Does JAMES GUNN Think There Are Too Many Superhero Movies Being Made?!? 

I am tired of superhero movies

I’ve been tired of them , you say we like you speak for everyone

Nah I think we're tired of superhero movies.

Me personally just want them to slow down its hard to keep up with 5 superhero movies each year

I'm tired of the so called fans trying to destroy the genre. Just because something isn't made with you in mind specifically doesn't mean it's for nobody. I prefer liquor to beer I'm not trying to stop beer production with constant hate, and trolling.

I don’t think variety is a problem Marvel has especially when it comes to all the D+ shows, but the glutton of content might be daunting for more casual fans.

@@KentaObscuro Casual fan is an oxymoron.

Ur wrong phase 4 and 5 took many risks with tons of different genres and tones. Eternals is nothing like love and thunder which is nothing like loki which is nothing like mom which is nothing like ms marvel which is nothing like she hulk etc etc etc they did a bunch of different things

i think it just comes down to terrible films. you praise ragnarok like so many others, but i thought that movies was one of the first signs the mcu was in serious trouble. ragarok took a couple of major marvel storylines and sloppily meshed them into one film, all while being marred in comedy. when that film came out and was universally praised, i knew mcu was doomed. when fans praise dogshit, the studios will gladly feed you more of it. when the praise of dogshit drowns out the critics, does the critics even matter? but to be completely honest, the first signs of trouble was age of ultron. notice how marvel seems to be trying to get their shit together now that enough people have finally realized they have been shoveling dogshit down our throats for years.

@@saeres9288 You not liking Ragnarok is your failing. Neither of those are major stories and the movie is much better than both of them. "i knew mcu was doomed. " Oh really? You know something that isn't true? That's called a delusion.

The Flash just bombed hard after Gunn called it the greatest film of the genre 😂

​@@DABA2024 It's because of Ezra Miller shenanigans. If it's not for him, the movie would have done well.

@@duerf5826 i actually agree the movie was a huge turn off because of ezra

@@duerf5826 I think a little bit of it has to do with DC being an unreliable product too, at this point. I think the repeated shakeups have left audiences more confused than interested.

Kinda like how Jon saved Star Wars only for Kathleen to throw all of his hard work and good will away in the Madalorian season 3

That was funny...

Favreau is ruining SW.

@@kurtstergar1042nah you don’t believe that

@diosnelfrica590 then you haven't seen any current SW. Andor is OK but that's all.

I get the impression that Snyder really likes action films, Gunn actually likes comics and the characters associated

He really is. He does a nice job.

They ARE asking that. It's just that the only answer they can muster is "to make money". The answer needs to get better before the stories can get better.

​@therightclique Wrong. The answer is to push "THE MESSAGE."

And right now they aren't even making much money. AntMan lost money recently and they're going to struggle to bring in the usual audience for the coming releases. Even the drones who usually march to the theater for 'new marvel movie' are losing some interest.

@@mr.awesome6011 delusional.

A questioned that DC can be asked as well

Thomas Jane's The Punisher: Dirty Laundry Video is a good example of that

Movies are weird like that. I loved war of the worlds the first few times i saw it in my living room. Then randomly a decade later i saw it while on a plane and it was even more enthralling, despite it being like a 10 by 8 screen lol. Was amazing.

Very well said

Combine the two and you'll get "Everything Everywhere all at Clerks".

The worst thing about Marvel movies is the first half is usually good and the villains are always incredibly generic and forgettable, with a few exceptions of course. Compared to DC, well the good stuff like Nolan and that one Joker movie, the villains are the heart of the movies.

Which is why Ant-Man and The Wasp Quantumania was a complete blunder

They just making a save movie tbh

Guardians of the Galaxy 3 killed it. Great villain. Great plot. If other people don't like it, oh well. They ain't going to get it right everytime. But when they get it right, THEY GET IT RIGHT.

Problem with Marvel is they are making a DISNEY movie…it HAS to appeal to kids and not be too scary or get too dark, unlike DC being under WB. THAT is why the MCU “dominated” when in reality it just applied to a wider audience and sold more merch with kids

Good ones anyway.

@@maximusprime3459 He hasn't made one yet... Box office/financial success does NOT denote quality filmmaking. It just means sheeple consume...

​@@thisisnotachannelyou're a snyderturd tf you know about good movies

James Gunn wrote and directed Guardians of the Galaxy Trilogy which was pretty good! He's working on the new Superman: Legacy movie now for next year.

@@thisisnotachannel no one wants you around

Wouldn’t it be more interesting if they stopped making superhero’s. Take the money they would spend and make more movies, spanning more genres, and much more varied diverse stories, casts, and points of view. Whether it’s comedies, horrors, film noir, westerns, drama, blaxploitation, rom coms, historical, biopics, big stories and small stories?

@@totallybored5526 They already do make them, people don't pay for those.

The whole point of superheo movies is to give the simple people something to watch, they were never meant to be good.

Literally what Gunn said.

@@totallybored5526 I agree everyone wants to watch MI7 and Wick ,but (not saying these were cinematic masterpieces ) no one was interested in cocain bear, bullet train, reinfield just to name a few smaller films I watched and more importantly had fun

That cartoon sucks.

Across was worse than the original. Not even going to bother entertaining a never-ending Internet debate, but that movie has some serious issues. And with the modern day hype culture, it's not worth entertaining a discussion until the honeymoon phase dies down.

@@Naruxos07agreed. Moot point. You ain’t getting anywhere w this lack of an argument💀 movie had but mere minor flaws

@@Naruxos07you seem insufferable

Someone drank the Kool-Aid. Gunn is an empty suit and did nothing to earn being in control of the DCU...the man made one single good movie and its 2 sequels were made to set up other movies, made by other people. His push to try to make Peacekeeper popular shows he needs to be removed ASAP before he bankrupts Warner Brothers.

@@thomasjones4570 His one single good movie is Slither.

@@JustinLesamizScooby-Doo is a masterpiece

@@JustinLesamiz As much as I like Filion, that movie was terrible.

@@thomasjones4570 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No it’s too much

@Wacko u right then shoving it down throats then need to take a breather

Comic book especially marvel has been doing that since 2014 hence captain America. Winter soldier and guardian's of the galaxy both came out in 2014 and by the studio and were masterpieces

That 2019 Swamp Thing -series was great. Shame that it didn't get 2nd season

Marvel's secret of invasion is getting trashed by critics'. More race bait garbage.

Lmao tryna sneak in GOTG 3 & Star Lord into the conversation with those 3 masterpieces 🤣

That's why Winter Soldier is still the best Marvel film. It felt like a Spy thriller a bit.

@@PermanentHigh the action was pretty good too

That's not the reason why you root for those characters. You people are like addicts all you care about is information and move on to the next one People never care about the positive of things they cling to negative ideas

yeah i totally want to see teletubbies where the punisher is the main character, giving the kids some gymnastic lessons. using the known characters and trying to sugarcoat them so that they stand in for actual original and interesting characters and stories is so corporate thinking. its like why invent the terminator when we could have just used an evil iron man. why invent the godfather when we could just make penguin and black mask fight each other. its like when a known superstar actor us hired to be an ad about a thing he doesnt know jack shit about and pretends he does. superheroes are a genre. if you put superhero characters into adam sandler movies to just fall down the stairs and dress as transvestites you dont get it. if you dont actually want to use the character then dont use him.

I wouldnt mind it starting with justice league already in place then going back and dropping origins

I think there's a lot of gas left in the tank for the portrayals by those actors but in terms of the material itself? Eehhhh.... We're talking about a series where one of the foundational pieces (Man of Steel) features a Superman who lets his own Dad die because his Dad was scared people wouldn't accept him. Then does absolutely nothing with that to bring the character back around to being.. y'know.. Superman. Which sucks because they somehow managed to have Henry f@$king Cavill in the role and couldn't figure out that Cavill's real life shy, down-to-earth, nice guy who builds his own PCs and misses the call telling him he got the role for World of Warcraft vibe despite being built like a friggin comic book superhero is *entirely what Superman is actually about*

I'm just happy he's there now. Imagine how many cool things we're gonna get under his (and Safran's) stewardship.

Honest to god I just wished WB worked on MOS2 and build up the rest properly instead of rushing to compete with Marvel when it already was a losing battle. Farewell to DCEU :(

@@TaylorTrask yeh I guess the only thing we can do is be optimistic for the future. Going forward I won't be as invested in any comic book franchise like I was when I was 12. It's been 10 years I gotta let that stuff go. I'll still watch it of course but will try not to care as much

Henry Cavill isn't Superman. People need o stop pitching the video game Injustice Superman to the general audiences. We don't like that. That was the direction they were going and we didn't like it

Yeah at this point I'm more so looking forward to seeing what James has cooked up for DC than whatever Marvel is putting out. I'll still watch the shows, but I'm really not looking forward to the new Captain Marvel movie after how well Guardians 3 was.

In my opinion Thor's story has always been consistent up until love and thunder. You can tell Tiaka was not interested in the movie what so ever but I remember when Chris Hemsworth back in the day said "taika doesn't come back I won't either".

Joker also

@@slorr55 That's like comparing filet mignon to a hot dog.

It barely counts as a superhero movie. Only due to the source material from which its characters came.

​@slorr55 Joker isn't a super hero.

@@slorr55 Joker was a rip off of Taxi Driver/ all Scorsese films.Its even set in the 70's!

Very well said.

no

I agree but I would also like more movies in those genres WITHOUT superheroes still.

@@samfilmkid you have that now i guess

Im tired of dickjokes.

Problem with that kind of storytelling is that anyone that went in for a Batman movie is pissed that Batman isn't in it, and anyone that went in for a horror movie is pissed that Batman is in it. You can't do Schindler's List and then suddenly have Magneto start tearing apart nazis in the third act. Even if the tone isn't off, it's just going to be so jarring that it'd ruin the film if you're not expecting it going in. But if you are expecting it, the rest of the film will be jarring for the abscence of xmen.

@@GrandHighGamer tbh it would be a cool way to introduce batman at the start of the movie and a good way to start someones villlain origin story so that we really connect with the villain

spawn before his 11pm coffee.

Nice idea... for a terrible B-movie. Also, ''could be fun'' is why superhero movies started to turn to shit in the MCU, DCEU and elsewhere. Back in the day we had higher standards than ''fun''. Imagine if Raimi and Nolan were trying to do Spider-Man and Batman Begins with that attitude instead of treating them like real cinema.

This is basically the idea for the Spawn Movie that Todd Mcfarlane's been saying he's trying to make.

I'm still trying to figure out how we don't have this for the modern age? Spawn too.

yep who thought it was a good idea to cram the stories of The Dark Knight Returns, a JL prequel, and The Death of Superman in just movie 2? MOVIE FUCKING 2? Those creative decisions alone derailed the entire universe. Yet these days there are people defending Snyder's decision to kill off Superman as it was intended to create the Justice League. There are many stories that can unite the League WITHOUT killing the main hero of the universe

@@rbleaks818 I agree 100%

@@rbleaks818that’s Warner brothers. Zack was kinda put in that situation. He wanted to do man of steel 2 first but the studio wanted more to catch up to marvel. Kinda like the Spider-Man 3 problem.

@@davidricardez639 BvS was entirely Snyders idea. He got the free rein to do w/e and that backfired HARD

Don't disrepect zack g the directors cut of justice leagu3 was amazing, zack the goat

It was only barely a spy thriller. Just more of one than the previous movie.

​@@JustinLesamizIt was still enough to make it the best Marvel movies to date

That movie was horribly bland too. I think Logan is probably the only of the bunch that will stand the test of time, the rest is garbage.

The genre was already horribly redundant before Endgame. Its for children and immature/tasteless adults.

​@Blurgle so why are you here??😂😂😂

@@blurgle9185 Write better if you want to pretend to have this above it all sophisticated view on the state of modern narrative.

Or The Flash or Shazam or Black Adam....

Or The Batman A way too long, a way too pretentious and way too overdone of s copycat film The Batman was an unnecessary film to be made, and the box office receipts show that

@@Christian_Ada1 The Batman is the best DC movie of the last 10 years. It doesn't fit that at all. Most post-Endgame MCU movies do though, same with a hell of a lot of the DCEU ones.

@@daveclark8337 The Flash was a lot of fun.

Or Thor.

I liked Legion. The way they conceptualized mind powers should be implemented in the movies X-Men.

He's not wrong, though. I know people may disagree with me, but I think the Marvel projects that are good Post-Endgame work because they feel like projects people wanted to make, like Gotg Vol. 3. The ones that either flopped or are not well received by critics and fans tend to be the ones that the studio forced someone to make rather than letting the director make the movie THEY wanted (cough Multiverse of Madness cough) and I think that's where the laziness Gunn is talking about comes in. When you start micromanaging a film and hire people who don't care, that's where you start loosing your audience. If Marvel wants to prove they still have what it takes, they're going to need to trust the people they hire more.

To many doesn’t mean more will have no poison.

@@alexdawson4571 marvel force all the directors to make the film they want. It’s been very well documented that there is a plan and the directors must stick to it.

@@Whatwhatwhat1135 i feel like the main reason they’re doing that is because a bunch of movies are coming out earlier then the follow up films, like doctor strange coming out after no way home

@@Real_DvD makes no sense

Hes gonna keep the Peacemaker folks and folks from The Suicide Squad (2021)

@@rbleaks818 idk if his bosses are gonna be kill with it. Clearly the majority just want it gone

If anything, The Flash's BO proves his decision to reboot is right. People just don't care for the old iteration of DCEU characters any more.

​@@nikunjdixit1175That'll be Ezra. He should have been recast. No argument.

@@dcmastermindfirst9418 more then recast they clearly should have never released the flash and took a tax right off. It has hurt the brand and lost tons of money

@@patricktownsend5402 not everyday people though. But you can apply it to the same principle of TV show about cops/detectives or medical dramas

Idk wtf u just sayin

@@GregKhar-NU-Metalhead2000 people don’t complain about other genres or types of films in the same way.

James Gunn will make things worse with his pedo-verse. His movie are meh and nothing special and he relies on shit comedy. He's going to ruin DC even more plus I can't support a man who makes jokes about raping and touching little boys and joining pedo themed parties is disgusting.

I’d like to add that I don’t think Hollywood thinks very highly of the “domestic audience” when it comes to cineplex films, either. That’s been apparent for about twenty years, easy.

This just isn’t true at all. We’ve had some of the best shows ever in the 2010s and 2020s. What a bizarre statement.

@@YourBlackLocal The truth shouldn't upset you.

​@YourBlackLocal You are right. There have been a lot of great shows/movies in the last 15 years but there has also been a lot of really bad stuff too. I think it is pretty much always like that we are just getting way more content than ever before

@@BishopWalters12 I think you should take your own advice. If you think you’re saying that the years Breaking Bad, Succesion, Barry, Atlanta and so many more is the worst era for shows. Maybe watch something other than blockbusters.

​@@BishopWalters12you clearly have no clue what you are talking about lol.

We hope.

There is an asterix to all of the points above. The movie needs to be good. The films can have all the great intentions with themes and character, but if the film isn't good, then its pointless. People didn't like the way Snyder executed those themes. At the end of the day, these are movies. They have to be entertaining. Snyder's movies were giant bores to huge chunks of the audience. You can't spend that much money on movies that bore huge chunks of the audience and then cry about the fact that they aren't appreciated.

People simply disliked his dark and gloomy nihilistic take on the DC characters. After marvel people expected bright and optimistic stories. DC simply didn't deliver that.

The difference is his movies have the most boring and dour characters and often nonsensical plots

Ppl dont like toilet movies shocker 🤣

Just saw it, movie was fantastic. IDK if "one of the best" ever but certainly better than any movie in Snyders whole run

He could hate it but saying so is career suicide in Hollywood. You must ALWAYS tow the line and go along with the agenda and party line.

@@aamerkastoff1447 I agree, but he wasn’t hyping Shazam 2 like he was the Flash. It seems like if he doesn’t like it, he just won’t say anything.

The Flash was a mess from start to finish. But then again they have a criminal and well documented groomer as the lead, its had three directors, been getting redone for five years, had six writers, and most the cast want to be a million miles away from the criminal lead. Everyone that kept up Knows they were trying to use "multiverse" as an excuse for race changing, sex changing, sexual orientation changing, religion changing, ideology changing, etc. etc. etc. to push "The Message" and now that Warner has lost billions doing just that (much like Disney, Bud Light, target, etc. ad nauseam) they tried to remove as much as possible of the original woke crap and they tried to do it in with to little time and way to late. There isn't a major studio not suffering the fallout of agenda laden content costing them billions and most are still trying to push due to the people in control having enough f**k you money to not care if they bankrupt the company. Most these companies are publicly traded so its the normies that are losing all their investment money while the agenda pushers will be fine. I'm just done pretending all these crap movies are crap for any other reason than he truth; Woke, leftist, agenda laden crap that the vast majority of people, being rational and moral, are sick of having shoved on them. Gunn is just another of the same old same old and I have no doubt this comment will age exceptionally well.

That was a long list of assumptions and reaches, almost impressive. Look up the definition of “product” for me and come back

U are reaching 🤣

He made them more money than they paid him 😂

What do you mean bro? 90s films were the same

Yes! stop bringing back other people nostalgia and bring back my nostalgia.

@@gammerguy1995bring back my toxic masculine men so I can fantasize about as I touch myself at night

@@josepablodeleon6073 We didn't cycle through hundreds of super heroes and then start mashing them up and going full social justice warrior. You weren't there, or you're a comic fixated adult.

@@gammerguy1995 The last great era of the theater. Can't see the problem here. Unfortunately Weinstein made great movies.

Yeah, but "Evil Superman" is becoming a tired trope, which is why I'm excited for him to make Superman: Legacy.

That's exactly the attitude that Gunnis talking against. The evil superhero trope is also getting tired. We already have several iterations of 'evil superman'.

@@nikunjdixit1175 you obviously don’t know all the ideas that were proposed for the Brightburn series. There were supposed to be more characters other than just ‘superman’

Evil superman is toilet

Shut up

That doesn't make any sense

Yeah, but by the final episode it became the same old formula

@@josepablodeleon6073no it didn’t

Name a single superhero movie with “woke bs” that isn’t captain marvel.

​​@@YourBlackLocalmovies: doctor strange 2 , black panther , wakanda forever , eternals , thor love and thunder , Shows: umbrella academy , she Hulk, ms Marvel

@@Animodeus and now name something woke from each one

​@Asmodeus so anything with. Minority lead, or to many minorities in it gotcha

Ok Dr strange : the main character becomes the side charector, and being usless most of time , and the main villian is defeated by a young girl that introduced in that same movie ( instead of learning new power through hardwork , she becomes powerful just believing in herself ) just like most generic strong female character 2. Black panther : showing white people as bad , the whole high class millitary people are woman , 3.wakanda forever : same , showing white people as bad , pusing there aganda, like fight between white vs black and Hispanics , indroducing a black female version of a alredy established white character , with same " strong female character problem" like she is already so intelligent and made a iron suit in high school , instead of hard work , it's always belive in yourself 4.eternals : forced LGBTQ , 5. Love and thunder : forced LGBTQ , instead of calling valkery queen they call her king , forced woman empowerment, calling the make charector as a joke , I think i don't need to talk about the shows

Transformers isn’t a super hero movie…..

Yup Anthony Mackie did say that we are making movies for China and for 16 year olds I am already in nearing my late 40s and there’s just way too many comic book films and not just that they’re tying all the comic book films to each other so it’s time the hands of writers and directors of making their own film and making it there then work on it because now they have to be careful what a right to not make a mess of the next film best titan if that makes any sense

It is incredibly depressing that there don't seem to be many movies made for a mainstream adult audience, that is to say movies made for people with more lived experience than, say a early twenty-something kid.

@@maluse227 there are more original movies made today than any other time in history, you just don’t watch any of them. And that’s why they fail.

@@Theblackout292 they fail bc of the countless of superhero films, remakes, sequels or diversity/lgtbq nonsense.

Not necessarily. The mcu committee was made of top notch comic writers who knew the characters inside an out and were responsible for the shitty early thor movies and iron man 2

There literally hasn’t ever been a single “masculinity is toxic” superhero movie ever made. Stop being so sensitive. It’s ok for a female superhero to fight against a male villain without it being a personal attack on you. Only an absolute snowflake can’t tell the difference between “toxic masculinity is bad” and “masculinity is bad.”

Please name one.

@@danieljacobson1 she-hulk

@@danieljacobson1 Being obtuse must be your superpower.

@@danieljacobson1 Supergirl, Batwoman, Captain Marvel and even The Boys 3rd season got way more heavy handed.

P.S. spiderverse is a great genre bending film. though Idk why peeps were skeptical of it back when it was announced cause if you are going through the effort of making it look great, you'll put forth the effort to make a good story. its like stop motion, theres almost no bad stop motion films

Imagine liking race swaps! 😂basically admitting " hi we are non white ppl,but bcs white ppl are so smart at creating character (unlike us),we're gonna tokenize these character to look like us"