dodie & Kati talk about derealization and depersonalization 

You can tell that Dodie is a songwriter by the way she explains her symptoms xx

Aw it was so cute when Dodie said "I've recently found a therapist that I really like" and Katies whole face lit up😭😭 I love how much she cares abt mental health it's so nice

"I made a rhyme in my head along with the sound of the click to calm my self down" Dodie you're so adorable

Oh wow I have read about derealisation and depersonalisation before and it was so nice to hear from someone who is affected how it feels and what their experiences are. The way you two put it into context made it much easier for me to understand the disorder. Also, Dodie has such a special way with words! I love both of you, thank you for sharing this truly amazing video!

The way I like to describe my depersonalization and derealization is it's like instead of choosing fight or flight when I have anxiety about something my body chooses freeze instead. That's actually the third response you can get in a situation like that. It's why people who have lived through trauma sometimes don't remember what happened or they dissociate during the event.

just went through hurricane Irma and I'm using the little battery I have left to watch this :D

I get this in episodes... usually a few weeks to a couple months at a time. The last time I had it I had this instance in the shower where it really escalated for a few hours... I felt like my body was foreign and I was trapped in it... crazy stuff man. Just remember, it’s just a feeling, you’re okay, ignore it and enjoy life to the best of your abilities. Whoever is reading this, know that I care about you and hope you recover soon :)

You actually changed my life. For I think about four years ago, you made a video on this topic and I remember I started crying when you, an actual therapist, explained that this was a real thing and I wasn't going crazy. For so long no one listened or believed me when I tried to explain. At first I tried covering my questions with jokes like "hey, you know that feeling when you forget who you are" - and when they didn't I just laughed... For a while I just wandered in this dream world until I couldn't manage an asked my doctor for help. She just looked confused at me and referred me to a psychiatrist who was more than convinced that I was schizophrenic. Even though I was missing a lot of critias to meet that diagnosis. I just couldn't find any explanation for what was happening to me so I believed her. But then I found your video! At first I was relieved and thought that now I could get the right help. Boy I was wrong! Turns out that because I was "branded" everything I argued or suggested must be a delusion.. So for now I'm out of treatment options. But I'm trying to find a different way to cope and I might find a good way some day. I just wanted to say, that it helps me tremendous amounts to know what is actually happening to me, and that I'm not alone! From the bottom of my heart - Thank you, Kati! Thank you! (I hope you understand what I'm writing. English is not my first language and touch keyboard, you know)

Sometimes when I am in a room with more than two people it feels as though my brain gets overwhelmed and I sink into this depersonalized spaciness where I don't talk much or interact. Funny because I work at a restaurant and am incredibly bubbly and talkative. But when it's personal time, I don't know: something changes. Happened a lot when I was a teenager. I'm in my early twenties now and I find it's still happening - even so, it happens when I'm alone now, too. So strange. It makes me have little to no productivity some days, because I just get to lost in an emptiness. How Dodie explains her trying to wake up, or open her eyes more - I feel that way sometimes, but I feel like it's different; I have pretty awful sight, so sometimes I don't notice right away, because without my contacts everything is already out of focus. It's tough to recognize, but my brain gets so lazy and shuts off. But it comes and goes. What can I do to better ground myself?

Stay strong guys, never give up, you are stronger than depersonalization

my mums!!!!

Adding to what Dodie said, in the UK charities are a GREAT way to access therapy if you can't afford private rates. Especially look out for local charities. After I was seen by the CAMHS crisis team, they referred me to a local charity called The Lowdown. They found a therapist for me within 8 week while I've been on the NHS waiting list for a year and I still haven't been offered anything. My last session at The Lowdown is on Friday. It's scary but it's incredible how much it's helped me and that's all because of a charity!

I feel like I take too much of a 'break', and use my Dissociation as a sort-of excuse to not do things.. People are mostly aware that I have Dissociation but it's not something they can properly understand, neither is it something worth mentioning every day?! I think it's just hard in general because your brain has 'excused itself' from all the stress you've been through, yet you end up being more stressed because of it and trying to balance life..

A phrase I got off Jenna Marbles about days of nothing is that ‘It’s nothing but it doesn’t serve for nothing’ and that really helps me to take days off without as much guilt

"I'll try this, and it WILL WORK." -- Me, with everything I try, always.

what's the thing when you feel constantly tired and your there but not really there... it's hard to explain

I am so glad you and Dodie made these videos. I suffer from derealization and depersonalization caused by PTSD and I am so glad that there are more and more resources out there for people like me. Thank you so much.

I HAVE BEEN WISHING FOR THIS COLLABE FOR THE LONGEST TIME OMG YAY! Dodie is so inspirational , and Katie i wish u were my therapist

I like to take a bath with a book. Sitting still stresses me out more. But the bath makes me relax and the book makes me stay and not stress out

I've been dealing with derealization most notably since I incured a concussion 3 years ago in addition to being in an emotionally abusive household since I was four (now 19). I've self-treated by vehemently rejecting my past as valid and have developed a hyper-extraversion in order to establish strong positive emotional relationships and memories to fall back on in the future to ground me. Having regularity to the people I see (work helps with this & my weekly guitar lessons) has given me stability and continuity for the past four months to where I no longer am as troubled by it. As far as I know, my derealization stems from going through multiple divorces as a young kid, switching schools leaving me with a chronic sense of abandonment. In my adult life, I'm not flamingly passionate about establishing a rich sense of community for myself and those around me and making those I'm involved with feel their existence is entirely essential in the environment we interact in.

I'm so glad you two collab'd! I've been waiting for agessss!!

I have been waiting for this collab to happen! I love Dodie and Kati so much. :)

Watching the mental health panel at vidcon had me in tears the entire time because it was so raw and accurate and it made me realise how many people could relate to my experiences

I love dodie! Thank you so much for always doing great videos and collabs! 💜

I've been waiting for this collab for so long.

ahhhh - I can already tell this is going to be heartfelt and sweet

OH MY GOD THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS, YOU'RE MY FAVORITE 2 RU-vidRS

yes!!! Love both your channels, so glad to see that you were able to meet in person!

I love you both, I'm so glad you made these together

I love this, Dodie explains it so well and it's great to see all different types of dissociation are being talked about more now, love you guys, keep doing you

This is a wonderful video, thank you so much. So glad I found your channel!

awwww yay it's Dodie!! Love you both so much, you're amazing!

That sounds like it could be really scary! thank you for stepping up and talking about this. I love dodo's music!

oh my, i love you both this is perfect for this moment of my life, thank *you*

i love dodie, her music has been helping me through a really tough time

I love this and the video you guys did on dodie's channel ❤️ that k you bringing awareness to a part of mental health that isn't readily available to most people :)

i found your channel when i got the notification for the video on dodie’s channel and i’m so happy i did

This makes me so incredibly happy to see two of my favourite humanoids together in videos :) I've had a bad few weeks but this was a nice start to the week 💙💫thanks so much.

You two were absolutely fantastic on the mental health panel thank you both for taking part ❤️ consider myself subscribed!!

this really helped me, i constantly feel derealization and i didn't even know what it was and it just felt terrible and crazy, i'm so glad i know more now. thank you !!

These are live saving collabs, dodie my favorite and wholesome artist and a super awesome and kind pshychologist comforting me about my disorder :)

so great to see you two together in a video! also really love your shirt Kati!

I'm honestly so happy I found this channel bc I've always wanted to be more educated about mental health and illnesses, (lol thanks dodie for introducing me). I'm really enjoying all this content!

Everything that I feel finally makes sense. I feel so relieved.

Two of my absolute faves in one video! Thanks so much for this☺️☺️ xx

Dodie Is amazing! this subject really speaks to me. thank you katie and dodie

DODIE, I LOVE HER SO MUCH. I am a huge fan and i am so happy to see my fav 2 in 1 video

She is such an angel!! I have been listening to her music for two years now and I am so glad you got to meet her. Love you both!!

What a collaboration!! Never could have imagined this collab! This was so insightful and a wonderful conversation to watch. Thank you Kati for your fantastic videos and information and thank you Dodie for your wonderful honesty and music xx

I've been looking forwards to this forever! yayyyy ♥

As soon as I saw dodie's video I absolutely had to come follow this channel 💛 much love

So happy you guys did a collab!!!

I'm so glad to see you both in a video together at the same time. I love you both so much. I don't have these diagnoses but I do have PTSD from lots of severe and repeated things, so can relate. My brain gets so fuzzy and makes me feel really confused and useless, it is like it is protecting me from thinking too hard: I worry that I’ll lose myself to the guilt and despair and I’ll never be able to function again. I hope that isn't oversharing- I'm just so glad you guys put this stuff into words x

DODIE I LOVE YOU SO MUCH AND IM SO GLAD U GUYS DID THIS COLLAB

YAYYYYYYYYYY SOOOO EXCITED FOR THIS COLLAB!!!!

I love you and dodie so MUCH!! Yay! Thank you for this video!

i'm so glad that people like you and dodie are bringing these issues into the light. over this past summer, i struggled with depersonalization, and i didn't know that there was actually a term for it until dodie started talking about it. i'm so glad that she pointed us over to your channel! i can tell it's going to help me so much!

This is such a helpful video. Really grateful for your account (and dodies😊)

I means so much to here people talk about this because sometimes when I try to explain it to people who don't go through it I feel like I'm making excuses but stuff like this makes the world of difference.

This was so helpful!!! Thank you so much. I've been dealing with dp/dr for two years now and I've noticed a lot of progress the last four months. It's so hard to find information on it but this video was extremely informative and helpful.

Oh man, two of my favourite youtubers together, I love it! And on behalf of all MH professionals in the NHS, Dodie, we're very sorry for the long waiting times!

It's so nice to see you having a relaxed conversation about mental health without it being analysed too much, also to have it explained in a down to earth way ❤️

Your voice calms me so much!

Hello, Kati! I'm so glad I found your channel through Dodie! I'm a psychology major and I'm super sure your videos will help me further understand what I'm studying! :D

ahh finally!!! great video, i was so excited to watch this!

first time ive come across you dodie and i just wanna say i really love your attitude and your makeup is so pretty!

I just discovered your channel now through Dodie , and you are so great ! Definitely subscribing!

I too have this, and it very annoying so I'm happy that there are more people out there with this

I can't really say I'm having it on %100 or ever did, but there are just times where everything kind of goes still, feelings go quiet, and I feel like I can't see the things the way they were used to be so I try to open my eyes more but it doesn't work, same with breathing as well, just feel like I'm missing something. I've been watching Dodie for a while now and she is just wonderful and I realized what I was feeling were an actual thing, not just a part of who I was. And this video helped me even more! So thank you both for making such a wonderful video about this topic, it really means a lot to me.

I am 13 and I‘m sitting here in my room living my life day by day but just don’t really live, full of stress and feel so knock out, crying because idk who i am and waiting that its going to be better KILL me inside!!! The thing is I KNOW that this isn’t normal and the way I say that to me everyday, that broke me everyday a little more. Suicide isn’t a choice for me because I know what i am going to lose and what a Wastefulness this would be for my future life. But the hope that it all going to be better that keeps me up everyday. I love youre content!🥰 It really helps me to find a part of me or to understand myself a little bit more!! Love you 😘 😘

Two of my favorite youtubers! Together!

This was so helpful. Thank you so much.❤️

I love this collab!! Do it more often!! 💛 xxx

I've been waiting for a collab with Dodie!!

This was really informative and helpful in a way, I don't specifically have this but I like to learn and I'm glad that this video was made. Thank you so much

I have this but never realised until dodie talked about it. I had the guts to talk to a doctor when I realised I wasn’t going mad. Thank you dodie for being so open

Saw my 2 fav youtubers - clicked immediately!!! Saw you were on a panel together and hoped this would be coming ☺️

your videos are so informal. thank you for making them. subscribed! :)

I found your channel through dodie today and I am so happy about it! I watched some of your videos and the way you talk, the things you talk about and the way you explain them is amazing. I already feel safe watching your platform and i feel like i have an e-therapist. Thank you a lot!

I'M SO HAPPY THAT YOU TWO COLLABORATED! ❤️💛💚💙💜

MY TWO FAVOURITES TOGETHER UGH MY HEART ❤️❤️

Eeeeeeeeeeee I love this collaboration! Two of my favourite people 💜💜💜💜💜💜

I think I'll rewatch this many many more times. Both videos are greaat😊🙌🏼. You both are so awesomee. This made my day haha.

wow I didn't even know that dodie and I experienced similar things! I'm so happy to have found this so now I can go to her channel after so many years and try to feel validated because I can resonate with a lot of the things she said :')

An explosion of wholesomeness.

its lovely seeing you guys together :)

Love this video! thank you or making it!

I saw you both at the mental health panel at VidCon last weekend, and I thought it was so somgood. I suffer from anxiety (which can cause depression for me), and have for most of my life, and being able to hear professionals and others who experience similar feelings was really inspiring and informative. So thank you so much ❤️ You also now have a new subscriber, Kati!

THE DUO I NEVER THOUGHT I NEEDED

This is so helpful! I deal with depersonalization but I have never gotten a clear and concise explanation of the differences in between depersonalization, derealization, and dissociation. I'm going to share this with my therapist this week, I think he'll like it. Thank you so much, you've been a great help :)

Been waiting for this video for a long time:)

Thank you for all that you do Kati :)

I LOVE THIS SO MUCH

great videos!! I have a friend with DRD and I try to help as much as I can, thank you for sharing ways for me to help a little more :)

Dodie your explanation of your experiences is very similar to mine. I feel like I can't open my eyes wide enough. At first I thought I needed glasses, but I found it did not fix it. I do feel more like in a dream than I want to be. Thank you for sharing.

OMG this collab is too pure

I just wanted to say thank you for making this video, it educated me so much. I honestly can't believe i didn't know more about it before. I also think having a personal POV (dodies) as well as a professional POV was so helpful to try and understand both the causes and the experience. My friend has derealisation and hopefully this video will mean i can help and support her better. p.s. dodies music really helps her feel understood and hopefully this video will make her feel less alone too.

Hey Kati,firstly GREAT collab with the beautiful Dodie,Secondly I really appreciated being able to sit in on your mental health panel at vidconAus,Thirdly Thank you for everything you are doing in regards to Mental health. I have PMDD(actually on zoladex right now in lead up to surgery) social anxiety,depression,lupus and fibromyalgia. I have a wonderful psychologist now and your videos have helped so much that after watching I make a little note to discuss it over with my psych to see if she thinks what I am thinking for myself based of what I have learnt from you.

Dodie looks like such an amazing person to hang around with

The NHS can be incredibly frustrating when it comes to mental health for adults. When I went to seek help last year I was told I would be put on a nine month waiting list. Thankfully, I had the resources to go privately. I really feel and fear for those who cannot afford to pay for treatment though. Thank you for this video! Informative and Dodie I love how far you have come in terms of trying out different treatments through trial and error. Keep on creating informative and helpful content Kati, and Dodie I'm so grateful for your discussion on mental health.