I'm really glad that her character arc turned out to be a kinder one. Mostly protective of Donna and Rose but no longer in a mean and patronizing way as she used to be in the past. I absolutely love that development! 😊
@@friendlyotaku9525I love how quickly she turned into a sweetheart. She was only ever spiteful to the Doctor because she wanted to protect Donna. Seeing her smile at him and compliment him was amazing
Almost. Her attitude towards him from Series 4 has completely changed by The End of Time. We see her out on the street when Gallifrey is appearing, looking up to the sky and begging for The Doctor to save them. She now not only understands that these things exist, but also has a belief that The Doctor will save them, when she didn’t even believe in aliens at all when we saw her in The Stolen Earth. I think she actually probably appreciated The Doctor’s “then maybe you should tell her that once in a while” although she was angry and embarrassed at the time, it made her realise how harsh she’d been to Donna, and why she was so desperate to get away from her normal life and travel with The Doctor in the first place. It’s great character growth 😊
Boy did the Doctor’s line, “I loved that man.” about Wilf get me. Nice to hear though that Wilf is still going, being looked after by Kate. God, does it make me miss Bernard.
@@maartenvangeffen4508yeah I remember that now. They were magic together. I dare say the doctor was more open and honest with Wilfred than he was with anyone else.
@@jamaalellison3076 I think a lot of that too was the fact he was going to die, and Wilf was really the only person who was still looking out for him after everyone left at the end of Journeys End.
Can't help drawing parallels between Donna-Rose and Amy Pond-River Song: - Mothers are stubborn redheads - Daughters have curly hair - Daughters born affected by their mother traveling in the Tardis, and thus have some Time Lord tendencies - Daughters end up going by a different name to their birth name which starts with an R - Mothers tragically separated from the Doctor and end up living ordinary lives - Mothers have some extrasensory abilities due to exposure to space stuff
Sylvia's redemption arc! She's really become a better person in the years since we last saw her, I think what happened to Donna and becoming a Grandmother really changed her for the better, it's lovely to see and she even complimented the Doctor which she's NEVER done before!
@@friendlyotaku9525 Oh very true. But looking back at the End of Time, it's crazy to see how much she changed between Journey's End and then, especially her attitude towards the Doctor. When Gallifrey was crashing down, she was practically praying to the Doctor. And then at Donna's wedding, she's quite emotional over the fact that she's never going to see the Doctor again (or so she thought) and that he's dying. So her protectiveness over Donna and respect for the Doctor in the Star Beast isn't at all surprising.
17:45: The Brigadier would have loved that! A wheelchair... with rocket launchers. And when David's in the TARDIS at the end, they had to use drones to film in there because the set is *so damn big.*
...And the TARDIS was like, "right with you, Sister!" and put on an impressive fire-and-sparks show to help fool the Doctor this was all accidental. =:o}
I love Matt Smith, he will be my favourite probably but Tennant and Donna are just my favourites all time. I cannot see Catherine Tate without hearing her say "You, just, want TO mate! You're not matin' with me Sunshine!" I laugh every time.
So I knew where things were going with Beep the Meep, because I have read the original comic story this is based on (it was in Doctor Who Weekly in 1980). One thing I loved is that they made sure to get permission from the original writer and artist, Pat Mills and Dave Gibbons, made sure they got story credits right at the start, and there's some touching behind the scenes footage of them visiting the set, and being really pleased at how it turned out.
I think the comedy was absolutely fantastic in this special and really made it feel like the show jumped back 15 years. It looked amazing and all the characters had really good moments and I'm really looking forward to your reactions on the other two specials.
Nice little thing I picked up on: "Cold milk yeah?" "Well remembered" The Doctor has lived for more than a thousand years since "Journey's End" (technically four and a half billion if you count "Heaven Sent" as part of their overall lifetime), they've gained and lost new friends, made and defeated new enemies, said goodbye to old allies, got remarried and become a widower (again), saved the Time Lords and then watched them be damn near wiped out again, has gotten younger, older, and even become a woman. But even through all that, nestled somewhere deep in their impossible brain....they still remembered the way Donna Noble takes her coffee. If that's not a perfect way to sum up true close friendship, I don't know what is. A fab start to the 60th & Xmas special period, can't wait to see what comes next!
I wish they'd left it at that and not the whole "women can let the metacrisis go" and "male presenting Doctor" wouldn't get it. That just felt like RTD trying too hard to be inclusive to the point that he went to other extreme and became sexist to men. Also it doesn't make sense because the Doctor was a woman before this. They should've kept it in them for the rest of these specials because it felt cheap to have it go away that easily at the end
@@joevictor53 Yea, even though I'm a very progressive person, that line made me cringe a bit. I understand what RTD was trying to say but the way it was written came across as a bit patronizing and insulting to men which isn't the point of feminism in the first place.
Agreed the shared meta crisis should’ve only stabilised the energy so Donna and the doctor go searching for a way to fully cure it, that could’ve been a plot thread and resolution for the specials. The you’d never understand because you’re not a woman anymore was cringe pretty offensive, if you said that to a trans person that would be horrible. It should’ve been timelord and human not male presenting and female.
1. These days, it is the point of feminism. Find me a vocal feminist who doesn't do that. 2. The line ironically becomes transphobic when said to a man who used to be a woman just mere hours, or at least days ago. Tell "Shame you're not a woman anymore!" to a trans man irl. Go ahead. Let's see how they applaud you for shitting on men. Oh, wait, they'll call you a transphobic bigot and rightfully so. What on Earth was Russel thinking? Why did the director leave it in?@@tiekogalaxylatte8839
@@quantumvideoscz2052 Russel wasn't thinking, he was too busy snorting some of the show's budget up his nose to come up with some of that drivel dialogue.
I was all over the place...but in a wonderful way. Thank you David, Catherine, and especially RTD, for kicking off the 60th Anniversary Specials/Celebrations like this. From one Whovian (for which my first Doctor was the fourth... Tom Baker) to another: wonderful reaction. Btw, all's good. We do care (at least speaking for myself). Tech issues happen at the strangest of times. As a person who hosts scheduled watch parties, I've had my share crop up at the exact wrong times. Nonetheless, we've got your back. :) Thank you for all that you do.
8:59 I don't know if that's classed as a throwaway line or if you missed it but I actually really like that little self awareness, that we never heard him say the L word. Also brings me back to the Christmas Invasion "Is that who I am now, Rude? Rude and not ginger".
It may have taken you a while Jess, but I'm so glad you persevered and finally overcame the problems. Fantastic reaction. I knew you would love this. For the first time in a good while I'm truly excited to see new Doctor Who episodes.
Wow, Jess, your production chops are great: I wouldn't have even guessed at such a laborious process going on for you behind-the-scenes, as the reaction was seamless! And of course there's no need to apologize for when this (or any) reaction was delivered… we're just thrilled you were able to share the experience with us!
I’ve never clicked so fast for a RU-vid notification!! I LOVED this episode so so much - 10th/Donna are my all time fave doctor/companion and I was flooded with emotion from start to finish 😍 as soon as I finished watching here in the UK, I immediately wondered when your reaction would be up! Excited
So glad you enjoyed this! I pretty much experienced the same emotions and fun as you when watching this. It’s great have The Doctor and Donna back together. I agree that this special had the right amount comedy and levity to it.
I love that doctor who that has been a British staple is being enjoyed outside the UK I also love that you watched previous episodes and didn't jump right to the 60th cause you wouldn't understand it otherwise
Tennant was speaking from the heart when talking about Wilf. He and his wife Georgia grew so close to Bernard Cribbins they named on of their sons Wilf in his honour. Tennant also admitted that there was very little by way of acting from him when doing the TARDIS interior reveal scene, as he was genuinely impressed and delighted with the new interior. Finally did anyone pick up the reference to The Doctor Dances? Ecclestone, standing on a chair, trying to resonate concrete to escape the hospital before Jack teleports the Doctor and Rose to his spaceship.
Another reactor pointed out how accessible the new TARDIS interior is. Maybe Shirley Anne Bingham will get the chance to see it soon? I really like her a lot, and I want to see more of her!
Thank you for everything you do to get content to us, and never be hard on yourself about speed or anything else. 99.9% of us are happy to wait for your content for as long as we have to. The other 0.1% are slugs!
Truly feels like Doctor Who being back when I also have a sesska reaction to watch (and cry to)! 🥰 Sorry you had such a hard time with the episode ❤️🥲 Sounds like a hassle, but it was not something that I picked up on in the reaction itself. Totally feel for you and your frustration though, thank you for all the effort you put in for these reactions as always. Just glad to have your company so to say in this 60th anniversary! 🎉
The only part that I didn't like, about the episode was the bit about The Doctor not being able to understand how to let it go, because he is now male... The rest was pretty fantastic!
Yeah that line felt awkward to me and I didn't really understand it. Felt like one of Moffat's earlier "teehee men Vs women" lines (and I say this as a defender of his) and seemed out of place.
@@hanonhold Feel like RTD did it on purpose to piss off the "anti-woke" crowd. Made sure they can't deny that Rose is Transgender and all that stuff by putting it in their face.
@@hanonholdIt did actually remind me a lot of one of those Moffat lines (in a negative way). Maybe I'm just not getting it though. Anyway, loved the episode aside from that
Felt like RTD trying too hard to be inclusive and messing it up. The other stuff earlier in the episode was great. But this just reminded me of the stuff he said about Davros and disabled people. It has the vibes of people that try to say autism is a superpower in their films/shows and it ends up just feeling insulting
@@joevictor53 Yeah I think people forget that just because RTD is gay and has done a lot of great work for gay visibility in television he is still a cis middle aged white guy so he's still totally capable of falling into the same traps as straight writers when it comes to tokenizing characters or falling back on stereotypes. Most women don't want female characters going "lol women are soooo much better than men!" and most trans people don't want characters whose gender is some kind of alien super power. We just want to be included and accepted and visible. I like the episode and give him props for doing his best, his heart is obviously in the right place, but this is one of those times I wish British shows would use the American concept of a writer's room with diverse voices contributing material 🤷 ETA: also as a wheelchair user I found the Davros stuff a bit ridiculous since I've never considered him to be a character that uses a wheelchair or thought of him as disabled, but then I know other disabled people who welcomed the change and said the character had been a source of bullying for them over the years so I guess it comes down to personal experience. I think it would've made more sense to just retire the character than to retcon his backstory which really messes with the history of the Daleks.
If it makes you feel any better I had to watch in multiple parts too. LITERALLY as I'm watching the episode, my internet went out. I got a few minutes in before it died. Then it worked...then died again and I had to go to work. Finally got to watch when I was on my break and it perked me up so much. Loved the entire episode and can't wait for your reactions to the next specials. Sending love.
Genuinely our of all the reactions I was anticipating yours the most. Especially one particular part. Lol I've really been anticipating this for a long time and nearly nowhere did it disappoint.
Just found your channel, love your joy at this episode. I thought it was such a good mix of action and fun, I’m really looking forward to the next two.
This reaction was as near to perfection as I've ever seen and you covered any glitches wonderfully. Well done and although you can't see me, I'm giving you a great big round of applause x
I was looking forward to seeing your reaction :) Thanks for sharing.You.re always so heartfelt . Donna is my fave companion, lovely to have her back.Sylivias concern as a Mum shone, as did Donnas.That TARDIS interior was amazing!
This was a 90% perfect episode. A few questionable lines I didn't like, but this is the most engaged I've been into Doctor who in years. I feel guilty and said about Jodie's era. Because she didn't do anything wrong, I felt embarrassed for her. When I shouldn't be because she probably isn't. I just wasn't feeling her writing at her music. Everything else about her I absolutely loved. David Tennant was s tier as always. I got to see him do doctor rage again. And he really gave me end of time level acting. The meep was scary?! When they first heel turned, my first thought was Donna had this thing around her daughter. It could have been it for the both of them. When the car got shot up and there wasn't any damage and they addressed that later on. I thought to myself bro we are freaking back. This episode was a 9.5. For me, I loved it, and I'm so excited for the next adventures
A thing I found out is the meep apparently comes from a old Marvel UK Dr Who comic, and the creators of the Meep are gushing about it, not just the way it was treated but the way they where treated, which is rare in Comics, they feel so respected and yes where given financial renumeration over their creation which can be a huge issue in Comics. I know it's on the face of it a small thing but, I feel so good that they treated them apparently right, I hope not to learn it's all PR at some point
any failure Jodie's era I place wholey at the feet of Chris Chibnal. After the first series it felt like he didn't know what to do with the tools he had. You only have to look at what he did to the Master and Galifrey to see that.
I'm sorry to hear that you had so many problems making this. It is appreciated, cuz I love your reactions. I'd suggest relaxing with a nice cup of coffee, but as the episode demonstrates, that can sometimes cause even more stress.
What a brilliant episode to kick-off the 60th Anniversary specials, like as if David, Catherine and RTD never went away. Absolutely adore the new TARDIS console room, which might rival Peter Capaldi's in being my favourite console room to date, feeling like the perfect blend of the Capaldi's, Matt Smith's and the original 60's version. The plot of The Star Beast is an adaptation of the original comic book version from 1980, which saw the Fourth Doctor and K-9 with the Wrarth Warriors and Beep the Meep. The original creators of that comic, Pat Mills and Dave Gibbons (the latter of whom is the co-creator of Watchmen), actually got to visit the set to meet Tennant (both signing his copy of the comic) and got to see their creations come to life.
You did an amazing job of getting the reaction out given the issues you had - it wasn't obvious that it was in discrete sections. You're right - Sylvi shined so much in this episode.....my favourite moment is her desparately trying to hang on to normality by answering Shaun's enquiry with "Tuna Madras" whilst chaos reigns around her!
I feel like him being able to admit that he loves Wilf and Donna is all due to 13's growth and her positive regeneration that wasn't filled with any pain or regrets. This might trickle down to the 15th Doctor as well. We need some positivity for the Doctor for at least a little while
And the conversation with Sylvia and Donna about Rose. That's the way to do it. I remember when one of my kids came out. It took a bit of time for me not to make slip ups. And he always understood and accepted all my apologies. Brilliantly done.
First great reaction and sorry for all the trouble you had hopefully you will have better luck next time. This was the best doctor who in a while and I'll admit when the credits rolled I cussed like no I want more which is something I haven't said about doctor who in a while probably since Graham left as companion but man this episode had everything and more till the next reaction hope it goes better for you
The one sad thing is that Bernard Cribbins who played Wilfrid is no longer with us😢. He was a British national treasure and I'm expecting an emotional tribute funeral scene for Wilfrid in one of the next two specials. 😢
The TARDIS console is on fire, The doctor and Donna are being flung into the unknowns of time and space... so I guess they are being flung into the wild blue yonder. Sesskasays: "OH NO!... is the coffee machine ok?" Priorities.
I loved the new TARDIS interior, but I do hope all that space will have or be put to good use in future stories! Also a little annoyed that considering this show is immensely British, that it’s a coffee machine in the TARDIS and not a tea…machine. It’s rather American for it to be coffee and not tea, and especially because this Doctor loved a cup of tea, considering it brought him round in The Christmas Invasion. But that’s a small gripe. Doctor Who is back in big budget, insane production quality glory, and I’m here for it!
Hiya. 99,000 subs! Come on, people! Where are the last 1,000 to get Jess that Silver play button??? How about before Christmas, eh? Stay safe. All the best to you.
Thanks for not spoiling at the beginning. I have managed to avoid most spoilers but sometimes people just blurt them out. I think I know who you mean because of another reactor saying something but if anyone else is still unspoiled I am happy for them.
Boy, what a design flaw in the Tardis. It has a built-in coffee machine, but it blows up at the first sign of spilt liquids. In the very least, it should dispense the coffee in one of those Stanley travel mugs.
Beautiful TARDIS redesign, and Donna and her mother fit right back into their roles instantly. It was perfect (like Donna's coffee). But the ending was too easy I think. All you had to do was "let it go?" and he didn't think of it because he's a man? I mean c'mon.
10/14 is MY Doctor! This was a great reaction 👏🏿 I shared in the heartbreak, joy, wonder, laughter, and sheer fun! I enjoyed Jody, but David Tennant just fits into the role so effortlessly. He knocks out every beat and emotion. How lucky we are to be getting such high quality Who! What a time to be alive 😁
Oh I was waiting for this video to drop :) Was the episode perfect? Not in my opinion. Bits of it were a bit clunky. The metacrisis resolution could have been better delivered, for sure. But I HAD SO MUCH FUN. It's been almost 6 years since I had this much fun watching Doctor Who (well... not true in the sense I have done rewatches, listened to audio stories and watches classic but in terms of new stuff). I had a blast with so many aspects of it. Can't believe we are here but I am fully into the ride.
Think it might of been more a talking with hands moment where she forgot she was holding the cup. I've done dumb things like that before if I'm not paying attention but it did look pretty much on purpose lol.
Yes, you probably noticed that many people here love Donna, the point is that Donna is a character and the new classic was filmed for a whole season, she was nominated as the best companion of times. I'm glad to see her again that she was brought back from the new classic Doctor Who.
I’ve kind of come full circle, series 4 was where I started watching you and now we’re here. I haven’t been super active in comments lately but I wanted to here to mark that happening but also to say thank you for enduring so much stress so get this to us, it’s really appreciated
It's really nice that you feel like you can vent to those of us who watch to the end, I'm sorry you had such a difficult day. I honestly didn't notice any lack of quality later in your reaction, you were great. The episode didn't feel much like a major anniversary special, but I guess we're coming off the back of the BBC Centenary special which packed in a lot of the nostalgia, and Tennant & Tate were back (along with Sylvia who was excellent in the kitchen scene, not so sure about slapping The Doctor across the face). I don't think this was an episode I'll want to rewatch anytime soon, but for the people who've been pining for the Tennant era I can see how it would have been excellent, that just wasn't my preferred era of the show. Very happy to hear the Middle Eight in the end credits though, so it's strange what matters to different people eh 🤪
Her slapping the Doctor made perfect sense, considering how hard she and Wilf have worked to keep Donna safe from the truth that would kill her and the Doctor just pops up at the front door as if nothing had happened. She gave him her highest compliment later so I think it's all water under the bridge.
@@SlyAceZeta Given all the other messages in the episode, "It's OK to hit people in the face with no warning" doesn't sit well with me. There was absolutely no other mention made of it, literally just you can slap a man in the face if you want to and there will be no consequences. Combined with Rose jumping on The Doctor for assuming pronouns and the whole "male-presenting" bit at the end with Rose, Donna and (for no apparent reason??) Shirley all smirking at him, it's like The Doctor is the literal punching bag for every female character in the episode. It's not the right message to send and it's a really poor way to treat the title character and 'hero'.
@@bobblebardsleythe doctor got slapped for putting Donna's life at risk. The last time he talked to her, he literally told her that Donna remembering him would kill her. The male-presenting line was awkward, especially since saying it would NEVER occur to the doctor in the episode after Whittaker regenerated into this face... But it's really one of those lines that only offends you if you're looking to be offended. Are you the sort of person that couldn't let go of power? If no, the comment isn't really about you. If you are... The point offends you because it struck a nerve.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg isn’t it a dig at male timelords anyway? They seem to always be the most power hungry and egotistical of the bunch. Rassilon and the Master being the prime examples, Missy learns to let go but the Master would rather die than ever give up what he has, Rassilon quite literally got exiled because of his unwillingness to let go of the power he held.
@@chazo1367 if you recognize that ALL timelords are male AND female, at different times - the questiin answers itself. If biological measures are temporary, they are irrelevant. I'm timelord society, then, 'male' and 'female' would be presentations of self - someone who BEHAVED 'male' by their metrics, would be 'male'. RTD even kind of confirmed this in the episode. The Doctor is described as not understanding about the option to just 'let go' of power because the Doctor is 'male-presenting'. This is despite the fact that 1 of the last three Doctors has been biologically female. Clearly, being 'male' isn't about biology.
