Doctor Who 9x12 Reaction 

I count the S9 Finale as three parter (Face the Raven-Heaven Sent-Hell Bent), but some people don’t. I’m really happy to find a reactor who loves this episode because I do too. Whilst not my favourite finale, it certainly is up there with the best. Possibly second place? But I honestly don’t know...

"It's like I have armour up now, and nothing else can hurt me." Oh you poor, poor thing.

Enjoyed the reaction, despise the episode.

JustSoShayla I adore you girl....

The last three episodes wrapped up the story so nicely. The story arch for Capaldi's Doctor and Clara was just amazing. There was closure and there were consequences, but it was rewarding to watch as well.

This is a perfect comment for this reaction!!!

@@michonneokoye4990 I just was about so coment the same, but there had to be more of them...

Hello??? Haven´t you seen "Husbands...."? It´s 12´s voice saying "No you don´t!" !

@@chanceneck8072 11 said it a lot too. When he called her Mrs Robinson she said "I hate you" and he said "No you don't". When he said she has the he's hot when he's clever look he said it again then too etc

axl the slacker there was never any armour really, just the illusion

Let’s wait till the next Christmas special and the season 10 finale C:

Doctor to Clara "Do you think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference? Doctor to Me "You will save Clara and you will do it now or I will reign hell on you for the rest of time!" Doctor : "Didn't find anyone to match up to Danny? Clara : "There was one other man but that would've never worked out." Doctor : "Why not? Clara : "He was impossible." Clara : "Look at you! All happy. That's rare." Doctor : "You know what's rarer? Second chances. I never get them so what happened this time? I don't even know who to thank."

I love them but it wasn't actually 4 billions years from his point of view. Versions of him died over an dover but the last version, the one that broke out of there, did not experience all those years. It was days weeks or months at most.

Honestly, the pair have the best chemistry of them all.

@@IsiahChan7052 He forgets when he makes a new body, but then he ends up remembering every time he faces the diamond wall. He says it in the episode.

But I can remember, Clara. You don't understand, I can remember it all. Every time. And you'll still be gone. Whatever I do... you still won't be there.

@David Roberts Definitely didn't just go 'up for Matt' seeing as Tennant had higher ratings then both. Personally 12's era just never really clicked for me, didn't feel like the same show. Nothing against Capaldi as he is a great actor but for some reason never has the impact the previous 3 did imo.

Auto-Bahn Kenobi they slid more with Whittaker...yuc...

"They slid more with Whittaker". She literally got double the ratings.

@Dan Stark The ratings went up for Matt Smith because that was when Doctor Who became a hit internationally. The growth was in the international numbers. The numbers most people refers are the UK numbers.

@@RetroCornish Not even that, the first Capaldi season has almost identical ratings all the way through to Matt Smith's last season. The drop happened *between* series 8 and 9 which is weird. Part of this is probably down to how the series was marketed/shown which I remember being 'same old, same old, also stick it whenever'

I mean, they _are_ attack eyebrows...

The attack eyebrows and the inflatable eyes

@@JayceMaxwell best super hero duo name

Did you notice the tune playing in the diner at the start?

...And the episode AFTER that.

chaospoet Well not really...It's a nice filler, but there isn't any character in it that had any big precedent in the show

chaospoet And it's not a very emotional episode

There is only a lot of emotion in the last scene of that episode

Yes that Christmas special is wonderful. As for 12s regeneration that is a stunningly good episode. Capaldi at his best

This was my absolute favorite episode, not to mention it was the first season i watched as it aired...biggest wait ever for the next special.

Amanda Logsdon it really does get too much stick! And that is a tough time to first start the show live!😭

Ah glad you enjoyed it as much as I did! 12/Clara are also (maybe?) my favorite.

Liam Kershaw-Calvert it ruined both the previous episodes, it ruined Face the Raven by bringing her back when she had a great send off with her facing death and joining Danny and it ruined Heaven Sent with the Doctor coming to terms with Clara’s death, only for him to bring her back,the hybrid mystery box was unnecessary, Clara’s arc should have been the main story arc but this episode ruined her story arc of her being reckless and being Doctor-like which resulted in her death, showing that the Doctor’s lifestyle is dangerous but now she gets to live forever being almost like the Doctor

"I miss 12 and Clara constantly, they are my ultimate pairing" cheers to that 🍻

Well said.

And Bill was the Doctor's student that wanted his knowledge

Donna wasn't 11's buddy?

@@thundervoid420 10`s buddy...

I did enjoy it! Don't remember how long it lasted but the break was amazing! That line came full circle and owch.

@@JustSoShayla also, there is a lot of 'forgetting' themes vaguely mentioned. 11 swears he'll never forget, 12 jokes about forgetting Clara once, and her whole theme was 'run you clever boy, and remember me', and I wonder if that's what she told him in the cloisters. Also I don't think she's coming back

And the Doctor is surely clever enough to put two and two together and realize the woman that was painted on his TARDIS could only be Clara... and that he didn't recognize her in the diner.

I think it was mainly because people were expecting a great Gallifrey showdown, and instead it was more focused on the Doctor's and Clara's relationship. I think it's fitting, since the entire reason for Heaven Sent and Hell Bent was Clara's death and the Doctor's resulting rampage. That had to be resolved first. Also, Moffat originally planned to leave after this season, but some conflicts have come up and BBC asked him to stay for one more year. I can imagine how he might've wanted to leave exploring the post-War Gallifrey to his successor, so it'd stay consistent and would be easier to present in an entire season rather then a single episode.

@GhostPlay I like the episode overall (though the script, if they had kept in certain lines/scenes would have taken it to be almost as good as Heaven Sent, imo), but I _love_ Clara trying to be like the Doctor and accepting the consequences of it... but her getting to walk away from it kinda cheapens it a little... but I can kinda imagine some exec taking a look at Raven through to Husbands and then insisting on a "happy" resolution so that people aren't on a downer during the holiday season (since series 9 was airing right through into December). Even though she's loving the show, I'm glad Shayla's taking (took?) a break after this one, for that reason. A nice clean slate for Christmas.

@GhostPlay Well, exactly - both view points ARE opinions... which you wouldn't realise from some of the grief that's directed at those expressing a positive opinion about it online! It felt like there was an orchestrated hate campaign against this episode... and anyone suspected of supporting it.

@@LightLMN "but I can kinda imagine some exec taking a look at Raven through to Husbands and then insisting on a "happy" resolution" I'm pretty sure that this was Moffat's planned ending to Clara's arc, at least from Season 8. I'm virtually certain that it was his own creative choice, and not the whim of some exec. Moffat has a long history of having companions and other significant characters die and then bringing them back one way or another. Clara's ending is consistent with that.

@GhostPlay I've never understood the criticism that the Doctor bringing Clara back cheapened her death or was stupid. It is clearly in line with the Doctor's character. "I'm the Doctor, and I save people!!!" After he got to Gallifrey, he only had two real options: Burn down the Time Lords in vengeance for Clara's death, or save her. Saving her was perfecting in character.

@@JustSoShayla

@David Roberts Cool down? A lot of people who rank episodes dont like this one. It also was a lower rating from some rating sites.

i would have preferred it if she didnt go flying off in a tardis and instead just faced the raven. would have made a pretty emotional scene. also a lot of the cheesy speeches and melodrama near the end could have gone too, but the ep as a whole really isnt that bad. its more just missed potential

I hated all the stuff on Gallifrey and I hated her flying off in the TARDIS.

@David Roberts On Doctor Who discussion boards that I'm familiar with, this episode tends to get singled out for particular opprobrium. Not that there aren't plenty of people who like or love it, but it definitely gets a disproportionate amount of hate. There's nothing statistically significant in that, but it's definitely there.

@@crunchyfrog63 I never listen to reason.....

It was A NIGHT. I am also glad I ended on a happyish note.

11:23 - "(-through tears-) Fuck...I'm so sick of this show..." Me: That's what I came here to see. XD Seriously though, I love your reactions, and you're always brilliant. Keep your spirits up, yeah? -hugs tight-

Firefly 24601 You mean 10 and Donna??

Haha you mean 10 & Donna (they're so good!). I totally agree though, series 9 & 4 are my absolute favorite series of New Who.

@@RetroButt Same. Season 10 being third and 6 being fourth. Then 5 and all the others can be chucked in any order.

@@RetroButt I'm glad you stressed modern who, and agreed, I grew up with classic who and for me its the 4th doctor

Oooo okay awesome, that's what I've been thinking in my head since I watched this episode.

Oh wow, thank you so much!

Ikr

It's a matter of opinion but she died 2 episodes ago it was stupid bringing her back and ruined her initial death in the 1st place!

Thank you! I try that outlook on everything I watch, cause why bother with the negatives? SO much better when I can sit and analyze but in a positive way.

@@JustSoShayla Its just more fun to have fun. I have become so sick of the entitled fans of Star Wars, Doctor Who, Star Trek, Game of Thrones etc, just ripping apart the shows they 'pretend' to enjoy, for the views. And not in a Satirical "How it Should Have Ended way", but in a "Here is My personal Fanfiction: Why didn't [x] make my Fanfiction for me?" Or even worse, to be seen as rebelling against 'Political Correctness'. As if they are forced to consume the media they do, and haven't made a conscious decision to watch the shows and films they watch. Its more fun to have fun. To enjoy the shows, to be surprised, to suspect disbelief. And if it doesn't tickle you this time? Oh well. There is always next time. I know people that weren't fans of Capaldi, that loved Matt Smith - and vice versa. In a series like this, its *fine*, both groups get something they can enjoy. Then wait, patiently, enjoying the bits they like, and rolling their eyes at the bits they don't like, until it rotates around again, a we get a new companion, a new Doctor, a new Tardis, a New Sonic. And if you really prefer the old, and don't want to adapt at all? Thats fine. The DVD's are available. And there is an anniversary coming up. Doctor who isn't for everyone. It *Has* something for everyone. And that is what makes it last in my opinion. That's why its TV's Longest Running Sci-Fi series of all time. Not because its always good. But because it changes, and adapts, and embraces the new and different. I just sometimes wish the fanbase would embrace that philosophy more. And there is always, always, so much more to come. Thanks for enjoying the series, and sharing that enjoyment with others. Whether its laughing, crying, or screaming in frustration. Its just fun. There's enough misery in the world. Why not just have fun?

Rudddeeee.

it's great series with Capaldi and Jenna,I love this couple

Oops, just posted almost exactly the same line before seeing this. Err, great minds think alike ? ;)

Jenna Coleman and Maisee Williams in "The Impossible Girls"..........coming soon (let's hope)

@@mikebarlow214 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! we certainly do NOT need it!

Husbands is first

@@iz723 yea

@Just Jay I know it took a lot of people to warm up to Peter, but I loved Peter right out of the gate. I thought his entire tenure was wonderful. :) Everything I see Peter in is wonderful! :)

I started watching about the same time, I can remember Troughton regenerating, and would agree on this pair being so special. Probably the two best actors paired together in the history of the program, Peter Capaldi has always been great, and Jenna Coleman is an exceptional talent. If only they had stopped at this point and avoided the Chibnall disaster. It will be a though casting now as few are going to want to take a show where the ratings are tanking so hard.

@@tashatsu_vachel4477 I'm hoping there's a writer who grew up with the Doctor, who loves the show enough to save it. We need Chibnail to regenerate!