Daniel I have taken apart quite a few impact guns and what I see is it's the person that rarely uses it has the vanes stuck. I think using it occasionally and oiling it at the same time is what I think keeps it operating well. Maintenance doesn't cost you money it saves you repair costs. 👍👍
I've got an hf butterfly impact wrench that's gummed up and have been trying to disassemble it, trying to find RU-vid videos on the process. turns out it's not possible, with the end plate pressed on and no way to extract it. I may try a long soak with atf and acetone to see if it might work without disassembly.
Just by accident I used this oil on some large gate valves. It really made a difference than the regular blaster. It dissolves the old gunk, and leaves an oil film that lasts longer than the blaster penetrant. Even a valve with gear reduction it made a difference that can be felt.
One of the PM techs at my job was having a malfunction with his gun, can't remember exactly but I think the trigger wasn't letting air into the rotor. I put a bit into the inlet, let it sit like the instructions say for a few minutes and the next time we tried it his gun was kicking normally again. From that moment I was a believer. Put a little bit in my air tools every few weeks or so and run it and so far they've been holding up. Granted they're all IR so they're good to begin with but I have a feeling they're be working for a while to come.
Used it all the time at my previous job, we used Cleco grinders, both die and angle grinders ranging from 6" to 9", we used this all the time to lubricate them and it worked pretty good most of the time.
I have used marvel mystery oil for over 40 years as an air tool oil, they also have an air tool oil, according to the data sheet it is the same as marvel mystery oil. It has worked extremely well in my air tools, after years of use all continue to work well .
This stuff is likely ATF. ATF is very high in detergents and should do exactly the same thing as this product. That's why ATF is often used to desludge engines.
I recently got an Astro Nano based upon the real world experience Eric O. demonstrated. Darn him making my wallet lighter. Anyway it was a little sticky and wouldn't work on lowest forward setting. Just bled air through the tool. Used this stuff last week and it freed it right up. I didn't let it soak very long. I should do that and see if that improves things even more. I'm sure it's not just ATF but wondered if I had just bought an expensive can of pressurized ATF after using it based on the color etc.
It smells a lot like rubbing alcohol.....I am sure it is some proprietary mixture of various solvents/lubricants. And yes, with new impacts that are shipped....the factory lubricants collect at a low point & can gum things up.....glad to hear that yours was resolved!
Sorry, but it's not Kroil. Also, I don't like the way the Acetone/ATF mixture separates. Kroil cost more than any other penetrating oil and everybody that has ever used it keeps buying it. GOT TO BE A REASON. Kano Labs has been selling this stuff at least since 1970 when I was first introduced to it by my Dad who stole it from work (H.J. Heinz) and they're still selling it by the metric ton to every industrial manufacturer in the United States. When something has been around that long, and is only sold on performance, not price there has got to be a reason.
I will say this much about the Blaster ATC. Where I work we have a tool replacement program where if we have an issue with any tool the company will replace, or the tool room man will rebuild the tool for us regardless of warranty. I have done some treatments on my tools but i also mix a little bit in with my Marvel air tool oil so every oiling gets a little bit through the tool as well. Since I've been doing this (probably 4 years or so now) I have had exactly zero air tool failures. I also take good care of my tools, but they do get a lot of use in pretty harsh environments, lots of dust on the machines and in the air and water in the air from service trucks, etc. Can't say it's absolutely a result of my air tool oil cocktail, but it certainly doesn't seem to hurt and it has been cheap insurance against down time from not having one of my tools.
While I am sceptical of this product in the first place, I do think the test could have been done better, and here's why. Squirting just the liquid into the exhaust and intake ports will fill them, but because the exhaust port usually has a filter built in (called a silencer) it will likely soak up most of the liquid, preventing it from reaching the internal components of the motor.Silencer's are usually made of foam/sponge material. Likewise, squirting the liquid into the intake port will only loosen up debris up to the point of the trigger mechanism, which seals the unit from air and liquid until the trigger is pressed, again, limiting the fluid from reaching the engine unless the trigger is held while spraying. I didn't see the trigger held while spraying into the intake, so the liquid only really removed loose particles, not heavy coated grime or debris from the vanes of the motor itself, where it should be soaking. Just my 2 cents.
+Batrachian the intervals were thoroughly soaked.....as you can see from the massive amount of oil which sprayed out after the 10 minutes. The exhaust port drains directly into the motor.....the silencer is not absorbent, and other than being coated didn't retain the thin oil. Yes, I agree that the trigger needs to be depressed in order to drain the intake into the motor, which was also done....but apparently not in the clip shown. I rotated the anvil and could hear the fluid sloshing around inside. It was thoroughly soaked.
"Makes them like new"! Miracle cure in a can! I think it cleans and lubricates only and if your tool is gummed up from lack of maintenance and too much moisture in the air supply. Personally I've always put a few drops of Marvel or ATF every time I pick up the tools to use them and I've never had any issues except parts wearing over time.
I actually use either alcohol and transmission fluid, or diesel and transmission fluid mix. Run it once in a while through my air tools to keep them fresh. Works like a charm and much cheaper!
I wonder if your tool was already running at it's peak performance. I would like to see if your results would be more noticeable with a tool that is running poorly in the beginning.
i watch your videos prior to buying a new tool. to me you are the industry standard in tool reviews. complaint one: you don't open any of the tools up (you may loose sponsorship). complaint two: the clearly falsified numbers, such as amp ratings, or peak power, are never challenged (again, you may loose sponsorship). i suppose that is why i also have to watch AvE's reviews. between the both of you, i get the info i came for. the meters you buy are awesome. i love the real world standardized testing you perform. also, i can't stand the stock rock music from a paid sounds website. yours is the #1 i hear on every tool video.
Thanks....I am glad you like the videos. To address your complaints..... 1. I do open ratchets......I dont open power tools, since I do not have the technical background to explain all the working parts (like AvE does). 2. I do challenge marketing numbers WHEN I am able to accurately do so using equipment (such as Skidmores, runtime testing, etc). I dont agree with the manufacturer specs most of the time & I try to prove/disprove them if I have the ability to. As you can see from my testing, almost 100% of the time, my actual #s dont align with marketing specs. We are continuing to invest in more test equipment to prove what the specs really are. 3. The music --- sadly due to our wonderful copyright laws, I am extremely limited in the music that is allowed to be used. If I used the radio for example (in the background), my account would be deleted for violating copyrights. This is the world we live in.
I appreciate how you address complaints. Maybe you could find a friend who could play some music for you. I'm trying do play my own music, which is why it's taking forever to finish those Hobbit House videos. Thanks again for helping the workers make decisions.
thanks for replying, i appreciate your time. as you said "the world we live in". you changed my mind about the tool opening, if you don't have the expertise, then absolutely you shouldn't open them. even if you did, what would you say? (bearing type, metal composition, plastics composition and durability.) thank you for this piece of info. the music, yea i get that. keep up the great work, we rely on you. thank you very much.
Good demo video. I don't use pneumatic equipment often and stuff like this is informative. *- I know this is off subject but what was that thing in the background that looked like an Aircraft's Anti-Tank gun.
My Nitrocat sat in a cargo trailer with my compressor for something like 3 years. I finally got it out the other week, drained the tank and oiled & ran the gun a couple times not under load. I don't have a Skidmore but before it was parked it was on par with my cordless IR running off a lug nut and it seems to be the same now. When I first hooked it up it was indeed slow and anemic but after oiling, it gradually got faster and more responsive. So I'm not sure this Impact Blaster really does much.
the harbor freight tool earthquake XT 1/2 stubby ultra- light extreme torque air impact wrench with 700 torque. has pretty good guts in it for the prize. and with the two year warranty u can get. u cant beat it. it only weighs 2.4lbs. i use it all the time for my light weight work on small engines repair. i use it like a cordless drill its so lite. and i dont have to charge the batteries cuz there is none. u keep it clean and oil properly and dont throw it around it will last. my friend opened it up and him and i was surprised that what was on the inside was pretty good.
It'd be interesting to see this on a worn tool that had not been properly maintained. Or what's more likely, in my opinion, is that this is something homegamers would use for homegamer tools. The cheaper tools probably aren't built with the best materials or to as tight of tolerances leading to more debris. I wouldn't be surprised if this is most effective for the homegamer that treats his cheap tools poorly.
I think if you would have squeezed the trigger it would allow more of the conditioner to settle in the impact, if you just put oil in the inlet fitting it'll sit in there but if you pull the trigger it'll open up the valve and let it go through
Hey! great video as usual im a big fan of the way you test your tools. The only thing i didnt understand is why you only press the trigger 3 times for a short amount of time. why not run it for a longer period?
That is the electronic Skidmore which measures peak dynamic torque (how hard it hits with each impact of the anvil). It is much different than the benchmount version that has a large dial on the top & is tightening a large bolt. (With that test I let it run for 15 seconds to measure "max working torque"). If I let the electronic Skidmore test run for 5-10 seconds, the numbers wouldnt change.
If the tool is relatively new i wouldnt expect to see much of a difference. Try it on a tool thats much older and hadnt been used in a while. Would be interesting to see if it then " wakes" up the tool and give it a little ummmph back..
Any interest in doing a review of AMSOIL's Air Tool Oil? I'm a dealer and would like to see a 3rd party do a review of it. I changed over to AMSOIL from Lucas and I like the AMSOIL better...but most would chalk that up to be being a dealer.
Great review again, I like that you show that it does not work as good as you hoped, and thus be honest! You cost me so much money though ;-) One question, is there a reason you are using a normal air coupler instead of the Coilhose Pneumatics 5-in-1 Automatic Safety Exhaust couplers you reviewed? If you used them I think the oil would have sprayed everywhere a bit less because the tool is not presurrized when you connect it?
Thanks! I have the 3/8" fittings/couplers installed on almost all of the tools due to increased air flow (vs lower flow at the same pressures). I like the coilhose coupler, but rather than re-purchase all new 1/4" high-flow fittings for every tool to go along with them, I decided to stick with the 3/8" fittings that I already owned. You are correct though, the 5-in-1 couplers are nice & work very well.
I prefer 3/8" fittings with 1/4" NPT thread......or 1/4" high flow fittings with 1/4" NPT thread. As far as hoses, usually 1/2" ID to get the best flow.
I would like to see this test done on a really nasty beat up impact. Maybe get one from a pawn shop, like a 20-30 year old tool. Or maybe stop at a shop and ask an older mechanic if you can barrow his oldest impact. I bet you would see results then.
Ok. They seemed kinda normal size but the shape looked maybe G-style. Anyways, also worth considering for tool power that higher-flow couplers (H, P, V, G) get you a lot more power out of the same tool as they don't restrict flow as much. I run my stuff off V-style couplers, but the G-style ones are rated at 50% higher flow than those again, and V-style is about 50% more flow than most other coupler types. For reference, filter by either coupler type or airflow rating: www.miltonindustries.com/couplers-and-plugs.html If you're not running the bigger plugs yet, might be worth picking up some V or P ends and replacing the compressor and tool end of your setup and testing the resulting torque? :) On the same note it surprises me that all of the ultra-powerful 1/2" impacts these days don't have a 3/8" port for the coupler/whip instead of 1/4".
I actually made a video about that before.....specifically to prove line size & coupler size makes a huge difference on the static pressure & working pressure. Check it out here --- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MHx2EUWYzuM.html
Nice, hadn't found that as I was looking for some videos on the couplers themselves. It would be really nice if more smaller compressors had larger fittings and higher-flow regulators, for sure. Speaking of, worth having on-hand for hose size: www.gates.com/catalogs-and-resources/resources/repository/calculator/air-flow-calculator
u use seafoam on all my power tools. i never had a problem with using it. my grandfather told me about it. and i have his tools that some date back to WWll in fact.
Does the product claim to increase torque output? I oil my pneumatic tools to prolong service life. Seems like this product is intended for routine maintenance
Judging by when you connected the air hose and the oil sprayed all over your glove you didn't squeeze the trigger to allow the oil to drain out of the fifitting into the tool... Meaning it didn't get to soak..... Flawed test
He's right u gotta pull the trigger for it to drain down in the beginning when dripping a few drops daily or in this case spraying. Then have it open when hooking the line up so it runs through the tool not right back out the fitting.
To be honest I don’t care if there was a performance increase. I mean it’s just good cleaning maintenance, probably need a really dirty air tool that’s hardly been oiled to see an actual increase.
U need a real old gun, that was disappointing. I have an old one I would be willing to donate and mail to you. The only issue is the trigger no longer works it's open all the time it goes both directions but u would need a way to turn air on and off. Let me know if your interested. I looked and can't get parts for it otherwise I would fix it, it from the mid 80s
Real Tool Reviews my comment wasn't supposed to be anything negative on you. I know that you're a tool guy and you seem to take good care of your tools. Yes the I-R might have been old but it's been well taken care of. It just would have been interesting seeing the blaster spray work in a gun that hasn't been well taken care of. It would be like doing a seafoam test in a car. If it's been well taken care of and has had oil changes every 3k miles yeah you'll see some improvements. But it's more interesting to see how if would do in one where the owner does the changes like once every 10k miles, and there's build up around the rockers. So don't get me wrong it's a good review but it would have been nice to see the results on something that's almost on its was to the scrap bin.
+eric gatter I guess if I run across one on its last leg...but still functional, I may try it again. Thanks for the suggestion....I will see what I can do.
@real tool reviews that would be awesome. and I meant no disrespect to what you do. I love your channel, and thank you for using your time to do these reviews.
id be worried about the seals of the air tool, also the plastic parts and the rubber parts, you should not use wd40 or that product, their sds say they contain hydrocarbon solvents which could break up those parts over time, just stick to a good quality air tool oil
+YoSoyGus1 this is measuring a different type of torque....watch the last vid prior to this one (electronic torque testing) to see how it works. Thanks!
putting pb blaster in you gun wont hurt it!!! tell me how the best thing to use in an air tool is marvel mystery oil people have been puting it in guns since there were air guns!!
I could see getting a can and givin my air tools a good cleanin once a yr with this stuff....I oil my air tools every time I use them but getting the crud out that builds up could extend the life of the tool. Even if the power didn't increase that much it would be worth it.
