Does YT's "Cheap" Bike Signal Industry Changes? 

Unfortunetly there's a lot of truth there! Reguardless of the why, I hope they start making more positive changes!

Supply and Demand baby. It's the same for literally everything.

Exactly, everyone complains that these companies are greedy, yet in the end its the consumers that are the cause. Santa Cruz and Yeti started this trend. Over hyped and priced, boutique boushy trinkets. (I rode both brands at demo days, nothing special about these bikes.) Yet idiots with poor money management skills bought them up like hot cakes. I knew shortly after brands like trek and specialized where to follow with these outrageous pricing, and sooner then later the value brands like Gaint would follow suit. Now that money is scarce due to the worldwide ressession, bike companies have to slash prices and build value bikes again if they want to keep their company going. Hopefully we get back to the days when 4 to 5 grand US buys a top of the line bike not this over 10 grand crap.

Last year I bought a $5000+ Megatower and it's absolutely awesome👍🏿👍🏿 I also been riding MTB for almost 30yrs but if I was a two or three year novice and looking for a brand new bike this new YT Capra would be the type of bike that I would want to ride just because of the price and the specs build into it.

@@PeterCPRail8748 Just got my first Yeti (SB150) for 25% off. Would never buy it a full price lol

You can buy a nice used motorcycle for that money.

I bought my capra around 2018/2019. I think that was the sweet spot for value for money.

@@fivespeed3026you can buy a beater car for that money. A motorcycle doesn’t fill the same niche…

@@fivespeed3026 you can buy a used motorcycle for 100 if you want What's your point?

Couldn't agree more! Also a tall guy...... how tall are you and how is the fit?

Thanks so much - I've really enjoyed making videos about it! It's stuff I talk about all the time and I thought, why not make videos about it!

Couldn’t agree more - this is really compelling content. Two of my favourite things, chatting about bikes and economics/markets.

Nothing is going to change when you are still getting mugs with more money than sense, forking out 8500+ on a bike you have to pedal. Talk with your wallets and they might get the message.

That's the crazy thing with new bike prices. I'm also cross shopping enduro bikes with dual sport motos for scratching the outdoor adventure itch lol

@@Dave435l Best thing I did was buy the Honda, it's the CRF300 Rally, it's not a big beast but it's light and easy to control. I only passed my bike test 4 years ago, I think it was a bit of a mid life crisis thing, so didn't want anything too big 😀 I had the shop upgrade the rear shock for something a bit more robust, I then stuck a load of paniers on it, packed a solo tent and camping equipment and in April I did the 7 hour journey from my house to Scotland. I was only aiming for about a week up there but ended up doing nearly 2, I just went and visited all the sights, I camped in the wild as well as a few Airbnb's and managed to get on a 2 day "Learn to off road on your motorcycle" course which I saw advertised in a small shop. I might have got the bug for it as I'm thinking of doing Scandinavia solo in the Summer, Up the coast of Norway to the Artic Circle, then into Finland before coming down the coast of Sweden, I had a friend do the trip about 10 years ago, so the advice is there...AS for my MTB the Canyon Spectral I have is the 2015 model and it hasn't put a foot wrong, every now and again I'll upgrade something but it still goes through everything I've thrown at it over the years, so it'll totally do for another season, but I'll definitely pull the trigger on a new bike, maybe at the end of the year or early 2024.

@@David-bw7is Meh it's only a grand, not worth waiting years for just to save a few quid

@Brown_Tiger_Mtb'er I'm on the wrong side of 50 now, raced BMX back in the 80s then moved onto MTBs in the early 90s purely as a hobby, my GT Avalanche cost me £499 back then 😀 Had various bikes over the years, mainly SCOTTs but grabbed a Canyon Spectral back in 2015, it's a hell of a bike and never put a wheel wrong, I was going to upgrade it to a similar model but saw that the price had more than doubled over the years, and gone up by nearly a £1000 in 2 yrs, so decided it only gets used on weekends so it can last another year and decided to blow the cash on the Honda instead, best decision I've made in a long time, gave me a freedom you just can't get in a car...easier on the knees as well 😋

@Brown_Tiger_Mtb'er you "can" ride an ebike to work Motorbikes are a totally separate thing, might aswell start talking about quads and cars at that point

I think you're right man - but for some people the price savings is worth it.

@@DailyMTBRider ye, least for me I feel like it’d save me spending more on a nicer shock, although I’m curious about that fork. Regardless wouldn’t buy new theres a current gen chilcotin in my area for $2200 with xo1 and rockshox ultimate suspension taunting me rn 😭

Which core 2? I see an NX and GX onntheir website.

I’m looking at that same bike right now and am undecided for months on what to buy how does it perform

$2250 now according to his new video!

Dunno if you're interested but check out commencal bikes, you can get some super sick aluminum bikes in the same price range as the status 160......I got a Meta sx (160/170mm mullet bike) for $3200 delivered.

@@doug148877 already pulled the trigger on the status. Wanted something different as I see lots of commencal

I'm telling you - bike prices re dropping like crazy and will continue to!

it's not, yt has been selling bikes in the mid $2k range for years, and same with their competitors commencal and canyon, if anything they've got more expensive than a couple years ago

It’s 2200 now

1999€ in Europe, they have a sale currently. If 3k was a bit much 2k seems like a steal.

Seriously have you not noticed the price of everything has increased? 3k is not a lot in the world of mtb

@@Lee-ic2yn Sure but it shouldn't be that way. Bicycle prices are dramatically inflated compared to technology in other areas. You've got full suspension mountain bikes costing more than brand new motorcycles and it is NOT because there is 'more advanced tech' in the bikes :) People pay it and so they charge it because they can. Road bikes have been even worse offenders in this regard because the typical roadie client was often some wealthy banker etc. The value ain't there.

I got my jeffsy last year for my 40th birthday. I love it I just did not like the California tax applied to it. I might sell it for the capra 2.

Only problem with used is you have no idea whats happened to them before hand

Haha yes - that is very much what I meant!

Thanks Ben - as far are warrenties, I've personally never had a problem with a bike that needed me to be the original owner. When I buy used, I ask the original owner if they'll vouch for me if anything happens (which I've down twice) and in one case, I didn't need to contact the OG owner. All that to say, I don't think it's as much as a need as bikes have gotten really well built. Just my 2 cents though.

I disagree, hard tails are much harder to sell so just go with the best full suspension you can afford and learn how to handle it.

@@DailyMTBRider good to hear! Thanks!

Servicing suspension cost hundreds per front and rear, and a good cassette is 3-400$. Plus most need a tune up. So add 1000$ to that. Doesn't sound like so much a value

@@matthewserna7475 Lol... Why not 1000 quid cassette. Of course servicing can cost hundreds but also can cost 300... 150 cassette and if you cant change cables and tune bike for yourself its time to learn that as its not a rocket science lol. Otherwise you buy new bike and year later you gonna pay as you said 1000 on the top of that. THIS doesnt sound like so much value isnt xD?

Not really. Minmum 3k for a bike with peddles is expensive regardless of how you look at things.

Sorry, there is a huuuuuge difference between $3k and $300. And I'm saying $300 as a higher price point for walmart bikes.

Why is that insane? If you are selling a bike with xx1 build, carbon wheelset etc then of course it will be $$$, the drivetrain alone is around 2 grand.

@@CalgaryDynastar LOL because a used mtb for $7'000 is just ridiculous for so many reasons one of which is IT'S JUST A BIKE but you can have your opinion and I can have mine ( in theory )..

@@skippes_view but if the bike was originally 12k then 7k for depreciation makes sense. Not like a truck that is worth 100k new is worth 30k in 3 years because it’s used. They’re worth what people will pay I guess. I picked up an 8k bike for 6400 4 seasons ago and I’m still riding it, some people would say it’s too much to spend but I ride everyday during the season. People can say it’s too much, crazy etc but the value is there for good bikes and good components if you are a serious rider and it’s your passion. If you ride 10 times a season then it would impossible to justify. To each their own.

Do you have a link to that offer?

My thoughts exactly, why I snatched one up as soon as I could.

It's still not sold out in the EU though.

@@Echoes- doch bei mir schon. Wenn ich auf des Bike gehe steht da existiert nicht. Lg

@@lakaldrak They are sitting in the "Outlet" after the black week, they have been there for 2 months, but now "only" discounted -2000 euro.

@@Echoes- uncaged 6 yes , uncaged 9 No 😉👍. I talked about the 9 With the ölins suspension.