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Doctor Who: Enlightenment Effects Comparison 

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In 2009, Enlightenment was given the Special Edition treatment, the Special Edition contained new effects, a cropped 16:9 picture and a reduced runtime, it was included as an extra for its DVD release alongside the original televised version. Here is a comparison of the updated footage with the original footage.
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@doctor49152
@doctor49152 3 года назад
I've never seen the finished version of this. It was pretty much the biggest and last project I did besides virtual backgrounds and things for the special features. My favorite bit is the light dip in the sun at 2:37 when it goes behind the mast of the ship. Too many Easter eggs to list here. But the window view out of the shadow was based on the view from the Titanic's window in the Christmas special. Same with the ship starting to burn up in Venus' atmosphere. Please keep in mind the total budget for all the FX shots on the 3 DVDs in the box set was around $5000. There were about 1200 effect shots to replace and do for the whole set. and something like 6 months.
@SpotLight1701
@SpotLight1701 3 года назад
And brilliant it was too Rob. BRILLIANT.
@LaughingPsycho
@LaughingPsycho 3 года назад
@@SpotLight1701 Check out Rob's TARDIS console. Puts the ones in the new series to shame.
@princecharon
@princecharon 3 года назад
'Enlightenment wasn't the diamond, enlightenment was the choice.'
@TheValeyard92
@TheValeyard92 3 года назад
Enlightenment was the friends we made along the way.
@princecharon
@princecharon 3 года назад
@@TheValeyard92 In this case, that's functionally correct in a significant way, though Turlough at the start of his character arc would not have believed it.
@colinb5504
@colinb5504 3 года назад
Some of the cgi is good and others are alright. But what spoiled it is the cropping from 4:3 screen ratio to 16:9 screen ratio which they had to enlarge the picture and lose some of the surroundings of the sets. That is totally unforgivable.
@Rocket1377
@Rocket1377 3 года назад
Agreed. What's the deal with that? Adding/improving effects is one thing, but changing the shot composition and framing is going too far.
@colinb5504
@colinb5504 3 года назад
@@Rocket1377 There trying to make more cinematic but in the end it fauls.
@MrMittens1974
@MrMittens1974 2 года назад
Yes you're losing so much of the damn detail. It's ridiculous.
@frogoat
@frogoat 3 года назад
I appreciate the new edit and the new effects, but do think this is an example of the original model shots of the ships being some of the best in the series. Some of the new CGI is just too bright or too static to make it an adequate replacement. There's also that one shot where you can see where it was comped into the existing footage, I like this cut but I feel the story held up regardless.
@frogoat
@frogoat 3 года назад
Don't get me wrong, I really like the stuff that does work better to enhance the story, it's just some of it looks like it's too modern to fit. I really love the new eye effects and the ships themselves look good, just as the crystal looks amazing.
@doctor49152
@doctor49152 3 года назад
@frogoat we didn't want to go to crazy with camera moves since they wouldn't have as they would have stood out too much. Most work was static shots. Also that was what the director wanted and was story boarded.
@frogoat
@frogoat 3 года назад
@@doctor49152 thanks for responding. I hope you don't take my statements as a negative. I genuinely love the option of CGI effects for the classic series. I just critique what I love.
@doctor49152
@doctor49152 3 года назад
@@frogoat no I dont take them as a negative at all. Frankly I agree 100% with what you said. The effects were colour graded after I sent them in. They made them much darker than I expected. That made the ship sails become super bright for some reason.
@iamnoone3352
@iamnoone3352 3 года назад
I completely agree with you, frogoat. I think they did amazing work with the new CGI, they all deserve a round of applause, but I've always found the original model work on Enlightenment to be beautiful and haunting. Some of the best model work in the entire classic series.
@GeoffreyToday
@GeoffreyToday 3 года назад
While I'm all for the inclusion of special editions with retouched and/or improved fx work, I can't say that I'm a fan of changing the aspect ratio. Losing part of the original composition just to artificially create a widescreen presentation seems a poor choice.
@dangrimwade2419
@dangrimwade2419 3 года назад
I must say this has to be my favourite episode from 20. The original effects look fine but it does look amazing with the added special effects. Must have been a pain putting these all together so a big thank you for your incredible efforts. I do perfer the original version and the model shots are some of the best in the classic series. But do wish they put the original in wide-screen like they did in the updated version. Me being a classic doctor who oriented fan I perfer the classic SFX w and music though. However, I do find the updated effects decent.
@MrOmnisun
@MrOmnisun 3 года назад
I’m not a fan of converting 4:3 to 16:9. I have a 65” tv, black bars on the side doesn’t bother me.
@AnotherScifiGuy
@AnotherScifiGuy 8 месяцев назад
Hoping for a video comparing all three versions like you did recently with five doctors!
@bonjour4884
@bonjour4884 5 дней назад
Yes I looking for it but it don't seems to exist !
@ummwho8279
@ummwho8279 3 года назад
The cgi improvements are amazing. Gotta track this one down!!
@jcortese3300
@jcortese3300 2 года назад
2:09 -- That's outright offensive. The whole point of that scene was to have a quiet awed intake of breath, not a g/d gigantic deafening orchestra swell. Most of it is fine, but I beg of you, not that editing choice. It ruins the whole atmosphere of the scene.
@garym6315
@garym6315 2 года назад
I've never watched the special editions of this or Planet of Fire, simply because I don't agree with cropping shots that were directed and filmed in 4:3. But having seen this, I'm glad I didn't watch them. Oh the effects are nice but I'm really not a fan of adding effects at the loss of existing footage.
@georgeowain
@georgeowain 3 года назад
I really wish they’d do a digital update of Frontier in Space.
@DanTheMan2150AD
@DanTheMan2150AD 3 года назад
That boxset has been and gone sadly. Planet of the Daleks got the treatment.
@stevetayler9518
@stevetayler9518 3 года назад
Or Invasion of the Dinosaurs; now that would be a challenge 🦖
@VmdStefan
@VmdStefan 3 года назад
It is me or I heard at 5:28 a soundtrack from 2001: A Space Odyssey or something similar ?
@DanTheMan2150AD
@DanTheMan2150AD 3 года назад
It’s something similar.
@VmdStefan
@VmdStefan 3 года назад
@@DanTheMan2150AD A ok but cool the effects, original versus the 2009 version
@ViewpointProd
@ViewpointProd 3 года назад
5:28 looks horrible in the re-edit, you can literally just see it's a black box
@paulgoddard
@paulgoddard 3 года назад
I remember seeing that on the DVD and thinking that's not very good!
@theevildalek5425
@theevildalek5425 3 года назад
...What did they do to Malcolm Clarke’s score?! 😡
@DanTheMan2150AD
@DanTheMan2150AD 3 года назад
Created a 5.1 mix (although RU-vid doesn’t support that format) and added some lovely new orchestral music to benefit the visuals.
@DrWhoFanJ
@DrWhoFanJ Год назад
@@DanTheMan2150AD Then how do you explain 2:09?
@DanTheMan2150AD
@DanTheMan2150AD Год назад
Idk what you mean.
@DrWhoFanJ
@DrWhoFanJ Год назад
@@DanTheMan2150AD I mean that that section of music is not remotely a part of the original score. At least the other scene extensions simply repurpose elements from elsewhere in the story for their additional score!
@swedish_llama1356
@swedish_llama1356 Год назад
@@DrWhoFanJYour mum is not remotely part of the original score
@XmorganlamiaX
@XmorganlamiaX 3 года назад
5:28 - Effects goof? 😆
@elliot5569
@elliot5569 20 дней назад
Is the 2023 effects different from 2009?
@DanTheMan2150AD
@DanTheMan2150AD 20 дней назад
Yes
@elliot5569
@elliot5569 19 дней назад
​@@DanTheMan2150ADthanks
@bonjour4884
@bonjour4884 5 дней назад
​@@DanTheMan2150ADwill you do a comparison between the three version like you have greatly done with the five doctor ?
@dickiegreenleaf750
@dickiegreenleaf750 3 года назад
Red jellybean
@tsarbomba1
@tsarbomba1 3 года назад
Did this air in the States? I don't remember this one at all.
@FirstNameLastName-kt3zn
@FirstNameLastName-kt3zn 2 года назад
Yes, I remember watching it on the PBS station in New York
@TheCoolEevee
@TheCoolEevee 6 месяцев назад
At some point will we get a comparison of the 2023 version as well?
@DanTheMan2150AD
@DanTheMan2150AD 6 месяцев назад
Yes
@Icewarriorss
@Icewarriorss 3 месяца назад
Where is it? The effects comparison 2023 enlightenment.
@Xegethra
@Xegethra 3 года назад
I quite like a lot of those old space scenes. Feels more spacey to me, I guess because growing up that's how I commonly saw it done in film and T.V.
@gillgurnt5476
@gillgurnt5476 3 года назад
these edits are okay... But im glad they replaced turlough in the net as that was just..... Bad..
@literacylabyrinth4018
@literacylabyrinth4018 9 месяцев назад
Dang the director cropped the picture. Thats a travesty. But i love the additional clipper scenes. Did 2023 version have this?
@DrWhoFanJ
@DrWhoFanJ 8 месяцев назад
No, the 2023 version has (from the trailer; I haven’t started watching it yet, but it is next) a proper 4:3 framing and an entirely-new set of effects, but follows the timings and audio of the original episodes rather than adding anything to them.
@marionlawless
@marionlawless 3 года назад
Some of it seems like just slapping particle effects over a shot and hoping for the best.
@harrynewiss4630
@harrynewiss4630 9 месяцев назад
Very nice but I wonder about some of the choices of stories for these new fx. This one had pretty reasonable fx for the time, especially the model work. There are far worse candidates...
@DialHForHorror
@DialHForHorror 3 года назад
This story was a scripting and filming casualty from a season that dumped Doctor Who's flavor for trendy and kitschy. It was a sad season indeed, and this story had so much promise. Though the special effects edition isn't special, it did enhance the visual storytelling of the original in most places--especially with the ships. The greatest special effect needed in this era was switching out JNT for a better, new producer.
@derroboter2895
@derroboter2895 3 года назад
Said no one ever.
@dickiegreenleaf750
@dickiegreenleaf750 3 года назад
I didn’t like this story but I like the effects.
@xxpeppermintzxx
@xxpeppermintzxx 3 года назад
Horrible, horrible, horrible. With all of the cropping and sacrificing parts of every minute of this story it now feels like missing episodes. Imagery lost and never to be seen again. Why oh why did they have to convert to the different ratio to get the otherwise good new effects. One of my favorite Doctor Who stories slashed to bits. The directors careful composing of each scene is destroyed. Its like how the Mona Lisa no longer has the pillars on the sides of the painting, cut out by a hack and lost forever.
@DanTheMan2150AD
@DanTheMan2150AD 3 года назад
You know it was cut together by the original director right?
@xxpeppermintzxx
@xxpeppermintzxx 3 года назад
@@DanTheMan2150AD No I didn't know. Wow! all power to the director for their own decision making. I guess I now speak an opinion based upon what I know as an art teacher regarding composition. Many of these frames are now close ups of heads that feel cut off and detached from the body. It just looks wrong. But what's done is done. Thank you for your comment.
@zeframmann1641
@zeframmann1641 Год назад
@@DanTheMan2150AD The cropping is still bad.
@brentcrosby7109
@brentcrosby7109 4 месяца назад
I prefer the original. I think the point of classic Who is you appreciated all it did on a small budget. If that means more story and less visuals, well that's what made it classic IMO. Nearly every new visual shown I prefer the old on Enlightenment. I felt if you had a smaller budget if forced you to be more creative. The essence of old Who.
@theevildalek5425
@theevildalek5425 3 года назад
...I do not like these changes...
@zeframmann1641
@zeframmann1641 Год назад
This is so ugly, trimming the top and bottom off an image originally shot on video makes it look terrible and grainy as heck, and destroys the original shot composition. Absolute shame that the effects were enhanced only to make it unwatchable. If viewers want to do this to their 4:3 scale media any modern widescreen telly has a zoom and crop feature without having to destroy it for everyone else.
@DanTheMan2150AD
@DanTheMan2150AD Год назад
You know it was cut together by the original director right?
@DrWhoFanJ
@DrWhoFanJ Год назад
To say nothing of forcing it into an edited omnibus; those three things should all be separate options, not an all-or-nothing deal!
@DanTheMan2150AD
@DanTheMan2150AD Год назад
cope
@zarrg5611
@zarrg5611 9 месяцев назад
@@DanTheMan2150AD The director made an idiotic choice, the fact changes nothing.
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