Do You Need an BMW M to Go Fast? Watch the Surprising Answer 

Get a base RWD 230i with a 6 speed manual, put a tune on it, upgrade the suspension, new tires/wheels, upgrade brakes, and it's probably as good as a M2, and cost alittle less assuming you do the work yourself. Of course getting something out of the factory means warranty and reliability but I guess that's what you get for saving 10k.

So according to the times listed...the 230i set a faster lap time than the 340i? That's damn impressive.

Owned two M-3s loved them both.

Yes I'll have one with a manual transmission please.

M240i. No options, just manual and Sunset orange paint. Much better.

Thank you so much for reviewing a non Chrysler. Reviewing garbage cars nobody outside of Detroit would buy gets old after a while.

These BMW 2.0s are the most underrated engines on the market. The Pontiac solstice GXP had a 2.0 liter turbo that did 260hp and 260 torque - 10 years ago from GM who knew nothing about turbos. I suspect this engine is closer to 300hp/300 ftlb Also begs the question, how would the m240 do? Can't discount the role that the transmission differences play here though....

Cars are not only for speed,.... BMW have so beautiful and well design cars, i just love them. BUT not all of them, personally i dont like the x series, but the sport cars that bmw made, maybe are not the fastest cars in the world but definetetly are attractive, have nice sport sound, and they are fast there on way. For the video i have to say for a 2.0 l engine, bmw 2 series has done a good job i think

But one used for 23k, then it's a great car.

I have a Track package S-Line 228i, it’s quicker and it’s AWD. The 2 series are by far the best of all Beamers. Mines quicker than all the 230is and it’s still stock

50k for the performance package???.. why not just get a M240i?

Interesting that the 230 is faster than the 340 here. It seems like it would be even faster with just RWD.

Almost as fast as the Hellcat!

The track package on the XDrives suspensions isn’t any better than stock X-Drive; track package only makes a difference suspension wise on the RWD models. A rwd track package 228i rwd should be even quicker. About 300lbs lighter than a 230i xdrive and the n20 is quicker than the b48.

I'm on my 3rd 230iand my lease was up and now that BMW is not producing the convirtable l decided to test drive and possibly buy the 2022 430i convirtable . Not! That car is not near the car my 2019 BMW 230i convirtable is . I decided to buy my 230i . Not sorry about that decision.

Where are the Audi sport sedans?

The 230i is fast and also a good-handling car and who knows, maybe the 4-cylinder makes the chassis better-balanced! But again, seeing the M2 drifting and turning, I tend to say this doesn't matter! The 4-cylinder is just a compromise for someone who can't afford a 6-cylinder version (like the M2 or the M240i) or someone who can't afford the 6-cylinder engine's running costs! Doesn't sound good, it's colourless compared to the 6-cylinder models but when economics matter, it's much better! And in Europe, we are charged depending on how much CO2 a car emits! That's why the 2-Series is also offered with a 1.5 3-cylinder, a version called the 218i and placed below the 220i and 230i (with the same 2-liter 4-cylinder engine!)! At least, the handling is a big plus, even with the less powerful engines and even for someone who can't afford the 6-cylinders! Fun fact: the 3-cylinder sounds better than the 4-cylinder!

he just complained about m2 understeer?

No point buying the m2 then?

Straight line yes, back roads, no.

Big fan of the german cars

For a daily fast driver, the 230i manual any day.

So the 230i is either a hot car or a cool car? Both of of those are good things. You either have a hot car or nice, cool car. Your 0-60 times are irrelevant to the other 49 states who are not a mile above sea level. Hope this helps.

wait... a 2016 civic did it in 1:11 and the 2017 civic si did it in 1:09.... just 2 seconds faster???

Bme stands for break my window as in bmw drivers like to park infront of fire hydrants

Just buy an N54 powered BMW, throw $1500 in parts and you'll be nearing 500hp .

That thing looks like a shoe on wheels.

Looks like the M2 is only 2 seconds faster on your dinky track. So all of that extra power and two extra cylinders goes where? Probably to the think ass air y'all test these cars in. Lol

unfortunately nothing can substitute an M.. wish it can.. i cant afford any M car i want also and it sucks..

car addicted funny people. Will yo ugo to the supermarket with this ??...)))))))))))))))

I don't care if the *30i four pot cars are underrated. They sound gutless and dull. I once drove a 220i and man was this thing a slug. The Sound was annoying just like we hear here. The 8spd auto was terrible because it only shifts fast when in sport mode but then the engine revs stupidly high. When being in eco the car starts to fight the driver - ultimate bummer. Remain in comfort it is the least annoying but not exciting. I would rather go for the three cylinder this one has a more interesting sound is more sensible and not much slower than the 2.0.

straight 4s sucks. i6s are great.

Does not have M pkg. Looks like a girl's car

BMW is overpriced. And worst of all, BMW aren't made as great as they used to be,

If you get a BMW it's because you either get a 6 inline or a v8 (turbo both ) anything else it's just buying a soulless BMW .

It is about the sound...this makes none...

No you don't need that overprice German engineering crap.

Lol BMW and fast in the same sentence is an oxymoron