Doom - E1M2: Nuclear Plant (Nightmare! 100% Secrets + Items) 

Open, back around the corner, pop back again

Now imagine that exit room on DOOM 2 second level that is full of shotgunners

It really is. Wanna snipe an enemy from far away? Use the chaingun. You hit a cacodemon with 2 ssg blasts point blank and he's not dead? Use the chaingun. You're fighting a group of 20 chaingunners and a you have is a shotgun and a chaingun? Use the chaingun.

Yup the chaingun is great when stun locking an enemy from across the map. Just tap instead of holding down the fire button. This also shows why episode 1 of doom is so freaking fun: not a lot of bullet sponges, ssg / bfg spam, and all quick, frantic action. I wish modern mappers would ease off on bullet sponge slaughter maps.

@@TheFallenXL Your bit about the cacodemon is 100% on point. The chaingun makes an extremely efficient finishing move, ESPECIALLY on maps or WADs where ammo is tight and that ammo efficiency is make-or-break. I switch weapons constantly, and frequently it's to the chaingun for a finishing move.

100%, comes in clutch on fast monsters too against things like pain elementals/cacodemons

Doom 1 had well balanced arsenal and then SSG came and made eveything seem like crap.

I only play Doom 2 map sets so the shotgun is the most frustrating weapon to me. It loses some usefulness as soon as the chaingun provided you've got the bullets for it. Add the other weapons and the shotgun becomes relegated to a few niche situations. Requiring 2 shots to kill an imp just frustrates me so much. If maybe it had a tighter spread or 8 maybe 9 pellets or a slightly faster firing rate, I think it would have much more utility. It really is a weapon I avoid at all cost outside of the pistol and unberserked fist. But then again, I've never even truly sat down to play Doom 1 so I'm highly biased. 😳 I used to dislike the chaingun but it's really grown on me, maybe I just need to learn to love the shotgun.

​@@doel9289Yeah sometimes the shotgun is completely useless, i honestly like using the chaingun since in map like the end of Doom 2 second level where the exit room is full of shotgunners i most likely use the chaingun since it can kills them very fast without the needing to wait for it to reload like the shotgun.

Agreed. Modern mappers should use more hit scan enemies instead of bullet sponges.

Not only that, but its ammo is so rare in vanilla for no reason

@@tammid8423 Only wad I've ever seen that feeds the poor stock chaingun properly is Jenesis.

Have you played back to Saturn?

200 ammo cell packs are juicy

You are now completely unstoppable.

Sometimes I forget the secret count in OG Doom is on par with Duke 3D.

somehow I keep forgetting where all of them are even though it's only the second level. kind weird.

That's ducino speaking.

A test for the blind, are you referring to?

yeeeeaaaaaaaaahhh!!!

Misremembering or confusing it with the BFG edition port which indeed had no fast monsters.

I'm pretty sure the fast monsters have always been a part of Nightmare since it was introduced. I've never heard anything about Nightmare changing since introduction and I couldn't find any mention of a change on the Doom Fandom website's pages about skill level or fast mode.

I might be wrong but I remember fast pinky's as a Doom1 bug, just like the door-freeze and clipping into a wall after reloading while standing on a edge.

All levels. Secret ones included.

E1M9 on Ultra Violence+ seems daunting to me already, and I've recently tried it. That pentagram with the teleporting monsters ended up already pushing me out into the starting room, even with Chaingun, simply because those Pinkies and Spectres close the distance *fast.* Ended up having to switch to the Shotgun, which I'd say handles Turbo Pinkies excellently, provided you have enough room to back up.