Do you need the Prime Tower / Purge Tower? (Multicolor 3D Printing)

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Do you leave Prime Tower turned on or do you turn it off? Let me know in the comments below!
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Комментарии : 142

@phinok.m.628 3 месяца назад

20 g is about 7.7 % of 259 g... If you're gonna round, you could at least round to the nearest number, not to the nearest 10 or whatever. :D

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

aw poop, i mustve miscalculated that one! thanks for pointing that out!

@fadybenmoussa2114 3 месяца назад

"I WASTED FILAMENTS SO YOU DONT HAVE TO" said the legend

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

exactly😂

@bonovoxel7527 3 месяца назад

@@Lukis3D Duuude! I appreciated the tests, I do own a Bambu + ams but try always to minimize color changes on the same layer or close, I swear I still refuse to print full multicolor with one toolhead, it makes an insane amount of waste! Like the mini Jordan poops 3 times the volume of the build and it's 3 colors, madness! Thanks for printing for us all those pokemons 😅

@bonovoxel7527 3 месяца назад

@@Lukis3D *ending the video - I liked a lot the robot, Im very into the Dummy13 thing and the bot u printed is very nice to be a print in place. Hueforges and flat prints on bed is where u got to the point! Ok, one point I have is that a 7m difference it's not always just a 1% on 8hrs. My life is short 7 mins is 7 mins! Apart that, the added time is negligible and the difference is crucial I see, when you have color changes on the bed or on the visible upper surfaces. There, it makes the difference because the color change and nozzle residual pressure is managed at best and the prime tower is needed so large only when it has layers with multiple color switches. That thing the residual pressure sends me mad. Now I know what t f is making the nozzle drip. Negligible with PLA but sensitive on PETG. Really, thanks! I'm working on some printable playin cards just right now, other than enjoy a lot hueforge. Using that pesky tower sometimes will improve some things!

@StrangeKvol 7 дней назад

For a beginner, this was just what I was looking for - thank you!

@Lukis3D 6 дней назад

your welcome, that was my intention😊 Glad that it‘s helpful!

@floatypiet 27 дней назад

I can tell how much effort and work you put in this video. Thank you so much mate, I really appreciate it! Keep it up ❤ Greetings from another A1 user :)

@Lukis3D 27 дней назад

thanks man! glad that it‘s helpful. *high five🤚🏻*

@AouniX 3 месяца назад

What I noticed from printing many multi color models is that the prime tower is mostly needed when printing models with text, such as a box lid that has some writing on it. If there's no prime tower, it many cases the writing will be under extruded and messed up.

@nielsaxelsson 3 месяца назад

Thanks! As a new P1S owner, I'm trying to get my head around all the complexities of 3D printing. This helped a lot for multi-color printing, and the pros and cons of Prime Towers. Clear, concise and to the point. Great work 😀

@lcalbero Месяц назад

Thank you for testing this. Well done and very good explanation, video quality and results. Loved it.

@Lukis3D Месяц назад

your welcome! glad it helped

@hotfix7387 2 месяца назад

Thank you so much for this video. You confirmed my suspicions that a prime tower was mostly needed but it didn't have to be the default size. This was all great information and a great comparison.

@Lukis3D 2 месяца назад

your welcome! yes and nobody talked alot about this so thats why i made the test so i could share my results to those who’re looking for the same info.

@0Victory00 3 месяца назад

I heard you can use objects as a prime tower if you don't mind muticolors in your second object. It would be cool to have you showcase that as well.

@ameliabuns4058 3 месяца назад

the color bleeding is related to the purge amount anyways, you can just increase it etc!

@EditingApprentice Месяц назад

Exactly what i was looking for thanks so much!!

@Lukis3D Месяц назад

your welcome! good luck💪🏼

@FelinaFaerlaingal 3 месяца назад

So the conclusion I get is that a prime tower is advised, but the default settings are too strong (probably on purpose) I'm wondering, if combining this with the option to prime into the model (in the infill for exemple) could remove the prime tower entirely without risking that slight underextrusion that might happen sometimes. After all, if the infill is under-extruded in a few spots it hardly matter, no?

@enes98li1 2 месяца назад

You can use prime tower like purge tower. Lower your purge and the color left on the nozzle will be purged into the prime tower. So you will get stability on prints with prime tower without the waste of it.

@PolycultureArt 3 месяца назад

Thank you for doing this. I have always wanted to know.. and now I do! ❤ I would be interested in a future video that reduces filament retraction during swaps to see if poop + purge tower can both be reduced without loss of quality. Thanks again for your time in testing. You da bomb :)

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

thanks for your comment! Yes it's definitely one of many things that i wanna test out too!

@vgtgoat 19 дней назад

Thank you so much!

@Lukis3D 19 дней назад

your welcome! Hope it was helpful👍🏼

@RichardFoleher 15 дней назад

Exactly what I was looking for. Now to reduce the poop

@Lukis3D 14 дней назад

good luck man!

@W.Keeling 3 месяца назад

spot on video, very informative and editing on point, you have gained a sub

@sanernes 3 месяца назад

Considering the pla pop with the prime tower , the prime tower is nothing.

@oledennis6918 3 месяца назад

Thank you. For this I will be trimming down the amount of filament used for the purge tower.

@Light-DelaBlue 3 месяца назад

i remmber like years ago they find a solution well not bambu lab but the open maker space . it was literaly dumping in the infil.

@BixxPlays 3 месяца назад

when printing with supports, is there any reason we can't just prime to the supports?

@GuruMN 3 месяца назад

Supports don't exist in many prints and don't exist once all supported areas are exhausted beyond the lower layers. A more reliable method would be to print infill first, then inner walls, followed by outer walls. ..or at the very least print outer walls after inner walls because I don't know if slicers support printing infill first.

@youtubevanced4900 3 месяца назад

It’s the purging that is terrible. Seeing half a kg of wasted filament to print a 100g object is terrible.

@jeriellopez4927 2 месяца назад

Is this real? 500g waste for 100g print seems unreal

@youtubevanced4900 2 месяца назад

@@jeriellopez4927 it depends on how many colours you use and how complex the design. The purge is the same amount every colour change. So if your printing something like a rainbow your going to waste an absolute tonne of filament. Where as if you were just printing something that was black until half way up and then it became white for the rest that would be only a single purge event. But if you have 4 colours on a single layer for every layer in the entire print…. Not your talking about 4 purges multiplied by the number of layers. The wastage will outweigh the print weight significantly. All depends on the print. That’s why Prusas big printer can use a bunch of individual hot ends instead. Each hotend is loaded with 1 colours and the machine just changes the tool it needs as it goes. More like a fancy CNC machine.

@orlevy4174 3 месяца назад

Great video, the data is laid out very clearly. Thank you :)

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

thank you for your comment!😊

@mab4110 3 месяца назад

I would say flow is fixed by the time the outer wall is being printed especially if your print order is Inner/Outer. I think it explains the Vader print small holes. I personally use 10 width and 10 volume.

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

i use 10/15 from time to time with great success, and thanks for pointing that out!

@gamereviewmaster 3 месяца назад

Can we make the prime towers in egg shape or something useful? Make a video about how to recycle trash coming out of the printer (it's a lot)

@YoYoD4 Месяц назад

good video

@Lukis3D Месяц назад

thanks man!

@nobodyisperfect1564 3 месяца назад

invest in a pop filter.

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

yeah, i noticed that when i edited the video and actually ordered one yesterday😅

@havocproltd 2 месяца назад

my granddaughter has come with all kinds of uses for them!

@Christopher-zi8rq 3 месяца назад

Why do they not use the supports as the prime towers?

@petedeans9490 Месяц назад

i don't see why theres no setting for the prime tower to be printed away from an object when possible, that way the tower will only be printing on layers with a change in them.

@Lukis3D Месяц назад

i guess that would save some filaments, but if it has to move away, then move down, then move up again everytime, that would mean longer printing time and adds the risk that the print head will knock down your model. But the idea is good, hopefully they’ll come up with that solution soon

Месяц назад

Thanjkyouuuu!

@AveryDelMiller 3 месяца назад

Neat video! Something I've experimented with is mitigating underextrusion by doing inner perimeters first, or by using a skirt to get over the issue with the first layer.

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

thank you, and thats a great idea!

@AFAR2809 3 месяца назад

what abt purging into model mode?

@marcgoldfedder1788 4 дня назад

what happens if the prime tower gets knocked off the build plate during a print? Whats it mean? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

@Lukis3D 4 дня назад

this has never happened to me before, but you can also make the brim bigger so it‘ll stick better to the plate. Or try to wash your plate wish dishsoap & wipe the plate with IPA before a print. Most problems that occur in 3D printing are caused by the bed being dirty

@marciompjr 3 месяца назад

Nice vídeo, nice work. Congrats!

@rodrigob 3 месяца назад

What about changing the prime tower to a different, somewhat useful object?

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

i dont know if that option is available in Bambu Studio, but if it does, that second object would be susceptible to underextrusion. Unless that second object isn‘t that important, i guess it would be fine.

@platinums99 3 месяца назад

Lukis, just looking at the poop amount: are you using the latest default bambu settings? or have you tried any pooptimisations?

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

yes i think its the newest one. Nevertheless, In this video, my goal was to only evaluate the prime tower, so i didnt use any optimisation (like changing the flushing volumes or purging in infill etc.). I tried to keep everything at default except the prime tower settings.

@armorhide406 3 месяца назад

What I'm getting is if the waste bothers us, we can avoid it. Good to know

@dan203 3 месяца назад

Whare'd you get the Fallout model at the end? I tried searching and only found a low poly one. Yours looked better.

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

sorry, i forgot to include the link 😅. Here it is: makerworld.com/models/253238

@robertbailey2008 15 дней назад

Thanks for this. I just started 3d printing is this was so helpful.

@Lukis3D 15 дней назад

your welcome! Glad that its helpful. And welcome to 3D printing!

@sheikoner 3 месяца назад

Nice video, thanks for the time and the tests!

@CharredChar 3 месяца назад

"A prime tower has nothing to do with purging to prevent color bleeding" This is extremely inaccurate information. The purge (or wipe in other slicers) tower is directly related to color/material transitions. Yes, depending in your settings you can basically shrink it to nothing but if you see it as nothing but waste you're looking at it wrong. No matter what you need to purge your hotend when changing colors or material. This amount will depend on many factors but you need to account for it in one way or another. In your case you're doing a "free-air" purge off the side of your bed, so yes your tower can be small. If you had a way to mimimize the time between purging and returning to the print you can remove it all together. So in reality you're just purging too much to begin with. You could also completely remove the free-air purging and only purge into the block itself. This would entirely remove waste you see outside if your printer bed and all of it would be within a single block you can dispose of. In either case, what you're now talking about is tuning purge quanities and purge locations. And not, "this feature is not needed."

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

Thank you for your comment! I totally get what youre saying. I guess my explanation is from a perspective of a user who uses BambuStudio slicer+ Bambulab printers and doesn‘t wanna deal with experimenting purge quantities. For that, the slicer already calculates the optimal quantities for me. All Bambu printer utilizes free air purging to purge colors so from my perspective, the tower is meant for priming and not for purging. Thats why i called it the prime tower here specifically instead of the purge tower. May i ask you which printer/which slicer you use and if you purge everything into a tower, and not free-air?

@raphael153 3 месяца назад

@@Lukis3D Das wäre doch ein interessantes Video? Spülung abschalten und im Prime Tower reinigen. Null Poop Strategie! 😂

@oaktreeperson 7 дней назад

Thansk for testing it! Helped us a lot!

@Lukis3D 6 дней назад

your welcome! Glad that its helpful

@ziruszirus1654 3 месяца назад

Great video. For me would be interesting whether you could reduce (balance) the boob vs. primetower….

@Lilcalf777 3 месяца назад

Nice video

@vablackbelt 27 дней назад

anyone else notice he forgot to color togepi's feet and arms? lol

@Lukis3D 27 дней назад

🫣

@drewgossage8842 3 месяца назад

Great work, loving your content 👍👍 🇦🇺

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

thanks man!

@WhatMikeisEvolving1 3 месяца назад

Great video! Ive always been curious on how much difference that tower made

@marcor6403 3 месяца назад

Hi, I am sorry but I am new to your channel. Which 3D printer do you use that prints those colors so vibrantly? It's a bambu printer but which exact model? Thanks 🙂. My best guess from the video is the Bambu Lab A1 combo?

@raphael153 3 месяца назад

0:43 A1 mini 0.4 nozzle

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

Hi there, yep its the BambuLab A1 Mini + AMS combo

@marcor6403 3 месяца назад

@@Lukis3D Thanks!

@johngorena3932 Месяц назад

took forever to find this... excellent. im subscribing.

@johngorena3932 Месяц назад

also, i wanted my colors to blend, zeroed out flushing volumes..

@Lukis3D Месяц назад

your welcome man! and thanks for subbing!

@MarkFraserWeather 3 месяца назад

Looks like you only need the priming on the 1st layer - perhaps when it is going slower?

@MrBaskins2010 3 месяца назад

wow man bambu is some witch craft, i never imagined multi color

@piteke100 3 месяца назад

bel test grazie

@skyriftnetwork 3 месяца назад

i swear i saw a video somewhere using the inside of the model itself as a 'prime tower'

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

that would certainly work if you have models with infill. There are some models that dont have infill, though😔

@skyriftnetwork 3 месяца назад

@@Lukis3D true! Would be a lovely option to have in the slicer though 👀

@notorious8167 3 месяца назад

Awesome video! I am new to 3d printing and videos like this is making it a way more enjoyable experience

@unc_matteth 3 месяца назад

i have a p1s and no ams (going to go get one soon). i do multi color by layer with pauses. ive done both. i find that when i load the new filament, if i just make it extrude 3 or 4 extra times, i don't need the prime tower and dont have any underextrusion issues. not sure how you could do that on ams?

@raphael153 3 месяца назад

2:43 Poop Größe ist einstellbar

@deviouscat0 3 месяца назад

Can I get a link to the purge tray you use?

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

of course, here is the link: makerworld.com/models/15603

@PaketPaketOff 3 месяца назад

Thanks for Video, subscribed. Im a beginner in 3d printing too. Bought A1 Mini combo couple weeks ago, haven't even tried AMS yet) Will wait for more Videos.

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

your welcome! and welcome to the club!

@k_DEDb07 3 месяца назад

great video thank you so much

@augustopaixao8911 3 месяца назад

Ótimo experimento. Foram poucas as entre os modelos.

@gravelrhoads 3 месяца назад

I just got my A1 Combo after using a CR-10S Pro V2 for years so I've got a bit of a learning curve. This video was very helpful. Thank you!

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

Glad it was helpful!

@CGreciful 3 месяца назад

That was the best analysis on the subject I've seen. Good job. I think it's pretty marginal, just depends on the person. For "artistic" prints keep it mostly on to get the best quality, for other situations, I turn it down or off. It's a separate decision for each print.

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

well said! and thanks for your comment🫶🏻

@mtlive4042 3 месяца назад

most excellent!

@Drehzahlorgel 3 месяца назад

Great video! Did you try the option "flush into objects infill"? I saw, that you deselected this option.

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

thanks for comment! and im glad that you saw that. My initial plan for this test was to keep everything at default as much as possible and only change the prime tower settings, so i could judge the results solely based on the different prime tower settings.

@backtoorigins8576 3 месяца назад

Nice video

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

thanks so much!

@oljobo 3 месяца назад

Very well made and very useful/helpful video 👍😊. Thanks! Subbed. 🥰

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

Awesome, thank you!

@ilansagital3519 3 месяца назад

great video, thanx

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

thanks!

@noobla 3 месяца назад

nice work!

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

thank you!

@peterhendriks1972 3 месяца назад

Thank you very much

@ingGS Месяц назад

All I can say is THANKS! I am a new 3D printer owner and I have been binge-watching all related content.

@Lukis3D Месяц назад

You welcome, and welcome to the hobby! Which printer do you have?

@ingGS Месяц назад

@@Lukis3D I got the Bambu Lab P1S combo. So far all I have printed are toys and demos, but I plan on using it for engineering purposes.

@3DWELT Месяц назад

Hi there! I'm having an issue with my Bambu Lab printer where the Purge Tower isn't printing, even though the option is enabled in Bambu Studio. I'm using a single filament (no AMS Lite), and while the model prints fine, the Purge Tower is completely skipped. I've double-checked the settings, but the issue persists. Does anyone have any suggestions or tips on how to fix this? Thanks in advance!😅😅

@Lukis3D Месяц назад

hi there, if you’re only printing in one color, you don’t need the purge tower, so thats why its skipped 😊 Unless you’re doing timelapse, then it’s gonna be activated.

@3DWELT Месяц назад

@@Lukis3D Thank you for your response, but I'm already aware of that. The problem is that during printing, my printer often leaves the model, moves to the upper right corner, lowers to the print bed, and then returns to continue printing. When this happens, a small piece of filament always gets left on the model. 😒😒

@kreinova2747 3 месяца назад

Are you Malaysian? Or Indonesian?

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

haha what made u say that?

@kreinova2747 3 месяца назад

@@Lukis3Dbecause of the word lukis. I speak Bahasa Melayu / Bahasa Malaysia / Bahasa Indonesia tooo.

@lunarmoved 3 месяца назад

Thanks for this info 😁

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

your welcome!

@Raiyo_Kirigaya 3 месяца назад

Thanks for this great test 👍

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

no problem, and glad it helped!

@GRainwater13 3 месяца назад

Good job!

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

Thank you! Cheers!

@krollmond7544 3 месяца назад

But there's still a ton of waste lol

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

unfortunately, yes. Since this video is focusing mainly on the prime tower, i kept the flushing volume multiplier constant (1.00), so alot of purging was expected

@koneesha 3 месяца назад

So really there's no reason not to have a tower

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

yup! unless you‘re printing something thats purely functional and you don‘t really care how it looks.

@drdoomslab 3 месяца назад

Nice one. I have shrunk the tower but never tryed it without. interesting results. Cheers.

@sebastian_olthuis 3 месяца назад

I use 4 x1c at work since it was released I legit only used prime tower when I forget to turn it off 😂. Btw if you wanna really reduce filament waste just play around with filament purge volume.

@Hairy_MF_Steve 3 месяца назад

I'm looking into getting into 3d printing. With the Bambu sale. I appreciate this video. I'm a complete noob and don't know much as I'm kinda jumping into this blind. The information was clear and the content didn't waste any time. Great job.

@Lukis3D 3 месяца назад

thanks for your comment! The A1 Mini is my first printer and its so beginner friendly and im having so much fun printing with it!