Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - SPOILER Talk 

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thanos was not the coolest character in infinity war. it was thor

It's a 7 out of 10.....I didn't like the ending, Wanda dying from falling stones.......or the bit with take her infront of her kids to scare them......just seemed like lazy story telling......they didn't nail the ending.....it was just cliche and boring

It also wasn't a horror movie.......far from it......

It also missed a cameo from Vision......he just didn't exist in this movie, and the kids didn't have any powers.....they could have stood up to her at the end with their powers etc

Love me too

Hopefully Emily Blunt is that mother...

She really made Invisable Woman into a widow

Gave me goose bumps

That shii was extreme asf for no real reason

Well they felt too overconfident because their doctor strange ended up the same way. Except their doctor strange gave himself up after killing Thanos. They thought they could do the same.

Kinda thought, when first introduced on screen, they're throwaway cameos soon to be killed off. Lo and behold, it happened. Although rather gruesomely done (for PG-13).

Well their Wanda didn’t become the Scarlet Witch or have access to the Darkhold. Essentially she’s the Wanda Pre-Infinity War. Still powerful but no reason to think she could take them all out.

@@FlashmanJW because she had her two kids that’s why lol otherwise she wouldve lost her shit like she did in the actual movie itself

I really like how “the smartest man in the universe” tells Wanda exactly how they’re going to stop her. That was super “smart” of him.

Exactly. We totally saw Wanda as a Jason Vorhees/Terminator style archetype. Incredible horror style antagonist.

Yeah fr. It was awesome, Wanda was awesome

When I was watching this I was like if the MCU got away with this then Morbius could've been like this too

Like a combo of Carrie and Jason Voorhees

@@Grimmsect she reminded me more of the conjuring , the ring or even Pennywise because she’s more supernatural a witch she is

I had that same reaction. Definitely gave me Omni-Man vs Guardians vibes

Golden chainsaw is captain Carter nuff said

@@GameReaper94 first thing I thought

@@miketrapper0464 she really was a cut above the rest

@@PitBoss_90 no doubt about that

Hi it actually wasn’t a neck snap. If you watch the clip in slow motion online you can see that she actually rips his entire head off!!

Spaghetti-fied Mr Fantastic got me.

The mouth shutting and him screaming blowing his brains out was more disturbing

loki😭

For me it was Blackbolt

Marvel has to be careful bc the writer is from Rick n morty. So that Illuminati scene reminds me of the episode of these defenders and drunk Rick just kills them so easily. Um… you can’t do that with beloved characters (Reed Richards, Charles X, etc.) bc ppl will get offended. It worked in that Rick n morty episode bc no one knows them so no one cares.

@@joshuachristopher5181 no one got “offended”. If you get offended at the deaths of fictional characters then you have to take a long, hard look at yourself in the mirror lol. It was definitely underwhelming though

@@zakwilliamson4951 agh. We dealing with comic book fans that take everything up the ass. And I didn’t say they was offended but I’m just saying be careful bc as a business you don’t wanna lose money. Shit, ppl lgbtq was offended that America didn’t admit she was lesbian.

I absolutely think that was the most cringy marvel fights I have ever seen

@@justus5277 Couldn't agree more. This movie had amazing moments and some of the most cringe marvel has ever had.

She is affected by the Darkhold book, it corrupted her and twisted her thoughts. It was enough to switch from "I accidentally hurt people in my grief" and " I'm willing to murder a child for my kids"

@@DarthRevan260 Yeah, they needed to do more to show how badly it affected her. Without that explanation it feels like a major jump from the end of Wandavision to MoM.

I agree.. I.felt like her ending was rushed Little.more fillers and it would have been half way decent But the sheer plot as you described it just didn't give me a reason to feel her pain and watch her go boserk and murder literally everyone was awesome but it's like that plot that makes me.think twice if I wanna watch it again lol

Yeah as a villain, the weird cadence and not quite good acting aside, Wanda doesn't have a presence that is frightening or a motivation that I care about.. her kids..? Whooooaaaa!

The thing is... they had a different movie planned for dr strange and she was not supposed to be a villain, yet. But script writer thought "nah she is too cool I want to make her a villain and dont want to leave that for other writer" or something like that. True story. So they scratched away the intended script and wrote this.

Except it made no sense. Why didn't she levitate instead of limp?

She also forgot she could fly in that scene.. Another blow to common fucking sense for a "cool looking" scene. Also, at the end of the chase when they went through the nexus, why didn't anyone just, I dunno.. Close the door to the nexus, so she couldn't follow them? Most powerful wizard in the cosmos, and he can't close a door so they have more time with the book..

Except they didn’t close the fucking door after them

Poetic.

good point

I highly highly doubt she died though. I just dont see MCU killing her, a major character, 'off screen'.

“Dies”

LoL She's not dead at all

Exactly my thoughts

Especially the part when she appeared behind that guy then whispered "Run". I got chills.

Wanda was an awesome looking horror monster

Yep I legit went “metal was fuckkkk”

That shit was on point!! Thought I was the only one that peeped how good it was lol

Yea that shit was great lmao

Ikr

Right lol one of the best impressions I’ve ever heard

I mean I’d disagree. She pretty much got over her grief by the end of wandavision at least to the point where she’s slaughtering people cuz of it. She was more psychopath than innocently in pain. I agree Olsen was amazin and she’s perfectly casted but the material was lacking.

@@George-bb9kr truly do not understand this OPs take lmao. At the end of wandavision she was unambiguously committed to learning her powers but accepted that she had done a bad thing and wanted to be different. This movie she just absolutely goes beyond that without a look.

She's like the reverse Loki,where he started of evil and gradually became a lovable rogue or anti hero. Wanda started off as a misled good person with crazy powers to become a full fledges psycho in this movie.

I agree with both of you, I loved her as the villain here, and it was the right way to go after Wandavision because she was definitely a villain already, inslaving an entire town tends to cause that lol.

She was straight up evil

They are fake kids. Her killing people for fake kids isn’t good writing. If they were real kids…yes.

@@StardustX24 then how is she having real kids in other universes ?

Raimi got to flex his muscles!

Yeah totally loved WandaVision season 2.

@@shiyamkhaledchowdhury6516 more like WandaStrange

Right? even a superhero team couldn't hold her down, and man the way she came out of the reflection trap, her movements as she did magic the fact she had god tier power, you could see how defenseless strange and wong when confronting them.

100% agree

Thing is, all of it could be prevented if (if there are infinite realities with infinite combinations) she went to a reality where Wanda died fighting Thanos but had children before that, she could’ve replaced the mother they lost. But then we wouldn’t have this great movie.

She became “Thanos” in a way. Cycle of violence right there.

@@Nightraven26 Nah, she's totally insane, she wouldn't stop there.

I feel like they made it pretty clear that she was also corrupted by her usage of the darkhold. I'm not saying that was the whole reason that she became a villain in this, but I think she was already in a really dark place after mind controlling that whole town. Then she starts studying the darkhold and it begins corrupting her desire to find a way to be with her children into someone who will just kill anyone to get to someone with the ability to cross universes. Then that's not enough because she wants the power for herself so she can cross universes whenever she wants, just in case. Finally, she's so corrupted that she decides she should rule everything. In the beginning even she partly recognized her corruption, which was why she talked about how sending the demon for America was the merciful option.

She has a female evil archetype which rather that acting outwards it bursts like a star and creates a black hole if you know what I mean .

Had you seen the WandaVision series? It made sense because Wanda really looked like she had continued from the results of that series. The end was what I thought would break her - no vision, her babies hate her and she became as destructive as Stark’s weapons.

yea the 3rd act was not long enough

The movie suffered from poor pacing. Definitely needed another 40-ish mins

@@leodouskyron5671 Agreed. Also, the post credit scene of the series was literally Wanda projecting a fake self that's enjoing the simple life while secretly studying the Darkhold

She is doing great! …At being a mass murderer!

Wrong. We would be more excited. Think when the Collector yells, “MAGNIFICENT!” In Infinity War. That’s us Wanda stans lol!

Don’t Star Wars fans do the same with Vader?

@@Mateocabrera2389 absolutely not. we understand where he comes from but no one excuses Anakin's actions. You're hell delusional if you think that we do. There's a whole video called the dark side of anakin skywalker and all the comments are like "Yeah did no one think to get him help" or "the jedi order so screwed him up" or in general pointing out his anger and why he was so pissed and how it was justified." but generally agree that he isn't to be excused from his actions. There are reasons for them. But no excuses.

@@dapperdabber13 dont even bother to argue with wanda fanboys, you be wasting your time lol

Yeah its cheesy for me too, but thats coming from Strange who in every universe cant be with Kristine, either she dies in every possible way or get married to someone else.... Yknow that hurts, but thankfully, Clea is here

My lil mama is a masterpiece. I aint even gotta be funny when I'm telling a joke she still gone laugh at me. Still smd when she mad at me

@@dranillaasrapti9333 Yeah that's exactly why it resonated with me. It felt less like a romantic line and more like a tragic one. The fact that he's in love with her in every reality and yet they can never end up together. I thought it really humanized Strange.

Trust me it will become a meme

@@brianlightman7 Everything becomes a meme now.

I wish someday we can get a good Dark Phoenix story showed in film that's actually good.

That was my first thought walking out of the movie. That would have been a great Dark Phoenix.

@@darkphoenix1836 One of the problems so far is everyone tries to rush to the Dark Phoenix story cause the popularity of it. But, there's a whole Phoenix saga that's need to setup the Dark Phoenix saga. Without that, it's just another "hero turns villian" story.

@@MyZ001 100% agree. The great thing with the MCU films is they take their time and set things up within each movie. Took at least 4 movies to set Thanos up.

I felt she had "plot magic" to a stupid degree. I kept thinking "why cant strange stop her?"

While it was brutal, it literally made no sense for Reed to expose Bolt's power. But the movie plot has to continue somehow

@@datboiashy2957 absolutely agreed unfortunately, for every good there is a few bad.

@@datboiashy2957 may be he wanted to show mercy and they were definitely to arrogant about taking on Wanda.

@@datboiashy2957 I see it as them being merciful and underestimating powers of a witch. I don't remember if they knew she had power of the darkhold (or whatever it's called) but even I didn't know she could change someone else's body like that. Her powers have never been explained well, which I see as a bigger negative than this one moment.

@@dagger0374 that was probably my biggest gripe with the scene, I knew she could warp reality to an extent, but I didn’t know she could just delete someone’s mouth. A simple scene when she first met strange where she says something about the dark hold giving insight into her true power of being able to manipulate reality, and she slowly getting grips on it, that would at least explain the sudden reality removing powers.

The point there was not "oh, they see me as a monster, what do I do now" (just go to a different universe). Through that interaction she had a moment of self-realization. That's why Wanda kills herself, cause she realized that she *did* turn into a monster, even though she was saying otherwise.

She realized the woman she became was not the mother of her children. She had become the very thing a mother wishes to protect her children from. It wasnt about what THOSE kids thought of her, it's about what she suddenly saw herself as: the villain.

@@jsnel9185 Sure sure, but Im still not onboard. She could have stopped being a monster, instead of killing herself (allegedly), no? I mean, her motivation for everything she did was wanting to be with her kids, and any personal self realization doesn't cancel out any of that, as far as I can make sense of things. If perhaps her core motivation was centered around how she was the hero, then realizing you are the bad guy would warrant a switcheroo. But she didn't. If anything, she seemed quite aware that her actions was of the "not so good kind" all along, she just didnt care, because being with her kids was so important. She has the power and tools to try again, and again, just as less of a monster - but suddenly didnt want to try that anymore, because she realized she was a little bit more of monster than she already knew she was? Thus suicide? Naah..

Well . . . This was verbatim from DOFP.

He actually said the same exact line in DOFP and it was meant for Mystique.. so no

This emovie has soo many plot holes and it was rushed on and a whole bunch of random nonsense that didn’t make any sense only to get a quick pay day but only the uneducated/delusional marvel fans will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣

@@ispeakfacts186 they should have did the 3 hour edit

@@jflores85 Gonna whine and try to defend these facts snowflake? I’ll have a bottle and pacifier waiting for ya 😘🤣. This movie was rushed on and a whole bunch of random nonsense that didn’t make any sense only to get a quick pay day but only the uneducated/delusional marvel fans will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣

I'm glad that the mcu took wanda into full villain mode and even let her savagely kill people. It was such a bold move.

Sorry but I gotta disagree. Turning heroes evils is overplayed and cynical. It’s shows that she’s learned nothing from the west view incident. To turn a character who was ready to sacrifice her lover to save the universe to a powermad selfish villain is a downgrade and one of the worst ways to send her off

@@shawnboahene5231 overplayed and cynical? I'm not sure how when Marvel movies have literally never taken an established hero and torn them down in such a way. You say cynical, I say refreshing. You say overplayed, I say bold as hell. Wanda was not in a good place at the end of WandaVision, not even close. If what you saw was her learning from her mistakes and then going back to being an avenger, then you weren't paying attention. WandaVision was about her dealing with Visions death and eventually letting him go. But even though she let him go, she couldn't let her kids go. She undid the spell, sure, but she definitely was not happy about it. We see her holding the Dark Hold at the end (which now we know) searching other universes where her kids still exist. Wanda's grief was not just one step, and this movie shows that. WandaVision was not about her making a simple mistake and then correcting it, it was a glimpse at what someone with so much power could do in such a stage of grief. It was a glimpse of what Wanda is capable of and how far sge would go for her own happiness. At her core, the Wanda we see in this movie, is just a mother who has lost her children and wants them back. Wanda is driven mad by her own desires and acts selfishly and wrecklessly. For those that love the character we have seen all these years, it's kind of tragic and that's why I appreciated it. Everyone thought they'd simply team up, but we got was way more nuanced and exciting then I, and many others, could have imagined. Scarlet Witch is not always the hero and it was awesome to see it here.

@@infinitybelt in my head i can only think of the sentence “grief is not linear” and i can’t explain wanda’s motive more than that, so i really appreciate you putting my thoughts into words

@@aeri_taylors-version a very concise and eloquent way of putting it. You are most welcome.

I stopped watching trailers years ago and am constantly happy I did.

@@Chyde109 Same and I appreciate movies in general so much more

What were the bad moments in your opinion?

Sheep

@@NiteF0X elaborate

@@Diego-xz3yc i'm wondering, too

@@Diego-xz3yc the kids singing about ice cream and how they just ran to the back of the stairs to get away from 616 wanda

And that just creates lazy writing because anybody can die at anytime and it means nothing.. zero stakes zero consequences..

@@mtabby8791 but that’s exactly how the comic are

@@mtabby8791Dc did a whole live pole in they comics to kill robin killed robin then brought him back 😂😂😂 happens all the time

@@mtabby8791 not necessarily true. Because not every movie is a multiverse movie. Where we saw them die is not the universe we have watched for the mcu. Reid Richards could still exist there or there could be a stand alone movie that could technically be in another universe without acknowledging it. Then if they have to do a team up it would be like spiderman no way home. My point is it doesn’t matter because it was in a random universe we’ll probably never go back to so they weren’t wasted. The Dr strange from that universe even killed an entire other universe. Meaning he probably killed all of our favorite avengers too. Did that matter to you? Maybe a little but not even close to the level of them getting dusted in infinity war. That’s basically what them dying in this universe was like

Yes but it could have been an insane fight seem

@Big Spill ?

@Big Spill what are you on about?

@Big Spill after seeing your profile picture, I'm really not expecting nuance or tact. You seem stuck in 2014 Gamergate youtube

@Big Spill So you're telling me someone can't have same sex parents? They didn't even hang on it two long, it's one scene and they're even referred to as just "parents" and not "mothers" afterwards. It's perfectly done to just feel... natural. Are you just... that stuck up your ass that a tiny scene showing something normal gets you all worked up?

@Big Spill based af, corny mothers and shit

I forgot which movie that was from. Thanks

I was vibrating of excitment and nerdiness during that line

I’m sorry i didn’t fuckin buy it. The whole Fuckin thing was dogshit

Love that Prof X was in this. It also helps fix some of the issues with that Fox X-Men universe, now that those are technically connected. The fact that there is a multiverse and variants helps explain the discrepancies and plot holes/inconsistencies between the Singer-verse Vaughn and Logan

I loved that. I love that his first instinct wasn't to beat Wanda but to help her.

Yeah I think the way they did in the movie was much better than a cop out alternative method of using the deus ex machina book. That would've been a jail free card to defeating the baddie.

I liked it when the waiter asked Dr.Strange"how's the pie?" And strange cums on his knee and says "so good"

I'm I the only one who thought The writing for scarlet witch was complete dogshit. It Ruined the movie for me, on top of that America gets to use her power just by saying believe in yourself after doctor strange told her that at the start. urhhh

@@jesseperez4185 so actually having read the script, its serviceable. The direction was botched because its another case of 2 movies Frankensteined together.

"You'll get your rent when you fix this damn doorbius, Morbius!" and then Jared Leto's Morbius flies in

Honestly I hated that scene. Dr Strange's hands are broken and only work normally because he uses magic to keep them fixed. Without his magic any damage on his hands would result in him experiencing excruciating pain. He should have never been able to punch Mordo

Hated it. A waste of those few minutes. Mordo was wasted.

Spider-Man’s end fight is on a whole other level from that crappy fight.

The music for that fight was the best in the movie imo. 80s electric guitar was kinda weird, & off tone though. Besides the xmen theme briefly there lol. Very good scene.

@@simos6jipros154 Hands worked fine, they just treembled and that made it a problem for surgery, otherwise they are fine.

He has no mouth, but he must scream!!

Black Bolt: * tries to scream * 🤯

This emovie has soo many plot holes and it was rushed on and a whole bunch of random nonsense that didn’t make any sense only to get a quick pay day but only the uneducated/delusional marvel fans will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣

Wah

@@ispeakfacts186 I disagree.

@@dragoon1090 Gonna whine and try to defend these facts snowflake? I’ll have a bottle and pacifier waiting for ya 😘🤣. This movie was rushed on and a whole bunch of random nonsense that didn’t make any sense only to get a quick pay day but only the uneducated/delusional marvel fans will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣

She’s a good villain but not the best

Well the Mordo here is from 848 universe and unlike the mordon from the main universe he’s not evil.

I think that was intentional to show the arrogance of the illuminati, but shows how prof X is different to them

They were incredibly arrogant after defeating their thanos. In my head canon that fixes the plot hole.

Nobody could get to the book. They mention that the Strange from that Universe was the only one that could open the door. Plot hole solved. You could argue that they couldve figured it out with help from Christine I guess, but I think there was more to it than just fitting the watch in the lock. There was likely still some magic Strange had to cast on it to open it. Even aside from that, Id argue that they were afraid of that power going into anyones hands. If they couldnt trust one of their own once, then they werent going to trust Mordo either.

@@raulitosway3279 yea that could be true. Just seems like a waste, we only saw two alternate universes, one with the Illuminati and one with one with the evil Strange. It sucks that we get to see any competent heroes from other universes. Mr. Fantastic is supposed to be one of the smartest in his respective universe. In the movie it seemed like it was his first day on the job by how many mistakes and bad decisions he made.

Agree.. I'm going to do the same.

I knew from the first trailer he was in it but even then hearing the ‘97 X-men theme kick in was amazing

that's awesome would have been great to now know about him,still,gotta love seeing people's reactions :D I work at a cinema,will enter the venue when that's happening 😂

film trailers are a must miss for me, they spoil films soo much nowadays it’s really a shame

From now on ima just watch the first initial trailer then no more, what I did today and it made shit so much better

I was excited for it but it honestly seemed kinda off. Idk, provably just me

I really hope it isn’t a one off casting. I feel like that would be really stupid of them if they cast someone else in the main universe as Mr Fantastic. Fans will riot lol

at first i didn’t want him as reed richards because fan casts usually suck like dylan o’brien as spider-man, donald glover as miles morales, and keanu reeves as adam warlock or wolverine. after seeing krasinski in the role though, i’m sold. although i really hope they don’t bring in emily blunt as sue storm

@@user-ey4ut9uc8w nah seem. Felt like I was watching a fan video. But I liked the movie overall

@@sunfade wtf just the same thought Jinx vro

I just didn't understand why he was wearing lingerie in that scene. Maybe someone who's read the comics can tell me why.

Spoiler warning pls!!

I can never understand why people keep making this joke across these videos.

@@nandotemplo he was just method acting

@@someblaqguy cause the movie was B A D

It's okay the rules don't make sense anyway

I get what your saying. Because that place where Kang was exists beyond time, the multiverse is now open across ALL of time

I also see it as the Multiverse was already happening (that's why there were variants) , but Kang just isolated the 616 universe from all others until he died.

Nah that’s well explained.

I agree completely. The TVA was located "outside of time" so there is no point in time when it happened. It affected all timelines. past present and future are just a matter of perspective "seen from where you are standing ". Its not as much a rule as it is a road.

yep, I felt the same way. She was awesome though.

Yeah, just some recognition of what drove her to change from giving up her kids and husband, to sacrificing everything to get them back would be nice.

I COMPLETELY agree with you. Didn’t make much sense to me. I see that the book just corrupted her again without her even realising it. Almost as if she didn’t know what she was doing for basically the whole movie.

Perhaps you missed it but I swear there was a scene in the end of wandavision or something where we see her walking around her cabin and everything looks fine but then it cuts to her actually in more of a scarlet witch costume going over the book So we see it's already corrupted her even though she regretted what she did she still had a piece of her that had hope for happiness perhaps which is probably what the book took and twisted. My headcanon was that she wanted to learn more about magical power after fighting Agatha and then ended up getting corrupted perhaps without realizing

@@whitetiger2200 yeah your not wrong but a lot of that is head canon and I feel like I just wanted it to be actual canon

Eh not really. I mean they had a telepath who could instantly read his mind and see that Strange was telling the truth. But bad writing has to push the plot forward.

@@NCMonefaith the point isn't if he is or isn't telling the truth about himself not being a threat or wanda being a bigger threat. The point is Dr strange is unpredictable, as he will go through any lengths to do something "for the greater good." By the way, Charles did already suspect and know this strange was different. When wanda breaks in and attacks the facility, they all go, except for Charles, who stays and tells Strange "if you do happen to escape, protect America chavez," which is Charles basically saying "I know you're going to escape. And I know you're good. Save the girl"

@@NCMonefaith I feel like Charles already had checked inside his mind. I think that even were Professor X to peruse Strange's entire mind and subconscious, he would still find the same thing in 616 Strange that he did with his Strange. The intention is pure and there was no deception detected. But intention is very different from the outcome, and its already established that even 616 Strange is willing to break certain rules in order to achieve what he believed was the greater good. I guess by then, they all agreed that the greater good isn't worth the means that he would use to get there.

@@OscarASevilla "The point is Dr strange is unpredictable, as he will go through any lengths to do something for the greater good." what a profound perspective about this plot point. thought provoking.👍

Wanda facing what she was truly doing was probably the most powerful moment but likely the most underrated moment because it wasn't a display of powers. I honestly didn't care about demons attacking, flinging themselves across multiple universes or their universe about to be wiped out but I absolutely loved that they showed the boys terrified by Wanda trying to take their mothers place and her realizing she is continuing a cycle of pain and trauma.

I agree. It is such an eastern concept of non-anatgonism and non-competiveness and letting the other's nature be their "undoing".

I very much agree with you! that's why I really like the third act or final 'battle' in both movies so much, in the first one Strange used his head and a clever trick to make Dormammu go away and in the second movie Strange used his humanity and trust in America. Strange didn't kill America/taking her powers, but trusted her to control it so America was in turn able to show Wanda what she had become.

@@jessecortez9449 great input. I would even add that in case she died for real at the end, its a great closure to her character same way Strange from the Illuminati let the others kill him because he acknowledged he was out of control.

Hugely disappointing that Chthon was clearly controlling everything but we never saw him.

I loved it.

Yeah Reed’s death really showed how far gone this Wanda was. I wish there had been a bit more buildup for the Darkhold’s corruption of her, because that was just cruel for the sake of being cruel.

Apparently it was even toned down in the reshoots.

Exactly, I didn’t realize how powerful she truly was.

Which scene was particularly bad?

@@Wxtsername In my opinion, I thought the tunnel scene just before getting to the good book dimension lost me after that last quiet moment. It seems to me that the crew's bag of tricks ran out and they just made Wanda turn a corner in front of the three. The creativity that I saw in things like Wanda's first attack and the mind battle between her and Xavier just wasn't there. Like I said though, it was outweighed.

But it should have ended with Doctor Strange becoming OP and beating Wanda's butt and then show her the reality of her kids being scared of her Could have been an extremely satisfying film if not for making doctor Strange a weak character in the film

@@peterparker9954 I seriously do not understand this criticism (edit: I do now, and it's just misogyny). The dude took over a corpse of himself in another dimension, harnessed actual demons, and wrecked shop until he had to fight one of, if not the strongest person in the multiverse at that time. America couldn't even do it, and she was punching holes in the universe itself. Strange was not weakened.

Omg, I would have died of happiness.

Bro I was hoping for a Magneto cameo. If he showed up to dig up Wanda's body and took her to Krakoa, I think I wouldve lost my mind.

That would’ve made the whole movie like Far From Home.

Was about to say this

also since loki's actions were outside of time, now things have technincally ALWAYS been that way

Yeah, I saw it more as him isolating his universe from all others. So the others are out there, it’s just that branching timelines will never reach them

I think there’s also a difference between timelines and other universes. I think each universe can have multiple timelines but a different timeline in itself isn’t another universe. America can’t travel timelines, the TVA can’t travel the universe (I’m guessing). I think that’s an important distinction.

@@miname262 The differences between the two are relatively thin however. The most important difference is that universes have larger more distinct differences compared to timelines, which contain smaller differences at certain points. But the basis behind them are similar enough. This can be seen with Loki and Sylvie, they are different people due to the timeline diverging, but only slightly, where as strange and his different universe counterparts similarly diverge, however so does the rest of their universes in massive ways.

literally just abt to comment this he sounded exactly like him lol

and right after he highlighted the comment saying he'd lost his touch, no less. I was like, "Bravo..." lol the voice was on point but the best part was that he totally nailed tony's descriptions of events. It was legit haha

The voice was really good right

Totally caught me off guard. 100% good. x)

My man if it took this movie to show you how much of a villain Wanda is and how powerful she is then you need to read some comics

That was her being reasonable.

@@joshuajoseph4176 You are very right. I do know that in the comics Wanda is essentially a god, I was going off her MCU interpretation which are usually weaker.

@@429gamer I understood that reference. *cue the (well deserved) boos and tomatoes*

@@creativepseudonym9872 Everyone in the comics is basically a god or incredibly powerful at some point in their hundreds of stories, it's the curse of power creep and a never-ending story so they have to escalate more often than not. It's like with Ice Man, at one point Emma Frost gets his powers and realizes he's way more powerful than he's being and can do it if properly motivated or unlocks his potential. Comparing comic counterparts with their movie counterparts is always bound to be a downside because it's one nerd comparing a million stories they've had vs. one movie character.

This emovie has soo many plot holes and it was rushed on and a whole bunch of random nonsense that didn’t make any sense only to get a quick pay day but only the uneducated/delusional marvel fans will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣

@@ispeakfacts186 really? what plotholes were there? I'm genuinely curious, cause a lot of the ones I've heard about are not really plot holes.

@@rationalthought don't reply to the spamming troll, they've been spamming the same thing on every comment.

Yeah people forgot that Kang said, THERE WAS A MULTIVERSE before he combined into one.

@@rationalthought Gonna whine and try to defend these facts snowflake? I’ll have a bottle and pacifier waiting for ya 😘🤣. This movie was rushed on and a whole bunch of random nonsense that didn’t make any sense only to get a quick pay day but only the uneducated/delusional marvel fans will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣

The secret end credit scene we all wished was in Picard...

@@tommenno 🤣🤣🤣

Patrick Stewart’s Professor X has died 3 times on screen now. 🤦🏻‍♂️

@@brucecrawford593 FR! He’s the new Sean Bean

I laughed idk to me it came off as funny

Nah you’re exactly right, I feel like because people care more about the movies they forget about the comics…where heroes come back every time they die and there is alternate versions of characters across space. Won’t be the last time you see any of these characters

“Fan service “ doesn’t mean good movie

I really wanted them to show off a little of Reed Richard’s powers so that we could get a glimpse of what his combat will look like in the fantastic four movie but I guess they chose not to use his powers at all in the slightest on purpose.

The waste of the characters is the issue, the power scaling was on point though Wanda could absolutely do what she did no problem.

@@_YourFlyIsOpen i mean did they waste strange cause the movie is called dr strange 2. Not reed Richards captain marvel or prof x you know. Atleast we got another dr strange movie made by Sam raimi and when fantastic four marvels or X-men comes out they will have all have the spotlight

The scene when strange and Wanda first fly up to talk to each other just before first battle reminded me of dbz conversations before battle

Great choice? It was in the comics

America Chavez looks like those generic plain video game characters the woke feminism culture tried to push to replace girls with actual bodies.

Chavez was awesome. Can't wait to see her powers grow

Strange and wong really dropped the ball for not checking up on wanda sooner, I mean she’s the one of the most powerful beings in the mcu and can bend reality and minds to her will. you would think it would be in the best interest of everybody that she’s mentally stable and somewhat happy and supported, but no, after the biggest red flag that was westville they left her alone with a demonic book known to corrupt people. What did they expect would happen?

That's what you get with Sam raimi

I was expecting Ioan Gruffudd's Reed.

Same. I saw the original teaser and that was it. I think most of the theater I was in missed those leaks, too, as there was a loud gasp from everyone when he came on!

Yeah they seemed to think Wanda wasn't as big of a threat as strange, and they were wrong

I avoided all spoilers and was equally surprised at Reed Richards AND Professor X's cameo

I actually don't think it was that hard to avoid spoilers for this movie, I didnt see a lot of vocal hype for this movie

Now I wanna see this

I want to see Scarlett witch vs dark phoenix

@@kavinab6629 Dark Phoenix is more powerful no contest.

Why would you say the Ancient One? Isn’t he god? Kinda silly…

@@thiskneegrow ancient one was the previous sorcerer supreme

Gave me Fantasia vibes, and I liked it.

@@LunarSault23 I was thinking Fantasia too when I watched that scene

At the end when Dr. Strange is screaming and the 3rd eye appears you hear those musical notes from the fight scene again. That makes me think that Sinister Strange is somehow part of him now. When Dr. Strange used the Darkhold to dream walk somehow Sinister Strange's spirit merged with him. Just a theory.

It reminded me of Scott pilgrim vs the world lol

THANK YOU. YES THAT SCENE WAS AWESOME!!!!!

It was a bold move for marvel to turn one of their avengers into a villain. Not many franchises would take such a risk.

This comment is a villain origin story 🤣

@@metallicnole4514 how was it a bold move she's the scarlet witch we have all known this would happen..

@@mullaoslo Taking a character and an avenger that people love and turning her into a villain is a bold move. Let's see dc do that with someone on the justice league.

What? why would you ever root for Thanos. Like at least Wanda's end goal of living with her children is something you can sympathize with but what about Thanos' goal would make you want to root for him? The word you're looking for is "sympathize with" not "root for" The state of MCU fans, man...

Send that message trough the multivers 😂

wasn’t really impressed by her character. strange and wanda were the best parts forsure!

@@jonathancappiello7554 M SHE U

I'm so freaking happy that I don't watch trailers anymore except for the teaser trailers. Because I was so shocked when I saw the illuminati come in. Only one I was "spoiled" for was Captain Carter. Like I'm not so mad about it because it's in the trailer, but at the same time... kind of annoying.

Me, too! Sam Raimi was the perfect director for this.

I didn’t know who the tuning fork guy is

@@mxmissy Captain Carter is not even a good character

@@mxmissy yeah, this was the first marvel movie I stopped watching trailers for and seeing Black Bolt, Reed Richards, and Xavier for the first time was so worth it.

I see what you did there ;) RIP black bolt

I really like black bolt though lol I never watched the show, but in the comics he's pretty damn cool

Right? And it physically hurts my eyes to see that people don't like her as the Scarlet Witch because damn, Elizabeth is a monster. No legit, if after this movie and people are still denying Lizzie's dominance over the character, they just dumb. Elizabeth finally showed us what she was capable of and Marvel just had to kill her. I swear if she ain't coming back, I'mma start fighting.

@@watdaforkman4436 she'll be back.

I miss her Russian accent,she was even hotter with that.

@@ericseitzler81 *Sokovian Accent

@@watdaforkman4436 lol. I wonder if she studied their language or Russian for that accent???

What Mouth

I honestly feel that made her a one note villain.

Wanda unleashed is always good imo. Her versus Thanos was the first we saw of this, and it was great.

Atleast now there would be no more excuses for Wanda from some people who says she is just an antihero. No, she is an selfish and evil person who also enslaved people because she was hungry for some robo ding-dong.

@@sebastianfigueroa8084 she’ll definitely be back

Perhaps in that universe their Mr. Fantastic is a lesser one lol. If I'm Blackbolt I would have said "you dumb f*ck" to Reed Richards, not directly ofcourse haha

lol

Lol

Also the entire musical note fight sequence

I think most people have forgotten about the Gargantos fight lol yea that fight had Strange using some cool magic. He dissected a bus, summoned creatures, and of course the giant mystic chainsaw

@@KillerTacos54 that part was retarded. I cringed so hard

100% but then on the flip side there is the Wanda vs Kamar-Taj battle where they use magic to shoot bows and arrows??? Of all the things magic can do, and they have a middle-age battle?

@@KillerTacos54 That just reminded me of Scott Pilgrim vs the World