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I'm afraid that I think that you have misunderstood large parts of this story - and I think that is because you were so fixed on being offended because it seemed to be criticising "younger people" (and particularly those who are in a certain "social strata") - people closer to your own age group and background, so you decided to feel a little "attacked", personally.... and that then skewed your view of the whole story. Yes, stereotypes are "bad" - but they exist for a reason. Like some myths, there is an element of truth within... and they can be a quick way to get a point across, which can be important if you only have a limited amount of time in an episode. The idea of not even being able to walk, if you weren't in the "Bubble" was a bit silly, and at first I thought that it was ridiculous - but I think it was just an exaggerated way to express, in a short time, how much their society had become actually dependant on the technology. "You can't even walk, if the Bubble doesn't tell you how to"... kind of thing. I could hear parents saying that to their kids, today... not because they actually believed it would be true - a bit like "If the wind changes, your face will stay like that". It's not meant to be taken literally! But it is exaggerated in the story, to make a point, and to provide an obstacle to the characters, slowing down their escape, to provide some light tension in the plot. A few points... I think that it was fairly clear that Lindy wasn't a "nice" person, from the start (and it wasn't to do with her age) - the sense of entitlement, and the level of self absorption, was there from the beginning... not just with Lindy, but most of her friends, too. RTD has said that this is an idea that he had over 15 years ago, but wasn't able to make it back then (or something like that), so the basis of it might feel a little dated - but the cautionary tale of the over reliance on being in your own "tech bubble" and more concerned with how many "likes" you get on social media, over being aware of what is happening in "the real world", which might be more important than watching your umpteenth "Make-up tutorial", is still very much a thing! If this had been made 15 years ago, then Lindy and her peers would be 15 years older now - and *still* be in their bubble, if you see what I mean. So, yes, it may be the "older-than-teenagers" that, today, are the ones in our "real world" who are addicted to the social media bubble - but that is part of the point that is being made. They were addicted 15 years ago, and they still are now - and so their offspring are learning from that example - and YES, the "younger people" who are coming-up behind them, are still doing it too! Additionally, it was made fairly clear in the story that it wasn't only the "young people" who were obsessed with being in their bubbles. Lindy's mother was too, and when we see that the entire "home world" had also been wiped out by the slug-things, that's an indication that the same "invasion" had happened there, for the same reason. The other moral lesson - their objection to the Doctor's "difference"... it is very heavily implied that it is because of the colour of his skin - but it isn't explicitly said, and I think that was quite clever. The Doctor had already indicated that he was "interested" in Ricky September (and he might have said other things whilst around the others that made it to that "safe area") - so the "difference" that they were objecting to, might have been his sexuality. It could have been just that the Doctor (and Ruby) seemed to be from a "lower" social strata.... or just the fact that he wasn't on their "friends list", and so was judged as not being worthy - like the poor "P-surnamed girl" who was on the list immediately in front of Lindy, who Lindy had never encountered before, and probably would never have spoken to, if it hadn't have been for the fact that she was the next victim, prior to Lindy herself. It could just have been that both the Doctor and Ruby didn't fit the narrow confines of what their society regards as aesthetically attractive, or specifically with regard to the Doctor, it could have been that he was simply "older" than them - I don't think that the Doctor's moustache was an accidental choice... it was there to make him look older, for a reason. In fact, the point was mostly about his skin colour, I'm sure, but it could easily have been anything that was different to them. In our "Real World", there are many people around who seem to have the opinion that anyone who is different, for a variety of reasons - race, religion, educational achievement, disability, social background, age, attractiveness, health/fitness level, whatever - is somehow considered to be a "lower life-form" just because they *are* different (and unfortunately, in some circles, that kind of way of thinking seems to be growing. *That's* why this story is *still* relevant, and maybe even more so. In any event, if Chinball had written this story, the Doctor would have been carrying 2 wet kippers around with him in his pockets (because it was often something that Jodie had in her pocket, from the start, that solved the problem). One would have "Racism" clearly written on it, and the other would have "Social media self-absorption" written on it, and the Doctor would have saved the day by slapping everyone around the face with both wet-kippers, and they would have seen the light, and their society would have been changed, and the people saved from themselves (and the slug-things would die, because they are allergic to kippers). It wasn't a perfect story, perfectly written - but it was a much better way of getting the "social commentary" in. So much was said (especially by the Doctor and Ruby... but also by the other characters) by not saying the quiet bit out loud. And so, I think a second viewing, for those who need it, might help to make the episode make more sense, overall.
"id love to see him running down some corridors", well said Dan. Who would've guessed the one thing doctor who would be missing was that 😂. I actually really liked this one, I just feel that this season hasn't really FELT like doctor who. And I don't really like all the supernatural stuff that this season has done. Like 73 yards and The Devils Chord. But, there have been stand out episodes for me, primarily Boom and Dot and Bubble. But this episode definitely reminded me of the black mirror episode "Nosedive". Despite this, I still surprisingly enjoyed this episode and I can't wait to see what the rest of the season has to offer.
The twist reminded me a little of the end of Voyage of the Damned, when the Doctor is talking to Mr Copper, and it's mentioned that Rickston isn't the person you'd choose to save, but if you could choose who to save that's make you a monster. I feel like that sort of moment was missing, and all we see is the sort of regret the Doctor feels for saving these horrible people.
I don't think he regrets saving them at all, he actually begs to save them and they say no and go fend for themselves on an alien planet, if anything it proves the point of "you cant choose who to save" better than voyage of the damned "You can think anything, just let me save you" "You will die! And I can save you! Just let me!" I don't see him regretting it at all, I see the complete opposite and just being so frustrated that they're basically killing themselves.
He doesn't regret saving them. He's torn up precisely because he CAN'T save them. He knows they're going to die out there, but their bigotry won't let them accept his help
I agree with you that the episode was too stereotypical, that it became ridiculous in my opinion. One of the things that was ridiculous to me was the fact that she couldn't walk without the arrows because at the end of the day she was still walking on her own not that there was anything that would walk for her and I feel like this is where they wanted to give a message that technology was bad but to me it was a ridiculous way, plus she hit a pole twice. I think at the beginning we all expected that Lindy and the survivors would realise at the end of the episode that the way they were using the technology was wrong and that we were going to have a happy ending, but I liked that plot twist and that at the end of the day there are bad people or that some people are foolish and don't want to listen. That kind of writing is very much appreciated. I have to mention that my favourite scene was when Lindy mentions Ricky's real surname to me it was an excellent scene (even the Daleks didn't dare to do that XD). About the ending, I also think there could have been more information about the Doctor and the survivors, but I feel it was well handled, I think at the end they implied the Doctor felt no remorse as he did try to convince them. In conclusion, for me it was a normal episode with ups and downs. And it could easily have been an episode of Black Mirror regardless of the Doctor and Ruby. I also feel the same way about the episode ‘43 Yards’, it could have been part of another series. (Did anyone notice that Lindy was suddenly able to walk, run, and go down stairs without any problem?)
I think the pole scene is awful. You can’t juggle racism and slapstick humour. I wonder if the arrows is the equivalent of being reliant on using google maps etc over learning where you need to go
I know Lindy and her bunch aren't typical Gen Xers. Despite their shallow irritation its overt these are rich kids. Yes the race attitudes are of note but we can leave that aside and look at the way powerful people live and behave. This episode will age much better than its first reception. Tories out!
Oh, I think you might have missed the point of the episode. Respectfully, this episode's about racism. Consider rewatching it thinking about it from that perspective. Notice how everyone in the episode looks and how all the characters respond to the doctor. And also consider what the doctor must be thinking at the end as his first incarnation as a black man. The whole thing about living in a bubble is a side plot or a red herring. This was a very clever episode.
@@count69 did it, though? Because a number of people who made videos about this episode completely missed it. And I didn't get it for sure until the last 5 minutes. When did you know for sure that that was what the episode was really about?
@@AlexAndersAuthor RTD said about the episode that it was 100% about race which is why he purposefully cast only white actors. He said he did that to see if the audience would notice that there were ONLY white characters in the episode. He said how long will it take the auidiecne to realise that it is ONLY white people? 5 minutes? 10 minutes? If you didn't notice at all - then why not? He has put out a 'metric' by this episode for peolpe to be judge by. If you are saying you did not notice the episode was specifically about race then you have failed RTD's test and you need to ask yourself why you did not notice it was about race. He is straight up baiting the audience now. I truly think he has lost the plot and is engaging in some wierd powertrip fantasy.
@@count69 That's very interesting! Thank you for sharing that. But, here's the thing. There have been many past episodes where the cast of Doctor Who was all white. For a long time, that was just a TV norm. And every so often, an episode of television reverts back to that. So, I registered that the cast was feeling very white and that the doctor, as a black man, was standing out. But I didn't, in any way, register that it was the point of the episode. I also felt all the microaggressions. But, again, that's often the norm and can be interpreted in a number of ways. Even at the end I questioned whether or not they were talking about race because so many other stories explain behavior like that away as other things. So, if the episode could be so subtle as to not register in my brain, a person who notices the lack of diversity and the way black characters are portrayed, I would call the episode clever.
You say that the twist isn't explored, but I think you're wrong. The whole episode is the exploration, once it's been recontextualised by the twist. It's about parasocial relationships, and how the version of influencers we see is carefully curated, not actually representative of who they really are As for whether the Doctor's "hero complex" would result in him "saving them whether they like it or not".... we already have that answer, too. He didn't. Regardless of their reasoning, he accepted their choice and let them go to their deaths You also missed the first big twist of the episode. That it WASN'T just the kids. That everyone on the homeworld was already dead, everyone of every generation falling victim to the same enemy
I don’t think the fact that homeworld suffered the same fate takes away from the fact that the particular behaviors and reliance on the Dot and Bubble were only shown as being a young persons thing. Maybe they were the same on homeworld but maybe the dots were used in a less reliant way there. It’s by no means an episode ruining issue - the other stuff is still really strong, but I can’t help but feel it would have been better if the society on FineTime specifically had been more mixed in generational representation.
I understand he accepts their choice but the idea of someone not wanting to be saved is a interesting dilemma. Its not something the Doctor has dealt with before.
Let's face it the whole script was written for 5 year olds. I agree that the whole racism issue was tackled badly. So a bunch of really horrible people are also racist why would any of us care or be surprised. I don't see what the point is other than the doctor will save them anyway but he doesn't. So let them die in their own ignorance who cares. It was their choice surely the doctor believes in free will?? Everybody knows racism is bad so really what is the point of this scene. The doctor will save you even if you are a twat? And of course it had to be a white person who was racist. Wouldn't it have been more interesting to have a whole black or Asian community in the bubble that turned out to be racist towards Millie because she was white? It would certainly make people realise that racism works the other way too. The messaging in Doctor Who these days is pretty pathetic and one way. There is no subtlety and it's immature.
I don't want to have to 'get the point' of the show.....I want quality well thought out entertainment. This was god awful trash with rubber slugs. That's it. I gave this idiot doctor a good chance but I'm done with the show.
