Don't make the same mistake I did by buying a used Intel Mac. 

Unless you need 1.5GB Ram 😂😂😂 - the Intel Mac Pro is the only Mac that can handle this... but I am not a fanboy.

Mac itself is a outdated platform.

As a fan of the Intel machines I’ll still be buying plenty to review lol

Hahaha me too

@@montaguebarnabasltd”fan” no pun intended lol XD

@@montaguebarnabasltd I bought an early 2015 retina 13-inch macbook pro (MacBookPro12,1) and its a great macOS and Windows machine, though I do use Windows more often than macOS.

Collector’s items.

If they’re rescued, then of course use em! Sounds good

i have a 2013 13 pro a 11 unch 2014 air a mac mini 2012 and a imac 2010 21.5 inch and im not upgrading! i like my intel macs! intel macs have 1 huge upside to the m-series ones... native windows support via bootcamp!

2014/15 rMBP is a very solid machine as a daily driver, especially if you upgrade to NVMe storage and use OCLP to run macOS Monterey. Not sure about the 2015, but my 2014's speakers are trash though. Very tinny sounding. My previous 2011 model had much better speakers. Not a deal breaker for me, as everything else functions very well.

Wow I just upgraded from a 2012 to a 2015 as well. 15 inch. I paid $150 and it was eligible for a free battery replacement from Apple under their exploding battery program lol

They are still very usable indeed, really like way the Pro Retina 15” (2015) and Air 13” (2017) remain relevant today. + have always liked the look and feel of the two, last to come in the true silver OG macbook design. Hope you’ll be able to put your Retina 15” to good use for a long time! :-)

You've definitely got the right idea.

Any reliability problems with the keyboard? That’s what worries me the most 🥲

@@joshuepico75those keyboards were awful

@@joshuepico75 I havent had any issues with the keyboard. I also a 12 inch 2017 MacBook too with no issues.

@@makaveli559m The MacBook 12" had a new keyboard, but the problems seemed to have been solved in the last model in 2017. It works fine for me too, just not very powerful.

I’ve spotted a couple of videos popping up on YT where people have found out how to replace SSD’s/memory on M1 MacBook Air. There’s even a couple of articles dating back to 2020 saying that techs in China have been able to do it too. I guess at some point in the (near?) future we will start seeing this service being offered as tools and techniques are created to make the upgrades more ‘accessible’.

@@wiggleman12345 Yeah, I've also become aware of this. I have a 512gb model so I'm not too worried about needing more storage, but if the price is right for this type of storage replacement service, I'll certainly be in line for it in the future.

Apple will find a way to kill that.

@@wiggleman12345upgraders are in China with access to the chips and tech resources. Not a job you get done in Buffalo, NY or Vancouver

nem fudendo que te achei aqui

@@rswierczynski HAHAHAHAHAH muito bom!!!

@@rswierczynski Google sabe de tuuuudo... tive que responder e colocar outra perspectiva, a realidade entre países é totalmente diferente.

I bought late 2015 27” 5K month ago and it’s amazing. I have Mac Mini M1 for work and bought this iMac because of its amazing screen and I use it for internet browsing, discord, media consuming. You can’t buy a 5K monitor for this price and you get a whole computer!! IMO they are great value for money, because of that screen and with OCLP you can install Sonoma on them without problem. They are plenty powerful for everyday task, because of 4core CPUs.

I’ve owned a lot of computers over the last 30 years. I’ve built them and bought them new and used. My favorite machine so far is the M1 24” iMac. I thought the 24” display would be a downgrade from my previous 27” setup but I really don’t even notice the smaller size after adjusting the display settings a little bit. I do hope they offer a “Pro” iMac in the future with more Ram options and more GPU cores, but he 16 GB M1 is doing the job pretty well for now.

Old Intel Macs definitely have their uses still. If you think you'd use it daily, and it's a good deal, you might as well buy

I had one of the plastic first intel MacBooks and once it reached the Snow Leopard ceiling I flipped it to Linux Mint for a while. I bought a new Lenovo a while later and sold the MB for parts.

you can probably get a 2019/2020 dell latitude for a similar price

Heck, even PowerPC macs​@@montaguebarnabasltd

Hey, thanks for watching! 16GB is objectively better than 8 of course, but I’d rather have a base M1 in almost every case. I think the M1 could last you close to a decade from now.

I had i9/16gb/1TB 2019 MacBook Pro and sold it month ago and bought base model Mac Mini m1 8gb/256gb and it’s a lot faster and 8gb works better than 16gb on Intel Mac. MacOS compress ram in very good way on 8gb M devices and m1 machines have fast ssd discs so swap memory works really fast.

Ideally it depends on what work you're gonna do on it, is it RAM intensive ??

Did you watch the full video..?

Why do you buy "constantly new stuff"? I am building my own PCs since the 90s and learned this: as a gamer, the only thing you more or less regularly upgrade is the graphic card, and even that wasn't a topic any more in recent years when games started to align to the performance of current gen gaming consoles by design. These days, you can run any game with a AMD 5700 or an NVIDIA 1070. But eventually Macs are nothing you use for gaming. When upgrading my PC, I noticed that the most benefit over the years originate in switching from HDDs to SSDs and in switching from 8 GB RAM to 16 GB RAM, which I run on all my machines and never saw anything justifying to upgrade RAM further. I also learned that my needs are met by 1 TB of permanent storage. So that is a config I ran for years on a hackintosh: 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD. I also learned that doing a major upgrade of the CPU is essentially a complete rebuild of the PC interior: you need a new motherboard, new (as faster) RAM, a more powerful energy supply and a better CPU cooler. You can keep the chassis, its fans and the permanent storage unless you want to benefit from faster access speed like PCI-E instead of SATA. I ran a hackintosh since macOS Sierra but bought my first Apple computer (since the Apple IIe) when Apple moved to Apple Silicon. That machine, a mini M1, configured based on the parameters established above from experience, supports my work (Software development) for more than three years now and there is no need to upgrade anything. I will run this until there are no macOS updates anymore for it. And there is still no pressure to ask for more RAM than 16 GB or more permanent storage but 1 TB. And with those parameters Apple Silicon Macs are still competitive in pricing. Despite Apples unreasonably looking upgrade price tags.

buddy, the computers you're talking about are 12 years old at this point. Most modern apps don't work on them anymore and they are starting to get to an age where the capacitors will fail at one point - and good luck repairing that on your own. Not even speaking about recent macOS versions, which you can get with OpenCore, but will run "suboptimal" to say the least with the natural limitations of memory swap (SSD even in RAID will be too slow) and the hard capped 16 GBs of RAM. So for anything more than mail and typing documents these will not make you happy.

A 2017 MacBook Pro is 7 years old. No one is talking about “constantly buying new stuff” we are talking about the fact if you buy a 7+ year old laptop it’s not a great deal and probably at end of life. I just got my M3 Pro MacBook Pro which was an upgrade from the 2019 MacBook Pro. I got 5 years out of it and probably won’t upgrade the M3 Pro for another 5 years. Two laptops in ten years isn’t “constantly buying new stuff”

@@olafschluter706 Wouldn't be that much of an issue if Apple Silicon Macs supported eGPUs over Thunderbolt like they used to. Raspberry Pi and plenty of ARM systems support PCIE GPUs, I don''t get why that can't be any different with Apple's current hardware. Not even the new Mac Pros using Apple Silicon support GPUs.

Ima start doing that

No one is going to stab you in a cafe to steal your laptop. I don't even think stealing something of such low value in a public place, full of people and full of cameras. Thinking logically, he wouldn't even be able to run out of the place with something that size. You need to be less hysterical. Poor people shouldn't have this kind of worry, since the criminal steals something to make a profit.

The fast writes are because the software uses the SSD almost like extra ram. There’s a lot of data quickly written and erased because of this. It would help a little bit, but not a lot I think.

They have brilliant displays. I can’t help but think it’s a bit risky spending a lot of money on something that was the last of its generation though…

Really appreciate the comments 💚💙

I can't think of a better desktop replacement Mac,, you can connect up to 4 monitors, works with no hiccups

Yeah all of the Macs have their needs, depending on the pricepoint. I think you’ve got the right idea in buying Apple Silicon as your main machine though!

Thank you. For my next video I’ve started using a new noise suppression plugin.. if that doesn’t work I’ll definitely go with that one!

I agree in the main message, but if you can buy e.g. a 2019 16" with good specication to a very cheap price, it does not need to be a poor choice. But the 2016-2018 MBP should be avoided at all cost 🙂

@@rolf7135 Definitely agree, especially with your second comment

Keep in mind those precise models have faulty design which can blow up SSD at some point due to faulty controller.

I had the same argument and almost went ahead to buy one of the 'META' boxed warehouse ones from iPowerResale. My friend is even in the US right now, so I could have had it shipped to him and then got it here. But he himself advised me to just use virtualisation. I have a Parallels license and reports say that running Windows in macOS on a hypervisor is an optimal experience with Apple Silicon. It is no mystery that bootcamp drivers can be flakey and are not going to last. Apple is not going to provide Windows 11/12 BC drivers, as they are not supporting the platform anymore. In all honesty it would be a very niche investment, that could turn out a waste

@@darksol544small correction: it's not the controller, the 1.8V and 2.5V lines like to short out on that machine. The controller sits inside the T2 chip and is fine, the NANDs themselves do the "rm -rf /"

@@christopherthake8701this. Having a machine for another 18 months or so when W10 support runs out is just not worth it. I'd rather buy a new M1 machine and spend the rest on a used Windows machine, they fall in price A LOT after just a few months.

@@christopherthake8701 Everything can be a good or bad investment, it could even be a bad investment for me to spend $4,000 on an M1 Pro 16" with 32GB RAM & 4TB SSD, not to mention the financial burden that would put on me and have to worry that it never gets stolen due to it's extremely high value. The main reason the M series macbooks are always going to be extremely expensive for me is because i need a lot of storage and if i wanted an M1 to last for a few years without having to make file sacrifices then it would have to be 4TB because even 1TB is base model storage to me. I'm not using the Windows partition for gaming or extremely intensive work only a few windows only softwares which work perfectly fine on my 2009 17" MacBook.

I really appreciate that! Thank you. Don’t worry, it’s not changing :,))

You make good points. It’s not fair to say that Intel or apple silicon are irrelevant. They both have their uses, and will continue to do so. I do feel like my Mac Pro is a little redundant now I’ve upgraded, though.

@@montaguebarnabasltd I can play Deus Ex: Mankind Divided on my Mac Studio (on which it runs REALLY WELL), and Deus Ex: Human Revolution, the prior game, on my 2013 trashcan Mac Pro. ;) I was disappointed when Eidos and Square Enix did nothing to update Human Revolution to 64-bit for its tenth birthday. Human Revolution is my third-favourite game of all time (between Life is Strange at #3 and Fallout: New Vegas at #1), but since it's 32-bit, you can't play it on 10.15 Catalina and up. :( I'm also genuinely angry at Valve for not updating the Mac versions of the Half-Life and Portal games to 64-bit. They knew Catalina would drop 32-bit app support, and they've had over four damn years at this point. To me, this isn't a matter of profitability for Valve; this is a matter of respecting their players and allowing them to keep playing the games they paid for. Plenty of people view Valve as apathetic, no longer caring about game development now that they have a monopoly over PC game distribution, and Valve neglecting the Mac versions of their flagship games is another aspect of this carelessness.

@@QUANTUMJOKER to be honest, i think we should question why apple binned 32 bit support, too. Yes, it’s been far too long for valve to leave games unsupported on 64 bit, but I guess it goes both ways. I like your taste in games!

@@montaguebarnabasltd Thank you! My other top ten games, in no particular order, are Hollow Knight, Hades, Sleeping Dogs, Dishonored, Myst, SimEarth and The Last of Us.

Catalina still has 32bit , you have to ramble the feature in terminal

You use it in bootcamp? Not in MacOS?

@@Lukas-yw2mn dual boot

@@Lukas-yw2mn for context i have a 2019 Macbook Pro 16” Core i9 & 5300m 16GB 512 ssd

@@svntana700 well that’s a lot more powerful than mine! So I feel that, I probably wouldn’t upgrade then either.

@@Lukas-yw2mn what are you running?

Can’t blame you. :)

Thank you. At the end of the day, everyone has their own uses for their own machine. This was just my take

M1 Macs have Linux support through Asahi. Not everything works yet, but most of it. You can also buy Mac parts from Apple if you want to (depending on region), so it's not all doom and gloom.

" I've not heard of any security issues". Lucky you if you can afford not to care about, as there are plenty for any macOS prior to the most recent version - and they are all publicly known. I am running company business on my Apple machines and could get fired if some damage happens due to security incidents. Being in the IT security business as a professional I can't stress enough the importance of running the most recent OS software. If you can afford to do not care, your choice. But I discourage that. People running outdated OS on their machines aren't putting themselves to risk only: captured machines are most likely used to launch attacks on more machines, making it a threat to everybody.

@@olafschluter706 I wasn't speaking about IT pros or professional users. Can you share any data you have on Macs being used to 'attack' other computers or servers. That's a Windows and to a lessor degree a Linux issue. The average home user isn't going to face the kinds of issues a business would. In many cases they are primarily using computers for streaming, browsing the web, doing basic office work and more and buying the latest Macbook is in my mind, silly if the planned use is what I noted. I used OCLP and have updated my Mabooks to Ventura and Sonoma. However I have no desire to argue with a 'IT' professional.

security is not even a problem for the regular user. The support policies of major companies only develop for recent macOS versions. So if you want to get MS Office for example - too bad, only last 3 macOS's supported. And you have to be VERY careful with OpenCore as it can brick the SSD controller and SPI ROM during installation when misconfigured! Seen it happen already on some machines.

my friend did that too.... he future proofed it by buying the max Intel mbp in 2020. lol.... value went down real quick.

Absolutely right

@@montaguebarnabasltd This is the nonsense sending great machines into landfill. My daily driver is a 2012 iMac running 32 GB of RAM and this is much more capacity than 99% of people need. A computer that is 15 years old runs Office and RU-vid, Final Cut Pro. At the time, Apple said: "This Mac is a supercomputer." Now, apparently, the same supercomputer is only useful for "light web browsing"??? People's needs have barely increased - that has shifted to mobile devices and our primary portable computer is a phone - not a laptop. A car from 2010 is still good today as it was then and there are precious few use cases outside of Apple filling the operating system with superfluous graphics-intensive user interface guff (video backgrounds!) that has changed. There has been no computational paradigm shift to this point and only the coming of on-device large language models necessitates jump. Anybody who switched before this year got ripped off because the new AI integrations - which is that shift - will require M4.

@@ikemreactsregrettably don’t have time for a long reply. Would just like to say I’ve used FCP on 2012 Macs, and it was NOT a useable experience for anyone serious about video. Your opinion is valid, though.

Only thing that concerns me is security updates. I have a 2015 MBP that I’m hanging on to until it’s unsupported. It’s still very functional if not a bit draggy compared to my M2 Ultra. Not much good having a computer that’s not getting security updates if it’s going on the internet.

@@JimAllen-Persona you can run Sonoma with Open Core Legacy Patcher very good on a 2015 MBP and than you will get all security updates.

Parallels performance is good for virtualisation. Probably better than bootcamp!

I don’t really see why anyone would to do that without virtualisation

@@montaguebarnabasltd because when you virtualize something you still have the overhead of both Operating Systems running simultaneously, and when you run on bare metal... you don't (have to share ram, gpu, cpu cores).

@@ajplays-gamesandmusic4568 I’m aware, but M1 performs better virtualised than Intel can running natively.

I have never heard of that being a big issue, but I can understand it would sway your preference considering it seems to have happened a lot to you!

Yes it looks like I dimmed my display, but it is DEAD. M1 and M2. It reminds me of the blue screen of death on Windows XP. Computer unresponsive until restart.

I run plenty of Windows 11 Enterprise VM's on my M2 Air. Parallels is fantastic.

Between iMac Pro and iMac 2019 core i9, which one should I buy? Thanks a lot.

@@buitho439 pro. Easy.

It’s true. They hadn’t used Motorola chips for long in their laptops… More about that in my next video, actually!

Trying to sell mine soon. Not powerful enough unfortunately

@@montaguebarnabasltd Which one do you have?

What exactly are you doing with virtualization if you don't mind me asking? I have a fully loaded M2 Air and regularly use Linux VM's, Windows 11 Enterprise and BSD. They run beautifully. I feel like the Windows 11 runs faster than it does on my desktop.

@@SintaxBSD. I run Kali Linux, and occasionally Windows when I need to use certain niche software. UTM on Apple Silicon does not cut it. Colleagues tried with Fusion and Parallel and were unimpressed.

You’re absolutely right. Dodgy writing from me there :(

Thank you for watching I believe so. At absolute BEST, 1 more year, but I think it’s unlikely…

I guess they won't drop Intel just yet. The last Macs with Intel were released in 2020, that would be a VERY short support period. 1-2 years to go.

I wouldn’t recommend it, but they’ll likely get your work done for a few years at least.

@@montaguebarnabasltd Thank you so much for your idea. Between iMac 2019 core i9 and iMac Pro, which one will last longer with new Mac OS?

@@buitho439 iMac 2019 is more likely to get the next MacOS version. I doubt either will though

@@montaguebarnabasltd many thanks.