Does Being Fat Make You Better At Baseball? 

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I'm assuming having enough lipids allows elasticity to apply while maintaining the mass on your body/arms as your body swings to hit the object or throw. There is a way to maintain both weight, elasticity, and uh balance/ clumsyness. Hard to balance, even with expects.

Being fat doesn't make anyone better at anything! And these stories aren't proven just hear say...

​@@MrHeroicDemonbruh get a life lmao

$11 a meal is way more expensive than going to the grocery store

I'm happy for CC's health post baseball. But man, beer gut CC was a PROBLEM! 😂

Its a thing with some nfl linemen to lose the weight after playing days. I heard a former panthers linemen lost all the weight and ran a marathon

he was skinny for a short time late in his career, and it was probably his worst season, I knew that weight distribution thing was real because of it. glad he's healthier in retirement, though.

Mass=Gas in the words of CC. He said he wasn’t getting the velo when he was in his best shape.

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However, a decent amount of the stars listed aren't particularly fat.

He ignores fat vs muscle, doesn't factor for height at all, and even misrepresented weights on his hitter lists. For example he has Miggy at 267 which was his 2023 weight when his 2013 Topps Card lists him at 240. He also had trout listed at the same weight for every season on there. And counted Ohtani as overweight

⁠@@thomascevallos5042he literally said Miggy weighed 240 in 2013 11:15

@@ayarzeev8237 in the top OPS+ seasons earlier in the video, he lists 267 next to his 2013 OPS falsely increasing the correlation between weight and performance

@@thomascevallos5042 I see the point you are referencing now. That may have been a typo on the slide given what he said later in the video.

kiesha dmitri and mikey are also good at baseball and they're big to

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On the old slow ass PC . Great childhood memories , that little midget could ball

This needs to be discussed in Food Theory

Oh my gosh if i could play that game rn

Exactly, if these guys were 5-9 or 5-8 they would be way overweight but these guys are very tall

Yeah, I saw Aaron Judge on that list and was like???

The thing is the standard that determines overweight are outdated to be fair, and don’t take into account muscle.

Basically weight is weight. Your body is not designed to deal with it whether its all muscle or all fat. Muscle being denser and the actions you take to gain it tend to be healthier then just being a blob but your still going to run into problems from the added wear and tear.

This was David Ortiz. On TV he looked fat, but to see him in person, he was just a massive human being altogether.

Kung Fu Panda dodge

Tall and muscular counts as overweight I guess 😭😭😭

Yeah, the biggest reason baseball players are heavier than ever is because they are more muscular than ever. People don’t realize that weight training was not a widespread practice in MLB circles until the 1990s, and that practice is not going away any time soon.

@@MisterVicky9 They're using BMI so anyone who's built is gonna count as overweight...I hope to god that paper he's mentioning doesnt also use BMI as its criteria for overweight

Well if it's based on the BMI, which is a very flawed metric, then it would make sense they would be "overweight"

im 6'4 / 215 and I'm technically overweight

that whole paragraph is soooo funny 😂😂😂😂😂

I want whatever he ate now. You know he eat good.

That publisher literally had something against fat people 😂😂

Best quote ever

@@willnyc377they probably did, but honestly that exact statement could be made in an admirable, positive way depending on intention, tone and context. It’s not inherently insulting and could believably be affectionate…but considering it was 2000 I’m gonna assume it wasn’t. Fuckin brutal though.

Realisticly if the average height of Americans was 6-3 none of these guys would be overweight

My BMI is perfect but I'm skinny fat 🤷

It’s only for normal people

@@kingyellowman5762skinny fat? Gtfo here

The big problem with BMI is that the number itself is meaningless without context, and because of its nature, the context that's provided is super generalized. The "healthy" BMI range is based upon the "average" person, but the nature of humans is that we aren't average, we all have unique quirks that require much more relative metrics. Someone that has a larger overall build might not actually be healthy by getting their weight into the healthy range. On the flip side someone that has a low percentage fat composition can be considered obese if they build enough bulk, but the nature of getting to that level of fitness means having to be the most healthy you can be. So at the end of the day the only thing that BMI alone is good for is comparing your weight to people of a similar height. It takes other metrics to understand whether a person's weight is a problem or not (or in this case to compare whether baseball players are better because they're fatter or have just bulked up more)

I was the fat kid but was able to get pretty fit in high school to play baseball 1B because I loved it so much and used Kobe mentality as a model to approach the game. Although I lost weight I still had a big body mass, but because I stayed active I was quick and knowledgeable at base stealing, and slides. My coach used to be impressed because during our sprints he would say "u got a set of wheels, kid". There were players much bigger than me on the team but they were not as active and it showed because they didn't field or run as good. I think there can be a method to finding a good balance of being husky but active to improve any baseball player. I think running is essential to a players regimen because of stamina and energy required to make great plays. But that's my 2 cents

Nah, fat is only good for hitting, not for fielding, even pitching can work since they don't have to move.

@@capybaraponque611 or base running, production wins gamss

@@capybaraponque611There’s probably a middle ground like most things. Sprinting around the bases is not the same as cross country. I was chubby and one of the hardest hitters on my team, also one of the fastest runners and was catcher, doing squats all day. Maybe the consequential legs of steel from squatting with the extra weight made me run faster…

@@202cardline lemme see those buns

And at 6 foot 1, 220 pounds, considered obese.

Nice lil warm up

Probably was light beer, yeah

Nah

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Natty lite

Seeing as it doesn't exist, saying that it's on RU-vid is sort of redundant, don't ya think?

I loved jomboy so much and still do that I couldn't imagine someone coming along and doing baseball content even better. But this guy is it.

@@corywilson2007 jomboy has fallen off and just shills out content now.

@@z.r.r4593 I feel that too. Seemed like he barely did any baseball videos last year compared to the previous years.

​@@z.r.r4593 He never does the lipsync stuff, which is what made him blow up. 😮‍💨 😢

What does this say about baseball

​@@kevinbeazy What does it say about power lifting? Who cares. Big dudes bring power.

I click and I watch to the end everytime.

I'm from England and have never watched a baseball game in my 29years , but I like the vids/storys

I also watch jomboys cricket videos, even though ive never watched a match haha. ​@dtha_truth6079

Same

Exactly. Survivor bias. People look at antique furniture or houses and they say “things were better made back then.” Wrong. They made plenty of things poorly or cheaply 100 years ago. And that stuff didn’t exist anymore. We see only the 100-year old products that happened to have been well made. People also take better care of the best made products.

The players that lost weight on team orders and started sucking probably lost muscle weight because losing the fat was too hard in such a short time. Everyone knows muscle is easier to lose than fat. That would easily explain their regressions.

@@jamesdrake142Same is true for music.

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In the words of John Daly: "You can't pull fat"

🎶 sixty niiiiiine when you eat a junk lunch

Lots of cocaine too

Dude legit called Mike Trout overweight. Wtf

BMI only takes height and weight into consideration. Height is definitely considered. Body fat is what's missing.

@@holstorrsceadus1990 BMI is body mass not body fat. in general if it fat or muscle you can still be over weight , look at body builders who are like 5 ft 9 and 250 lbs who are 5% body fat ... they still are considered over weight.

muscle is whats missing. most strong men are fat simply because restricintg your calories is stressful@@holstorrsceadus1990

He should look at BMI. But still, the physics make sense. In positions of leverage (ie hitting and pitching) extra weight / more mass helps generate power. In positions of running/speed/agility (eg fielding, running bases) it will work against you, slow you down.

Favorite player of all time.

and he's still a model today ;D big and sexy

'Big Sexy' is one of the best nicknames in MLB history

My friend’s aunt, who is a current anchor for a local station in Cleveland, got her first real job talking to the players because she knew Spanish. She said Bartolo was a riot even then and a huge flirt. Apparently Bartolo stopped chasing women and started chasing Taco Bell. What a legend. Haha

they don't call him 'big sexy' for nothin

It's possible but it could easily be a chicken or the egg sort of situation did the weight loss cause his struggles or did his struggles cause his weight loss. Then again, you could just be one of those situations You can find and basically every sport where a really great player has a really short prime

@karlwithak. you do realize that King Felix was 33 when he threw his last pitch, right? Also, players tend to put on weight as they age, not the other way around.

And judge, ohtani, freeman and more... really makes you think the whole thesis of the video is wrong...

They are technically overweight by bmi. BMI doesn’t account for muscle or where your weight comes from

@@fio6620 thats why scaled bmi's are dumb

@@Bigfluffinfluff I mean I agree, but my point still stands, and it’s 100% where some of these figures in the video are coming from

@@Bigfluffinfluffthey are one indication of problems with weight, however bmi alone is pointless, especially in athletes. In non athletes it can be one factor to pay attention.

Andre the Giant put away 100 beers in a sitting. Wade Boggs did not.

Being fat sux unless you're rich

@@kingyellowman5762 not for Chris Farley

@@stewpitteejit I assure you he lived a better life than a skinny broke mf

I used to get annoyed as hell when watching Miggy jog to first base when he hit a grounder.

Hello heart disease

Says the guy laying around playing video games, foh.

Huge respect for you, keep doing what you do and help your child, don't let others opinions affect you nor your son.​@@Bobby-Dingers

He would still be the best pitcher if he carried less mass. Correlation isn't causation.

Congratulations, your kid is fat. What a great parent you are.

Like you wouldn't. We all would.

Fuck yeah

Exactly. For Example, Yordan Alvarez weighs 225, and is included in the "overweight" category in the video, even though his BMI (26.5) is lower than his teammate Jose Altuve's (26.7). Freddie Freeman is also "Over 210 lbs" but he's nearly a foot taller than Altuve, so his BMI is lower. It's not just about being "fat" it's about being big.

THIS comment. The BMI wasn't even invented for what it's used for now. The guy who came up with it was only trying to see what averages were for men, and he only studied white European men. He specifically said it shouldn't be used for any individual recommendations. It wasn't meant as a measure of who should lose weight or not, it was just a measure of what average was. If they had all been fatter, the average would have been fatter, too. But now we're all reduced to a number and most people aren't going to get down to the "right" BMI and stay that way.

Height doesn’t matter

Yeah it does

And he's muscular, not fat. Statistics would suggest he'll probably be a giant whale after he's been retired for a few years 🤣🤣, but as of now, he's not fat at all.

He’s also built like a titan so he doesn’t count in this regard

@@sloshtugz4087are you slow

I am a mets fan, and vogelbach was really good besides the 2 months slump in the beginning of 2023 season

@@mikerogers5086 never said he was bad, but the man sure isn’t a power hitter. His strength is his discipline.

@emilyg3758 his strength wasn't home runs, but his exit velocity was in the top category in the league. His hitting came from his power.

@@mikerogers5086 Well yeah, but the comment was about driving the ball far, not hitting line drives into gaps. One doesn't typically refer to a gap hitting leadoff center fielder as a "power hitter" even if he can hit the ball hard, so why should we apply a different principle to Vogey? There's more than EV that goes into power hitting. Side note, if you looked further into the stats you're referencing for 2023, you'd see that his 17.6% bump in hard hit% and 4.1mph increase in average exit velo was accompanied by a nearly 10% bump in ground ball percentage. His ground ball/fly ball ratio increased by .24 points! All of this resulted in a whopping... .032 point decrease in slugging and a 0.8 point reduction in hr%. Oh and to do all this he took a nearly 5% point hit in his walk rate. So he isn't hitting the ball any farther than he has in the past. And that's okay! HRs aren't his strength. Historically, his value has come from his on base skills, not his average or slugging. A good example is to look at years where his EV and hard hit% have been down, like 2022 or even 2020. His effectiveness really doesn't reduce that much. He's still walking, he's still hitting line drives, and he's still effective. That's discipline, not power.

No joke, the longest homerun I ever hit in my modest playing career was a game where I was sick as hell, I had been throwing up all night and barely could walk. I was hitting leadoff so I just took a big vicious hack at the first pitch, because I was hoping to hit it a mile and not have to run the bases, fastball right down the middle, I cracked that sucker over the scoreboard in left center, probably about 380 maybe 400 ft.

@breadandcircuses8127i like big butts, & i cannot lie

Nah, the real question is is: how fat would Ohtani have to get to win cy young and the triple crown in the same season?

Wade Boggs is very much alive

@@trublaze This meme never gets old.

​@@BrassPlayr I must be new because I was very confused by the comment

Apparently you have never watched darts. Those dudes used to smoke during live television broadcasts. 🤣🤣

That makes zero sense. Explain how he got worse when he ballooned up then.

@@unkledoda420 he was simply getting older

both are bad

@jonathansykes4986 not really I'm overweight with single digit body fat

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I think his point is that if that's the case, then MLB is behind the times because they are trying to get people to hit target weights simply based on their height. Also, it seems like Baseball is the closest to Sumo and American Football in encouraging being so muscular that it almost makes you look fat.

Yeah I can't believe he wasn't mentioned in this video.

I remember he was a skinny kid on thr yankees and he really lost himself.

whats your name if you dont mind me asking?

@@aryansharma808 Mike Rossiter 38th pick in 91!

@@theathlete1903hey I looked up your name. It’s true, the A’s drafted you 1st round 38. You even played in Mexican league one year. You were a real baseball player.

@@engell3707 that’s me… actually played a couple years down there but only one shows hp! Fun times!

That's really cool thanks for sharing it