheist.

I was thinking of American Gods listening to this :)

God is not dead, for he was never alive... we all made it up and the gods pray to Us!!

I feel like this video failed to engaged with the anti-moralism of Nietzsche. His rejection of contemporary atheism is also rooted in him thinking that atheists had just copied and pasted a Christian kindness and humility as values, without any serious revolutions of thoughts. As such, since Nietzsche thought that this type of humanitarian thinking came from Christianity, he thought atheism had a Christian origin.

Yeah. Nietzche was mourning the death of God. I mean, that's what I got out of the full quotations. Which he says "we have killed him, what was once so holy bled to death under our knife..." And what not and so forth. I'm paraphrasing, but I think it gets the idea through. I think.

I'm an apathiest. It's not my problem if god exists or not.

"trust the science" is a religious statement.