yes it boils down to physics.. they naturally want to run .. they got great gas mileage too,, I had a straight 6 in an old chevy truck with the single barrel carb.. it was a gas miser and had plenty of power.
Agreed then they added a turbo and on top of that the turbo is part of the head now let's talk repair costs and replacement costs or what happens when you want more boost you have to buy a new head lol it'll save gas but you will always be able to get more power out of the v8
Time to buy a V8 boys. EPA mpg standards are bullshit. It should be up to the consumer if we want to drive a hybrid or EV or V8 guzzler it should be our freedom of choice
@@earache_srt8790 yeah sucks man, when we immigrated here around 30 years ago it wasn't like this, it was way more freedom to choose. America, sadly, isn't as free/strong as it used to be😭😭 and I love it here.
I just finished the web update course for my training on this last week and have been to my local Stellantis training center recently . We will see this engine in the Wagoneer platform very soon after the “official unveiling “ as he told us. All the service info is available to techs and we have been getting the special tools for the engine. Our instructor told us the Hemi’s will be done in ‘23 but was unsure if it would be model year or sometime in ‘23 as it seems some info on it is very up in the air. Also if it had a Hemi it will get this as the replacement at some point.
Its not a typical inline six and it will have all kinds of problems being it will be a brand new design. I see things that I do not like. It's cylinder head and intake will be one piece from what I have seen. I can see issues arising from that by itself. If they have multiport and direct injection together I will feel better. Without the multiport to help clean valves it will have problems like other direct injection engines have. I am sticking with Toyota or Honda going forward I am leary of domestic designed forced induction engines and the costs that come with them. It may end up being the most reliable engine ever made, but I highly dought it.
INLINES have always been great, even in motorcycles.. they make alot more mechanical sense than a horizontally opposed engine, they are easier to balance, bullet proof reliable, lighter, ect... I think these are going to be great engines!!! I think they are coating the cylinder walls and making special pistons so they can run it at a leaner ratio, to get more power.. Ive wondered abt this for a long time,, they must have finally found the recipe..
I love them too, they're nothing like a V figuration design engine, such smooth power and very high torque and they are fast and powerful and very reliable.
@@Ayixlia yes vee opposed engines are always trying to shake apart. they must be internally balanced and have big heavy crankshafts and flywheels to counter the shitshow.. this is why V engines on motor bikes will try throw you off at 90 mph.,, inline 6 and 8s are the future,, the V4 AND 6 designs were mostly for front wheel drive cars to give more space. designers are much more concerned how a car looks than how it works, I have a 2000 bmw with straight 6 and rear wheel drive and it is awesome.. we need to go back to inline engines and rear wheel drive.
have u ever seen a crankshaft in a harley davidson v twin? they are massive! also alot of manufacturers had to put a balance shaft in thier v6 motors, aside from using the crankshaft and flywheel to attempt in minimizing the shaking,, if u ever swap a v6 engine, grab the flywheel too because it is used to balance the engine.,
So glad I ordered my new Scat when I did. I currently have a 2019 SP Shaker and was offered an insane trade-in amount so it looks like the 2022 SP will be my final muscle car. A naturally aspirated V8 engine all the way for me. I received my VIN today and I’m so excited to get my new girl!
Congrats!! I just ordered challenger Rt in indigo blue haven’t got a vin or anything for it yet guy at the dealership said it could take three weeks minimum. I’m kinda thinking I messed up and shoulda waited for this new engine.
@@Pinkgt22 Congrats! I’m a Gen X’r who grew up when American Muscle was ending at that time. I appreciate all cars, but I’ll have to stick with my V8. You will absolutely love your Challenger and Indigo is an awesome color. All my previous Chally’s have been Pitch Black. The first two had the RT stripe and my Shaker has the Shaker package stripes. The new one will be all black, no stripes. I’ve grown out of that and want a sleeker look. I also added the Dynamics Package to get bigger wheels which should be standard anyway.
@@Pinkgt22 I emailed my salesman yesterday with a question that didn’t have anything to do with status, but I guess he decided to also have a status update for me when he responded to my question. He said I could text or email him anytime for an update. Now that I have my VIN, I can go online with Dodge Chat and request updates as well.
Mr. Racer X, As a 79 year old R/T owner; I say Dodge can keep their Hurricane or WTF they call it. My 5.7 Hemi averages 16/17 mpg in town and has gotten as high as 32/34 mpg on highway. IMO NO twin turbo inline 6 is going to beat that. The EPA is nothing but warm manure. If everyone buys this; I am glad I am my age. Also my car is all I need for power. Took another GEEZER for a ride and he thanked me for relieving his constipation. Don't have the reflexes you youngsters have. Thank you for the video. Also F J B!
I agree. Recently sold my 2014 srt challenger and bought a infiniti q50 AWD with a twin turbo 6. Beautiful car better on fuel peppy enough when you put your foot into it, easily modifiable to get some big numbers but I feel like it has no soul. I miss that hemi V8 rumble. Now I'm currently shopping for an R/T classic lol.
Had a q50 red sport that i got as a loaner for my qx60. Had it for a week. It was fast and impressive on acceleration but definitely soulless. When my car was out of maintenance I had no problems turning it in to drive my qx60. Currently have a 2022 charger scatpack being built. Now those are a blast to drive.
I really want to be positive, here's the real issue, as manufacturers bring out ice engines with V6 turbo this and inline 6 turbo that, it's only a matter of time the EPA will say no flashing or tuning like California, and if caught big fines will follow, N-gauge etc. Best deal is to hold on to our V8 and if you can buy a few extra V8 cores, and parts and live in a state where mods are ok. Electric cars will be faster in time, but 100k electric cars, and the disposal of batteries will cause more problems health wise.
the manufacturers pretty much already do that; flash the ECM on a Ford turbo six and the warranty on the power train is voided, Ford is notified via the wireless link up.
Wouldn't make much sense having the new I6 replacing the base V6, while keeping the V8's in the SRT models; then the base cars would have more power and be faster than the SRT's- 6.4 cars anyway...
Most likely a tuned version of the T-2.0L Hurricane 4 will replace the (3.2* and 3.6L) Pentastars, then the Hurricane 6's will replace the 5.7L and 6.4L (see Jeep Wagoneer L and Grand Wagoneer L). Then a hybrid Hurricane 6 would replace the HellCat. Above that, the Performance BEV's. * this size is still being sold, but only for a FWD-based app, the Jeep Cherokee
based on how i feel about the m2 and the supra i can say that i think the inline 6 could be good. i prefer the hellcat v8 and scatpack v8 but i think the inline 6 could be good. i also think the inline 6 could sound better than most v6 cars
Porsche has been building kick ass in line 6 engines for decades. We Americans are very stubborn with our cars. Take my Ford Fusion and make it a 2.0 turbo diesel, and it's a 40 mph car. However Americans are deathly afraid of diesel fuel.
@@fishin4bogey Porsche builds Flat 6 engine they have never built a Inline 6 for any of their cars ! Now maybe once for their tractors but not for passenger car use.
Hey Racer X, I know this might be mixing apples and oranges but when you mention engine sound one engine sound I love is the 5 cylinders from Volvo, Audi, VW, etc.
Regarding sound with a 6 cylinder engine, I have to give Ford kudos for the current gen Raptor exhaust. They made a V6 sound about as good as a V6 can.
So, the final output numbers for the two versions of this engine are as follows: 420 hp/ 468 lbs/ft tq for the standard output version, and 510 hp & 500 lbs/ft tq for the high output version.
Your the best keep the information coming it's going to be tough with EV and 6 cylinders taking over because nothing is better than a thumping V-8 first thing in the morning. God bless and as always be safe 👍
I have been an huge I6 fan for a long time. I think it will be a great transition to smaller displacement and fuel efficient engines that can still pull like a V8. I just hope mopar overbuilt the block, because you know builders and tuners are going to have 2JZ dreams.
This is totally untrue . Mopar engines are the weakest of the big 3 . You have stock sealed 5.0 coyote engines making 1000 whp or more yet 5.7-6.4 hemis blow up at 700 whp in perfect conditions . The reality is , the pistons and rods are a major weak link . Same goes for gm. Ls/lt engines have made huge power on stock bottom end stuff - no hemi has done that reliably . I just sold my 2020 ram for a 2021 explorer st , and with minor bolt ons and a tune , my little 3.0 v6 is equal to a stock trackhawk
After three Hemi Rams I decided to give the F150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost V6 a try and let me tell you it blows the 5.7 Hemi away. That being said once you get past the sound all that low end torque from those twin turbos is awesome. I'm glad Stellantis is giving us one last engine before they along with Ford and GM go bankrupt pushing all this EV crap. Hopefully we can have a sweeping change of government come November and stall the ICE death knell for a few more years.
Well the official numbers for the HO are 510 hp from a mere 3.0l and 475 lb ft of torque the base 3.0l hasn't been announced yet but the HO achieves 90% of its torque at just 2300 rpm max torque for the 6.4l is at 4300 rpm let that sink in. It is gonna be a beast of a powerplant.
thats the way a I-6 works, its a natural stump pulling torque monster. Hence why Dodge still has the contract with Cummins for their 6BT platform while Ford and GM run V8s. As for the 6 banger jokes, there's alot of classic Mopar fans who could argue it's a reborn slant 6, which you couldnt kill back then. It's the downsized turbo market, makes the EPA happy and they get to sell it with those big power numbers out of small displacements. Look at the GT, GT500 and GT350R a 5.0 and a 5.2 (302/318) My mom's 73 Mustang had a 351 Cleveland. No one's talking about the big 428/429s because the tech in the Coyotes dwarf the old iron sledgehammers from the 60s/70s. dodge brought the Hemi name back and the "hemi style combustion designs" news flash the 4.7 SOHC was nicknamed the "semi-hemi" that was really a Powertech/Magnum
@@carguy0389 No I don’t but I would. I said in the comment I have a 392. Lmao your the guy that Im referring to in my comment...😂 Im an old school v8 guy.
Definitely a real shame, I'll never stop hitting the track with my Scat Pack, no matter how many V6 turbos test me. I'll just have to do some weight cutting and tuning myself on the damn thing.
I agree man, why would anyone buy a V6 and pretend it's a "muscle car" is beyond me. Keep doing your thing and it's more than just numbers, the look/feel/sound is the whole package with the V8s.
Nice to be optimistic and hopefully it will work but as you mentioned the Raptor V6 failed epically. For sound and feel from a driving perspective can't beat the V8. We just have to hold on to our V8's that we have. Always love the content. 🤘
@Bill Kaline "the Raptor V6 failed epically" - They literally cannot make enough v6 Raptors. Everyone is basically sold with a markup. And they hold resale value better than almost any other vehicle. How is that an epic fail?
You should look into the Australian Ford 4 cylinder Barra engine, makes up to 2000+ horsepower and you can buy them around $2000`starting price. Be great in your twin turbo Mustang, lose weight and easily pick up another 500 horsepower, completely streetable!
Think of this, you put in the hybrid motor that is now behind the 4 x E behind these straight sixes. You now have hellcat power with four-cylinder economy.
If they run DI they better put some sort of injector in the intake. Every DI engine I do pistons on has giant clumps of carbon on the intake valves. This carbon is the main culprit behind the rings sticking. Them going to a inline six I feel is a smart move. A inline six with the right exhaust can sound rumbly . A inline six with aggressive cam profiles sounds wicked.
I have an M3 - best inline 6 block in the 2000's but I so envy the V8 sounds. Yeah the twin turbo spool and blowoff valves are agressive, but it doesn't compare. In regards to performance, I'm curious how Dodge will do. They did pretty darn well in the late 90s with the SRT-4 and their 4 cylinder project.
Direct injected turbo? Is there at least some form of supplementary port injection (similar to what Toyota did) that will clean the backs of the valves or will carbon build-up, especially if this engine has an EGR system (which it likely does) be an issue? I think ford with their undersized direct injected turbo'd engines had issues along these lines.
No one has even attempted a small-displacement V8 for modern times. I'm not talking like the Coyote or even the 4.6, or the 4.8 from GM. They could've done a 3.6-4.0L V8 with twins and made the same horsepower. The V8 is simply cooler and has always signified the "premium" engine option. You can go back and listen to oddly small displacement V8s like the 3.4 in the Taurus SHO or the 221s from Ford WAY back when. They still carry that unique V8 sound. And the only people they'll be "dinosaurs" to are the workers at the EPA. The manual is being ordered less and less, but people still love their V8s. No one is asking for the V8 to go away, and they could find a compromise with a small-displacement version.
Although the Europeans have been successful in making 4.0L - 4.4L V8's that do perform, the last time American manufacturers tried that there were NOT SUCCESSFUL. Try GM's 260ci / 4.3L V8 and Ford's 255ci / 4.2L V8 from the '80s (or the Cadillac 250ci / 4.1L V8 from the '70s) If you search, you'd agree... The 4.4L V8 on Volvos when Ford owned them was actually a Yamaha-made and tuned engine that the Japanese wouldn't want to sell to Ford in numbers.
@@syxepop Precisely none of the examples you mentioned were premium performance motors. Ford made that piece of garbage de-bored 302 as a V8 that could get good fuel economy. It was only rated at 118 horsepower, and old dyno tests showed that it was somehow overrated. Furthermore, one example is from 50 years ago, another is from 40, and the third one is from 30 years ago. They're not at all indicative of what could be done today. If that were true, then Ford couldn't have made the Ecoboost successful because the 2.3 turbos from the very early fox body Mustangs were unreliable junk.
There are definitley good sounding twin turbo v6 & I6 out there. CT4 blackwing, nissan gtr, I mean even 4 cyclinders like the Elantra N sounds great. They can do it if they make the effort and if not hopefully aftermarket companies will take care of it for us.
Sounds interesting.. however ordered 2022 Challenger ScatPack- Shaker - Wide Body December 2021.. Delivered April 5, 2022…LOVE LOVE LOVE..so glad I ordered this beautiful beast that roars before they fade away to in-line 6 and EVs…Love your Channel RacerX..
Inline 6 engines are great, and I am excited about this Hurricane series, but....you mentioned that Porsche used inline 6 engines. Porsche(as well as their sister company Audi, and parent company Volkswagen) does not use any inline 6 cylinder engines. The 911 and the 718 are powered by horizontally opposed "boxer" engines, not inlines. The Macan is powered by a V6, as are all the 6 cylinder Audis. Inline 6 engines are BMW's gig, and Benz is also going back to them. So smooth, and such linear power delivery. It's definitely not a V8, but as you said, we have to adapt. Love the content, thanks RacerX!
Back in the day, I had a Willys Wagon with the 226 CID "Hurricane" inline 6 engine. Flat out it would do about 60 mph. Not sure if that was due to gearing or not but suspect that it was. So, what goes around, comes around, only in a much more efficient and modern package.
Have to be careful tuning factory turbo gassers. Heard from a tech working at ford dealership that Ecoboosts are already running close to their limit and when they are tuned they start showing up with problems. Also with the Hurricane, wonder if it will have dual injectors; one in the port to keep the intake vale’s from coking?
I remember when everything came stock with an inline six, it's 40 years later and I'm still unimpressed (personal opinion). But anything can be souped up. The question is: Is this thing going to last? Will it still be fast with 150,000 miles on the clock or will it be rusting in a junk yard, going nowhere fast at 60K? Remember we're talking about Renault/Fiat here not the good old boys at mopar that brought us the 225, 383 and 318 that ran forever.
The "good old boys" era at Chrysler ended in bankruptcy, twice, if you'll kindly remember. And this engine was designed by Peugeot, not Renault or Fiat. Renault is part of the Nissan alliance, and Fiat is a dead company walking, thankfully. And did you even watch the video? This engine IS souped up. The standard version has more power and torque than the small Hemi, and the performance version outdoes the 6.4 Hemi. Direct injection and turbocharging FTW. Oh, and a nice, light, high strength aluminum block, not some antiquated iron block pushrod dinosaur. I'll miss the sweet sound too, but there's just no need for V8 engines anymore.
@@foomanshooo Chrysler engineering hasn't produced a decent reliable drive train in over a decade... I saw the specs, and I've seen scrap yards and repair shops full of really nifty high performance Chrysler products that produce 0 horse power at the wheels after only a few short years of being on the road. I will try and be fair and give this new wonder motor a couple of years to prove itself (an abysmal failure) just to be fair. I think most car owners value reliability over HP, don't get me wrong, I like HP... a lot... but only when the car is actually running. High tech alloy, direct injection, and turbo chargers on a straight 6 is still just lipstick on a pig. Chrysler is only doing it, because straight 6's are way cheaper to build than V engines.
Glad I just got my 2021 Daytona gotta hold on to her. I cant stand hearing a car that’s not a V8 any more . You think V8 resale value will jump once they are gone ?
I follow a guy that stuffed a 2jz Supra engine in a Camaro with twin Turbos and it makes 1400hp and runs sevens. I love the sound of my 06 Charger RT but I love the 6 Toyota made and the stupid power they can make reliably. This could be very similar if they get everything right. Will be interesting to see how it works out and I'm intrigued.
A little worried about the aluminum cylinders, especially when it comes to a built or a rebuild, to do a full build with a bigger bore you would have to sleeve them or have the walls coated again
I am a V8 fan myself, but man oh man did I enjoy the V6 in the 2013 and 2014 Mustang...it was too good so it only lasted 2 years. With the official Roush cat-back it sounds great! I wound up giving the car to my mother though, and have a Z28 currently, with the 6 speed.
As the happy owner of 2 ecoboost engines, both with over 100k miles, it's nice to see Ram & GM eating their trash talk about boosted engines in standard applications. Ford jumped into turbos with both feet, and endured years of trash talk from every corner except 95% of the people who actually bought one. I miss my V8 sounds, but my 10 yr old F150 ecoboost with 163k miles on it.... it blew the doors off my 2021 GMC X31 company truck. That 5.3L ecotec has nothing on my old ecoboost. Low-end tq makes a massive difference when towing. When i am pulling my boat at 75 mph, I'm getting 98% of my 425 ft lbs of tq. I hope ram got the tq curve right on this I-6.
Hopefully they give us new SRT type variants but with the HO inline 6-->jeep grand cherokee, charger/challenger, durango, maybe a new midsized suv? so much potential!!
For me the lure of the hemi V8s have always been reliable performance. But looking at the design specs of the the I6 high ouput have me rethinking my 2024 Scatpack purchase.
I hate to sound like a dinosaur 🦖 I won’t be buying inline 6 or anything turbo. It’s not me that loses, I don’t have to buy new. I’ll stay Hemi, even if I have to do older restorations. I don’t like electric. I am starting to feel like Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino.
Lol I'm in my 30s and I'm starting to feel like that too. Electric is such a downer and they're pushing it so hard. Companies should be allowed to make both V8s and electric and have people decide what to buy. Forcing people with extra fees or taxes to buy electric is a freakin scam.
Loved the sound of the 3.8 v6 in my grand national, but these smaller inline 6s certainly won’t sound like that. Just whistled everywhere and grumbled pretty well through 2.5 and 3 “ dual exhaust. These new efficient turbos don’t add much sound at all. The plus is how easily the power can be added. Give it more fuel and more boost you get more power.
I grew up in the 1960's and V-8's ruled back then. But times have changed and now is the time for turbo charged four and six cylinders. The porchse engines are opposed six cylinders and I'm not a fan of Porchse. The new "Hurricane" I am excited about. I've owned a few in line six cylinders in the past and they were tough and produced great amounts if torque. Horsepower may sell, but torque gets you going. The in line design makes a lot of sense to me. When you design a dual overhead engine the in line engine is simple to design. When desgning a "V" engine with dual overhead cams things get compicated and the timing chains can be a nightmare. For this reason I am excited about the new in line Hurricane engine coming out.
I'm leary of this new engine from Stellantis. 22-26 PSI of boost is pretty high and long-term reliability may be an issue. However, BMW's B58 is an incredible 3.0L inline 6 with great tuning potential. I'm hoping Stellantis builds something similar with the Hurricane.
Not a fan of the B58 partly because of Vanos/timing chain being on back of motor but it has proven to be quite tunable. Time will tell but my favorite BMW inline 6 is the N54. Looking forward to seeing what can be done with these new ones from Stelantis.
"long-term reliability" figure are now in single digits. After the 3 year lease or 7 year loan is done you trade it in as long as they had a sale with the first they don't care, It''s the second/third owner's problem
It's not just that this is the closest thing America gets to a 2JZ. but a new inline six recalls the legacy of Chrysler's legendary Slant 6, and to Jeep with the AMC inline 6.
Had a gladiator Rubicon manual, great truck ,put almost 50,000 in the first year great truck outside of the engine bad mpg with no power. Have a 2 door black diamond bronco with a manual transmission almost 19 miles to a gallon in sport mode all the time and running it .300 plus hp and torque it runs truck is a blast. For pickup duty I got a used 2019 Ridgeline, good little truck and its quick and gets 20 plus mpg and is comfortable and fits lots of stuff. But if they make a HO GLADIATOR HURRICANE WITH A MANUAL TRANS, THE BRONCO AND THE RIDGELINE ARE GETTING TRADED IN ON WHAT WITH BE MY SECOND GLADIATOR,NO BRAINER OR EVEN A HO RAM HURRICANE WITH A MANUAL AND SOME TRX BITS. BRING ME THE PAPERWORK. I LOVED MY RAM AND MY DAKOTAS WITH THE OLD MAGNUM 4.7S THEY RAN AND SOUNDED GREAT!!!
Wondering what version will show up in a Jeep GC’s if it shows up at all ? Talk about edging out the competition. Average HP for the class is around 280 to 300.
That's BMW though.. their thing has always been straight sixes. Chrysler made good V8s that's about it. Their 4 and 6 cylinders have always sucked, so have their transmissions. Build qualitys all over the board too.. I would say if your in the market for either one just get the beemer, just a better car all the way around with waaaaay more of an after market than this thing, better interior, gas mileage etc.
@@adamguzzo94 The slant 6 is a fine engine, and the 727 torqueflite is solid transmission. Unless you're talking about *new* Chrysler, in which case, yes, they're abysmal.
@@riogrande163 had a 727 in a ramcharger and never had a problem with it, even after towing shit with it I shouldn't have. Slant 6s were ok but they weren't exactly powerhouses but yea modern Chrysler blows ass.. they have their moments where they do things well but their new small motors are garbage and I believe zf makes the trans they use in the hell cats so that's why they hold together cause the little cars and jeeps will shit them left and right.
Yeah the turbo cars can make tons of power. A boosted car will always do better than n/a. But even as the hp numbers go up in a boosted car the mpg goes down. A stock audi rs5 and m4 are rated at same mpg as a ss or gt.
Back in the late 80's early 90's, I had a friend with an inline six manual transmission in a 4X4 Ford F150. He drove it like he stole it constantly and it never missed a beat. That thing was indestructible.
Thank you for another great video. I am interested to see how the inline 6 engine goes. I still like the V8 sound and feel. I am open on what will be next for Dodge!
My last online 6 4.0 litre was in my 2000 Jeep Cherokee. It was plenty of motor and i had no issues while putting 255,000 miles on her. I sure miss it. I look forward to these new motors.
Hate they killed off the old 4.0s in the Jeep. Wish they had kept it and threw a turbo on it. But a new straight 6 motor with twin turbos was more than I every imagined.
I too love the sound of a V8, my next choice would be a turbo charged in-line 6. The only I6 vehicles I’ve been in have been my friends M325i and my uncle’s megacabs powered by, an I6 Cummins diesel so different animal. But I did like the power delivery of that engine.
Most likely the only V8 in an "open top" Jeep, the 392 Rubicon, would be replaced by the HO version of the "Hurricane 6" as all other 392 apps will be.
When you have to consider efficiency anything lower than 500cc per piston (4.0L in V8's) is just too low, and even then it'd have to be VERY WELL MADE.
It's a damn shame the V8's are going away but as long as Dodge can still produce such insane cars, it'll be fine. 400HP+/500HP+ for an Inline 6? I'm down for it. Maybe I'll replace the V6 for one of these motors.
This little I-6 will be running "on the turbo" nearly all the time on the highway which will wear out the turbo prematurely. Turbochargers are very expensive to replace. Also, this will be a very poor engine for Jeep Wranglers, because when going offroad, the engines are running barely above idle, around 11-1200 rpms, and at this engine speed, there is no turbo boost available due to the throttle being almost closed. For this reason, you never see an off-road vehicle with a turbo, engines with power boosters all have regular superchargers. Cars (and trucks) with turbos are only found in highway use, and then only when passing. These new engines are rated at 400 and 500 hp, but that's when "on the turbo." When not "on the turbo" we only have a 180 cid inline 6 engine.
All you can hear on that HO Hurricane is the massive cooling fans. My son works for Chrysler and brought home a Grand Wagoneer. While I can usually hear his Challenger exhaust coming down the street from my back yard, what I heard when he pulled that thing up to the house sounded like a fan boat from the Florida Everglades. Lame….
A hundred years ago, a Model T made 20 HP from a 2.9 L flathead four. The Model came along with a slightly bigger 3.1L four that put out TWICE the horsepower. Will it blow up... no it didn't. Nearly a century later, we are still suspect of any new engine that promises more power from more intensive use of the same basic hardware. Yes, I am suspicious of any engine promising 150 + HP per liter, particularly if that output is expected continuously for a half hour... or more. But there are some brilliant young engineers behind these new Hurricane engines, and it is their turn to show us what can be done. And I know I am not alone... The more successful these engines are, the more time I have before I must go electric.
I like the design, looks easy to work on. Electric timing , easy,...turbos and release valve on the side, easy to get to,... water pump right up front, easy to get to. Very simple design, should be reliable, and easy to repair.
🫠🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you’ll eat these words in a few years when taxes hit you over the head. Adapt to change. You only hate on a v6 just because it’s a v6 not because if the power.
@@ChrissyAnn85 I dont think so. Side note: Why the heck would I get taxed for having a V8? Pushing trash electric isn't enough, they want to tax anyone having fun?
I have heard about the hurricane maybe it's going to be a good motor we won't know until it comes out I love my 2019 Dodge 4x4 Laramie 5.7 Hemi max tow package I love this truck
The muffler , intake exhaust is the one that makes it rumble,, forged aluminium n some will be parts forged iron,, I think there working on something ,8.0 liter the inline 3.0 hurricane n trackhawk, numbers,, inline jeeps have that rumble that think it's a V8 truck
I'm glad they are going with a straight 6 instead of just repurposing the Pentastar V6 for everything. Their V6 is one of their better engine designs overall, but V6s are nobody's favorite to begin with and not ideal for trucks and muscle cars, and straight 6s can sound incredible. I'm also glad that the next Charger/Challenger will have the OPTION for EV and I6TT, this is the best course they can do. Everyone gets pissy over the fact that the EV option exists, even if it's not the only option.
Love straight 6's back in the day 258 I6 4.2 AMC motor was awesome for durability. Then the FI 4.0 I6 AMC motor. So good to see Jeep going back to the AMC days. As for Chargers had great Chargers in the past without V8's in the 80's loved Shelby GLHS Charger and that had a 2.2 4 cyl Turbo. Love those 80's turbo Dodges and sure these will be as cool. That said let's be glad they are just building them.
Well I beg to differ! The 5.7 can take boost as long as it’s tuned correctly. Modern Red Hemi on RU-vid has been killing it with his stock bottom end 5.7. 15lbs and it’s looking pretty happy!
I'm old and am allowed to be stubborn. So I bought a hemi. If the new six is lighter and faster I really don't care. That V8 sound means that much to me. And my street racing days are long over.
direct injection scares the hell out of me, without fuel washing the intake valves they will likely get pretty nasty by about 100k miles. dirty intake valves wont be good for emissions so after some miles you start to negate your clean emissions then it will certainly end up leading to a major repair. ford learned a hard lesson with their direct injection engines and eventually created a combo setup that included direct and port injection so they could get some fuel to wash intake valves. direct injection looks good on paper but in practice not so much.
Everyone is complaining about this and there are definitely some purists who will always love the v8 no matter what and resist the new 6 or ev. But most will turn especially if the new engine is more powerful and faster. Look how everyone turns on cars that are a little older and a little less hp than the current year they say they are all slow and weak etc etc. I can almost guarantee you are right with weight reduction as well. The new challenger could be lighter plus the engine being lighter. Once the hurricane is smoking the scats it will be the only option for most just like the coyotes are for mustang. Im glad I bought my 21 scatpack new recently before the v8’s are gone and it doesn’t have to be the fastest thing on the planet, still awesome, the last pure old school muscle car to be produced will always be special..
I have a 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT. Is it possible for me to drop in a V10 and if so how many changes will I have to go through to make this sleeper happen?
Personally it looks like an absolute pain to work on with all the oil lines and pips running everywhere. I’m also willing to be that Intercooler leaks in the near future due to heat on the plastic and pinch points. Really I’d have to see one in an engine bay but just the engine itself does not look mechanic friendly unless sitting on a stand with clear access.
