Doctor Who: Revelation of the Daleks Effects Comparison 

Aye. The new model work for that shot is incredible.

It's certainly creepier and impressive. However, I still want to know why it blows up afterwards.

I’m sure the novelisation would provide a proper answer.

Agreed, in the original shot it was hard to make out what was supposed to be going on for the most part.

@@DanTheMan2150AD Sadly the novelisation cuts the Dalek entirely and replaces it with 3 non-levitating ones.

That plus how’d he get half his body back after he was just a head in Remembrance

@@pcb1175 The head was fake. Davros pretty much did a Wizard of Oz thing.

@@buhe1 I’m referring his appearance in Remembrance, not Revelation where he did that.

@@pcb1175 Oh' that was simply a container he was inside. He still had his body. He even move forward a bit with his head and shoulders when he revealed himself.

​@@buhe1 When hevrevealed himself? The dirty old git.

The effects certainly for these 70's and mid 80's stories are certainly needed. 👍

Given the technology at the time I imagine it was the case of budget. Nowadays it would be quite a simple fix, I’m pretty sure there’s a fan fix on RU-vid somewhere as well

@@DanTheMan2150AD Yes probably.

@@AndrewChapman found it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nD9AZnlJn7w.html

@@DanTheMan2150AD Thanks for that. Just seen it, looks so much better.

And they got rid of the pathetic malfunction.

What the hell was wrong with tat dalek?

It was actually always there but in the new effects version they made it louder since the noise of the Dalek in the original means you can beardy here tar the scream

Possibly the glass dalek scene😐

But only retroactively.

Not even retroactively, it flew in the original version it was just incredibly hard to make out due to the angle and lighting.

@@DanTheMan2150AD I thought the first time a Dalek flew was meant to be in remembrance? Though here Davros is also shown flying so not too far fetched.

There were meant to be others. When Orcini blows up a Dalek in the grounds it was originally meant to be two flying Daleks. A special catapult was rigged out of a spring-mounted disk which would project a special light-weight Dalek prop which was fitted out with explosives so that Orsini could blow it up mid-flight. The unexpected snow during filming apparently made this difficult to pull off so they abandoned the idea at the last minute. I always assumed that Daleks were meant to hover from the outset on the basis that they were able to get up the steps on Westminster Bridge and on the Marie Celeste. I just assumed that the technological and budgetary restrictions prevented us from seeing this. But Douglas Adams, who in my opinion was no good for the show, wrote that reference to Daleks not being able to climb stairs in Destiny and ruined the illusion that they were all- powerful conquerors, just in order to get a cheap gag out of them.

@@GrilloTheFlightless The stair gag was good tho :)

Surprised his last words weren’t *Oh my*

These are not Kaled Mutant Daleks, as you can see from Stengos' head they are human conversions so a human ish voice is accurate. Perhaps Briggs could voice the gray Daleks though.

@@eddherring3088 Years ago I read an interview in which Graham Harper said he thought the voices would be further treated in post production which was why they sounded the way they do. Since then the theory follows that these are human derived Daleks hence the voice not being fully modulated. I think Harper must have heard this relayed back to him and over the years has now come to believe this himself, but what bears out his original comments is as you note, the Skaro Daleks sound exactly the same as the Necros ones.

Probably cause they used even less primitive technology than that.

I swear I actually thought he was going to sip the drink before keeling over!

There’s an Easter egg that shows why: they got the surviving actors in to re-record some lines for the 5.1 sound mix.

The Blu-ray version is also missing certain shots at the start of episode 2.

Yeah that was always there

They also considered DLT and John Peel who have also acquired ‘reputations’. The idea to use a real DJ was eventually abandoned for fear that the audience would identify too much with the personality and not the character.

Yes. The 5.1 mix on the DVD is a ground up reworking of the original sound mix with newly recorded dialogue and effects.

@@DanTheMan2150AD I never even knew there was a 5.1 mix

Yes although it’s missing a few of the new effects due to an oversight in the disc pressings.

@@DanTheMan2150AD I see. That’s a real shame. Might have to get the DVD version if I ever see it out in the open like at convention then.

No

@@DanTheMan2150AD ohh. Kinda looks like it.

@@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN they first technically flew onscreen in the first episode of The Chase. This story just made it more overt.

It would be a shame to lose Roy Skelton’s voice. I wonder if there’s a way they can take the original sound recording and beef up the effect digitally.

@@GrilloTheFlightless that's more what I was meaning yeah. If Roy skeltons voice could be treated electronically but made to resemble classic Daleks that would be great

They did but it was kept as is due to Mark wishing to preserve part of original sound mix when creating the 5.1

But the dalek voice update from the 2005 version is a bit better than the original 1985

Not always

@@DanTheMan2150AD Yes they are, because it was a product of its time and the people who worked on them. Changing the effects is not only out of place, but changes the entire intention of the original creators.

Lol no.