Dodge fuller 6 speed conversion 

Sounds like a sweet combo

Post a video of it!

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Thank you for your kind words. The way you did yours sound like the way its usually done in med and heavy duty trucks.

Do u happen to have pics. I'm doin a fs5205a in my 94 dually an wanted to see how it would fit. G56 an an eaton 5 speed are qbout the same height so I'm hoping I don't have to cut the cab

Thank you

Did you ever do the swap? I’m contemplating doing the same thing on my 93 d350

@@jarrett754 I did the Eaton fuller 6 speed OD swap it was very straight forward. I did a detached 205 transfer case, 2in body lift and built a crossmember. Had to build a bracket for the slave cylinder to reverse the direction of force. Other than that it was plug and play.. also mine was a D350 ex cab dully, I did the 4x4 swap. I used a Dana 70 rear end and Dana 60 kingpin front end.

@@michaelcowan7456 do you think it was be just as easy doing it without the 4wd swap? I really like the fact that my truck has stayed mostly original but the getrag is getting harder to find parts for as time goes on. And the previous owner had their way with it (find em grind em lug the crap out of it style of driving) so I would really like to take on a more robust solution. The problem is that truck is currently my daily driver so I’m hoping for a way I can do the entire swap in the span of 3-4 days

@@jarrett754 is there a way to PM you?

Thank you It goes frame rail to frame rail across the top especially a C channel arched across made out of 3/16 plate.

@@jagersgarage490 gotcha. I had a Suzuki samurai rigged up for off-roading on Toyota axles and 36's. They have divorced tcase. I ended up getting a laser cut ring that went around the entire case and grabbed every mounting bolt that held the front and back case halves together. If you didn't do that they always seemed to crack. Granted a lighter case, but I always just assumed there was a lot of torque on them especially in low range.

Its mounted basically the same as the truck it come out of. If I were off roading I'd definitely add more support but it's just a tow rig. I don't ever use low range first gear is almost 9:1

Glad I could help. I am on Facebook as jagers garage (personal) or team fishballs (projects page).

Nice

I dont have the exact figure handy but its around $3500 just in labor.... fabrication takes time.

I should have time this weekend to do that

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It can be done on a common rail should be the same flywheel housing that I used as I'm pretty sure the blocks are the same. If the block are different you will just have to find an SAE2 flywheel housing for the common rail.

Did you do the swap? I have a 2004 ram 3500 5.9 with the g56.

@@godspeedparadeteam I have not yet. I’m waiting since I have other things that require the funds at the moment and my transmission is still working fine. But I will definitely be doing it in the future. I will also do videos on it when I do the build. Since there are not a lot out there and none on a newer coming rail truck. I will also be doing mine In 4wheel drive version

They don't make a common rail sae 2 clutch housing. One bolt hole is different an the common rail have a cam seal inset into the factory adapter plate. So a sae 2 housing will work just one hole will not line up. Then have a cam seal groove machined in it an bolt it up an go on about your day

The big problem is finding the housing it's hard to get info. I'm am very confident the common rail housing exists as they used common rails in freightliner fl60s .

I cant remember or find the recipe for what I used it was several years ago. But this is the website I used. I got the ones that were a little longer because they were quite a bit cheaper this is the 1710 page they also have a 1550 page.

Thank you. If you check my channel I have a walk around of the 10 speed.

Jagers Garage I have an 08 with the auto 6 speed. She is on her way out. Can I do this conversion in mine? I realize the bell housing will bolt up. What I'm wondering is about the transfer case. Will I need to do the divorced transfer like this? I already have a tuner. So trouble codes can be cleared.

Yes you will need a divorced transfer case unless you want to pay or have access to a machine shop to make a married mount and coupler. There is a guy on the cummins forum that did it and shared lots of info.

@@jagersgarage490 I actually have a machine shop in my boat shop lol. Prob be way easier to just do a divorced setup. Still not sure if I will even do it.

I would say if you have the means do it married then you don't have to build another crossmember or worry about a mid shaft or setting the angles. I would have but machine shops here are very expensive.

For the clutch release I cut the lever on the trans and drilled a pocket

@@jagersgarage490 do you remember how much you cut off the end so it has enough throw but not to much

How much was cut off depends on the arm you have. From the center of the shaft to the end when cut was about 3in with the 1/4 in deep hole for the rod at about 2.5in

@@jagersgarage490 thanks man I just finished my trans mount I'm abt to start on the clutch release thanks again for the info

They are in the description.

Yeah it's a pain not much room to work.

I use my calibrated eye lol and it worked the first time.

I have bought 2 of them on e-bay you can find them other places but e-bay seems to be the cheapest. A new one from a semi dealer was about $1200.

For the bellhousing the best bet is to get the eaton overhaul or parts breakdown manual for the 6610 or 610 it will have bellhousing part #s in it. You can get/read the manuals on line.

The reason there is music when I talk is because the editing software I was using at the time would not allow me to split or mute the music.

Rear sump engines are usually angled back to help the oil drain to the sump in the oil pan. I took a measurement stock before I removed anything then set it at the same angle when I installed the new transmission mount.

I'm still waiting on the owner to finish the interior.

Yes it would work a 2wd would actually be alot easier. As for gears that really depends. If you get an overdrive trans it will be basically the same as stock. If the trans is not overdrive or you have larger tires. Go online and you can find a calculator where you put in tire size trans, axle gears and speed. Then it will give you an rpm and you can decide from there. The most fuel efficient rpm for a stock 12 valve is about 1700

I looked into that at the time I could not find a kit to divorce an NP241. I did find one for I believe it was the NP271 but I don't have a 271 and had no luck sourcing one locally.

I'm pretty sure it was 3.54

It was in a buddy's truck he still prefers the 6406. They shift about the same but the 6406 hasn't needed replaced if he had the 5600 he would have had to replace it again by now

For mine I went to a heavy truck shop and bought one that fit my needs. For this build the owner supplied the clutch with no box so I have no info about it. I ordered the front and rear drive shafts from Tom woods in California 4xshaft.com for the shaft between the transmission and transfer case and all the flanges/yokes were from www.northerndrivetrain.com

Cost really depends on how much of a hurry you are in and how much you search for deals. Mine was close to $5000, I paid $300 for the trans but almost $3000 for drive shafts. For strength the nv4500 is rated at about 400ft lbs at I think 12,000GVW the RTO6610 is rated at 660ft lbs at 55,000 GVW. I don't have any experience using one with that kind of power but based on there weight rating and seeing the size of the components I think it will hold up.

@@jagersgarage490 thanks! Told me what i needed to know

You can get a good bit more than 500 out of a stock vp44. Most pumps in good shape will do 600, 650 is doable on a strong pump and there are a handful of people who have just barely broke 700. There's videos of guys with modded vp44s hitting near 1000 on just fuel and 1100+ with nitrous. 500 isn't even difficult to get out of a vp44 nowadays

@@wyattlewis8671 corrected? Possibly on a perfect dyno. Most people 550 is tops. Personally haven't seen anything more out of a stock pump. Neither have I seen dyno sheets to back that. Not saying a few aren't, but most make no more that 550 wheel horsepower uncorrected

I used the OEM slave cylinder just built a bracket and modified the arm

@@jagersgarage490 awsome, thank you for the reply!

​@jagersgarage490 any idea on the part number for the pilot bearing that goes in the flywheel? Is it the same as the oem dodge one?

I used this one Timken Single Row Ball Bearing - 305DD

@@jagersgarage490 again you're awsome, appreciate it

I'm in Alaska you can contact me on Facebook at jagers garage or team fishballs.

The ideal 10 speed are know as the baby 10s they weigh about 400lbs... the RTO610 and RTO6610. For transfer cases many older pickups came factory with a divorced transfer case the one in the video is an NP205 from a ford.

@@jagersgarage490 the wheels are now in motion. Thank you. I'll find something used and slowly get the parts together. Truth be told, I'm actually bouncing around the idea of a 5 inch lift and chopping the cab and frame and stretching it into a full 4 door. Need to research how much that will affect my towing capacity. No point having a heavy hauler that can't haul! IC

@@iancameron5724 Your welcome. I know what you mean about the heavy hauler. My current plan is to find an older F600 or Kodiak put a 4 door cab cummins and 18 speed.

@@jagersgarage490 f@#k yeah!!!!!!!!

With my 10speed I have a Dana 21 the 6 speed I did is an NP205 and a friend of mine who is doing a 15 speed is using an NP205. If cost was not a consideration I would use an Atlas II

Not yet once the ower gets the interior in I plan to.

From northern drivetrain Spicer 3-4-10951-11 Northern Drivetrain 001051 Northern Drivetrain 00176 From drive-lines.com 4-2-669 1550 flange standard * 2.00 F-C 4-82-191 1550 2.5-16 X 4.562 270.04 27 6-3-2631KX SLIP YOKE ASSY You will also need a 1710 and 1550 U-Joint. Make sure the yoke on your transmission is a 1710 if it is not the 6-3-2631KX will not work for you. As for the front and rear driveshafts I don't have a part # I just called Tom woods driveshaft. Told them my u-joint sizes flange dimensions and length.

@@jagersgarage490 thank you so much

I suppose it's possible but I'm I'm alaska so unless the truck is in alaska I don't see it happening

@@jagersgarage490 Haha I don't think I want to drive the AT545 that far. But thank you for the video, I'm looking for a donor right now.

Oshane Henry I ment to put it in the video but forgot. IATCO 3921263-IAT B Series Cummins Flywheel (5.9-L) Replaces 3921263 & 4933458 www.amazon.com/dp/B014V0H48A/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_GW4PEb7ZHVMM9 DB Electrical SNK0021 Starter Unit Type: Starter Voltage: 12 Rotation: CW Teeth: 10 Starter Type: OSGR Replaces OEM Numbers: AC DELCO: 323-504 ARROWHEAD: SNK0021 ARROWHEAD (OEM): IMI25002-017, NK0-23000-2238 CARGO: 112253 CUMMINS: 3675172RX, 3924410, 3935071 DELCO: 10461477, 10465151, 10465314, 10479615, 10479618, 10479625, 10479638, 10479641 FORD: F3HT-11001-DB, F3HT-11001-DC, F3HZ-11002-B, F4HT-11001-BA J & N: 410-12121, 410-12757 J & N (OLD): 410-12121R LESTER: 6585 MOTORCRAFT: SA-803 NIKKO: 0-23000-2238, 0-23000-2388, 0-61000-0190, 0-61000-0220 NSA: STR-7056 REMY LIGHT DUTY: 63145 UNIPOINT: STR-7056 WAI: 6585N www.amazon.com/dp/B0081SBZ8E/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_zZ4PEbH0530T4 Timken 305DD Pilot Bearing www.amazon.com/dp/B000BZ6XD2/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_Q54PEbE637WSX Flywheel housing 3921296

Oshane Henry for the clutch you will need to get the transmission input shaft size and splin thengo to a heavy truck shop and talk to them to figure out what you can get for the power you are making and if you want it to be a push or a pull type.

@@jagersgarage490 THanks for all your help you really did a good job on that truck

Oshane Henry Thank you I'm glad to help.

Depends I am assuming the 8.3 is and SAE #2 if it is then if you have an SAE #2 flywheel housing and flywheel for the 5.9 then yes. The 8.3 flywheel housing will not fit the 5.9.

@@jagersgarage490 That was my main question. I'll look for a #"matching" flywheel housing for my 5.9L. Thanks!

60mph is the max I'm comfortable cruising at because of the rpm. but the owner does 65mph it has 3.54 gears and 37in tires and he plans on 40s or 42s.

Just parts including the transmission it was about $8,000

Its possible but you have to convert the stock transfer case to be divorced or convert the transmission to accept a married transfer case

Factory dodge just made a mount for slave

@@jagersgarage490 good to know, thanks

@@jagersgarage490 which clutch to use with this setup, any '10 spline 14 inch' kit?

The big thing once you get into commercial clutches is shaft diameter and if it's a push or pull clutch there are many different ones for each set up available just need to figure out what you need at research to find the clutch you want

Unfortunately I did the 10 speed before I had a RU-vid channel and didn't take any video. Installing the 10 speed was the same as the 6 speed other than the air system and i did a 2in body lift instead of cutting out the transmission tunnel. If your 10 speed has an SAE 2 bellhousing you can use all the parts listed in the description.

What is the part number for the fly wheel housing I’m only finding sae 3 on Cummings dinner engines

Flywheel housing 3921296

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Didn't think at the time it would be interesting to people as it's just like driving a normal 6 speed.

I am in Alaska

Cost really depends on how much of a hurry you are in and how much you search for deals. Mine was close to $5000, I paid $300 for the trans but almost $3000 for drive shafts. For this one the owner paid $1700 for the trans but I got the drive shafts from tom woods instead of locally so the were $1000 instead of $3000

@@jagersgarage490 thanks for the response

Not at this point the owner wanted to do some rust repairs before finishing the interior and getting bigger tires he is currently in the lower 48 so I don't know if a follow up will happen.

Glad you like the video... unfortunately it's hard to find good music without a copyright.

@@jagersgarage490 Leave the music out of the videos. Copyright problem solved and viewers will not complain about the music. To me the music is lousy and distracting from the video content. Great video otherwise.